HMS GAZELLE was a minesweeper of the "Catherine" Class. She survived the war. Peter Beeston -----Original Message----- From: Joe Bissett Sent: Monday, 19 September 2011 3:50 PM To: mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: [MAR] HMS Gazelle, 1944 I am trying to find additional information on a potential ship loss during WWII. Although my Eric Bisset, born to James Bisset and Fanny Atherton in Toxteth Park, Liverpool in 3Q1885 would have been age 59, this "could" be him serving in the Royal Navy during WWII, perhaps as a high ranking officer. It does not appear that the marriage actually took place, as it is not listed in Free BMD. However, the Lancashire OPC records list the following: Banns: Christ Church, Kensington, Lancashire, England Eric Bisset - B of H. M. S. Gazelle Constance Mary Elizabeth Ward - S of This Parish Banns Read: 8 Oct 1944, 2nd: 15 Oct 1944, 3rd: 22 Oct 1944 Notes: [Line drawn through entry] <<========================================= Register: Banns 1943 - 1954, Page 29, Entry 58 Source: LDS Film 1545852 I suspect that Eric's ship HMS Gazelle might have been lost in action, with Eric as a casualty. Can anyone provide any additional information? Regards, Joe
Thomas Walters does not appear on any censuses. I cannot be certain of where and when he was born although I suspect it was about 1826 in Carmarthen and I believe his family moved soon afterwards to Swansea. I have been unable to find a death certificate. Known facts: 17.1.1854 Chief Officer of Appleton; 3.9.1860 Chief Officer of Frederica; 15.7.78 on daughter's marriage certificate is listed as Master Mariner (deceased); 1892 on wife's death certificate, she is listed as "wife of (deceased) Mariner (Mate) Merchant Service". The website Swansea Mariners lists a Thomas Walters with a Mates Certificate Number 69091 who had been a member of the crews of Jessie Stowe, Theta, Anna, America, Dinorah, Native Pearl and Isabella. There are two newspaper articles in the Cambrian Journal which refer to: Thomas Walters, mate, on Theta (assaulted by the Captain) and another on the loss of the Barque Guayacan (Thomas Walters gave evidence). Furthermore the Swansea Mariners and Welsh Mariners websites list a Thomas Walters falling overboard from the Isabella on Christmas Day 1874. There are a number of Thomas Walters and I am anxious to make sure that I have the correct information for my ancestor. Can anyone help please?
Nivard Hi Thanks for your e,mail regarding Matilda her maiden name was Matilda Samson Pender she married Thomas Edward Flannelly in 1874 in Liverpool they are on the 1881 census and the 1891 census on the 1901 census she is living with John Samson He,s real name is Jacob Belesco the four girls Leah, Rosey Amy were Belasco,s Matilda lived with Jacob untill her death in 1924 they never married she died with the name Flannelly, in Oldham 1924. Once again thanks Regards George -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: mariners <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:59 Subject: Re: [MAR] Help and advice >> Thomas Edward FLANNELLY b1847 Hi George I have taken the liberty of giving your post a more usable subject line "Help nd advice" does not ttract the potential reader very much :-) Now it appears that there is a very slim window for your man to disappear in He is with his wife in 1891 with family Going to the 1901 Matilda is now "married" to a John SAMPSON curious that she marries as Matilda Sampson PENDER and is later with a SAMPSON) It appears from the census that their first child was born 1892 (Leah SAMPSON) lthough I can only ind a registration of that name in 1895 Have you checked those children to see who the parents are on the certs? If the census is a true reflection it means Thomas Edward FLANNELLY disappeared fter the 1891 ensus and before Leah was born in 1892 Looking at the deaths registered, have you checked this one out ? Name: Thomas Flannery stimated Birth Year: abt 1851 ate of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1891 ge at Death: 40 egistration district: Liverpool nferred County: Lancashire olume: 8b age: 79 Although the age is a little out , ages at death registration are notoriously naccurate It may be a spelling mistake at the local office or in the quarterly returns to he GRO Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS he does not appear in the deaths at sea > Hello All Help and advice My G Grandfather dissapeared after 1891 in the 1870s e was a mariner He married in 1874, I found him on the 1881 census Boyd street Everton name homas Edward Flannelly occupation Iron Planer, I found him again on the 1891 census Everton ccupation Machine planer maint. I was wondering did He go back into the merchant service possibly in he engine room and was the ship lost and He died at sea. I have checked a ll the civil records or He,s death but no success, Would it be possible to find out if He returned to the merchant ervice and if He was lost at sea.if so where could I search. Thanks Regards George ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message
Thank you Peter On 9/19/2011 2:33 AM, Peter Beeston wrote: > HMS GAZELLE was a minesweeper of the "Catherine" Class. She survived the > war.
I am trying to find additional information on a potential ship loss during WWII. Although my Eric Bisset, born to James Bisset and Fanny Atherton in Toxteth Park, Liverpool in 3Q1885 would have been age 59, this "could" be him serving in the Royal Navy during WWII, perhaps as a high ranking officer. It does not appear that the marriage actually took place, as it is not listed in Free BMD. However, the Lancashire OPC records list the following: Banns: Christ Church, Kensington, Lancashire, England Eric Bisset - B of H. M. S. Gazelle Constance Mary Elizabeth Ward - S of This Parish Banns Read: 8 Oct 1944, 2nd: 15 Oct 1944, 3rd: 22 Oct 1944 Notes: [Line drawn through entry] <<========================================= Register: Banns 1943 - 1954, Page 29, Entry 58 Source: LDS Film 1545852 I suspect that Eric's ship HMS Gazelle might have been lost in action, with Eric as a casualty. Can anyone provide any additional information? Regards, Joe
Hi Betty, Those of us of a certain age will remember the novel, The Cruel Sea, mentioned in your reference, and the 1953 film thereof, starring Jack Hawkins. The film is available from the usual well-known source, and is well worth seeing, even if the 'special effects' will induce laughter or worse from the younger generation. Graham ( husband of) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ms Betty Fredericks" <bbffrrpp@yahoo.com> To: <Mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: [MAR] Flower-Class Corvette, Hawksbury Hello, I don't remember seeing the term, Flower-class Corvette, before, so I just looked on-line, and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_class_corvette Many ships are mentioned on that page. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi George I have taken the liberty of giving your post a more usable subject line "Help and advice" does not attract the potential reader very much :-) Now it appears that there is a very slim window for your man to disappear in He is with his wife in 1891 with family Going to the 1901 Matilda is now "married" to a John SAMPSON (curious that she marries as Matilda Sampson PENDER and is later with a SAMPSON) It appears from the census that their first child was born 1892 (Leah SAMPSON) although I can only find a registration of that name in 1895 Have you checked those children to see who the parents are on the certs? If the census is a true reflection it means Thomas Edward FLANNELLY disappeared after the 1891 census and before Leah was born in 1892 Looking at the deaths registered, have you checked this one out ? Name: Thomas Flannery Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1891 Age at Death: 40 Registration district: Liverpool Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 79 Although the age is a little out , ages at death registration are notoriously inaccurate It may be a spelling mistake at the local office or in the quarterly returns to the GRO Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS he does not appear in the deaths at sea > > Hello All > Help and advice My G Grandfather dissapeared after 1891 in the 1870s He was a mariner He > married in 1874, I found him on the 1881 census Boyd street Everton name Thomas Edward Flannelly > occupation Iron Planer, I found him again on the 1891 census Everton occupation Machine planer > maint. I was wondering did He go back into the merchant service possibly in the engine room and > was the ship lost and He died at sea. I have checked a ll the civil records for He,s death but no > success, Would it be possible to find out if He returned to the merchant service > and if He was lost at sea.if so where could I search. Thanks Regards George
Hi Betty, Just an aside here. In the early years of WW11 my uncle served in the Canadian navy on the flower class corvette HMCS Trillium. Later my brother served on the HMCS Orillia (named after a small town in Ontario Canada). The later corvettes that were used by the Canadian navy were named after towns and cities across the country in order to (as I once read) boost the country's morale and support for our contribution to the war effort. Some of the tales my bro. and uncle told about the conditions on the (however beloved) corvettes because of their violent rolling and pitching nature were rather harrowing but thankfully they both loved the sea, adapted well and, unlike some, at the end of it all were fortunate enough to make it through the war intact. Hazel... Ontario Canada ________________________________ From: Irene Read <irene.read4@btopenworld.com> To: Ms Betty Fredericks <bbffrrpp@yahoo.com>; mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:35:19 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Flower-Class Corvette, Hawksbury Hi Betty, Those of us of a certain age will remember the novel, The Cruel Sea, mentioned in your reference, and the 1953 film thereof, starring Jack Hawkins. The film is available from the usual well-known source, and is well worth seeing, even if the 'special effects' will induce laughter or worse from the younger generation. Graham ( husband of) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ms Betty Fredericks" <bbffrrpp@yahoo.com> To: <Mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: [MAR] Flower-Class Corvette, Hawksbury Hello, I don't remember seeing the term, Flower-class Corvette, before, so I just looked on-line, and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_class_corvette Many ships are mentioned on that page. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
forwarded from the Essex (England) list; >From The Essex Standard, West Suffolk Gazette, and Eastern Counties' Advertiser ( Cholchester, England ), Saturday, July 11, 1891; pg. 7; Issue 3161. A HARWICH MAN DROWNED. THE BODY DISCOVERED AFTER SEVEN MONTH'S IMMERSION. On Friday evening, July 3, the dead body of a young man was found at Shotley, and from age , height, and general description it was recognised as that of the young man who has been missing from Parkeston from December last, named Ernest NEWELL , seaman on the s.s. Norwich, son of Benjamin NEWELL , engine driver, living at Dovercourt. The body was found by some watermen, and intelligence at once given to the Police, and the father telegraphed for. The father subsequently identified the body. INQUEST. An inquest was held on Monday morning at the house of Mr. Ezra DALE , Bristol Arms Inn, Shotley Gate, by Mr. A. F. VULLIAMY , Coroner for the Sandford Hundreds of East Suffolk, on the body of Ernest Benjamin NEWELL , aged 19, which was picked up on Friday evening, July 3, on the Saltings on the edge of the Orwell at Shotley Spit. James Benjamin NEWELL , engine-driver on the G.E.R., living at Parkeston, identified the body as that of his eldest son, who was an ordinary seaman on s.s. Norwich. His age was 19. The last witness saw of him alive was on the evening of December 13, 1890, on Parkeston platform. Deceased came up to witness's engine as it came into Parkeston Station. He was at the time in good spirits, and said he was going on watch that night, and that he would see witness again in the morning. - A juryman asked the witness if he had any reason for supposing that his son intended to destroy himself ? - The Coroner said THE QUESTION WAS NOT NECESSARY, and it was not pressed. George GORDON , watchman on board the G.E.R. s.s. Princess of Wales at Parkeston Quay, said he saw young NEWELL on Dec. 13, when he came on board the Princess, about 9.15 p.m. He stayed about an hour on board and was then in good spirits. When he left he said he was going to board the Norwich. He went in a boat lying alongside, which was always left for the watchman, a G.E.R. boat about 18 feet long. Deceased came in the Pier boat from the Parkeston Quay to the steamer. He left alone. The head of the Norwich was made fast to the same buoy as the head of the Princess, so that it was only a few yards off, not a minute from one gangway to another. He saw deceased off and spoke to him when he got in the boat, and told him to be sure and not stand on the thwarts, as IT WAS A FROSTY NIGHT, there was a frosty air, and hazy with it, and it was very slippery and dark, but he could see the other steamer. Deceased wished witness " Good night," and said he would call for him in the morning. The witness then added that with ordinary care, there being no wind and quite smooth, he could have gone to the other vessel quite easily. Standing on the thwarts would be risky but he was not doing that when witness saw him. What he did after that witness could not say. He said that his brother was going on board, but there was no one else there. He ( witness ) could not say whether he slipped getting on board. There was a ladder over the side of the steam for him to go up. - By the FOREMAN. I did not see him get on board the Norwich. Henry Benjamin HOLDEN , mariner, of Harwich, said that at sunrise on December 14 he FOUND A BOAT between Walton-on-Naze and Harwich. It was floating. They picked her up, and found in her a serge jacket and a purse. Inspector FULCHER met them as they landed, and they gave him the coat and purse as they were picked up. ( The coat and purse were here produced. The father stated that the coat and purse were kept at the Police Station two months. ) The purse was on the thwart of the boat by the side of the jacket. James TRIVETT , Coast Brigade R. A., stationed at Shotley Point Battery, said he found the body of deceased on Friday, July 3, in the Saltings, about 6.30 p.m. He was walking with a comrade, and when opposite Shotley Spit Buoy he saw something close to the shore. He went to see what it was, and found that it was a body very much decomposed, lying with the back uppermost and THE FEET EMBEDDED IN THE MUD. The body was dry. They then went straight to Mr. DALE's, of the Bristol Arms, which was about half a mile away, and reported it. Mr. DALE helped to bring the body on a shutter to where the Jury had seen it. When the body was touched THE HEAD FELL OFF. The Coroner then asked the father if his son had on an overcoat on that night, and the father replied that his son had a short jacket on over his jersey, and that somewhat altered the description of him that he first gave. His supper was found in the jacket pocket just as he took it from home. Mr. GORDON here stated that it was flood tide two hours after deceased left the Princess. Pc Marshall Edward BROOKE , stationed at Chelmondiston, for the Shotley district, deposed to searching the body. He found a silver watch, a key, and one or two other little things, the watch had stopped at ten minutes to three. He took the watch to Parkeston, and the father identified it. Deceased had on top-boots, serge trousers, and a blue guernsey, a black waistcoat, under jersey, and a shirt. The CORONER then said that the Jury had heard the evidence, and it was clear that deceased had met his death by drowning, but whether by accident or not it was for them to decide. The watch must have stopped very soon after getting into the water, and it was not improbable that deceased got adrift, which would account for the time by the watch. Most likely it was then that he took off his coat and tried to get to the ship, and in some way fell over. There was nothing to suggest that the affair was other than purely accidental. The Jury unanimously returned a verdict that deceased was ACCIDENTALLY DROWNED. The Foreman of the Jury was Mr. Thomas HARRINGTON , a hale, hearty old man of 82 years. The funeral of the deceased took place on Monday afternoon, at Dovercourt Cemetery.
Hello All Help and advice My G Grandfather dissapeared after 1891 in the 1870s He was a mariner He married in 1874, I found him on the 1881 census Boyd street Everton name Thomas Edward Flannelly occupation Iron Planer, I found him again on the 1891 census Everton occupation Machine planer maint. I was wondering did He go back into the merchant service possibly in the engine room and was the ship lost and He died at sea. I have checked a ll the civil records for He,s death but no success, Would it be possible to find out if He returned to the merchant service and if He was lost at sea.if so where could I search. Thanks Regards George
I have an Edward Corkhill A.B. 1853 Isle of Man onboard Abermaed of Swansea James Edward Corkhill 2nd Mate Cert-28625 1854 Isle of Man onboard One of Swansea and J.T. Quayle Deck hand /Bosun 1886 Ramsey I.O.M. onboard Argon and 3 entries for John Quayle Mate Cert-Nil 1843 Ramsey I.O.M. on board Britannia John Quayle Mate Cert-Nil 1843 Ramsey I.O.M. Britannia John Quayle Mate Cert-Nil 1843 Ramsey I.O.M. Britannia see my website www.swanseamariners.org.uk
Just to chip in, I am looking for any records of Thomas Connor, sailor, born in Whitehaven 1876. Believe he plied his trade between Uk and Drogheda, he married an Irish lass and they were living in Liverpool in 1902, with family, some born Ireland, some UK. just a long shot, Barry
Thanks John I wonder why was the Diesel Engine un-popular ? Mick ----- Original Message ----- From: <jduerkop@cogeco.ca> To: "Mariners List" <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [MAR] British Vessel Eavestone >I do not know anything about EAVESTONE, but there were four diesel or > diesel-electric "canallers" (Great Lakes vessels built to St. Lawrence > Canal > dimensions - necessary to make the transit from the Atlantic to the lakes) > built in Britain in 1911-13. TOILER was the first, 1,659 gross tons built > by Swan Hunter and Wigham Richardson in 1911. She was followed by CALGARY > which was similar except that she had a funnel and after superstructure > (both of which were absent in TOILER) and she was geared (masts and booms) > whereas TOILER was not. The third was FORDONIAN built by the Clyde > Shipbuilding Co. in 1912. The fourth was TYNEMOUNT of 1913. She was > actually diesel-electric. 1,644 tons gross. All four were re-engined > with > triple expansion within a relatively short time. They were seagoing, not > only demonstrated that they had to cross the Atlantic to get to the lakes > but also because some of them and many other canallers worked in the > Atlantic and in European waters during both world wars. John in chilly > Kingston Ontario > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 5:08 PM > To: "Mariners List" <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [MAR] British Vessel Eavestone > >> I have an inquiry to my website re the British Vessel Eavestone. >> Was this the first large British owned sea-going vessel equipped with a >> Diesel engine, produced under joint license of Carels Freres and Diesel >> Engine Company. ? >> >> Mick O Rourke >> >> www.irishshipwrecks.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>From memory, take TOILER (later named MAPLEHEATH) as an example. She only managed about 6 knots loaded on her first voyage from the UK to Spain and back and also on her transatlantic "delivery voyage". The reason was that her diesels were not geared and drove the propellers too fast. Also, diesels required an entirely different training for engine room personnel and that training was not yet widely available. On one occasion she broke down and could not be fixed at Montreal with the limited knowledge that they had so she was towed back to Kingston where some American engineers quickly fixed whatever the problem was. She lasted into the 1980s as a steamer and later salvage barge. John -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 4:48 AM To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MAR] British Vessel Eavestone > Thanks John > > I wonder why was the Diesel Engine un-popular ? > > > Mick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jduerkop@cogeco.ca> > To: "Mariners List" <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:05 AM > Subject: Re: [MAR] British Vessel Eavestone > > >>I do not know anything about EAVESTONE, but there were four diesel or >> diesel-electric "canallers" (Great Lakes vessels built to St. Lawrence >> Canal >> dimensions - necessary to make the transit from the Atlantic to the >> lakes) >> built in Britain in 1911-13. TOILER was the first, 1,659 gross tons >> built >> by Swan Hunter and Wigham Richardson in 1911. She was followed by >> CALGARY >> which was similar except that she had a funnel and after superstructure >> (both of which were absent in TOILER) and she was geared (masts and >> booms) >> whereas TOILER was not. The third was FORDONIAN built by the Clyde >> Shipbuilding Co. in 1912. The fourth was TYNEMOUNT of 1913. She was >> actually diesel-electric. 1,644 tons gross. All four were re-engined >> with >> triple expansion within a relatively short time. They were seagoing, >> not >> only demonstrated that they had to cross the Atlantic to get to the lakes >> but also because some of them and many other canallers worked in the >> Atlantic and in European waters during both world wars. John in chilly >> Kingston Ontario >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 5:08 PM >> To: "Mariners List" <mariners@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [MAR] British Vessel Eavestone >> >>> I have an inquiry to my website re the British Vessel Eavestone. >>> Was this the first large British owned sea-going vessel equipped with a >>> Diesel engine, produced under joint license of Carels Freres and Diesel >>> Engine Company. ? >>> >>> Mick O Rourke >>> >>> www.irishshipwrecks.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Yves.......I do have a picture of the HMCS Hawkesbury....if that will help....but I do not have a picture after she was converted to "Campuchea" On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:15 PM, yves bertrand <Yves-Guy.Bertrand@wanadoo.fr > wrote: > Bonjour Bud, Bonjour à Tou(te)s > > I was asking to the list several days ago if anybody could help me to find > a > photo of CAMPUCHEA ex Canadian Corvette HMCS HAWKESBURY converted in Sorel > for merchant service after the WWII but until now, no answer! > > Pehaps could you help me? > > Amitiés > > Yves from France > > -----Message d'origine----- > From: Bud Shortridge > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:04 PM > To: MARINERS [TO POST] > Subject: [MAR] Pictures of SS Weyerhauser > > > Greetings to the List, > A few weeks ago a senior gentleman e-mailed a request to me....asking for > my > help in location of a ship picture. He builds very, very impressive ship > models ...[Which the gentleman sent me a picture of "one" that he has > presently completed...if anyone wishes it sent to them....just let me know > and I'll be glad to send you the pic......I think you'll be most impressed > after you view this....it is just awesome!!!]..... > > > He now wishes to build a model of the "SS Weyerhauser." His son works for > the Weyerhauser Company so he would like to build this ship model for him. > What he needs a picture of is the "Deck Lay out and how the lumber is > stacked" The gentleman stated that he would be able to use deck layout > pictures of other ships ....such as : SS John Weyerhauser; SS Horace > Irvine; > SS George Long; and SS V.H. Peabody. > > > I'd really like to help this 80+ yr. old gentleman out if at all > possible....and if anyone can offer help I'd greatly appreciate it....and > I'm sure he would as well. > I have his name and e-mail address that I'd be glad to furnish if you wish > to furnish data/pictures directly to him. I'm sure that would not be a > problem. > > > Thanks in advance for any and all help.. > Again if anyone wishes to "view" this impressive picture of the model ship > he sent me...just e-mail me and I'll gladly attach to my reply back to you. > > > Thanks again > > > Bud > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Enjoy!! Bud & R.J We Wish You Well ARTICLES ON MY "BLOG" <http://www.navalmerchantshiparticles.blogspot.com/> MERCHANT SHIP HISTORY SITE <http://home.comcast.net/~cshortridge/site/> SITE OF LOST CREWS<http://home.comcast.net/~cshortridge/site/?/page/LIBERTY__%26amp%3B_MERCHANT_SHIP_CREWS_LOST_/>
Hello, I don't remember seeing the term, Flower-class Corvette, before, so I just looked on-line, and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_class_corvette Many ships are mentioned on that page. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)
Hi Adi, Thank you for posting this information. I just looked at one of the lists you offered, and saw the 2 surnames of my great-great-grandparents: Evan CORKILL, born IOM, and Elizabeth QUAYLE, born Whitehaven. Evan was a mariner, and his older brother, John CORKILL, was born 1825 and was also a mariner. Both brothers married women from Whitehaven. I know the father was also John CORKILL, and I know nothing about him. So, I don't know if he was also a mariner. I have the names of the parents of Elizabeth, but don't have it memorized. I can look it up. She came from a large family, so the Edward QUAYLE on the list could have been a relative. (CORKILL and CORKHILL are interchangeable names) http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/whitehaven_shipping_f.html John CORKILL, the son, would have been too young to be an owner or master of a ship in 1840. So, it would have to be his father. And, IF the same person, that could be why his 2 sons married in Whitehaven and had their first child there. They soon moved to Liverpool and remained there. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (on Lists for 10 yrs.; now an Admin for 9 Lists, including CORKILL )
Bonjour Bud, Bonjour à Tou(te)s I was asking to the list several days ago if anybody could help me to find a photo of CAMPUCHEA ex Canadian Corvette HMCS HAWKESBURY converted in Sorel for merchant service after the WWII but until now, no answer! Pehaps could you help me? Amitiés Yves from France -----Message d'origine----- From: Bud Shortridge Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:04 PM To: MARINERS [TO POST] Subject: [MAR] Pictures of SS Weyerhauser Greetings to the List, A few weeks ago a senior gentleman e-mailed a request to me....asking for my help in location of a ship picture. He builds very, very impressive ship models ...[Which the gentleman sent me a picture of "one" that he has presently completed...if anyone wishes it sent to them....just let me know and I'll be glad to send you the pic......I think you'll be most impressed after you view this....it is just awesome!!!]..... He now wishes to build a model of the "SS Weyerhauser." His son works for the Weyerhauser Company so he would like to build this ship model for him. What he needs a picture of is the "Deck Lay out and how the lumber is stacked" The gentleman stated that he would be able to use deck layout pictures of other ships ....such as : SS John Weyerhauser; SS Horace Irvine; SS George Long; and SS V.H. Peabody. I'd really like to help this 80+ yr. old gentleman out if at all possible....and if anyone can offer help I'd greatly appreciate it....and I'm sure he would as well. I have his name and e-mail address that I'd be glad to furnish if you wish to furnish data/pictures directly to him. I'm sure that would not be a problem. Thanks in advance for any and all help.. Again if anyone wishes to "view" this impressive picture of the model ship he sent me...just e-mail me and I'll gladly attach to my reply back to you. Thanks again Bud ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Mick, Thank`s for that.I am sorry but i did not receive Ted`s post at all ,can you re-send it please. Cheers, Joe McMillan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Holman Sutcliffe > Sorry Joe > I missed named the vessel , Teds post gave the corect name LADY ALICE > KENLIS > . > > Mick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe McMillan" <joemac@internode.on.net> > To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: [MAR] Holman Sutcliffe > > >> Hi Mick, >> Thank`s for that,it gives me a starting point. >> When i go to the city i will look up the LADY ALICE KENLY in Lloyds at >> the >> state library. >> Cheers, >> Joe. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mick" <mick@irishshipwrecks.com> >> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [MAR] Holman Sutcliffe >> >> >>> Hi Joe >>> >>> Clip lists one built as Lady Alice Kenly Registered in Belfast 1868 >>> Renamed >>> and Reg,d in Boston 1908. >>> >>> Mick O Rourke >>> >>> >>> Mariners Mailing list >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have just received the following information from family wills and hope the list can help me to discover more about these vessels and any pertinent information Will proved 1806 of Jonathan Harrison joiner of Parton, 1 32nd share of Ship "Success" to my son William Harrison Will proved 1833 Jonathan Harrison to my daughter Sarah Bowman, 1 32nd share of each of the following vessels "Samuel" "Endeavour" "Betsy" also 1 16th share of the Brig "Brothers" all of the Port of Whitehaven Thank you Edna Palmer