Nivard, Yes, It is another thing that makes it less likely that this is my ancestor BUT he could have been staying there with an unknown relative or friend. I don't dismiss this entirely as my grandfather, Frederick Clarke, Joseph's grandson and also a mariner spent quite a lot of time between voyages to North America at Niagara on the Lake. The fact that I don't know of a connection at Piper City does not mean that there wasn't; I only learnt of the family connection with Niagara quite recently. If I had found my grandfather at Niagara a few years ago I would have dismissed it as not being him. David -----Original Message----- From: mariners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mariners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 16 September 2011 16:36 To: mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Missing Seaman Hi David Did you notice on the death at sea registration you think may be your Joseph CLARKE there is a note "Last place of abode piper city" The only Piper City I can find is in Illinois, USA Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> Hello Nivard, >> >> My current aim is to try to pursue Joseph the carpenter to the limit >> of available information as it is all I have. >> >> I seem to remember seeing a number of references to ship's carpenters >> being general handymen which some untrained people may be able to put >> their hand to. Unfortunately I cant remember my sources at present >> other than Joseph's brother, Ebenezer, who was described as a ship's >> steward in the 1891 census and as a ship's carpenter in the 1901. >> >> I don't have census information showing Joseph from the time he went to sea. >> >> >> David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message