Trying to learn more about the latter years of Captain John L Shackford. In 1847 he was master of the Brig Carryl which travelled from New York to the West Indies. By the 1860s he had moved from Maine to New York where he was listed in directories as a shipmaster. In Feb 1871 his wife Elizabeth S Clark Shackford filed for divorce stating that he had moved to St Thomas about three years earlier and had told acquaintances that he had married there and had at least one daughter. In Dec 1871 John L Shackford died in St Thomas (seems to be listed as Shuckford in that death record.) Looking for guidance on how to find out more about his shipping career and any thoughts on how to find the name of his wife in St Thomas and/or the names of their children. Specifically trying to learn if a John Lincoln Shackford (1872-1917) was his son who was possibly born after he died. Thanks for any help you may offer. Joanne Shackford Parkes

Greetings to the group.  The SS John H. Quick was a Liberty ship, and I have been contacted by a family that wishes to obtain a picture of the ship.....or pictures of the ship in any action to fulfill a genealogy family history.  If anyone happens to have photo's and wishes to share I really would appreciate it. A "Thank-You" in advance. Bud & R.J.....We Wish You Well My "Web Sites of Interest""My Blog"Naval & Merchant Ship Articles of Interest "Ship Histories" Bud's Naval & Merchant Ship Histories   

http://pages14-18.mesdiscussions.net/pages1418/Forum-Pages-d-Histoire-aviati on-marine/marine-1914-1918/jupiter-patrouilleur-auxiliaire-sujet_4006_1.htm Scroll down to JUPITER (II) It is in French but a Google translate will give her career and fate. Regards Auke Palmhof. -----Original Message----- From: mariners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mariners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joe McMillan via Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2015 5:32 p.m. To: mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: [MAR] Steam Trawler JUPITER of 1907 Hi all, Can anyone supply the details of the steam trawler JUPITER built 1907 by Scott & Sons at Bowling on the Clyde. Built for the French owner Louis Dero Any further details and ultimate fate would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Joe McMillan, South Australia. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Can anyone supply the details of the steam trawler JUPITER built 1907 by Scott & Sons at Bowling on the Clyde. Built for the French owner Louis Dero Any further details and ultimate fate would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Joe McMillan, South Australia. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The Henry is Frederick's grandfather, but the Thomas - you're right - is not connected. And yes, the Frederick in the court case is 'mine'. Thanks for your input. Toni > On 10 Sep 2015, at 9:27 pm, elizgh via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, in the Derby Mercury of 30th October > 1783 , under the heading Bankrupts, Thomas Skey of Bristol, Cyder Merchant. > To appear Nov 24, 25, and Dec 9th at the White Lion, in Broad St, > Attornies Mr Thomas Morgan , in Bristol, and Mr Walter Hill , 15 Grays Inn , > London. In the Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette , Thursday 13 July 1786 > , At Upton on Severn , in his 27th year, Mr Thomas Skey, cyder merchant. > A little earlier and a different Skey , Oxford Jounal February 1755, On > Saturday last the Rev Mr Henry Skey of Tortworth, in Gloucestershire, was > inducted to the Rectory of Cranford, in Mddx, by the Rt Hon Frederick > Augustus , Earl of Berkeley . But these Skeys seem to be another branch of > the family . Your Frederick Augustus Skey , is mentioned in the Bells > London Life and Sporting Chronicle of 17th Nov 1839 , the report is titled > Alleged starvation of convicts . At the Thames Police Office John Byron , > master of a ship called the John Renwick , belonging to Messrs Godwin and > Lee , chartered in the year 1838 to transport convicts to NSW was supplied > with stores from HMs Victualling yard at Deptford. The charge against him > was that he deducted a certain portion of the rations allowed him by > Government for each convict and appropriated such deductions to his own use > . Frederick Augustus Skey , second mate of the John Renwick was then sworn > . To summarise the trick was to give out "one bucket of peas containing > between 2 and 3 gallons , whereas the quantity afforded by Govt was from 9 - > 10 gallons ," . > There are also a couple of mentions of the Skeys of Wickwar > in Glos in the National Archives regarding a school , ditto of Thornbury , > Glos . > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mme_N_Carmichael via > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:42 AM > To: Toni Glasson ; mariners@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MAR] Help please > > Hello Toni, > Is this your Henry? If so, there are two more vessel names for you.Source: > The London GazettePublication date: 17 April 1849 > Issue: 20968Page: 1277 > "WHEREAS Henry Skey, formerly of Wickwor, in > > the county of Gloucester, left England on the 3dday of October, in the year > 1826, as second mate on boardthe East India merchant ship, The London, of > London,commanded by Captain Fotheringham, and subsequentlyjoined a country > trading vessel, called the Illustra Almada,at Bombay, in the East Indies, > and has not been heard ofsince the year 1831, and if alive is supposed to be > in theEast Indies. If any person will give information respectingthe said > Henry Skey, if alive or if dead, when and wherebe died, or any information > whatever respecting him toMr. John Harris, of No. 22, Argyll-street, > Regent-street,in the county of Middlesex, Solicitor, he will be rewarded. > Regards,Adi > > > > > From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> > To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM > Subject: [MAR] Help please > > Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of > Gloucestershire, UK. They had 10 sons, seven of whom were definitely > mariners...... > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for these links Piers. I shall set aside a wet weekend soon to go through everything and see what I can come up with. I think that there may be more info at WSRO which is reasonably easy to get to (when I visit my mum) and we might also have to go to Portsmouth and/or Southampton if I am reading some of the records correctly. I'm sure we'll get there - slowly! thanks again, Anne Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 17:33:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Testers from Shoreham From: pierssc@gmail.com To: alc_goytre@hotmail.com; mariners@rootsweb.com Knew I'd seen them online somewhere! Crew Agreements are the thing. Go to this page and have a look at examples of Foreign and Home Trade Crew Agreements: https://www.mun.ca/mha/mlc/toolkit/agreements/ If you can track down the crew agreements for the relevant people, they should with luck state the birthplaces and ages which should enable you to link the various people of the right name, to people born in the relevant places at that time via BMD records. Having found the Official Numbers of the vessels you want, you can search at the Newfoundland website to see what agreements they have. https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/searchcombinedcrews.php Note that MHA try to tell you if other institutions have agreements, but some agreements in other places may not have been picked up by MHA, also note that MHA file by the year the voyage ended, whereas other institutions tend to file by the year it started! CheersPiers On 5 September 2015 at 15:16, Anne Capewell <alc_goytre@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Piers and Adi, Many thanks for your replies. You have kindly given me several avenues to explore. Having looked at these briefly I can see that it will be a gradual process of finding one of the ships, finding where the records are held, viewing (or ordering) the information which will hopefully give me another ship to repeat the process! I appreciate that this list is not for 'normal' genealogy but I was wondering (hoping!) if any mariner's records would have 'extra' info - such as next of kin, address, place of birth etc - similar to military service personnel records. all the best,Anne

Hi All, I am seeking information on the 3 Masted sailing ship FIDES built 1869 by A.Stephen & Sons Glasgow. I cannot find mention of this ship in the Miramar ship index or the list of ships built by this shipyard. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Joe McMillan, South Australia. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Knew I'd seen them online somewhere! Crew Agreements are the thing. Go to this page and have a look at examples of Foreign and Home Trade Crew Agreements: https://www.mun.ca/mha/mlc/toolkit/agreements/ If you can track down the crew agreements for the relevant people, they should with luck state the birthplaces and ages which should enable you to link the various people of the right name, to people born in the relevant places at that time via BMD records. Having found the Official Numbers of the vessels you want, you can search at the Newfoundland website to see what agreements they have. https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/searchcombinedcrews.php Note that MHA try to tell you if other institutions have agreements, but some agreements in other places may not have been picked up by MHA, also note that MHA file by the year the voyage ended, whereas other institutions tend to file by the year it started! Cheers Piers On 5 September 2015 at 15:16, Anne Capewell <alc_goytre@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Piers and Adi, > > Many thanks for your replies. > > You have kindly given me several avenues to explore. Having looked at > these briefly I can see that it will be a gradual process of finding one of > the ships, finding where the records are held, viewing (or ordering) the > information which will hopefully give me another ship to repeat the process! > > I appreciate that this list is not for 'normal' genealogy but I was > wondering (hoping!) if any mariner's records would have 'extra' info - such > as next of kin, address, place of birth etc - similar to military service > personnel records. > > all the best, > Anne >

One more thing, Toni, Given that the father, the surgeon, would have had some education in Latin and further given that you already have "Septimus" and Octavius" among the forenames of the sons, I would add "Tertius" "Quartus" "Quintus" and "Sextus" to your search parameters. "The ordinal numbers in Latin are: primus, secundus, tertius, quartus, quintus, sextus, septimus (etc,). Romans often gave an individualised first name only to their eldest son: the rest were often just numbered and known by these ordinal numbers. " Regards,Adi   From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: [MAR] Help please Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK.  They had 10 sons, seven of whom were  definitely mariners.

Hi Joe, The answer lies in the fact the your Fides changed her name several times - she was built at Stephen's shipyard for French owners as the Henry Sempe, and launched on Saturday 10 July 1869.  Her master was to be Capt. Guerin, and she was then trading out of Bordeaux.  She was renamed the Elsa by 1886, and then the Fides by 1894. Best regards, PK On Thursday, 10 September 2015, 10:34, Joe McMillan via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi All,         I am seeking information on the 3 Masted sailing ship FIDES built 1869 by A.Stephen & Sons Glasgow. I cannot find mention of this ship in the Miramar ship index or the list of ships built by this shipyard. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Joe McMillan, South Australia. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Adi, thank you very much for your help! Kind regards, Albie From: Mme_N_Carmichael [mailto:mme_n_carmichael@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 6:42 PM To: Albie; mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Capt Sadler Hello Albie, Mentions and dates of that voyage by FANNY here: http://www.geni.com/projects/1820-British-Settlers-in-South-Africa/162 and here: http://www.geni.com/projects/1820-Settlers-Butler-s-Party/9933 FANNY brought Irish emigrants from the port of Cork, Ireland. Here's a quote from another website: "The English settled in South Africa mostly after 1820 when a group of 3,675 British subjects settled in eastern Cape Province in that year. These settlers are well documented. A memorial museum that has genealogies of their descendants is located at: Albany Museum Somerset Street Grahamstown 6140 South Africa Web site: <http://www.ru.ac.za/affiliates/am/> http://www.ru.ac.za/affiliates/am/ " Since FANNY was chartered to carry "assisted" emigrants, there may well be references to FANNY and Sadler at TNA, possibly? in Admiralty papers? Re Mate/Only Mate, there is a good description on the website of The Mariners List here: http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/GenBosunMastersExam.html Regards, Adi _____ From: Albie <albie@astonbay.co.za> To: 'Mme_N_Carmichael' <mme_n_carmichael@yahoo.ca>; mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 5:45 AM Subject: RE: [MAR] Capt Sadler Thank you very much Adi for your willingness to help again! The information I have is from the 1820 settlers that came to South Africa and settled near Grahamstown South Africa and was well documented This Capt. Sadler and the “Fanny” was one of the ships bringing in a settler group and his son Thomas Farrar Sadler (1799-180) came out with him and stayed. >From my records it seems that the first name “William” is most likely and “Thomas” as a second. I think that #146 as you mentioned below is most probably correct. Adi, can one get more information about this William Sadler somewhere from mariner’s resources? Can you perhaps tell me the difference between the rank as “Mate” and “Only Mate” the latter being a certificate of one of our family members? Regards, Albie From: Mme_N_Carmichael [mailto:mme_n_carmichael@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:12 AM To: Albie; mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Capt Sadler Hello Albie, Do you have a first name for Captain Sadler? Or any other information or context? The newspapers show a FANNY with Sadler as master in 1816 and 1817 trading Pernambuco <-> London. Lloyd's 1820 Register of Shipping here: http://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-register.html shows FANNY, a London transport, with master W. Sadler as #146 under the "F", but the information in those registers is often up to a year out of date. However the same information does also appear in the 1821 edition. But ... I don't see any 1820 references to FANNY under Sadler in the 1820 Lloyd's List newspaper here: http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt/search?q1=Sadler;id=hvd.32044105226344;view=1up;seq=5;start=11;sz=10;page=search;orient=0 Regards, Adi _____ From: Albie via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 5:15 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] Capt Sadler Hi, Could someone please guide me to research Capt Sadler and the ship "Fanny" in 1820 to East London, South Africa? Regards, Albie Gibson, South Africa

Hi, in the Derby Mercury of 30th October 1783 , under the heading Bankrupts, Thomas Skey of Bristol, Cyder Merchant. To appear Nov 24, 25, and Dec 9th at the White Lion, in Broad St, Attornies Mr Thomas Morgan , in Bristol, and Mr Walter Hill , 15 Grays Inn , London. In the Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette , Thursday 13 July 1786 , At Upton on Severn , in his 27th year, Mr Thomas Skey, cyder merchant. A little earlier and a different Skey , Oxford Jounal February 1755, On Saturday last the Rev Mr Henry Skey of Tortworth, in Gloucestershire, was inducted to the Rectory of Cranford, in Mddx, by the Rt Hon Frederick Augustus , Earl of Berkeley . But these Skeys seem to be another branch of the family . Your Frederick Augustus Skey , is mentioned in the Bells London Life and Sporting Chronicle of 17th Nov 1839 , the report is titled Alleged starvation of convicts . At the Thames Police Office John Byron , master of a ship called the John Renwick , belonging to Messrs Godwin and Lee , chartered in the year 1838 to transport convicts to NSW was supplied with stores from HMs Victualling yard at Deptford. The charge against him was that he deducted a certain portion of the rations allowed him by Government for each convict and appropriated such deductions to his own use . Frederick Augustus Skey , second mate of the John Renwick was then sworn . To summarise the trick was to give out "one bucket of peas containing between 2 and 3 gallons , whereas the quantity afforded by Govt was from 9 - 10 gallons ," . There are also a couple of mentions of the Skeys of Wickwar in Glos in the National Archives regarding a school , ditto of Thornbury , Glos . -----Original Message----- From: Mme_N_Carmichael via Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:42 AM To: Toni Glasson ; mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] Help please Hello Toni, Is this your Henry? If so, there are two more vessel names for you.Source: The London GazettePublication date: 17 April 1849 Issue: 20968Page: 1277 "WHEREAS Henry Skey, formerly of Wickwor, in the county of Gloucester, left England on the 3dday of October, in the year 1826, as second mate on boardthe East India merchant ship, The London, of London,commanded by Captain Fotheringham, and subsequentlyjoined a country trading vessel, called the Illustra Almada,at Bombay, in the East Indies, and has not been heard ofsince the year 1831, and if alive is supposed to be in theEast Indies. If any person will give information respectingthe said Henry Skey, if alive or if dead, when and wherebe died, or any information whatever respecting him toMr. John Harris, of No. 22, Argyll-street, Regent-street,in the county of Middlesex, Solicitor, he will be rewarded. Regards,Adi From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: [MAR] Help please Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK. They had 10 sons, seven of whom were definitely mariners...... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Many thanks Piers. Food for thought! Regards Ruth From: Piers Smith-Cresswell [mailto:pierssc@gmail.com] Sent: 10 September 2015 12:06 To: Ruth; mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] DODGSON Thomas Hi The Merchantile Navy List for 1858 has two Thomas Dodgsons with certificates - one OC 3452 (ie a master) who passed Liverpool 1855), and the other 16440, also passed at Liverpool 1855, but as an Only Mate. See page 128 (of the scan) at <http://tinyurl.com/ntoaab6> http://tinyurl.com/ntoaab6 . They can be found in the apprenticeship records too, 3452 Thomas Dodgson was born in 1827 and his register ticket was 462392. 16440 Thomas was born in 1832, no register ticket. Both seem to have been born in Workington! Which is entirely the wrong side of the country for your family so presumably they are not related to your lot at all! The index to Lloyds Captains register only has 3452 Thomas of course. I think the indication is that Thomas (c1795) may have died or retired from the sea by the time that he would have had to obtain a certificate of competency ie before 1854 (when he would have been nearly 60, so not entirely surprising). It may be that unless earlier editions of the Mercantile Navy List than are available via the www.maritimearchives.co.uk website list uncertificated masters, then Lloyds List (the newspaper) or local newspapers or shipping directories may be the only way of picking him up. Such of the NE England directories as I have downloaded from Google books seem to make no mention of masters' names though. I'm afraid I don't think this helps much! Cheers Piers On 10 September 2015 at 09:42, Ruth via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: I hope someone has some information on Thomas DODGSON. He was born c.1795, married Elizabeth ROBINSON in Tweedmouth 1817, had six children all in the Berwick/Tweedmouth area between 1817 and 1827, and one in South Shields in 1831. He was a Master Mariner according to marriage certificates of two of his children, although their baptism entries have him as a Mariner. He should not be confused with his son Thomas, Ticket No 379194. This man has eluded me for thirty years, so any sightings would be most welcome! Thanks in advance Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi The Merchantile Navy List for 1858 has two Thomas Dodgsons with certificates - one OC 3452 (ie a master) who passed Liverpool 1855), and the other 16440, also passed at Liverpool 1855, but as an Only Mate. See page 128 (of the scan) at *http://tinyurl.com/ntoaab6* <http://tinyurl.com/ntoaab6> . They can be found in the apprenticeship records too, 3452 Thomas Dodgson was born in 1827 and his register ticket was 462392. 16440 Thomas was born in 1832, no register ticket. Both seem to have been born in Workington! Which is entirely the wrong side of the country for your family so presumably they are not related to your lot at all! The index to Lloyds Captains register only has 3452 Thomas of course. I think the indication is that Thomas (c1795) may have died or retired from the sea by the time that he would have had to obtain a certificate of competency ie before 1854 (when he would have been nearly 60, so not entirely surprising). It may be that unless earlier editions of the Mercantile Navy List than are available via the www.maritimearchives.co.uk website list uncertificated masters, then Lloyds List (the newspaper) or local newspapers or shipping directories may be the only way of picking him up. Such of the NE England directories as I have downloaded from Google books seem to make no mention of masters' names though. I'm afraid I don't think this helps much! Cheers Piers On 10 September 2015 at 09:42, Ruth via <mariners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I hope someone has some information on Thomas DODGSON. He was born c.1795, > married Elizabeth ROBINSON in Tweedmouth 1817, had six children all in the > Berwick/Tweedmouth area between 1817 and 1827, and one in South Shields in > 1831. > > He was a Master Mariner according to marriage certificates of two of his > children, although their baptism entries have him as a Mariner. > > > > He should not be confused with his son Thomas, Ticket No 379194. > > > > This man has eluded me for thirty years, so any sightings would be most > welcome! > > > > Thanks in advance > > Ruth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I hope someone has some information on Thomas DODGSON. He was born c.1795, married Elizabeth ROBINSON in Tweedmouth 1817, had six children all in the Berwick/Tweedmouth area between 1817 and 1827, and one in South Shields in 1831. He was a Master Mariner according to marriage certificates of two of his children, although their baptism entries have him as a Mariner. He should not be confused with his son Thomas, Ticket No 379194. This man has eluded me for thirty years, so any sightings would be most welcome! Thanks in advance Ruth

Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK. They had 10 sons, seven of whom were definitely mariners. Two, at least, died at sea - Joseph in 1834 and Samuel in 1848. William (deliberately) never returned from a voyage to Tahiti, Octavius was apprenticed as a mariner at the age of 16, but seems to have run away to the USA, Frederick died in Madras (having apparently married bigamously) and Charles was transported as a convict to Tasmania. My questions are these:Was Henry, 1806-1850, also a mariner? And when did Thomas (a master mariner born 1803) die? Was it at sea?I know that the following ships were associated with Skey master mariners and seamen. I'd be very grateful for any further information or hints for further research. (I've looked at Lloyd's Lists)1834 The Harriet (Which Skey?)1835 The Albion arrives at Hastings from Sydney. Reg. 1835 London (Which Skey?)1849 John Campbell in trouble off Long Island (Which Skey?)Fortune (William)Sarah (Frederick)Montreal and Marianna (Samuel)Recovery, Favourite, Lady Louisa, Timothy (Charles. These seem to have been whalers.)Thanks!Toni

Hello Toni, Is this your Henry? If so, there are two more vessel names for you.Source: The London GazettePublication date: 17 April 1849                                 Issue: 20968Page: 1277 "WHEREAS Henry Skey, formerly of Wickwor, in the county of Gloucester, left England on the 3dday of October, in the year 1826, as second mate on boardthe East India merchant ship, The London, of London,commanded by Captain Fotheringham, and subsequentlyjoined a country trading vessel, called the Illustra Almada,at Bombay, in the East Indies, and has not been heard ofsince the year 1831, and if alive is supposed to be in theEast Indies. If any person will give information respectingthe said Henry Skey, if alive or if dead, when and wherebe died, or any information whatever respecting him toMr. John Harris, of No. 22, Argyll-street, Regent-street,in the county of Middlesex, Solicitor, he will be rewarded. Regards,Adi   From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: [MAR] Help please Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK.  They had 10 sons, seven of whom were  definitely mariners......

Hello again, Toni, >From "The Straits Times and Singapore Journal of Commerce", 24 June 1851:"The barque Sarah, Skey, from this port arrived at Madras May 13." There will probably be more hits there. You can search it online at:http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/default.aspx Regards,Adi   From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: [MAR] Help please Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK.  They had 10 sons, seven of whom were  definitely mariners........

Hello Toni, Have you been through the FIBIS database here?:http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/                                             . There are hits for you there incl. the 1852 death notice for Captain Frederick Augustus Septimus Skey, "late commander of the barque SARAH". there - that's another vessel name for you. Regards,Adi   From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: [MAR] Help please Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK.  They had 10 sons, seven of whom were  definitely mariners. Two, at least, died at sea - Joseph in 1834 and Samuel in 1848.  William (deliberately) never returned from a voyage to Tahiti, Octavius was apprenticed as a mariner at the age of 16, but seems to have run away to the USA, Frederick died in Madras (having apparently married bigamously) and Charles was transported as a convict to Tasmania. My questions are these:Was Henry, 1806-1850, also a mariner? And when did Thomas (a master mariner born 1803) die?  Was it at sea?I know that the following ships were associated with Skey master mariners and seamen. I'd be very grateful for any further information or hints for further research.  (I've looked at Lloyd's Lists)1834  The Harriet (Which Skey?)1835  The Albion arrives at Hastings from Sydney. Reg. 1835 London (Which Skey?)1849  John Campbell in trouble off Long Island (Which Skey?)Fortune (William)Sarah (Frederick)Montreal and Marianna (Samuel)Recovery, Favourite, Lady Louisa, Timothy (Charles.  These seem to have been whalers.)Thanks!Toni                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Toni, Was William married in 1827 to an Elizabeth May? If so, this Chancery case says that he quit England in 1836.https://books.google.ca/books?id=KlQ1AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA307&lpg=PA307&dq=%22Skey%22+mariner&source=bl&ots=H3k_ykpOdY&sig=oUaDVOZdeRhkF2HBY34Be5Bckr4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAGoVChMIwomR_pbrxwIVihaSCh2-zg6T#v=onepage&q=%22Skey%22%20mariner&f=false  Have you made one post on RootsChat as "tonimg" in this thread?:http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=659162.10 If that wasn't you, you'll enjoy reading that thread. If that IS your family, then you need to search the merchant navy records on Ancestry because if Frederick Augustus Skey was a 2nd Mate in August 1840, then he probably applied for a certificate when they were introduced in 1845 and definitely when they became compulsory in 1850 (that is, if he were still alive at those dates). Ancestry has the Masters and Mates database. Be sure to use the scroll arrows both forward and backward to see all the pages in the file. Ancestry also has other TNA merchant navy BT files and so does FindMyPast. There is at least one public tree on Ancestry with Frederick Augustus Skey in it. You say that you have looked at Lloyd's List. That's a weekly maritime newspaper. Have you also trawled through all the online volumes of Lloyd's Register of Shipping?  There is a column for master's name. Since Skey is a very short name, there will also be room in that column for a first initial.They are here:http://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-register.html Regards,Adi From: Toni Glasson via <mariners@rootsweb.com> To: "mariners@rootsweb.com" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: [MAR] Help please Hello allI am researching the family of Thomas and Fanny Skey of Gloucestershire, UK.  They had 10 sons, seven of whom were  definitely mariners. Two, at least, died at sea - Joseph in 1834 and Samuel in 1848.  William (deliberately) never returned from a voyage to Tahiti, Octavius was apprenticed as a mariner at the age of 16, but seems to have run away to the USA, Frederick died in Madras (having apparently married bigamously) and Charles was transported as a convict to Tasmania. My questions are these:Was Henry, 1806-1850, also a mariner? And when did Thomas (a master mariner born 1803) die?  Was it at sea?I know that the following ships were associated with Skey master mariners and seamen. I'd be very grateful for any further information or hints for further research.  (I've looked at Lloyd's Lists)1834  The Harriet (Which Skey?)1835  The Albion arrives at Hastings from Sydney. Reg. 1835 London (Which Skey?)1849  John Campbell in trouble off Long Island (Which Skey?)Fortune (William)Sarah (Frederick)Montreal and Marianna (Samuel)Recovery, Favourite, Lady Louisa, Timothy (Charles.  These seem to have been whalers.)Thanks!Toni                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message