Regarding, perhaps, a slightly niche area of shipping, recently came across an excellent web site pertaining to vessels attached the Royal Fleet Auxiliary Service (RFA) 1905 -> : whilst not the home page : see below for that : this page is a fine example of the material included on this web site, including vessels in service prior to being taken into the RFA service : http://www.historicalrfa.org/ships-starting-with-r http://www.historicalrfa.org And, whilst probably another niche area, also including RN vessels, but also including many of the more difficult small vessels to track down, from trawlers, drifters, etc. hired by the Admiralty, along with vessels in harbour service and colliers etc. providing fleet services etc: http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBritishShips-Dittmar1.htm and along with these, one shouldn't forget the Navy Lists for pre WWI and WWII and post the end of these wars, which include some vessels not even included in the Naval History Net, which are available from : https://archive.org/search.php?query=Navy%20List The Navy Lists didn't include vessels in the Navy List once the Admiralty realised the value of these books to the enemy during war time ! Paul

Thank-you. I guess you're both talking about this photo? http://collections.museumoflondon.org.uk/Online/object.aspx?objectID=object-877788&start=1552&rows=1 I had many members of my family in the merchant navy, from the 19th century through the second world war. I was going to ask if anyone could give an idea of what life would have been like for them, but I guess the name starvation buoys gives a clue.   On Thursday, 2 April 2015, 22:01, Graham Read via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: Thanks for that.  I got over a dozen responses  but down the list is the Museum of London entry, and there is a very nice photo.  Thanks Andy, On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Andy Adams via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Been looking for a suitable illustration of a tier. Will keep trying. In > the meantime a very good illustration can be gained by going to Google > and typing in Starvation Buoys at Greenwich. This shows dozens of > unemployed sailing barges on tiers in the 1930s. Being smaller vessels > they are only moored fwd whereas large vessels would have fore and aft > moorings. Nonetheless it illustrates very well the danger of falling > down on the tier in a small vessel and the very high risk of death due > to the current driving them on. > > Rgds > -- > /Andy Adams/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can sks help me please. Hugh Brown was kind enough to tell me about the S.S.Clallam. she was an American Passenger steamer Built at Tacoma. WA at the Heath Yard. Built for the Puget Sound Navigation Co. On January 8th 1904 in a storm foundered between Smith and San Juan Islands near Holland Point, Straits of Juan de Fuca. Capt's name was Roberts. Is there any records for Puget Sound Navigation Co. or the Clallam. My mothers uncle William Cherrett was one that lost his life Buried Ross Bay Cemetary. Victoria. B.C.(I want to make sure he is our William Cherrett)born Monmouth Wales. Where did he start his career as a sailor. Brenda Melbourne

Sorry - forgot to put source. Lloyd's Register 1850 This is a useful site: http://www.lr.org/en/research-and-innovation/historical-information/lloyds-register-of-ships-online/ David On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Graham Read <grahamread43@gmail.com> wrote: > David, it was nice of you to provide the data to Jo but the rest of us, > and possibly Jo, would be equally interested in how you accessed the data > i.e. where did you get it from ? > > Graham > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:07 AM, David Asprey via <mariners@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> This FANNY was a 367t ship-rigged vessel, built in Guernsey in 1840 >> Owner: Sleddon & Co, Liverpool >> >> >> David >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Jo Wynne via <mariners@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > I have references about Captain William Hindmarsh sailing the ship >> > Fanny in 1850 ': >> > >> > Liverppool Mercury, Fri. 13th Dec. 1850, Wed. Dec. 11th .....Fanny, >> > Hindmarsh hence at San Francisco >> > >> > Liverpool Mercury Fri. 27th Dec. 1850 ' Melancholy Tidings From >> > California ' A report sent back by Capt. Hindmarsh to his wife about >> > the fate of two local Belford young men. >> > >> > Newcastle Journal, Sat, 18th Jan. 1851 , ' The Late Messrs William and >> > James Dinning ' this contains a more detailed account from Capt. >> > Hindmarsh of what had happened to the two young men. >> > >> > This is fairly certainly Capt. Hindmarsh's last sailing as in future >> > references he is postmaster at Belford. >> > >> > Would someone please direct me as to how to find detail of this ship >> > >> > Thank you >> > Jo >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

David, it was nice of you to provide the data to Jo but the rest of us, and possibly Jo, would be equally interested in how you accessed the data i.e. where did you get it from ? Graham On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:07 AM, David Asprey via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This FANNY was a 367t ship-rigged vessel, built in Guernsey in 1840 > Owner: Sleddon & Co, Liverpool > > > David > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Jo Wynne via <mariners@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > I have references about Captain William Hindmarsh sailing the ship > > Fanny in 1850 ': > > > > Liverppool Mercury, Fri. 13th Dec. 1850, Wed. Dec. 11th .....Fanny, > > Hindmarsh hence at San Francisco > > > > Liverpool Mercury Fri. 27th Dec. 1850 ' Melancholy Tidings From > > California ' A report sent back by Capt. Hindmarsh to his wife about > > the fate of two local Belford young men. > > > > Newcastle Journal, Sat, 18th Jan. 1851 , ' The Late Messrs William and > > James Dinning ' this contains a more detailed account from Capt. > > Hindmarsh of what had happened to the two young men. > > > > This is fairly certainly Capt. Hindmarsh's last sailing as in future > > references he is postmaster at Belford. > > > > Would someone please direct me as to how to find detail of this ship > > > > Thank you > > Jo > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This FANNY was a 367t ship-rigged vessel, built in Guernsey in 1840 Owner: Sleddon & Co, Liverpool David On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Jo Wynne via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have references about Captain William Hindmarsh sailing the ship > Fanny in 1850 ': > > Liverppool Mercury, Fri. 13th Dec. 1850, Wed. Dec. 11th .....Fanny, > Hindmarsh hence at San Francisco > > Liverpool Mercury Fri. 27th Dec. 1850 ' Melancholy Tidings From > California ' A report sent back by Capt. Hindmarsh to his wife about > the fate of two local Belford young men. > > Newcastle Journal, Sat, 18th Jan. 1851 , ' The Late Messrs William and > James Dinning ' this contains a more detailed account from Capt. > Hindmarsh of what had happened to the two young men. > > This is fairly certainly Capt. Hindmarsh's last sailing as in future > references he is postmaster at Belford. > > Would someone please direct me as to how to find detail of this ship > > Thank you > Jo > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jo- Br ship Fanny (Hindmarsh) arrived in San Francisco 7 Oct 1850, 210 days from Liverpool, via Rio de Janeiro, Ste May and Valparaiso, 30th July, 6 passengers (Sacramento Transcript, 10 Oct 1850) also in Daily Alta California, 8 Oct 1850 In further details to the voyage, the ship "FANNY" cleared San Francisco on 26 Dec 1850 for Valparaiso, according to the Sacramento Transcript, 30 Dec 1850. Hope that helps, Rhonda On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:55 AM, Jo Wynne via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have references about Captain William Hindmarsh sailing the ship > Fanny in 1850 ': > > Liverppool Mercury, Fri. 13th Dec. 1850, Wed. Dec. 11th .....Fanny, > Hindmarsh hence at San Francisco > > Liverpool Mercury Fri. 27th Dec. 1850 ' Melancholy Tidings From > California ' A report sent back by Capt. Hindmarsh to his wife about > the fate of two local Belford young men. > > Newcastle Journal, Sat, 18th Jan. 1851 , ' The Late Messrs William and > James Dinning ' this contains a more detailed account from Capt. > Hindmarsh of what had happened to the two young men. > > This is fairly certainly Capt. Hindmarsh's last sailing as in future > references he is postmaster at Belford. > > Would someone please direct me as to how to find detail of this ship > > Thank you > Jo > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Hello Mick, Thanks for ON. Don't think I ever knew that about the databases, do now! Many thanks Rod On 4 April 2015 at 13:17, Mick O Rourke <mickorourke@irishshipwrecks.com> wrote: > Hi Rod > > Miramar does not cover wooden sail vessels, you will find it on the Clip > Web Site > http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum.php > > SARAH JANE 58143 Sunderland, 1868, Sail > > > Mick O'Rourke > > Mariners List >

Hi Rod Miramar does not cover wooden sail vessels, you will find it on the Clip Web Site http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum.php SARAH JANE 58143 Sunderland, 1868, Sail Mick O'Rourke Mariners List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Clayburn via" <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "Mariners List" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:03 PM Subject: [MAR] Sarah Jane of Sunderland (Correction) > Mariners, > > Apologies, incorrect name in last posting! > > I have found the Sarah Jane, 365 Tons, built Sunderland 1868, Master > Humble, in Lloyds 1871/2. > Please can anyone advise the ON for this vessel and any more info. Not in > Mimimar. > > Thanks > > Rod > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mariners, Apologies, incorrect name in last posting! I have found the Sarah Jane, 365 Tons, built Sunderland 1868, Master Humble, in Lloyds 1871/2. Please can anyone advise the ON for this vessel and any more info. Not in Mimimar. Thanks Rod

Mariners, I have found the Mary Jane, 365 Tons, built Sunderland 1868, Master Humble, in Lloyds 1871/2. Please can anyone advise the ON for this vessel and any more info. Not in Mimimar. Thanks Rod <http://www.adecentlife.org>

Should have read starvation buoys at Woolwich. Apologies. -- /Andy Adams/

Can anyone tell me what became of the French pilot vessel GEORGES LEVERDIER Built 1930 by Lobnitz & Co. Renfrew. I know it was taken over by the Royal Navy as an examination vessel between 1940 and 1944 but what became of it afterwards. Any information would be gratefully received. Thank you in anticipation. Joe McMillan, South Australia. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Joe I appreciate what it says at: http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/france/GEORGES_LEVERDIER_968.html but FWIW she was still included in the Navy List for July 1945 : https://archive.org/details/navylistjul1945v3grea but, with disposals, at a time when there would obviously be a lot of changes, I wouldn't be surprised if she should have been removed at an earlier date : see comments per Andy Adams circa early 2008: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MARINERS/2008-01/1200606888 many of these vessels "were released to take up their normal pilotage duties" from Nov 1944. That said, should the entry in the Navy List be correct, it occurs to me that some of the pilot boats may have been retained in the service until after the end of the War ? I imagine that it would have take some time before the R. Seine, where she I see she is supposed to have ended up after the end of the War, could have been declared safe ? Paul On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 17:37:19 +1030, Joe McMillan via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Can anyone tell me what became of the French pilot vessel GEORGES LEVERDIER >Built 1930 by Lobnitz & Co. Renfrew. >I know it was taken over by the Royal Navy as an examination vessel between 1940 and 1944 but what became of it afterwards. >Any information would be gratefully received. >Thank you in anticipation. >Joe McMillan, >South Australia. > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >http://www.avast.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Thanks for that. I got over a dozen responses but down the list is the Museum of London entry, and there is a very nice photo. Thanks Andy, On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Andy Adams via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Been looking for a suitable illustration of a tier. Will keep trying. In > the meantime a very good illustration can be gained by going to Google > and typing in Starvation Buoys at Greenwich. This shows dozens of > unemployed sailing barges on tiers in the 1930s. Being smaller vessels > they are only moored fwd whereas large vessels would have fore and aft > moorings. Nonetheless it illustrates very well the danger of falling > down on the tier in a small vessel and the very high risk of death due > to the current driving them on. > > Rgds > -- > /Andy Adams/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Been looking for a suitable illustration of a tier. Will keep trying. In the meantime a very good illustration can be gained by going to Google and typing in Starvation Buoys at Greenwich. This shows dozens of unemployed sailing barges on tiers in the 1930s. Being smaller vessels they are only moored fwd whereas large vessels would have fore and aft moorings. Nonetheless it illustrates very well the danger of falling down on the tier in a small vessel and the very high risk of death. -- /Andy Adams/

Been looking for a suitable illustration of a tier. Will keep trying. In the meantime a very good illustration can be gained by going to Google and typing in Starvation Buoys at Greenwich. This shows dozens of unemployed sailing barges on tiers in the 1930s. Being smaller vessels they are only moored fwd whereas large vessels would have fore and aft moorings. Nonetheless it illustrates very well the danger of falling down on the tier in a small vessel and the very high risk of death due to the current driving them on. Rgds -- /Andy Adams/

 Shirl, The Bassorah brought my people to OZ. Nice to see some familiar vessels bubble up in the list. Paul. On Mar 31, 2015, at 06:14 PM, mariners-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Bussorah Merchant (David Asprey) 2. Re: Bussorah Merchant (Shirley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:46:50 +0100 From: David Asprey <davidjasprey@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MAR] Bussorah Merchant To: Shirley <shirl@alconline.net.au>, mariners@rootsweb.com Message-ID:        <CAB=AiRWgn_a3Vei2MFu+bLzBrA0a4M4GVYv3+0YtnnLZVcoZ=A@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 BUSSORAH MERCHANT continued in LR until 1865, then removed She was registered in London, with ON 23157. In 1863 she was sold to Hadjee Joosup Siabdina, registered at Bombay (and given in error ON 30587, which was cancelled in 1865). Broken up 1867 David On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Shirley via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: Greetings, Anyone able to discover for me the final fate of this vessel, please? I know she was built in Calcutta in 1818 & shows up in LR's in 1829 & was still carrying migrants to OZ in 1853. TIA Shirl OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:36:13 +1100 From: "Shirley" <shirl@alconline.net.au> Subject: Re: [MAR] Bussorah Merchant To: "'David Asprey'" <davidjasprey@gmail.com>, <mariners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:  <20150330103609.ZPMX3884.nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw08p> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii" David, Many thanks for this info. Much appreciated. Shirl Gunnedah, NSW, OZ _____ From: David Asprey [mailto:davidjasprey@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2015 7:47 PM To: Shirley; mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Bussorah Merchant BUSSORAH MERCHANT continued in LR until 1865, then removed She was registered in London, with ON 23157. In 1863 she was sold to Hadjee Joosup Siabdina, registered at Bombay (and given in error ON 30587, which was cancelled in 1865). Broken up 1867 David On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Shirley via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: Greetings, Anyone able to discover for me the final fate of this vessel, please? I know she was built in Calcutta in 1818 & shows up in LR's in 1829 & was still carrying migrants to OZ in 1853. TIA Shirl OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the MARINERS list administrator, send an email to MARINERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the MARINERS mailing list, send an email to MARINERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of MARINERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 61 ****************************************

David, Many thanks for this info. Much appreciated. Shirl Gunnedah, NSW, OZ _____ From: David Asprey [mailto:davidjasprey@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 March 2015 7:47 PM To: Shirley; mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Bussorah Merchant BUSSORAH MERCHANT continued in LR until 1865, then removed She was registered in London, with ON 23157. In 1863 she was sold to Hadjee Joosup Siabdina, registered at Bombay (and given in error ON 30587, which was cancelled in 1865). Broken up 1867 David On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Shirley via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: Greetings, Anyone able to discover for me the final fate of this vessel, please? I know she was built in Calcutta in 1818 & shows up in LR's in 1829 & was still carrying migrants to OZ in 1853. TIA Shirl OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message