Hi David, Thank`s for your interest in my query regarding WHEATBLADE.I already have a photo of her in my collection,i was looking for info on her history and ultimate fate which Ted has so kindly supplied. Kindest regards, Joe McMillan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Asprey" <dasprey@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Wheatblade > > On 2 Oct 2011 Joe McMillan wrote > Can anyone provide information on the small coaster WHEATBLADE The only > info > i have is that it was built in 1923 by Hansen Shipbuilder of Bideford and > was owned by Spillers Ltd.1933 renamed Denwick Head and 1946 renamed > Morefield.Eventually broken up at Port Glasgow in 1955 Can anyone tell me > who her subsequent owners were. Any info would be gratefully accepted. > Thank > you in advance. >>>>>>>>>> > > There is a photograph of WHEATBLADE (from World Ship Society photolibrary) > in "Ships in Focus Record 14" in the first of two articles on the Hansen > shipyard. > > David > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Yves,   Many pictures (though mostly postwar) in book:   A GREAT FLEET OF SHIPS The Canadian Forts & Parks author - S. C. Heal published 1999 by Vanwell Publishing Limited, St. Catherines, Ontario, CANADA hardcover, 309 pages, lots of bl/wh photos ISBN: 1-55125-023-3   I have access to the book but no way of scanning images. Perhaps [worldcat.org] can locate a copy in a library accessible to you.   Regards, Adi --- On Tue, 10/4/11, yves bertrand <Yves-Guy.Bertrand@wanadoo.fr> wrote: Hello dear Friends Please, another enquiry: I am looking for photos of Parks, mainly during the war, who could help me? Cheers Yves

Hello Ian, Borealis appears to have been built in 1864 and owned in London by Thomas Bilbe & Co. of Nelson Dock, Rotherhithe, her Official Number 50063.  Possibly her maiden voyage was recorded in the newspapers as leaving London for Hong Kong on the 11th September 1864.  She was a "ship", a square-rigger with three masts, of composite construction with planked iron frames.  Her first listing in Lloyd's Register only starts in 1874/75, but an early master was mentioned in newspapers, a Captain Henderson (appearing 1865-1869), later followed by Captain R. B. Beard (c.1876-1884).  Borealis had changed hands in about 1875/76, being sold to James Anderson & Co., and it was apparently at this point that Captain Beard first took command.  Her home port continued as London, but by 1880 this was listed as now being Aberdeen.  She appears to have changed hands yet again by early 1885, when her home port was given as "Austria" in Lloyd's Register for 1885/86.  Thereafter she disappears from view, probably having changed her name.  Some surviving documentation can be found on the CLIP website at http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum.php. Regards, PK ________________________________ From: kik <laamia3@netvigator.com> To: mariners@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011, 11:07 Subject: [MAR] 'Borealis' Any information please on the 'Borealis'? Type of ship? 920 tons. Abt. 1860-1880. Out of London. Thanks. Ian in Hong Kong. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yves As far as I am aware Canadian ships flew the Canadian Red Ensign which was the same as the national flag, essentially a Red Ensign with the arms of Canada in the fly. British ships wore the plain Red Ensign. Both Canadian and British warships flew the White Ensign. Towards the end of the war Canadian warships attached a green maple leaf to the funnel to identify their 'Canadianess'. With the adoption of the new Canadian flag in 1965 the use of the White Ensign ceased. Sometime after WWII but before the new Canadian flag the green maple leaf was replaced by the red on the funnel was replaced by the red. Certainly the red maple leaf was in evidence on photos of ships in the 1950's and included Canadian Coastguard cutters. A Blue Ensign defaced by the arms of Canada was used as a jack by Canadian warships and other Govt vessels until 1965. Hope this helps. Andy Adams Hope this helps In a message dated 04/10/2011 16:56:37 GMT Daylight Time, Yves-Guy.Bertrand@wanadoo.fr writes: Hello dear Friends Have you received my email because until now I don’t received any answer. Please, another enquiry: I am looking for photos of Parks, mainly during the war, who could help me? Cheers Yves From: yves bertrand Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 2:35 PM To: Mariners@rootsweb.com Subject: Flags on Parks an also Canadian Ships Bonjour à Tou(te)s May I ask you, the Flags during the WW2 for the Canadian warships and merchant ships was the same for United Kingdom or specific for Canada? White – Blue – Red Ensign? For example for the Parks: - Ship for Canadian Government (Park SS Co. Ltd, mgrs) like MONTMORENCY PARK. - Ship for United Kingdom Ministry of War Transport (MOWT) William Dickinson & Co.Ltd, managers like CAMP DEBERT (launched as HECTOR PARK). Cheers Yves from France Please be indulgent with my bad english, thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Adi... Where did you find a copy of Corvette K-225? Thanks. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Mme_N_Carmichael <mme_n_carmichael@yahoo.ca> Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 9:26 am Subject: Re: [MAR] Corvettes To: Bruce&Marion Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com>, mariners@rootsweb.com > Hello Bruce, > > You wrote: > > " the destruction of the Canadian Navy, at the hands not of the > Kriegsmarine but of spiteful politicians and bureaucrats who > abolished even the word 'Navy'." > > It's good to finally have something nice to say about Stephen H. > We're getting the Royal Canadian Navy back again. > > Regards, > Adi > (who ((thanks to recent posts on this list))has just bought a > copy of the movie "Corvette K-225" to give as a Christmas present.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Bruce,   You wrote: " the destruction of the Canadian Navy, at the hands not of the Kriegsmarine but of spiteful politicians and bureaucrats who abolished even the word 'Navy'."   It's good to finally have something nice to say about Stephen H. We're getting the Royal Canadian Navy back again.   Regards, Adi (who ((thanks to recent posts on this list))has just bought a copy of the movie "Corvette K-225" to give as a Christmas present.)

May I heartily recommend two factual and highly entertaining books about corvettes, both by James B Lamb, both published by Totem Books, Toronto. The first, 'The Corvette Navy', is lost, stolen, or strayed, so I can give no details.  I can only attest to its excellence from memory. The second, 'On the Triangle  Run', was published in 1986 as ISBN 0-00-217909-1.  At the end of a fascinating book is a great description of the destruction of the Canadian Navy, at the hands not of the Kriegsmarine but of spiteful politicians and bureaucrats who abolished even the word 'Navy'. Bruce Dodd, Ottawa

from another list I am on. no relation, just passing this forward in hopes of helping someone else. please contact Anthony, and not me. Cornelia Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:13:39 +0200 From: "Anthony Leboucq" Subject: [SCOTT] Search for Capt William Scott To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi I am searching the trace of Capt William Scott. He was supposedly from England and was the captain of the ship "Hawthorn" around the years 1871/1881. I believed that he immigrated to Australia or NZ. Thanks Anthony

How many Ian's in Hong Kong, maybe we might reestablish contact? Peter ex NW Ontario ex ARETHUSA etc. Peter On 2011-10-04, at 4:07 AM, "kik" <laamia3@netvigator.com> wrote: > Any information please on the 'Borealis'? Type of ship? > > 920 tons. > > Abt. 1860-1880. Out of London. > > Thanks. > > Ian in Hong Kong. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I write from Australia seeking some advice in locating records relavent to my maternal great grandfather. We have records of my great grandfather in relation to his marriage to my great grandmother and the birth of two children, all in London's East End. Alexander Hancock(sometimes Hencock) is identified as a mariner and marked his marriage certificate with a cross. We have crew lists of a man of this name as a steward, and then cook, on ships sailing between London and Australia in the 1870's and 1880's and a record of a death at sea in 1885 on the iron clipper Thessalus. From newspaper records on Trove, the ship was between Newcastle, Australia and San Francisco with a load of coal. His Country of Origin is West Indies or, in greater detail, the Island of St Bartholomew. Can anyone help with suggestions of records which could show next-of-kin of a seaman at this below decks level, especially one who was not British. (St Barts was initially Swedish and then French during this period.) Given the appearance of his daughter, my grandmother, it is possible that he was either indigenous West Indian or descended from African slaves. My great grandmother and her daughter migrated to Australia in 1888, a somewhat unusual act for a woman alone with an eight year old child. We have no record of a husband or father. She married later in Australia as a widow. In hope of advice Joan Creati

Austrian Lloyd 1842 http://books.google.com/books/about/Giornale_del_Lloyd_Austriaco.html?id=3EtHAAAAcAAJ

Hi Ted, Thank`s for that.I had completely forgotten about that posting,it must have been some time ago. Cheers, Joe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Finch" <mariners-l@efinch90.fsnet.co.uk> To: <mariners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Wheatblade > Hi Joe, > > Here is an old post on the list from John Stevenson > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Mariners/2005-03/1109796755 > - > (addressed to you!!!) > > WHEATBLADE. ON 145730. > Steel screw steamer. > Built September 1923 by Hansen Shipbuilding & Shiprepairing Co Ltd., > Bideford. > Owners : Spillers S.S. Co.Ltd., Broad street , Cardiff. > Port of Reg : Cardiff > > 1933. DENWICK HEAD. A.F.Henry & McGregor Ltd., Leith. Pof Reg Leith. > 1946. MOREFIELD. Lochbroom Trading Co., Ltd., Glasgow. Pof R Glasgow. > 1948. Mac Shipping Co., Ltd., Glasgow. Pof R Glasgow. > 1955. July sold to Smith & Houston, Port Glasgow for breaking up. > > regards > Ted > > > > On 02/10/2011 08:33, Joe McMillan wrote: >> Hi there, >> Can anyone provide information on the small coaster >> WHEATBLADE >> The only info i have is that it was built in 1923 by Hansen Shipbuilder >> of Bideford and was owned by Spillers Ltd.1933 renamed Denwick Head and >> 1946 renamed Morefield.Eventually broken up at Port Glasgow in 1955 >> Can anyone tell me who her subsequent owners were. >> Any info would be gratefully accepted. >> Thank you in advance. >> Joe McMillan, >> South Australia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2 Oct 2011 Joe McMillan wrote Can anyone provide information on the small coaster WHEATBLADE The only info i have is that it was built in 1923 by Hansen Shipbuilder of Bideford and was owned by Spillers Ltd.1933 renamed Denwick Head and 1946 renamed Morefield.Eventually broken up at Port Glasgow in 1955 Can anyone tell me who her subsequent owners were. Any info would be gratefully accepted. Thank you in advance. >>>>>>>>> There is a photograph of WHEATBLADE (from World Ship Society photolibrary) in "Ships in Focus Record 14" in the first of two articles on the Hansen shipyard. David

Hi there, Can anyone provide information on the small coaster WHEATBLADE The only info i have is that it was built in 1923 by Hansen Shipbuilder of Bideford and was owned by Spillers Ltd.1933 renamed Denwick Head and 1946 renamed Morefield.Eventually broken up at Port Glasgow in 1955 Can anyone tell me who her subsequent owners were. Any info would be gratefully accepted. Thank you in advance. Joe McMillan, South Australia

Bonjour à Tou(te)s May I ask you, the Flags during the WW2 for the Canadian warships and merchant ships was the same for United Kingdom or specific for Canada? White – Blue – Red Ensign? For example for the Parks: - Ship for Canadian Government (Park SS Co. Ltd, mgrs) like MONTMORENCY PARK. - Ship for United Kingdom Ministry of War Transport (MOWT) William Dickinson & Co.Ltd, managers like CAMP DEBERT (launched as HECTOR PARK). Cheers Yves from France Please be indulgent with my bad english, thanks

Hi Joe, Here is an old post on the list from John Stevenson http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Mariners/2005-03/1109796755 - (addressed to you!!!) WHEATBLADE. ON 145730. Steel screw steamer. Built September 1923 by Hansen Shipbuilding & Shiprepairing Co Ltd., Bideford. Owners : Spillers S.S. Co.Ltd., Broad street , Cardiff. Port of Reg : Cardiff 1933. DENWICK HEAD. A.F.Henry & McGregor Ltd., Leith. Pof Reg Leith. 1946. MOREFIELD. Lochbroom Trading Co., Ltd., Glasgow. Pof R Glasgow. 1948. Mac Shipping Co., Ltd., Glasgow. Pof R Glasgow. 1955. July sold to Smith & Houston, Port Glasgow for breaking up. regards Ted On 02/10/2011 08:33, Joe McMillan wrote: > Hi there, > Can anyone provide information on the small coaster WHEATBLADE > The only info i have is that it was built in 1923 by Hansen Shipbuilder of Bideford and was owned by Spillers Ltd.1933 renamed Denwick Head and 1946 renamed Morefield.Eventually broken up at Port Glasgow in 1955 > Can anyone tell me who her subsequent owners were. > Any info would be gratefully accepted. > Thank you in advance. > Joe McMillan, > South Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello List I am helping someone research their ancestor, Alfred Frederick HOOD who was born 1837 in Dorset I have found him as an AB Seaman on the LUSITANIA which arrived in Sydney April 1881 I have also found a reference to an Alfred HOOD who was a victim of 'crimping' in 1892 in Sydney. The Trove newspapers have a number of articles about this incident and in one, there is mention that Alfred HOOD was looking for coastal work and was taken onboard the 'TWEED". There was a court case that mentions this Alfred HOOD was an AB, so I am hoping he is the same fellow I am researching He had sons who served in the RN and all 3 settled in Australia. Alfred Frederick HOOD b 1871 Deptford Kent, Arthur Ernest HOOD who served in WW1 ( was tattooed all over his body and died 1920) and Frederick George Kemp HOOD b 1875 , died 1949 Sydney ( buried Botany Cemetery) The newspaper article mentions that seamen would sign on for work at the Maritime Labout Bureau and I am wondering if anyone knows if these records still survive or of there are other records that may have information about Alfred Frederick HOOD If anyone can help shed some light on this fellow, I would be most grateful many thanks Jocelyn

I checked with my spy in Halifax.  She sent me this url.  It seems that the Sackville is given shelter for the winter.  Smart move.  Further details on the following web site. http://www.hmcssackville-cnmt.ns.ca/ Bruce Dodd Ottawa

Thanks to Ted and also to Philip who sent me some information, I'm now comfortable with these unknown terms. I knew they would be available but I had been unable to select the correct search terms. Thanks again. Bev

I've expanded my Rootsweb Lists as I need some help, or advice. Reading Crew Lists from the late 19th Century, I've started hitting a brick wall with a ship that has lots of Chinese and other Asian members of the crew. I'm trying to identify the occupations. Cassab, Tindel, Baudary or Bandary, Topas and Syrang are the ones that defeat me at the moment. I've tried Googling, but haven't hit on the right combination of search words to get any result. If anyone can define any of those words or tell me where I should look, I'd be most grateful. Thanks Bev