Thank you for your reply.   Unfortunatly I dont have his ship, all I know is they plyed from Maryport to Ireland. Also I dont know what year, all I know it was 1861 ( he was on the census ) and 1869. I think he deliverd coal/wood etc. David Crone his father and grandfather all did the same, but he was the unfortunate one who went down with his ship. I will go and look at the addy you sent me.      Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England From: Mick <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> To: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 11:24 Subject: Re: [MAR] Help Please Hi Cathy, The Maritime History Archive give a list of institutions holding crew agreements. http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/codemeanings.php#cu There are two listed for Cumbria and or the Maritime History Archive itself may have records depending on the year. What was the vessels name and do you have a year for when it sank in Dublin Bay ?. Mick O Rourke Mariners List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cathy, The Maritime History Archive give a list of institutions holding crew agreements. http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/codemeanings.php#cu There are two listed for Cumbria and or the Maritime History Archive itself may have records depending on the year. What was the vessels name and do you have a year for when it sank in Dublin Bay ?. Mick O Rourke Mariners List

Hello Cathy, The expert on Maryport shipping is at web@mightyseas.co.uk Worth a try! regards Ted On 13/09/2011 08:45, Cathy Trewhitt wrote: > Has anyone had any joy, finding documentation of > Mariners out of Maryport in Cumbria. > > I have at least 3/4 jenerations of these, and my Gt > grandfather was lost with his boat/ship, and even > though I know this was in Dublin Bay, I can not > find a death for him. > > Has any one any sugestions please. > Cathy > Girl from the most likley place in England > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Max I have completed the indexing of Crew list from National Archives BT 98/507 Port of Registry ~ Swansea Ships Names ~ A-G 1835-1844 and now started Crew list from National Archives BT 98/810 Port of Registry ~ Swansea Ships Names ~ A - Q 1845. Also so far completed West Glamorgan Archives 1862 to 1882 and 1890 to 1894. Indexing on going. The 1835-1844 are very porly kept records. In many cases they are not full names, but initials with surnames. Also the use of abbreviations like Jno and Jos. for John and Joseph. Surnames vary in spelling for the same mariner. Ages are sometimes left off. Place of birth are town names only and in some cases are not the same for the same mariner. Seamans Ticket No. very sparse. Previous ships missing, dates of joining and leaving are sometimes just he year or month and dates of leaving or arriving back into port are blank. I have had to interpret a lot of the data and hunt down ship arrivals to make sense of some of the crew lists. The crew lists are in boxes of rough alphabetic order and filed under Port Rotation No. There is some mis-filing, of ships from other ports especially where the ship sailed out on one register and arrived back on another. i.e Sailed as Sunderland ship and became a Swansea Registered ship and vice versa. Port Rotation No.s on my website have been interpreted into Port No.s for Swansea by referring the masters name on the crew lists and comparing it to thar on the Custom House Register, which contains the Master's name and subsequent master's date of appointment .Taking the master's name on the crew list and comparing it allows one to identify the ship especially when you have a ship called "Ann" and there are several in the box with rotation No's like 96/331 96/90 96/42 where 96 is the Port of Swansea and the other No's are rotation numbers referring to ships called "Ann" on the crew agreements. Many agreements are damaged and unreadable in parts. With the 1845, I now find they are in better condition and so far I have done A to B and they give the Port No of the ship and the Seamans Ticket No. and where registered with a date. Also the apprentices Indenture date and where registered. But one or two have missing ages, previous ships and dates of signing off. Signing on dates again in one or two cases only show a year. Again there are some damaged crew lists. Regards Bryan Richards www.swanseamariners.org.uk over 80,000 entries of mariners from the UK and other parts of the world who sailed on Swansea Registered ships, 1862 to 1882 and 1890 to 1894 and 1835 to 1844 complete. Crew lists for trawlers and Milford Haven also included and samples from other ports. Swansea ship owners from the Custom House register, Marine data marriage bonds of all Welsh mariners, Some impressed men from South Wales and West of England, etc.

 Has anyone had any joy, finding documentation of Mariners out of Maryport in Cumbria. I have at least 3/4 jenerations of these, and my Gt grandfather was lost with his boat/ship, and even though I know this was in Dublin Bay, I can not find a death for him. Has any one any sugestions please.    Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England

Thank you Mick and Peter, very much appreciated! Best regards Terje ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Klein" <klein84@btinternet.com> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta Hello Terje, I think the following link will account for Iturri-Ripa's end. If my Spanish translation serves me, according to this she set out from Aviles to Bilbao with a cargo of coal, and got stranded on rocks on the 24th September 1941 in a dense fog, off the north coast of Spain, between Cabo de Lata and San Pedro del Mar, at Punta Vergajo. The only one of these points on the coast I can locate is Cabo de Lata, which is just outside Santander. The old ship was abandoned on the rocks - the ignominious end of a grand old lady. Not even a victim of war. http://webmar.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=6850&start=0 Regards, PK ________________________________ From: Mick <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> To: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2011, 23:24 Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta W.Tod registered the Vasco Andaluz in Glasgow In 1861 in his own name and she was given the official number 43686, She is listed in Lloyds Registers through the 1860s as owned by W.Tod I suspect he sold her in 61-62 and in the absence of new information continued listed as the owner. She is listed in Lloyds 1876-80 owner Cste-y-Vldosol and registered in Bilbao I lost track of her after 1880. In 1890 she is back in Lloyds register as Ripa with former names Vicenta and Vasco Andaluz, owners are H.Lund Y Claussen, registered Christnsnd Norway, in 1896 her register moves to Bergen and the owner becomes Viuda De H. Lund Y Claussen, the listing is unchanged up to 1901.. My Lloyds registers run out at that stage, but you can find her listed in plimsoll ship data up to 1941 registered in Barcelona name ITURRI-RIPA http://www.plimsollshipdata.org/ship.php?ship_id=51755&name=Ripa . That's as much as I can contribute may be some one else on the list could complete her history for you, I just realized in 1941 she was 80 years old wow. Mick Mariners Mailing List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > Thanks again Mick! > > Looking forward to some more information if possible. > Photo send to your privat e-mail > > Terje > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> > To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > > >> Hi Terje >> >> She was built as Vasco Andaluz by Tod & McGregor . >> Launched for Compania Vasco Andaluza de Vapores, Cadiz on 08/1861 >> >> She was later renamed Vicenta and then Ripa. >> I will try and put some dates to these events later and yes a picture >> might >> be nice. >> >> Mick >> >> Mariners List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whilst this might appear off-topic I note that the BBC have included the Royal Marines as a part of the British Army and therefore wondered if there might be some interest in one or two of the items included on the web page mentioned below. Paul On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:43:32 +0100 (BST), BBC Four <owner-bbcfour@lists.bbc.co.uk> wrote: >BBC Four Collections - Army: A Very British Institution >http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/collections/p00hl622/army-a-very-british-institution >This collection of BBC programmes about the British Army, featuring classic documentaries and historic events dating back to the 1950s, is now available to watch online. >

Hi Mike, There are a couple of censuses that include your John Teare's family, and his probate record is on Ancestry. I am attaching a couple of files for you which I hope will be useful. There are crew lists showing a John Teare, ship's engineer aged 40 ish in the 1920's - too late for your man but possibly a relative? Incidentally William Sansbury Teare married at Liverpool in 1902. Regards, Doug Nichols, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Constantine" <mwconstantine@gmail.com> To: <MARINERS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:43 AM Subject: [MAR] John SANSBURY and John TEARE (was Searching Lloyds Registersetc in UK) > Hi > > Thanks to Paul and Pete for your replies to my previous post > > The two family members I am researching are: > > John SANSBURY Master Mariner born August 1811, Rushen, Isle of Man, died 5 > Jan 1867 swept overboard in a storm off Guernsey, English Channel. > Married Ann SHIMMIN 29 April 1842 Kirk Rushen Isle of Man > > Two of his known ships are the Herald and the Crest (he was Master of the > Crest when he died) - I have just found details of those on CLIP - thanks > Pete. > > We believe he worked the coastal trade, (I have details of his 1845 > voyages) and know he went to the Baltic as he was presented with a punch > bowl by a Danish shipping agent in 1851 (the Sansbury Elsinor Bowl is in > the Manx Museum) > > > John TEARE Ships Engineer born 8 March 1840 Isle of Man, died Liverpool 24 > Feb 1927 > Married Jane SANSBURY (the oldest daughter of John SANSBURY) 4 April 1865 > Walton on the Hill, Liverpool > > We have no information on his career at all, though there is anecdotal > evidence (from a Great niece) of him visiting the engine room of the > Titanic at Southampton before it sailed, so perhaps he worked for White > Star line? and I have a photo of him in New Orleans > > He doesn't appear in any Census that I have found. > > We have full information on both men's families, but virtually nothing on > their careers, so if anyone can help with information or suggestions as to > the best places to do research, (my daughter is in England for the next 5 > weeks) it would be much appreciated > . > > Thanks > Mike > > Mike Constantine > Timaru New Zealand > > > > > > >

Hello Terje, I think the following link will account for Iturri-Ripa's end.  If my Spanish translation serves me, according to this she set out from Aviles to Bilbao with a cargo of coal, and got stranded on rocks on the 24th September 1941 in a dense fog, off the north coast of Spain, between Cabo de Lata and San Pedro del Mar, at Punta Vergajo.  The only one of these points on the coast I can locate is Cabo de Lata, which is just outside Santander.  The old ship was abandoned on the rocks - the ignominious end of a grand old lady.  Not even a victim of war.  http://webmar.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=6850&start=0 Regards, PK ________________________________ From: Mick <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> To: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2011, 23:24 Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta W.Tod registered the Vasco Andaluz in Glasgow In 1861 in his own name and she was given the official number 43686, She is listed in Lloyds Registers through the 1860s as owned by W.Tod I suspect he sold her in 61-62 and in the absence of new information continued listed as the owner. She is listed in Lloyds 1876-80 owner Cste-y-Vldosol and registered in Bilbao I lost track of her after 1880. In 1890 she is back in Lloyds register as Ripa with former names Vicenta and Vasco Andaluz, owners are H.Lund Y Claussen, registered Christnsnd Norway, in 1896 her register moves to Bergen and the owner becomes Viuda De H. Lund Y Claussen, the listing is unchanged up to 1901.. My Lloyds registers run out at that stage, but you can find her listed in plimsoll ship data up to 1941 registered in Barcelona name  ITURRI-RIPA http://www.plimsollshipdata.org/ship.php?ship_id=51755&name=Ripa . That's as much as I can contribute may be some one else on the list could complete her history for you, I just realized in 1941 she was 80 years old wow. Mick Mariners Mailing List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > Thanks again Mick! > > Looking forward to some more information if possible. > Photo send to your privat e-mail > > Terje > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> > To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > > >> Hi Terje >> >> She was built as Vasco Andaluz by Tod & McGregor . >> Launched for Compania Vasco Andaluza de Vapores, Cadiz on  08/1861 >> >> She was later renamed Vicenta and then Ripa. >> I will try and put some dates to these events later and yes a picture >> might >> be nice. >> >> Mick >> >> Mariners List

W.Tod registered the Vasco Andaluz in Glasgow In 1861 in his own name and she was given the official number 43686, She is listed in Lloyds Registers through the 1860s as owned by W.Tod I suspect he sold her in 61-62 and in the absence of new information continued listed as the owner. She is listed in Lloyds 1876-80 owner Cste-y-Vldosol and registered in Bilbao I lost track of her after 1880. In 1890 she is back in Lloyds register as Ripa with former names Vicenta and Vasco Andaluz, owners are H.Lund Y Claussen, registered Christnsnd Norway, in 1896 her register moves to Bergen and the owner becomes Viuda De H. Lund Y Claussen, the listing is unchanged up to 1901.. My Lloyds registers run out at that stage, but you can find her listed in plimsoll ship data up to 1941 registered in Barcelona name ITURRI-RIPA http://www.plimsollshipdata.org/ship.php?ship_id=51755&name=Ripa . That's as much as I can contribute may be some one else on the list could complete her history for you, I just realized in 1941 she was 80 years old wow. Mick Mariners Mailing List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > Thanks again Mick! > > Looking forward to some more information if possible. > Photo send to your privat e-mail > > Terje > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> > To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > > >> Hi Terje >> >> She was built as Vasco Andaluz by Tod & McGregor . >> Launched for Compania Vasco Andaluza de Vapores, Cadiz on 08/1861 >> >> She was later renamed Vicenta and then Ripa. >> I will try and put some dates to these events later and yes a picture >> might >> be nice. >> >> Mick >> >> Mariners List >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> >> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta >> >> >>> Good evening Mick >>> >>> Thank you for answering my question. I found the information in the >>> registerbook of Det Norske Veritas (NV) 1916. My next registerbook are >>> from >>> 1928 - no trace of RIPA then. Her owners was Pedro Clausen; Bilbao. >>> Managers where Joachim Grieg, Bergen. She was also registered in Bergen. >>> I >>> have written her name wrong - it should be RIPA (not RIPAL). According >>> to >>> my >>> notes, she was employed in the fish trade (dried fish) between Norway >>> and >>> Spain. >>> I also have a photo of the ship, I can e-mail it to you if you like? >>> >>> Best regards >>> Terje >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> >>> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta >>> >>> >>>> Hi Terje >>>> >>>> The usual sources have nothing on this vessel, where did you get the >>>> information that you posted do you have any other info which might give >>>> some >>>> leads ?. >>>> >>>> Mick O Rourke >>>> >>>> Mariners List >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> >>>> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:41 AM >>>> Subject: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello all! >>>>> >>>>> I am for the time being, searching the history of the Norwegian >>>>> >>>>> RIPAL x. VICENTA kj.signal JSBT >>>>> Built 1861 ved Tod & McGregor, Glasgow. Delivered August 1861 >>>>> 429grt L169,1fot x B25,1fot x D11,4fot >>>>> 1 compound steam engine, unknown maker. >>>>> >>>>> I can't find the ship mentioned among ships built by Tod & McGregor. >>>>> >>>>> Anybody who can help with information regarding RIPAL? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any possible help. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Terje Nilsen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks again Mick! Looking forward to some more information if possible. Photo send to your privat e-mail Terje ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > Hi Terje > > She was built as Vasco Andaluz by Tod & McGregor . > Launched for Compania Vasco Andaluza de Vapores, Cadiz on 08/1861 > > She was later renamed Vicenta and then Ripa. > I will try and put some dates to these events later and yes a picture > might > be nice. > > Mick > > Mariners List > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> > To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:06 PM > Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > > >> Good evening Mick >> >> Thank you for answering my question. I found the information in the >> registerbook of Det Norske Veritas (NV) 1916. My next registerbook are >> from >> 1928 - no trace of RIPA then. Her owners was Pedro Clausen; Bilbao. >> Managers where Joachim Grieg, Bergen. She was also registered in Bergen. >> I >> have written her name wrong - it should be RIPA (not RIPAL). According to >> my >> notes, she was employed in the fish trade (dried fish) between Norway and >> Spain. >> I also have a photo of the ship, I can e-mail it to you if you like? >> >> Best regards >> Terje >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> >> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta >> >> >>> Hi Terje >>> >>> The usual sources have nothing on this vessel, where did you get the >>> information that you posted do you have any other info which might give >>> some >>> leads ?. >>> >>> Mick O Rourke >>> >>> Mariners List >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> >>> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:41 AM >>> Subject: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta >>> >>> >>>> Hello all! >>>> >>>> I am for the time being, searching the history of the Norwegian >>>> >>>> RIPAL x. VICENTA kj.signal JSBT >>>> Built 1861 ved Tod & McGregor, Glasgow. Delivered August 1861 >>>> 429grt L169,1fot x B25,1fot x D11,4fot >>>> 1 compound steam engine, unknown maker. >>>> >>>> I can't find the ship mentioned among ships built by Tod & McGregor. >>>> >>>> Anybody who can help with information regarding RIPAL? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any possible help. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Terje Nilsen >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening Mick Thank you for answering my question. I found the information in the registerbook of Det Norske Veritas (NV) 1916. My next registerbook are from 1928 - no trace of RIPA then. Her owners was Pedro Clausen; Bilbao. Managers where Joachim Grieg, Bergen. She was also registered in Bergen. I have written her name wrong - it should be RIPA (not RIPAL). According to my notes, she was employed in the fish trade (dried fish) between Norway and Spain. I also have a photo of the ship, I can e-mail it to you if you like? Best regards Terje ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > Hi Terje > > The usual sources have nothing on this vessel, where did you get the > information that you posted do you have any other info which might give > some > leads ?. > > Mick O Rourke > > Mariners List > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> > To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:41 AM > Subject: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > > >> Hello all! >> >> I am for the time being, searching the history of the Norwegian >> >> RIPAL x. VICENTA kj.signal JSBT >> Built 1861 ved Tod & McGregor, Glasgow. Delivered August 1861 >> 429grt L169,1fot x B25,1fot x D11,4fot >> 1 compound steam engine, unknown maker. >> >> I can't find the ship mentioned among ships built by Tod & McGregor. >> >> Anybody who can help with information regarding RIPAL? >> >> Thanks in advance for any possible help. >> >> Best regards >> Terje Nilsen >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Terje She was built as Vasco Andaluz by Tod & McGregor . Launched for Compania Vasco Andaluza de Vapores, Cadiz on 08/1861 She was later renamed Vicenta and then Ripa. I will try and put some dates to these events later and yes a picture might be nice. Mick Mariners List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > Good evening Mick > > Thank you for answering my question. I found the information in the > registerbook of Det Norske Veritas (NV) 1916. My next registerbook are > from > 1928 - no trace of RIPA then. Her owners was Pedro Clausen; Bilbao. > Managers where Joachim Grieg, Bergen. She was also registered in Bergen. I > have written her name wrong - it should be RIPA (not RIPAL). According to > my > notes, she was employed in the fish trade (dried fish) between Norway and > Spain. > I also have a photo of the ship, I can e-mail it to you if you like? > > Best regards > Terje > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> > To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:46 PM > Subject: Re: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > > >> Hi Terje >> >> The usual sources have nothing on this vessel, where did you get the >> information that you posted do you have any other info which might give >> some >> leads ?. >> >> Mick O Rourke >> >> Mariners List >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> >> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:41 AM >> Subject: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta >> >> >>> Hello all! >>> >>> I am for the time being, searching the history of the Norwegian >>> >>> RIPAL x. VICENTA kj.signal JSBT >>> Built 1861 ved Tod & McGregor, Glasgow. Delivered August 1861 >>> 429grt L169,1fot x B25,1fot x D11,4fot >>> 1 compound steam engine, unknown maker. >>> >>> I can't find the ship mentioned among ships built by Tod & McGregor. >>> >>> Anybody who can help with information regarding RIPAL? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any possible help. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Terje Nilsen >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Terje The usual sources have nothing on this vessel, where did you get the information that you posted do you have any other info which might give some leads ?. Mick O Rourke Mariners List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terje Nilsen" <tnil4@broadpark.no> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: [MAR] Ripal x Vicenta > Hello all! > > I am for the time being, searching the history of the Norwegian > > RIPAL x. VICENTA kj.signal JSBT > Built 1861 ved Tod & McGregor, Glasgow. Delivered August 1861 > 429grt L169,1fot x B25,1fot x D11,4fot > 1 compound steam engine, unknown maker. > > I can't find the ship mentioned among ships built by Tod & McGregor. > > Anybody who can help with information regarding RIPAL? > > Thanks in advance for any possible help. > > Best regards > Terje Nilsen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Thanks to Paul and Pete for your replies to my previous post The two family members I am researching are: John SANSBURY Master Mariner born August 1811, Rushen, Isle of Man, died 5 Jan 1867 swept overboard in a storm off Guernsey, English Channel. Married Ann SHIMMIN 29 April 1842 Kirk Rushen Isle of Man Two of his known ships are the Herald and the Crest (he was Master of the Crest when he died) - I have just found details of those on CLIP - thanks Pete. We believe he worked the coastal trade, (I have details of his 1845 voyages) and know he went to the Baltic as he was presented with a punch bowl by a Danish shipping agent in 1851 (the Sansbury Elsinor Bowl is in the Manx Museum) John TEARE Ships Engineer born 8 March 1840 Isle of Man, died Liverpool 24 Feb 1927 Married Jane SANSBURY (the oldest daughter of John SANSBURY) 4 April 1865 Walton on the Hill, Liverpool We have no information on his career at all, though there is anecdotal evidence (from a Great niece) of him visiting the engine room of the Titanic at Southampton before it sailed, so perhaps he worked for White Star line? and I have a photo of him in New Orleans He doesn't appear in any Census that I have found. We have full information on both men's families, but virtually nothing on their careers, so if anyone can help with information or suggestions as to the best places to do research, (my daughter is in England for the next 5 weeks) it would be much appreciated . Thanks Mike Mike Constantine Timaru New Zealand

----- Original Message ----- From: <dneilson@nexicom.net> To: <MARINERS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: [MAR] Crew lists for the James Paterson circa 1835 to 1840 > Evening all, > > A friend is looking to see if he can find information on the > following > person: > > "William McDonald born in Scotland about 1806 and went to > Australia as > a "Mate" about the end of the 1830's. His future wife Mary > Casey born > about 1820 in Tipperary Ireland was a passenger on the ship he > was > crewing. Family legends has it that the ship was the James > Paterson" > > Does anyone have any ideas where to start looking Hi Dave A ship called " James PATTISON" made a few voyages here in the 1830's On its 1830 &1837 journeys it carried convicts. It also came here in 1835, 1836, 1838 & 1840 with passengers & cargo Surviving crew lists date from the mid 1850s for NSW. You might find some earlier refs in http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper But that would be pot luck ! Were a few Mary CASEYs who came here around that time . Were 2 on the 1835 voyage http://www.rushen.com.au/ships.html may/ may not help Also http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online If you go down to shipping you'll find an index of vessels arriving 1837 -1923 A William McDONALD married a Mary CASEY in 1842, Scots Church ( C of E ) Sydney I think they had some 4 or 5 children born in the Goulburn/ Yass area some way SW from Sydney ?? Would they be the couple your looking for info on ? bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast Australia

Hi Lorraine, Yes I had the same problem but i contacted the web master and he told me that he has changed his server and is currently dowloading all of the pictures to the new server,he said he has completed to F but it is an ongoing thing and should be ok in a few days, Thank you for replying to my query. Kindest regards, Joe McMillan, South Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Howard" <lorrainehoward@eircom.net> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: [MAR] Photoship site > Hi. I can get into the site and view ships up to F and then it says error > in connection. So part of the site is working - I started at the begining > and looked until it stopped - but what is there looks good! The rest was > downloading (it says it is a huge file that will take a while to do) and > then came up that the file was damaged. But the begining is worth a look. > Good luck > Lorraine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:41:55 -0400, dneilson@nexicom.net wrote: > >-Captain David Scott, HMS Prince Frederick, b. circa 1717 Perth, d. >1758 East Indies Dave You might like to try the several volumes of Biographia Navalis by John Charnock, published at about the end of the 18th Century, some available in Google Books and probably very good reference libraries. I must admit that I have yet to work out how they are arranged, but since they are not for my period of interest I have tried very hard. Paul 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

The ship James Pattinson of London 513 tons owner T Ward & co, made two voyages to NSW with convicts; Sailed Dublin 2/10/1829 arrived NSW 20/01/1830 Joseph Grote master 200 convicts, all male,1 death on passage. Sailed Sheerness 16/07/1837 Arrived NSW 25/10/1837 Jas Cromarty master, 270 convicts, all male, no deaths. Such ships sometimes carried free settlers or government employees and their families. NSW newspapers seem the most likely source for passenger details via www.nla.gov.au/ndp Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <dneilson@nexicom.net> To: <MARINERS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 2:24 AM Subject: [MAR] Crew lists for the James Paterson circa 1835 to 1840 > Evening all, > > A friend is looking to see if he can find information on the following > person: > > "William McDonald born in Scotland about 1806 and went to Australia as > a "Mate" about the end of the 1830's. His future wife Mary Casey born > about 1820 in Tipperary Ireland was a passenger on the ship he was > crewing. Family legends has it that the ship was the James Paterson" > > Does anyone have any ideas where to start looking > > Thanks in advance > > Dave Neilson > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all! I am for the time being, searching the history of the Norwegian RIPAL x. VICENTA kj.signal JSBT Built 1861 ved Tod & McGregor, Glasgow. Delivered August 1861 429grt L169,1fot x B25,1fot x D11,4fot 1 compound steam engine, unknown maker. I can't find the ship mentioned among ships built by Tod & McGregor. Anybody who can help with information regarding RIPAL? Thanks in advance for any possible help. Best regards Terje Nilsen