As a small follow up , both Philip and Ethel are teachers in 1911, perhaps that is the common denominator regarding Chester ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Ted > > Not sure if the poster thought they were a Maritime Captain but suspect he may be an Army man > > The only Captain P WILLIAMS I could find as a casualty is the following man who also turns out to > be a P E > > > Name: WILLIAMS, PHILIP ERNEST > Initials: P E > Nationality: United Kingdom > Rank: Captain > Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers > Unit Text: 19th Bn. > Age: 28

Hi Robert and Nivard, Thanks for your swift reply, but this appears to be another P. Williams. British & Commonwealth Merchant Ship Losses by A. J. Tennent gives - Clan Macfadyen 27.11.1942 torpedoed and sunk by U.508 in 08.57N 59.48W on voyage Mauritius to the UK via Cape Town and Pernambuco and Trinidad with a cargo of sugar, hemp and rum. The Master, Capt. Percy Edgar Williams, 82 crew and 7 gunners were lost. 3 crew and 1 gunner were rescued from a raft by the schooner Harvard and taken to Port of Spain, Trinidad. He is listed on the CWGC site at http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2794114 but no indication of his origin. There is a guide to tracing records of master mariners at http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKMasters.html Hope this helps regards Ted On 20/09/2011 11:09, Nivard Ovington wrote: > As a small follow up , both Philip and Ethel are teachers in 1911, perhaps that is the common > denominator regarding Chester ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Hi Ted >> >> Not sure if the poster thought they were a Maritime Captain but suspect he may be an Army man >> >> The only Captain P WILLIAMS I could find as a casualty is the following man who also turns out to >> be a P E >> >> >> Name: WILLIAMS, PHILIP ERNEST >> Initials: P E >> Nationality: United Kingdom >> Rank: Captain >> Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers >> Unit Text: 19th Bn. >> Age: 28 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Have found that Capt P.E. williams was a resident of Upton by ChesterSailed with Leyland Houston and Clan LinesBorn Bootle 19/2/1882 Rgds cleeves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Finch" <mariners-l@efinch90.fsnet.co.uk> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com>; <robertcleeves1@btinternet.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] Fwd: SS Clan Mac Fadyen2 > Hi Robert and Nivard, > > Thanks for your swift reply, but this appears to be another P. Williams. > > British & Commonwealth Merchant Ship Losses by A. J. Tennent gives - > > Clan Macfadyen > 27.11.1942 torpedoed and sunk by U.508 in 08.57N 59.48W on voyage > Mauritius to the UK via Cape Town and Pernambuco and Trinidad with a cargo > of sugar, hemp and rum. The Master, Capt. Percy Edgar Williams, 82 crew > and 7 gunners were lost. 3 crew and 1 gunner were rescued from a raft by > the schooner Harvard and taken to Port of Spain, Trinidad. > > He is listed on the CWGC site at > http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2794114 but no > indication of his origin. > > There is a guide to tracing records of master mariners at > http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKMasters.html > > Hope this helps > regards > Ted > > > On 20/09/2011 11:09, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> As a small follow up , both Philip and Ethel are teachers in 1911, >> perhaps that is the common >> denominator regarding Chester ? >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >>> Hi Ted >>> >>> Not sure if the poster thought they were a Maritime Captain but suspect >>> he may be an Army man >>> >>> The only Captain P WILLIAMS I could find as a casualty is the following >>> man who also turns out to >>> be a P E >>> >>> >>> Name: WILLIAMS, PHILIP ERNEST >>> Initials: P E >>> Nationality: United Kingdom >>> Rank: Captain >>> Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers >>> Unit Text: 19th Bn. >>> Age: 28 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >