Dear List,  I am looking for any information that might be available on a ship owner/merchant named Mulreany.  They operated between the West coast of Ireland (Donegal Bay), and France, Northern Spain and Portugal.  They shipped wines and spirit and other commodities to Ireland around the late 1700 to early 1850. I understand from family stories that the Captain of one of the ships was a Scott  named Bennett.  Any information would be much appreciated.     Thank you and best regards, Seán Tapley

Edie >Defiance 8/7/1796 -10/11/1798 Per Rif Winfield's British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793-1817, the Defiance was operating in the English Channel during the period in question and was off Portsmouth in 1797 and present during the Mutiny at Spithead - see. http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval_History/Vol_II/P_023.html >Tigress 23/12/1798 -10/6/1799 Regret nothing on this vessel although I note that from Aug thru' to Oct the vessel was employed on the expedition to Holland : http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/T/04695.html >Pearl 27/7/1799 -31/10/1801 See: http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/P/03413.html >Foudroyant 1/11/1801 - 7/12/1801 Was hardly on board a dog watch so probably being taken to join the Massina / Messina regret I can find no trace of an RN vessel with this or a similar name. If you can send me a copy of the Certificate of Service I'll see if I can offer an opinion regarding what the name might be. >Calcutta 21/11/1802 - 11/6/1804 May 1802 - Feb 1803 the Calcutta was fitted out at Chatham as a Convict Ship and sailed for Port Phillip (the one down your way), 25 Apr 1803, and was back in the UK by 24 July 1804. >Crescent 27/8/1804 - 19/2/1806 Service in the North Sea. >Alert 18/4/1806- 31/7/1807 Also appears to have served in the North Sea and surrounding area. The Alert was a converted collier, about which probably the less said the better. T.B. was a major problem in the RN right up to the end of WWII, what with inadequate ventilation and damp living conditions, and even when I left the service some 30 years ago we had to go for our annual chest x-ray to make sure we were clear. There were few, if any apprenticeships, in the RN or RM : one learnt a trade in one of the dockyards or elsewhere before joining the service. There was little or no possibility of having a master and servant relationship, as required by indentures for apprentices. It wasn't until much later in the 19th Century that apprenticeships were introduced into the RN in the Engineering and later in the Electrical Branches. That said many men learned a trade on board ship and suitable men might be allocated to the Sailmaker's or Cooper's Crew etc., when they joined a ship, but these trades were not usually available to Royal Marines, but that said it would appear that some RM personnel may well served as lamp trimmers, one of those trades which sounds simple, but when you are living on board a wooden ship with straw for live-stock, and gunpowder etc. there is far more to it than just trimming the lamps. Paul On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:48:44 +1000, "Edie McArthur" <ediemc@bigpond.com> wrote: >Hi >I have several Ships my son in laws ancestor James Bryan of Somerset, served on between the years shown below. I have no idea where they served and what battle and wondered if anyone can help me with this please. This information came from the Greenwich Hospital Pensioner discharge from the Royal Marines paper. I am now waiting for the papers from the National Archives Kew of James Bryans son, Silas Bryan. He attended the Greenwich Hospital School. > >As yet I haven't found any other full record but as James was 27 when he was discahrged Consumptive in 1808 to the Greenwich Hospital, he would have been aout 15 when he joined the royal Marines. Would he have apprenticeship papers or was that necessary > >Defiance 8/7/1796 -10/11/1798 >Tigress 23/12/1798 -10/6/1799 >Pearl 27/7/1799 -31/10/1801 >Foudroyant 1/11/1801 - 7/12/1801 >Massina 8/12/1801 - 13/9/1802 >Calcutta 21/11/1802 - 11/6/1804 >Crescent 27/8/1804 - 19/2/1806 >Alert 18/4/1806- 31/7/1807 > >Thanks >Edie > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Hi Paul I couldn't find anything for my Royal Marine Light Infantry ancestor 'online' but did find his service records at The National Archives when I visited. There appears to be an issue with the accuracy of the search function. So don't give up just because an online search reveals nothing. Regards Dawn Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jul 2011, at 10:55, Paul Benyon <pbenyon@pbenyon.plus.com> wrote: If you haven't done so already would suggest that you read the National Archives guide on the search for Royal Marine service records: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/rm-other-ranks.htm Since service records for Royal Marines 1842 -1936 can be downloaded from the National Archives : http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royalmarines.asp and I can find no trace of him it would appear that he probably left the Royal Marines prior to 1842, but you might like to have a look yourself to check I've not made a spelling eror ? I note that the Royal Marine Artillery formed a part of the Royal Marines until 1859, when a division was formed for them. The fact that he spent most of his time at Portsmouth might suggest that he was in the Portsmouth Division, and being as we would probably be off to sea fairly regularly his wife preferred to remain at Chatham where it would appear that her family may have resided ? The importance of knowing which division he served in will hopefully become apparent when you read the guide. Paul On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:32:04 +0100, "Gene Genie" <gene.genie@talktalk.net> wrote: Hi Listers I have just re-joined this list after several years' absence and still trying to trace my 3 x great grandfather Joseph (Thomas) LONGDON who was a private in the Royal Marine Artillery circa 1815-1850? The only information I have about him is that he was in the RMA @ Chatham in Kent as per his 3 children's baptismal records (his wife was living in Chatham at the time) However, on the baptismal records he is shown as residing in Portsmouth, Hampshire! I know that the Royal Marines have connections with Portsmouth, but why was his wife still in Chatham and the baptisms took place there? The last sighting I have of him is in 1847 in Gravesend, Kent, where on the wedding certificate for his son (Joseph junior) he is shown as a "mariner" On the 1851 census his wife Ann (e) is shown as a widow still living in Chatham where she had resided since 1786. A distant relative has tried searching the Records Office in London for any trace of his RMA records but with no success. I would be grateful for any help or information where I can try next for RMA, mariner, other service records or even place of death, as this has been my blank wall for many years. Many thanks in advance Regards Chris Longdon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you haven't done so already would suggest that you read the National Archives guide on the search for Royal Marine service records: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/rm-other-ranks.htm Since service records for Royal Marines 1842 -1936 can be downloaded from the National Archives : http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royalmarines.asp and I can find no trace of him it would appear that he probably left the Royal Marines prior to 1842, but you might like to have a look yourself to check I've not made a spelling eror ? I note that the Royal Marine Artillery formed a part of the Royal Marines until 1859, when a division was formed for them. The fact that he spent most of his time at Portsmouth might suggest that he was in the Portsmouth Division, and being as we would probably be off to sea fairly regularly his wife preferred to remain at Chatham where it would appear that her family may have resided ? The importance of knowing which division he served in will hopefully become apparent when you read the guide. Paul On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:32:04 +0100, "Gene Genie" <gene.genie@talktalk.net> wrote: >Hi Listers > > > >I have just re-joined this list after several years' absence and still >trying to trace my 3 x great grandfather Joseph (Thomas) LONGDON who was a >private in the Royal Marine Artillery circa 1815-1850? > > > >The only information I have about him is that he was in the RMA @ Chatham in >Kent as per his 3 children's baptismal records (his wife was living in >Chatham at the time) However, on the baptismal records he is shown as >residing in Portsmouth, Hampshire! I know that the Royal Marines have >connections with Portsmouth, but why was his wife still in Chatham and the >baptisms took place there? > > > >The last sighting I have of him is in 1847 in Gravesend, Kent, where on the >wedding certificate for his son (Joseph junior) he is shown as a "mariner" >On the 1851 census his wife Ann (e) is shown as a widow still living in >Chatham where she had resided since 1786. > > > >A distant relative has tried searching the Records Office in London for any >trace of his RMA records but with no success. I would be grateful for any >help or information where I can try next for RMA, mariner, other service >records or even place of death, as this has been my blank wall for many >years. > > > >Many thanks in advance > > > >Regards > > > >Chris Longdon > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Greetings to the List, For those that may have some interest in "Pay and Prizes of the old U.S. Navy 1776-1899"....I just posted a link to any article that I believe offers some great info in that era. Oh yes it can be dry reading...but for someone that is trying to get a handle on what the outlay of a yearly salary of an Admiral ...or whatever rank....it is in there. You can get to my blog with this address: http://navalmerchantshiparticles.blogspot.com/ Hope you find the article useful -- Enjoy!! Bud & R.J We Wish You Well ARTICLES ON MY "BLOG" MERCHANT SHIP HISTORY SITE SITE OF LOST CREWS

Hi Chris I traced a relative who served in the Royal Marine Light Infantry circa 1850 by finding his service records at The National Archives at Kew in ADM 157. It listed all the ships he had served on, with dates and reason for discharge. There was also some personal information on him which filled in some gaps. Researching the ships listed then helped to place him, for example in the Baltic in 1854 and the Crimea in 1855.   There were muster lists for the ship in ADM 38, and Ships Logs in ADM 53. Perhaps the greatest source of information was the Surgeon's report for HMS Dauntless in 1855/56 - also held by The National Archives in ADM 101. The report listed every man who had had a 'lost time incident or illness' in modern day parlance. The summary at the end was effectively the ship's war diary for the year, detailing where the ship had been and the actions they were involved in. That report solved the mystery of why so few men were injured when one of the ship's canon blew up and severely damaged the ship. The ship was listing and the Captain sent everyone to the other side of the ship to correct the list! So you might find out information on your relative from the most unlikely sources! regards Dawn ________________________________ From: Gene Genie <gene.genie@talktalk.net> To: MARINERS@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 July, 2011 19:32:04 Subject: [MAR] Royal Marine Artillery Hi Listers I have just re-joined this list after several years' absence and still trying to trace my 3 x great grandfather Joseph (Thomas) LONGDON who was a private in the Royal Marine Artillery circa 1815-1850? The only information I have about him is that he was in the RMA @ Chatham in Kent as per his 3 children's baptismal records (his wife was living in Chatham at the time) However, on the baptismal records he is shown as residing in Portsmouth, Hampshire! I know that the Royal Marines have connections with Portsmouth, but why was his wife still in Chatham and the baptisms took place there? The last sighting I have of him is in 1847 in Gravesend, Kent, where on the wedding certificate for his son (Joseph junior) he is shown as a "mariner" On the 1851 census his wife Ann (e) is shown as a widow still living in Chatham where she had resided since 1786. A distant relative has tried searching the Records Office in London for any trace of his RMA records but with no success. I would be grateful for any help or information where I can try next for RMA, mariner, other service records or even place of death, as this has been my blank wall for many years. Many thanks in advance Regards Chris Longdon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers I have just re-joined this list after several years' absence and still trying to trace my 3 x great grandfather Joseph (Thomas) LONGDON who was a private in the Royal Marine Artillery circa 1815-1850? The only information I have about him is that he was in the RMA @ Chatham in Kent as per his 3 children's baptismal records (his wife was living in Chatham at the time) However, on the baptismal records he is shown as residing in Portsmouth, Hampshire! I know that the Royal Marines have connections with Portsmouth, but why was his wife still in Chatham and the baptisms took place there? The last sighting I have of him is in 1847 in Gravesend, Kent, where on the wedding certificate for his son (Joseph junior) he is shown as a "mariner" On the 1851 census his wife Ann (e) is shown as a widow still living in Chatham where she had resided since 1786. A distant relative has tried searching the Records Office in London for any trace of his RMA records but with no success. I would be grateful for any help or information where I can try next for RMA, mariner, other service records or even place of death, as this has been my blank wall for many years. Many thanks in advance Regards Chris Longdon

Have you thought about self publishing? I have used several on-line companies to produce photo books and one Blurb also does both text only books and photo books. The final product is very good and the software pretty easy to use, with tutorials on the site. You can sell the books via Blurb, you set the price and they will print them on demand for you and you get any profit. Their website is here: http://www.blurb.com <http://www.blurb.com/> Hope this helps Gavin On 20/07/2011 09:05, Anne Speight wrote: > For a large part of his life my grandfather 1875-1971 was a ships wireless officer. He wrote a lot about his life through war time letters to his father and in a detailed daily diary (1905 - a 6 week journey from Kimberley, South Africa along East coast of Africa and through the Suez canal to London). He gives graphic detail of life on ship and of the various ports of call. I have masses of other memorabilia including photos of ships, ports of call etc. After the war he was on the Australian mail ships for many years so we have accounts of geisha girls in Japan, visits to volcanic sights in New Zealand etc. He was an opinionated man – back in England several of his letters to the press included topics about politics, religion etc. > > I think there is plenty of material from which to collate a book and I would like to discuss this possibility with a suitable publisher. > > Can anyone suggest who I might approach. > > Anne > Loughborough > England > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi MArgM Thanks for looking, I have the family from the 1500's about 4000 of them on my FTM database - GGF William is the elusive mariner...... his descendants are also covered. Regards Daryl from Oz -----Original Message----- From: MargM [mailto:genknut@exemail.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 2:48 PM To: Daryl Rickards; MARINERS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MAR] William Belsey - Crew to Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Rickards" <darylrickard01@optusnet.com.au> To: <MARINERS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: [MAR] William Belsey - Crew to Australia > Hi, > > I have watched this list for some weeks now and I think I am in > the right > place. > > I am looking for my GGF William Belsey b:1830 Upchurch Kent, > son of Lt. > Henry Belsey RN. William was enrolled at the Greenwich Royal > Hospital School > in 1841 and that is the last we know of him in England. In 1868 > he married > Catherine Mulvin in Melbourne Australia. > Hi Daryl Cant help with actual mariner info but William Henry BELSEY is in in Ancestrys public trees 3 times A Catherine BELSEY left a will http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search_results.asp Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Rickards" <darylrickard01@optusnet.com.au> To: <MARINERS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: [MAR] William Belsey - Crew to Australia > Hi, > > I have watched this list for some weeks now and I think I am in > the right > place. > > I am looking for my GGF William Belsey b:1830 Upchurch Kent, > son of Lt. > Henry Belsey RN. William was enrolled at the Greenwich Royal > Hospital School > in 1841 and that is the last we know of him in England. In 1868 > he married > Catherine Mulvin in Melbourne Australia. > Hi Daryl Cant help with actual mariner info but William Henry BELSEY is in in Ancestrys public trees 3 times A Catherine BELSEY left a will http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search_results.asp Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

Anne The Writers' and Artists' Yearbook by A & C Black contains comprehensive information about all aspects of writing and publishing. It costs £15+ to buy but you may well find it in your local library. I've used it for many years and found it very helpful. Good luck! Tony Holkham www.tonyholkham.org in sunny (but only just) Pembrokeshire On 20 July 2011 09:05, Anne Speight <annep.speight@ntlworld.com> wrote: > For a large part of his life my grandfather 1875-1971 was a ships wireless > officer. He wrote a lot about his life through war time letters to his > father and in a detailed daily diary (1905 - a 6 week journey from > Kimberley, South Africa along East coast of Africa and through the Suez > canal to London). He gives graphic detail of life on ship and of the various > ports of call. I have masses of other memorabilia including photos of ships, > ports of call etc. After the war he was on the Australian mail ships for > many years so we have accounts of geisha girls in Japan, visits to volcanic > sights in New Zealand etc. He was an opinionated man – back in England > several of his letters to the press included topics about politics, religion > etc. > > I think there is plenty of material from which to collate a book and I > would like to discuss this possibility with a suitable publisher. > > Can anyone suggest who I might approach. > > Anne > Loughborough > England > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I have watched this list for some weeks now and I think I am in the right place. I am looking for my GGF William Belsey b:1830 Upchurch Kent, son of Lt. Henry Belsey RN. William was enrolled at the Greenwich Royal Hospital School in 1841 and that is the last we know of him in England. In 1868 he married Catherine Mulvin in Melbourne Australia. There is family talk that he was a member of crew and sailed from the UK to New Zealand (Christchurch) and then to Australia. Can anyone advise where I might look for him as a mariner TIA Daryl from Oz

Hello Listers Apparently I had posted this query to the Admin section. Reposting now for the list. My query was in regard to the "Jumping Ship" query but being specific to that ship. My Great Grandfather, according to the family stories, was a Mariner, and we have a photo of his Mariner's "Stick" with its rounded head. He used to sing "sailing ditties" to the family -- I would have thought that he was not just a passenger on a ship, because of this. He was said to have "jumped ship" at the port of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia in the mid 1850's to go to the Goldfields to "earn his fortune" -- (this came from a younger brother in a letter from London to William John Horne in NSW in 1885 - the original of which I have). I did find a William Horne on the Creswick Goldfields in the Census March 1856 with his condition to be able to vote being he had a "miners right". William John Horne was born in Regents Park, Middlesex in December 1833 and was married in NSW on 2 May 1861. Thanking you again for any response. I have seen the Wikipedia site and this definitely could be a possibility. Anne

Chris > What I would really love to know is what happened next? I would have thought that he would have done his best to ensure that you, or anyone else for that matter, didn't find that information, and I would hazard a guess that he probably changed his name in order to leave Oz for the UK, probably as part of the crew of a merchant vessel ? >is there a book or website which can describe the training RN training ships were introduced into the Royal Navy around the early 1860s, and initially at least, the training appears to have been very basic, and much of the training continued to take place on board ship. But soon training ships were set up, at least for boy seamen and you should probably get a good idea as to what a seaman was expected to learn in the "Boy's Manual of Seamanship and Gunnery," preface dated 1871, that I've put on line at : http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/B_S_M/Contents.html Most certainly an eye opener IMHO, and probably suggests that most seamen were probably literate ! Paul On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:27:21 +0000, Chris Gilham <chrisgilham@hotmail.com> wrote: >Hello Listers > >I have just discovered that my great grandfather was a boy when he enlisted in >the royal navy in 1868, when he was sent to HMS Fisgard. Later he served on HMS >Clio and HMS Sandfly, but jumped ship whilst the HMS Sandfly was docked in >Sydney harbour in 1875. The Victorian Gazette put out a sort of 'wanted poster' >for him offering a £3 reward. What I >would really love to know is what happened next? He obviously managed to >return to England, as he was married in London in 1879 - perhaps he returned on a merchant ship; but, is there any way of discovering the >facts? Possibly I'll never know, but if anyone on the list can help, I would >appreciate it. > > > >Also , is there a book or website which can describe the training >aboard HMS Fisgard in the 1860s to early >1870s, please? > > > >Many thanks. > > > >Chris > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Hi again. Another important question for me as on a census we have Robert Evans as a Vessels mate, a late census has him as a Marine Merchant. So What was a Vessels mate back in say 1851 onwards. Was he second in command or replacement Captain. I saw article but it didn't say Vessels mate, but similar. I need Vessels mate tobe sure. thanks Edie

Thanks for that. Iwillsee if they have a print. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Mapplebeck" <ron.mapplebeck1@virgin.net> To: "Edie McArthur" <ediemc@bigpond.com> Cc: "Mariners Rootsweb" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] Royal Marine Ships, Where did they serve please > Edie, > > Something of the quite interesting career of the FOUDROYANT, built 1798, > is given in the top half of the page at: > http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheets_foudroyant.htm > > Ron Mapplebeck (UK) > ***** > On 19/07/2011 23:48, Edie McArthur wrote: >> Hi I have several Ships my son in laws ancestor James Bryan of >> Somerset, served on between the years shown below. I have no idea >> where they served and what battle and wondered if anyone can help me >> with this please. This information came from the Greenwich Hospital >> Pensioner discharge from the Royal Marines paper. I am now waiting >> for the papers from the National Archives Kew of James Bryans son, >> Silas Bryan. He attended the Greenwich Hospital School. >> >> As yet I haven't found any other full record but as James was 27 when >> he was discahrged Consumptive in 1808 to the Greenwich Hospital, he >> would have been aout 15 when he joined the royal Marines. Would he >> have apprenticeship papers or was that necessary >> >> Defiance 8/7/1796 -10/11/1798 Tigress 23/12/1798 -10/6/1799 Pearl >> 27/7/1799 -31/10/1801 Foudroyant 1/11/1801 - 7/12/1801 Massina >> 8/12/1801 - 13/9/1802 Calcutta 21/11/1802 - 11/6/1804 Crescent >> 27/8/1804 - 19/2/1806 Alert 18/4/1806- 31/7/1807 >> >> Thanks Edie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >>

Thanks for that will take a look. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Latham" <web@mightyseas.co.uk> To: "MARINERS" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:35 AM Subject: [MAR] Photographs of the 1864 cyclone at Calcutta > The correspondence on the 1864 cyclone at Calcutta caught my eye as I > have an interest in one of the ships wrecked there, the Aladdin. I did a > desultory search for new information on Google and surprised myself by > finding a photograph of this wreck, together with that of the paddle > steamer Mirapore, taken by John Thomson and now in the George Eastman > Collection. > > http://www.geh.org/fm/mismis/m197302190041.jpg > > There are several other photographs of the aftermath of this cyclone, > which destroyed 160 vessels and brought about the bankruptcy of a number > of Liverpool insurance companies. > > http://www.geh.org/ne/mismi3/india_sum00005.html#73:0219:0041 > > A further look around the Internet found this site which has eight > prints of the aftermath of the cyclone taken from the Illustrated London > News. Type 1864 calcutta cyclone in the Search box. > > http://www.prints-4-all.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=0 > > Best Wishes, > > Tim Latham > www.mightyseas.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thankyou for that Adi, that Captains list could prove helpful Three fit within the right age. I will send on to JUne Thanks Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: Mme_N_Carmichael To: Edie McArthur Cc: mariners-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:08 AM Subject: Re: Ship "Colombo" sank in Calcutta Cyclone 5th October 1864, on way to Hull, Captain Robert Evans Hello again, Edie, Further to my last, 1) there is a Robert William Evans, Master's Certificate #2772, born Portsmouth, 1814. In 1859 he was master of the P. and O. steamer ALMA, but chances are the word "steamer" would have appeared in the newspaper accounts of the cyclone, if he were the 'right' Robert Evans. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-ukNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA364&dq=%22Evans,+Robert%22+Alma&hl=en&ei=qLglTuu7HKifsQLer9GODA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22Evans%2C%20Robert%22%20Alma&f=false 2) However, there are plenty more Robert Evans' for you to eliminate in the online indices to Lloyd's Captains Registers: http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm Scroll to the bottom of that page and click on the letter "E". Regards, Adi

Hi Adi The extra informtion came from an earlier account, ie There is an earlier account which may be the same ship but that gives a date of 24 Feb 1865 ( I assume) and which says that the captain, carpenter and two seamen were washed overboard in a cyclone. That account said that the ship had stayed afloat, just but had lost just about everything on its deck and was close to sinking. This would work in as it would have taken about a month for the news to get to Bristol from Calcutta. Cyclone happened October 1864. Thanks Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: Mme_N_Carmichael To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com ; Edie McArthur Cc: mariners-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Ship "Colombo" sank in Calcutta Cyclone 5th October 1864, on way to Hull, Captain Robert Evans

For a large part of his life my grandfather 1875-1971 was a ships wireless officer. He wrote a lot about his life through war time letters to his father and in a detailed daily diary (1905 - a 6 week journey from Kimberley, South Africa along East coast of Africa and through the Suez canal to London). He gives graphic detail of life on ship and of the various ports of call. I have masses of other memorabilia including photos of ships, ports of call etc. After the war he was on the Australian mail ships for many years so we have accounts of geisha girls in Japan, visits to volcanic sights in New Zealand etc. He was an opinionated man – back in England several of his letters to the press included topics about politics, religion etc. I think there is plenty of material from which to collate a book and I would like to discuss this possibility with a suitable publisher. Can anyone suggest who I might approach. Anne Loughborough England