Hello Gordon, The only newspaper piece I could find that positively refers to this ship seems to be that in the Caledonian Mercury for the 9 August 1817: DIED. On the 18th June last, at Kingston, Jamaica, where he had arrived a few days before, with his vessel, the Fame of Banff, Captain ALEXANDER RAFFAN. I suspect you already know of this. Further references to a vessel or vessels named Fame (a common ship name), sailing to or from Banff do occur, but nothing that is assuredly the same ship. Raffan's "Ship" was of 243 tons, and while the name of "Rafflin" still appears in Lloyd's Register (Red book) in 1818, another name "Dollond" has been inserted beneath, succeeded by "Parie" (later "Paris", owner "Pirie") in 1819 to 1821. On the other hand, the Green books show that Fame had been re-rigged as a Snow and sheathed in cooper by 1819, and the master is given there as "Pierie". One might be able to chase these up further, but perhaps it was onlyRaffan's voyages with Fame that you were interested in? The Fame under "Pirie" appears in Lloyd's Marine List of the 9 May 1820 as having run aground for a second time at Demerara on the 25 March (the first time having been in February), when it was then feared she would not be got off. The same List of the 11 August reported that she had been salvaged in June, after having being sold. Presumably her named thereafter changed. Regards, PK ________________________________ From: Gordon Troup <gatroup@telus.net> To: Mariners-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 16 July, 2011 8:19:42 Subject: [MAR] Fame of Banff 1813-1817 Hello Everyone Can anyone provide me with any details of voyages of the above vessel? The Fame of Banff was built in 1813 in Sunderland and was under the command of Alexander Raffan of Macduff. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Gordon Troup ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mariner enthusiasts I hope someone out there can head me in the right direction. I have absolutely no knowledge about sailing ships but I have 3 generations of Thomas Kemps 1,2, & 3 that were mariners out of Liverpool (1770's to 1870's) and all eventually achieved their Master Mariner Certificates. I am only able to confirm the names of the last Capt. Kemp #3's ships. The Creamore and the Lord John Russell (1850-1854) Barracuda #21,005 (1858-1863); Merrie Olde England (1863-1864). My problem is How can I find out what ships Captains #1 and #2 commanded and also how can I find out if any of these ships have any interesting stories (shipwrecks, mutinies etc.) connected with them? Also how can I find out when each of these three men acquired their Master mariner certificates and their numbers? Michelle Wilson Vermont USA

Thank you again David As I prefer a primary source for my information this is the confirmation I needed. While other websites and some books mention she was seen off Ballycotton around this time no one has given a reliable source for the information. I have been busy for a few weeks, so March 1867 is still not finished, I have uploaded details of 20 vessels for this month with about 6 more to go. www.irishshipwrecks.com These two may interest those with an interest in the Clyde. http://www.irishshipwrecks.com/shipwrecks.php?wreck_ref=492 http://www.irishshipwrecks.com/shipwrecks.php?wreck_ref=490 This was a difficult month to research and I would like to acknowledge all the help and material I have been given by Mariners List Members. Mick O Rourke www.irishshipwrecks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: David Asprey To: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Steam Ship Florida Lost Off Ballycotton

Thanks David " Howdon? Typo for "London" methinks. " I use text recognition software for some records which I have as images, I need to buck up a little on my proof reading .......... In a later post for the Yacht Nymph I uploaded a page from the B.O.T Wreck Returns, I only noticed later that the Berrington was also included on this page. http://www.mariners-list.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6 Mick O Rourke Mariners List ----- Original Message ----- From: David Asprey To: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] SS BENINGTON/BERRINGTON

on 18 Jun 2011 15:29:29 +0100 Mich wrote <Shipwreck Index of Ireland cite's The board of trade wreck <report which supposes she was lost off Ballycotton although <I suspect the Larn's confirmed their information from <Lloyds List, they don't say. I would like to get the <information from a primary source if possible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lloyd's List 1867: - 16/4 sailed Liverpool for Alexandria (Capt Parry) - [30/4] "a chair picked up amongst wreckage passed 22/4 off Ballycotton by CITY OF BOSTON (s) has been identified aas part of a shipment of furniture per FLORIDA" - [29/5] FLORIDA formally "posted missing" by Lloyd's David

Returning to an old thread, on 12 May 2011 Mick O Rourke wrote The Vessel lost late in late December 1904 enroute to Rotterdam was the Steam Ship Berrington, Official Number 53117. SS Benington continued in the Register up to 1915. To start SS.Berrington was built By Palmers at Newcastle in 1865. She was a 767 gross ton cargo vessel owned by John Fenwick and Son 57 Gracechurch Street (I presume London) the last registration detail I can find is 1899 when she was registered in Howdon. <SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdon? Typo for "London" methinks. Lloyd's List 5/1/1905 has report dated 4/1: "Owners received telegram from Rotterdam - fishermen landed brown painted lifebuoy marked 'Berrington, London' and name plank from neighbourhood of the Waterway." Ship formally posted "missing" 25/1/1905. David

Greetings to the List.... I have a link to a new article on the "Blog"..... [http://navalmerchantshiparticles.blogspot.com/] .....this particular one is just a tad out of the 'norm'.....it is about a U.S. Navy Crane.....YD-171....or better known as "HERMAN THE GERMAN". This particular crane, which was one of four, taken from Germany at the end of the war.....was one big dude!!!! It was one thing transporting it across the pond to the Pacific Coast....and it was another ball game entirely in trying to assemble it once they got "Herman" here. There is some excellent pics that is embedded in this short article...[only about 5 pages or so]..... Ok so there you have it.....later on I'll have some interesting pictures to put on the blog that many of you may be interested in...should be today or at least by Sat.... Depends on how much baking Mr. R.J. and I have to get done before the Sat. Church bake sale...[as well as how many 'cat sugar coated dough-balls' that have to be made..... Hey....y'all enjoy!!! -- Enjoy!! Bud & R.J We Wish You Well ARTICLES ON MY "BLOG" MERCHANT SHIP HISTORY SITE SITE OF LOST CREWS

Hello again, Paxie,   Your man might still have gone on the ARAB I mentioned, but not on the voyage I mentioned because that one arrived Capetown 18 February, 1895. ARAB arrived back in Southampton on 29 April, 1895 and left again 1 June, 1895 arriving again at Capetown on 23 June, 1895.   However, it sounds rather as if he were passenger, not crew and our focus is ships and crews. The Ships List at Rootsweb: http://www.theshipslist.com/ does passengers and emigration.   Regards, Adi --- On Sat, 7/9/11, Paxie Kelsey <paxie@telkomsa.net> wrote: Hello Rhonda and Ron Many thanks for your input ... for a moment I thought I had lost my document with what SW Smith said in his letter dated Aug 13th 1895. He says he came on the "Arab" some two months ago ...  so I would say that was about May or early June ..... He states something which I cannot quite read and maybe it's of note here ... "I notice in the gazette that you are advertising for one SW Smith of Egypt & "....... " maybe Luclia .... Anyway .. .perhaps you know more about which "Arab" I am looking for now. Kind regards Paxie

Hello Susan and List,   Two odd thoughts in postscript.   1) I don't recollect seeing whence the museum acquired the glass. If it were locally (Aberdeen) , rather than from Sunderland, that might support the idea that it had been rejected by the customer because of the error in casualty place name, but, for whatever reason, wasn't destroyed (too pretty?).   2) It may have been too expensive a momento to have redone correctly, so the error stands, to confuse and confound historians for decades to come. We've had a similar story here on The Mariners List just two months ago. A lady got basic information from a tombstone and wrote here seeking more information on the S.S. BENNINGTON. It was a tough go at first, but easy to find information after Mick correctly named the ship S.S. BERRINGTON. Possibly the stonecutter had trouble reading the handwriting on the order?   Regards, Adi   --- On Wed, 7/6/11, Susan Enns <bellenns@rogers.com> wrote: From: Susan Enns <bellenns@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [MAR] SOLVED! Re: The sinking of the 'Ranger' To: "Ron Mapplebeck" <ron.mapplebeck1@virgin.net> Cc: MARINERS@rootsweb.com, "John Stevenson" <johndee.ships@btinternet.com>, teesmaritime@yahoogroups.com, "Meredith Greiling" <MGreiling@aberdeencity.gov.uk> Received: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 8:12 AM I want to thank you all for your earnest attempts to clarify this  story. I too am very impressed how well the collective voice of the  Mariner's List managed to affect Maritime History and so quickly! My gratitude goes out to all who contributed to this mystery. Regards, Susan Enns On 6-Jul-11, at 7:55 AM, Ron Mapplebeck wrote: > This is how Susan started an enthralling thread less than a week ago! > > Thanks to input specifically from Peter Klein, Adi Carmichael, and  > John Stevenson, but also from sighting the actual documentation held  > by Susan herself, we have satisfied the Aberdeen Museum that the  > RANGER was, in fact, lost on the Goodwin Sands, not off Aberdeen. > > This means the inscription on the rummer glass is, for some strange  > reason, wrong. > > To me this demonstrates the collective resources utilised by our  > listers in many ways to clarify matters of maritime history often,  > as in this case, now many years in the past - with the ability to  > correct factual errors which arise from time to time. > > Well done MARINERS' LIST and all concerned. > > Ron Mapplebeck > ***** > On 30/06/2011 20:34, Susan Enns wrote: >> I'm looking for as much information as I can find regarding the >> schooner 'Ranger'. I have a letter describing the sinking of the ship >> dated Sept.1st, 1833 but no identification as to the author of the >> letter. It came to me in a bundle of old letters written by relatives >> from Sunderland, UK. >> >> I believe this schooner is the vessel described at http://www.aberdeenships.com/single.asp?index=100687 >>   . At this site, it suggests the owner was John CHRISTIE of >> Sunderland who I believe to be a relative. >> Would there be a Scottish newspaper account? >> >> This site also indicates that a commemorative 'coin' Rummer Glass for >> the schooner was made with the markings of J&  B Christie. I'm >> suspecting these initials represent  John and Barbara CHRISTIE.  Was >> this common practice to manufacture commemorative glasses and would >> there only be one of these made? >> >> I welcome any information. >> Many thanks, >> >> Susan Enns >> Canada. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com >>  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and  >> the body of the message >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings to the List.......If y'all are interested I've posted some new 'Links' to new articles....[example: HELL ROARING MIKE' ON TRIAL] on my "Blog" as well as a 'slide show' and about four interesting pics.. So if you'd care to take a look to see if your interested....all you need to do is click on this link: "Bud's Blog"<http://navalmerchantshiparticles.blogspot.com/> -- Enjoy!! Bud & R.J We Wish You Well ARTICLES ON MY "BLOG" <http://www.navalmerchantshiparticles.blogspot.com/> MERCHANT SHIP HISTORY SITE <http://home.comcast.net/~cshortridge/site/> SITE OF LOST CREWS<http://home.comcast.net/~cshortridge/site/?/page/LIBERTY__%26amp%3B_MERCHANT_SHIP_CREWS_LOST_/>

Library of Congress has been adding many new papers to their site, even if for some years many dates are still missing, but I guss, as time goes on they will be added on.

Do you mean this site ? http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Library of Congress has been adding many new papers to their site, even if for some years many > dates are still missing, but I guss, as time goes on they will be added on.

Good morning Ann My mariner spent over a year going to Oz and the far east countries. Stops were made along the way, so it may not have been a full half a year per stay on board. Hot at 40 16'30 'N 75 22'30"W Curt Michener ----- Original Message ----- From: <Anndriscoll@aol.com> To: <MARINERS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: [MAR] Query regarding time at sea > > Hi list, I have a statement of service at sea from the National Maritime > Museum for my g.grandfather. My query is if for instance he joined a ship > in > January and his service on that ship was terminated in June of the same > year, would he have been aboard the ship continually with no shore leave? > > Many thanks > > Ann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ann, Piers and the List, Since my last post I have been able to find a rough birth year from a hospital admittance record (1842/3) and spent some time going through Lloyds registers at the Maritime museum in Sydney. Unfortunately there is no record of the Captain in Lloyds, although he is mentioned in 'The Mercantile Navy List 1880', on page 241 (Dolphin listed as being owned by John Frederick Booth) and page 92 of 'The Register of Australian and New Zealand Shipping' (January 01, 1876). So at this stage we have no ticket number for him. The ships he sailed weren't large, so its been suggested that this is the reason for him being absent from the lists. I have also gone through the registration papers for the ships, and while I have located all the vessels, I only have one entry that relates to John himself, and that's 'The Dolphin', his first ship in Australian waters and the only ship he purchased himself. At some stage over the next few years I'm almost certainly going to go through the Archives in Melbourne and Hobart. Apart from various medical records that I know are down there, there could be something connected to his work life that will give me more biographical information. Searches through the UK census's give me a few possibilities (Educated men from maritime families) and even a John Booth on a RN vessel 'Firebrand' in Carthagina Near Granada South America during the 1861 Census. I was able to order up his Entry Record from the national archives and the biographical details are close (b. Aberdeen, 1894) it appears that this John Booth is unable to write as it is signed with an 'X'. Also, I don't know properly, but what are the chances of being a 'boy 1st class' in 1861 and then Captaining a Schooner in 1864? (if any list member wants to weigh in on this please feel free) I have been fortunate that I have so much information in the local papers from the early 1860's. He seemed to have some luck in opening up a river in Tasmania for logging and a few wrecks thereafter. All these are wonderfully written up in the papers as well as a beautiful report written by the man himself. From that time he blend in and completes his work life. I have a number of inwards passenger lists to help me track his movements as well as the Shipping movements listed in the newspapers of the time. Unfortunately The Captain ended his days at the Kew Psyciatric Hospital in Melbourne, but again (from a family history viewpoint) good for me, as this is where I was able to gain a rough birth date. My search is ongoing, but seems to have hit a slow patch (until Archive visits). I want to thank the list, not only for their direct help but also for clarifying many issues in other posts. I'll add a few things in the next few months, including an account of life on board in the 1880's, from the perspective of a 10 year old. Much thanks, Paul Booth > Hello Ann > > Is your friend Paul Booth by any chance? He was asking about John > Frederick Booth of the Dolphin and Moyne on the list back in October. > > If not, maybe you should get together. I’m bcc-ing him a copy of > this. > > Cheers > Piers >

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:51:24 +1000, Paul Booth <peebooth@mac.com> wrote: >Also, I don't know properly, but what are the chances of being >a 'boy 1st class' in 1861 and then Captaining a Schooner in 1864? (if >any list member wants to weigh in on this please feel free) Paul I would have thought that he would be able to read and write if he was a boy 1st class and would as such he would have signed on for a Continuous Service engagement in the RN, so committing himself to some 10-12 years in the RN, unless he purchased his discharge or deserted from the service. You should be able to download his service record for a small fee from the National Archives - see : http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/navy.asp and search Registers of Seamen's Services (ADM 139, ADM 188).. As a Boy First Class he would have been under 20 years of age, and would have been in the process of being trained to be an ordinary seaman, a prospective Able Seaman, and I'm not sure that he would be the sort of chap I would want to command a schooner.....not the easiest sort of vessel to sail, and although one does read of young masters in their early 20s in command of these vessels I get the feeling that they are invariably young men who have sailed in these vessels since they were boys and had probably worked their way up from cabin boy to mate, and then master, a somewhat different background to that of a Seaman.in the Royal Navy, who no doubt would be taught to sail small RN boats. See the Boy's Manual of Seamanship and Gunnery for more detail http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/B_S_M/Contents.html Plus as a master in the merchant service there are a whole load of things one needs to know regarding cargos, how to obtain them, stow them, and much else, along with ship handling, navigation, and much else, subjects which a naval AB would probably never need to know. But on the other hand an AB, in addition to being able to work aloft, can probably wield a cutlass and man a canon etc Paul 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Hello Ann You don't say when this was, what his job was, or where the voyage commenced or ended, so it is difficult to answer this. Assuming this is sometime in the nineteenth century, and we're dealing with a merchant seaman on a sailing ship, the answer is that he may not have had much leave apart, possibly, from the odd Sunday or evening ashore. If it was a long voyage, they may not have called at any intermediate ports other than their destination. At their destination he probably had to work unloading and loading cargo, or carrying out maintenance on the ship during the day, so would have had little free time. He might have been allowed to go ashore on an evening or Sunday (the day on which the crew normally had some time to do things for themselves, like washing clothes, rather than working on the ship). However, masters continually suffered from losing crewmen who went ashore and didn't come back so they didn't allow them too much time off for fear of finding themselves without a crew. Often the absence was involuntary because the men were drugged/made drunk, kidnapped and shipped aboard another vessel by "crimps" in the practice known as "Shanghai-ing", but it seems that surprisingly often they could be persuaded to desert of their own accord. So masters were reluctant to crew off the ship, and if they did, they made sure that they didn't give them all the wages due to them, so that they couldn't buy too much drink - which rightly or wrongly, sailors were then seen as being prone to do. As a sailor your chap is very unlikely to have enjoyed anything like a paid "holiday" at any time: ship owners and masters took the view that crewmen were signing on board to work and they certainly weren't going to allow them to enjoy themselves at their expense! On large foreign-going vessels it wasn't terribly common for anyone except the master to make more than one voyage in the same vessel. This is a bit of a generalisation; of course there were some, but it was normal for crew to sign on board a vessel only for one round voyage and when they returned to the UK or a northern European port, they were usually concerned to find another ship as soon as possible because they were no longer being paid. At this time few if any merchant seamen (some masters and officers and all apprentices excepted) had anything like continuous employment. Some ports had a worse reputation for desertions than others and one would expect that the leash would be lengthened or shortened accordingly. If he was a mate, apprentice, or other responsible person like a bosun or carpenter he might have enjoyed more latitude for time off than an AB or OS would. Masters seem to generally have had an easy time of it in port - loading and unloading was left to the mates, and many accounts by apprentices give the impression that many masters spent a lot of time in port socialising ashore or on other vessels, assuming that they didn't have complicated paperwork like insurance claims to deal with. Of course at sea they were responsible 100% of the time, so they probably took the view that they were entitled to it. So in a six month voyage - say a run UK to Australia and back in a sailing ship - your man may have sampled a few beers or enjoyed other pleasures ashore in Adelaide or Newcastle or wherever but he would probably have had to have been back aboard that night. If he was RN, or if we are talking about the 20th Century, or a steamer, ignore what I've said as things may have been different; I don't know! Cheers Piers _____ From: Piers Smith-Cresswell [mailto:pierssc@yahoo.com] Sent: 10 July 2011 21:19 To: Piers Smith-Cresswell Subject: Re: [MAR] Query regarding time at sea _____ From: "Anndriscoll@aol.com" <Anndriscoll@aol.com> To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011, 18:49 Subject: [MAR] Query regarding time at sea Hi list, I have a statement of service at sea from the National Maritime Museum for my g.grandfather. My query is if for instance he joined a ship in January and his service on that ship was terminated in June of the same year, would he have been aboard the ship continually with no shore leave? Many thanks Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message u'

Hello Ann Is your friend Paul Booth by any chance? He was asking about John Frederick Booth of the Dolphin and Moyne on the list back in October. If not, maybe you should get together. I’m bcc-ing him a copy of this. Cheers Piers _____ From: Piers Smith-Cresswell [mailto:pierssc@yahoo.com] Sent: 10 July 2011 21:12 To: Piers Smith-Cresswell Subject: Fw: [MAR] Fwd: Where to look next John F Booth -& ships ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Anndriscoll@aol.com" <Anndriscoll@aol.com> To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011, 20:36 Subject: [MAR] Fwd: Where to look next John F Booth -& ships ____________________________________ I am trying to help a friend in Australia who is seeking information about his g.g. grandfather John F. Booth. Below is a list of the ships he believes John Booth sailed on or was master of. Where can we go to find crew lists for these ships and hopefully John Booth's register ticket? Many thanks Ann 1864-1867 ‘Dolphin’ #48398 Wrecked Pieman River, Tasmania 1867 ‘Moyne’ #48267 Wrecked Pieman River, Tasmania 1867-1870 ‘Sarah’ #31908 Wrecked Crescent Heads 1871-1872 ‘The Peveril’ 1872-1881 ‘Sarah Ann’ # 42983 1881-1882 ‘Alexandra’ Brig 239t ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the messageÒ

____________________________________ I am trying to help a friend in Australia who is seeking information about his g.g. grandfather John F. Booth. Below is a list of the ships he believes John Booth sailed on or was master of. Where can we go to find crew lists for these ships and hopefully John Booth's register ticket? Many thanks Ann 1864-1867 ‘Dolphin’ #48398 Wrecked Pieman River, Tasmania 1867 ‘Moyne’ #48267 Wrecked Pieman River, Tasmania 1867-1870 ‘Sarah’ #31908 Wrecked Crescent Heads 1871-1872 ‘The Peveril’ 1872-1881 ‘Sarah Ann’ # 42983 1881-1882 ‘Alexandra’ Brig 239t

Helen There is a Frederick SLADE, note no William, (although a middle name was often a added at a later date), who may or may not be your man : this guy is described in the Navy List, as being promoted to Lieutenant on 26 Sep 1811, and is still included in the Navy List in 1847 and in 1849 O'Byrne included the following in his Naval Biographical Dictionary, interspersed with one or two additional notes of explanation by me : SLADE, (Lieutenant 1811, Full Pay = 10 years ; Half Pay 33 years). Frederick SLADE entered the Navy 27 Jun 1804, as L.M., (which I take to be as a Landsman i.e. someone without naval experience.), on board the Culloden, 74, Captain Christopher Cole, fitting for the flag of Sir Edw. Pellew, Commander-in-Chief, in the East Indies, http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/C/01210.html where he attained the rating of midshipman in May 1805, and assisted at the destruction, 27 Nov 1806, of a Dutch frigate, 7 brigs of war, and about 20 armed and other merchant vessels lying in Batabia Roads. >From Sept. 1807, until Aug. 1810 he was employed in the Baltic and Mediterranean, as Midshipman, and Master's Mate, in the Salsette: http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/S/04069.html and Nereus http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/N/03214a.html frigates, Captains Walter Bathurst and Peter Heywood. He then joined the Christian VII, 80 : http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/C/00973.html bearing the flag of Sir E. Pellew, of the Texel, and again with that officer in the Mediterranean in the Caledonia, 120 guns, was nominated 16 Aug 1811, Acting Lieutenant, of the Cumberland, 74, Captains Robert Waller Otway and Thos. Baker. He was confirmed 26 Sep. following, but invalided towards the close of the year, and was lastly, from March 1812, Until Jan 1814, employed a second time in the Baltic, in the Zealous, 74, Captain Thos. Boys. This guy seems to disappear from the Navy List circa 1850, which is about the same time that you say your Frederick William SLADE died. Since there were few posts for naval lieutenants after the end of the war, compared with the number still on the books, the Admiralty seem to encourage naval officer to live in the colonies, as long as they had the appropriate permissions : but if you don't think that this is your man so you need check out the Navy Lists to find when you man was promoted to Lieutenant, presumably after 1816 - I can't see F.W. mentioned circa 1811-16, only F. Slade. Paul On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT), Helen Carter <helen.carter28@yahoo.com> wrote: >I'm trying to find some info on Frederick William SLADE'S naval career >  >He was born 1787 at Aston Upthorpe, Berkshire >In 1822 he arrived in Tasmania with his sister and her family, returning to England 1824 >He married 1830 at Reading Berkshire >Arrived West Australia 1840 with his sister >and died 1850 West Australia  >  >>From 1822 newspaper clippings name him as Lt, F. W. SLADE, R.N. >from what I can gather he was dixscharged from the Royal Navy by 1822 >  >Helen > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Hi list, I have a statement of service at sea from the National Maritime Museum for my g.grandfather. My query is if for instance he joined a ship in January and his service on that ship was terminated in June of the same year, would he have been aboard the ship continually with no shore leave? Many thanks Ann