Ted Finch Thanks for your reply,have tried some of the sources you givebut as yetneed to deeper.Our parish records do not show where some of the names of those killedcame from which is surprising.I have details of the ship and photo and sinking. If I find Capt P.E.Williams association with Upton by Chester I will let you know Regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Finch" <mariners-l@efinch90.fsnet.co.uk> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com>; <robertcleeves1@btinternet.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] Fwd: SS Clan Mac Fadyen2 > Hi Robert and Nivard, > > Thanks for your swift reply, but this appears to be another P. Williams. > > British & Commonwealth Merchant Ship Losses by A. J. Tennent gives - > > Clan Macfadyen > 27.11.1942 torpedoed and sunk by U.508 in 08.57N 59.48W on voyage > Mauritius to the UK via Cape Town and Pernambuco and Trinidad with a cargo > of sugar, hemp and rum. The Master, Capt. Percy Edgar Williams, 82 crew > and 7 gunners were lost. 3 crew and 1 gunner were rescued from a raft by > the schooner Harvard and taken to Port of Spain, Trinidad. > > He is listed on the CWGC site at > http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2794114 but no > indication of his origin. > > There is a guide to tracing records of master mariners at > http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKMasters.html > > Hope this helps > regards > Ted > > > On 20/09/2011 11:09, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> As a small follow up , both Philip and Ethel are teachers in 1911, >> perhaps that is the common >> denominator regarding Chester ? >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >>> Hi Ted >>> >>> Not sure if the poster thought they were a Maritime Captain but suspect >>> he may be an Army man >>> >>> The only Captain P WILLIAMS I could find as a casualty is the following >>> man who also turns out to >>> be a P E >>> >>> >>> Name: WILLIAMS, PHILIP ERNEST >>> Initials: P E >>> Nationality: United Kingdom >>> Rank: Captain >>> Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers >>> Unit Text: 19th Bn. >>> Age: 28 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >