Hi Paddy, Once you obtain a crew list, you can do as I did with my ancestor Captain Charles Teft Laurence. The crew list gives the last ship the person worked upon. You then gain that information for his last ship from MHA or CLIP and so on back to the ship he was appreticed upon.The other option is to see whether you can get his application for Captaincy. This lists all his ships from his apprenticeship up to his request for Captaincy. Ancestry has these. I shall try for you. Kind Regards, Paul ________________________________ From: Patricia Byers<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: ‎06/‎07/‎2013 22:39 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MAR] Elizabeth Furner Thanks Paul My initial reference to "Elizabeth Furner" came from googling Harry William Byers 1861 census England I then went back a page by clicking vessels at the top of the page, scrolled down to "Elizabeth Furner" and got the census instructions to the captain on one page and his details about the boat and its whereabouts on census night. He stated that the "coaster schooner" was registered at Goole. I am interested in attempting to discover how long Harry William Byers worked on boats. Paddy On 06/07/2013, at 11:05 PM, Paul Brookes <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Paddy, > > If its Elizabeth Turner reference: > > http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=29199 > > Regards > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks Wendy. I look forward to hearing what is known about her. Paddy On 06/07/2013, at 7:40 PM, Wendy Hall-Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi PaddyI will ask the local library here in Goole if they have any info on her, they do hold a large collectionof info on ships/shipping.Wendy > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 10:06:29 +1000 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [MAR] "Elizabeth Furner" - coastal schooner >> >> I'm still seeking information about the "Elizabeth Furner" recorded in the 1861 census. >> She was a 57 ton Coaster Schooner. >> At the time of the census she was registered at Goole. >> The Captain was William Fratson (35), born in Yorkshire. >> >> Paddy Byers >> Hobart >> Tasmania >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Don, Norfolk seems to have been listed intermittently in Lloyd's Registers, but then in the early 1870s she was shipping bullion back from Melbourne and the Australian gold fields - not exactly easily insurable!  Her then master, Tonkin, is mentioned only the once, in 1870, but that may well have changed by 1875.  In June 1871 she arrived in the UK with £13,000 worth of gold; in November 1872, £18,000; and in October 1873, £24,500.  In total about 5 million pounds today.  On that same last voyage, October 1873, Norfolk also appears to have carried the first experimental consignment of frozen meat from Australia to the UK, using James Harrison's cold-room method, an experiment that sadly failed, and the meat had to be thrown overboard off the Azores. A choice of two possible vessels of sufficient size stands out: 1. Norfolk, Ship-rig, ON 11920, 953 tons, built 1857, owners M. Wigram & Son, London.  and 2. Norfolk, screw steamer, ON 51226, 1064 tons, built 1865, owned by Bailey & Leetham of Hull.  The CLIP Crewlist website http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnum.php can be searched on those ONs for surviving documents, and a crew list might survive for 1875. Hope this is useful, although I suspect you might know some of this already! Best regards, Peter Klein ________________________________ From: Don Taig <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013, 8:08 Subject: [MAR] Ship Norfolk Hi Listers Trying to find information about the ship Norfolk and particularly it's crew in order to trace one crew member George Sutton's merchant seaman career. The ship berthed at Williamstown, Melbourne, Australia in 1875. George Sutton died of Sunstroke and never left the boat until his body was released for burial in the Melbourne General Cemetery. Any help in pointing me in the right direction for more details would be greatly appreciated. Cheers to all Listers Don Taig Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Generally speaking, all officers whose biographies are included in O'Byrne were alive in the 1840s.

I have just found this in the newspaper archive. 'The Argyle' touched for refreshment at Rio, where she found the 'Nancy', Capt. Pryce, from Sydney, for London, which had encountered very severe gales at Cape Horn. (6 Aug 1831 Hobart Town Courier) Now if they had encountered such bad weather could they have gone ashore but left the ship floundering around off shore and then returned to it... how would they know where the ship would end up if it was drifting... OR would they have all been below decks but surely some crew would have been seen by the Frenchmen, you can't just abandon the deck to go below can you? or did the French just not see someone strapped to the wheel as it were!! There is a super film ‘Around Cape Horn’, which details the adventures of Captain Irving Johnson when he sailed as an ordinary seaman through storms around Cape Horn onboard the massive bark ‘Peking’. I know it gets shown to the Youth Crew on each trip of 'Young Endeavour'... makes you appreciate what the old-time mariners had to go through. Cheers Caroline

Hello Paul Many thanks for your help with this, I'm now intrigued as to why the ship 'Nancy' was found empty or did the Frenchmen get the name wrong and if so, what was the name of the lost ship... so many questions and so few answers! Anyway you wonder about Capt Pryce's brothers... could the following thread help.... it is from the Aus-Immigration-Ships list which I am trying (without success) to join, this is an archive thread and a Capt Pryce does get a mention http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/aus-immigration-ships/2013-05/1369432178 All the best Caroline On 06-Jul-13 11:04 AM, Paul Benyon wrote: > Hi Caroline > > I can only find one Naval Officer, Henry Pryce, promoted to Commander > 19 Jul 1821, who was listed in the Navy List for July 1930, and is > included in O'Byrne's Naval Biographical Dictionary, which listed RN > executive officers included in the Navy List for early 1845. He > initially entered the service at the age of nearly 10 in 1796, > although the National Archives catalogue suggests 6 Sep 1804, might be > a more accurate date (ADM 196/2/67). > > So, IF (sic) he was the Master of the Nancy, it would appear that > those onboard, or at least some of them, survived. > > He had 6 brothers, who also joined the Service, but whilst looking for > Henry I didn't come across any of them. > > Paul

Thank you Peter, I look forward to viewing it, when my server allows me to download it, I've had two tries so far so will keep persisting Appreciate your help Caroline On 06-Jul-13 9:44 AM, Peter Beeston wrote: > I should have added that there is a short biography of him in O'Byrne's > "Naval Biographical Dictionary" which is on line: > > http://ia700402.us.archive.org/33/items/cu31924027921372/cu31924027921372.pdf > > He was also a Captain in the Portuguese Navy. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Author of "Pounding Along to Singapore, a history of the 2/20 Battalion AIF", available from [email protected] "From Baron to Battler, the story of Dr CUD Schrader of Walcha, 1860-1900" available from <www.smashwords.com/books/view/129058> "The Schrader Letters, 1871-1896" available from <www.smashword.com/books/view/109893>

Hi Paddy, If its Elizabeth Turner reference: http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=29199 Regards

Hello Paddy, This vessel initially seemed a bit of a puzzle.  No "Elizabeth Furner" appears in Lloyd's Registers for the period, nor in the Mercantile Navy Lists between 1859 and 1867, nor in Christie's Shipping Register under Goole in 1858.  Nor is there a listing for a William Fratson, or indeed any similar surname, in the same MNLs.   However, in the Goole Shipping Lists published in the Leeds Mercury and the Bradford Observer, a vessel "Elizabeth Turner" appears under a captain Fratson from June 1861, and he was still master in July 1873.  Previously during the 1850s Fratson had been mentioned as master of the "Sheaf", and then the "Frances Ann", the latter up until 1858. I can only assume that the enumerator's capital Ts and Fs in the census must have been very similar! So, the "Elizabeth Turner" of Goole does not appear in Lloyd's Registers, but that's not surprising for a small coaster, but her Official Number was 29199, Commercial Code signal Q.D.P.M., registered at 58 tons, her owner being William Fratson of Goole.  Fratson also appears to have taken a public house - the Mariner's Arms in South Street, Goole - for in September 1872 he was fined at the Leeds Brewster's Sessions ten shillings for permitting drunkenness in his house. So that's solved! Regards, Peter Klein ________________________________ From: Patricia Byers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013, 1:06 Subject: [MAR] "Elizabeth Furner" - coastal schooner I'm still seeking information about the "Elizabeth Furner" recorded in the 1861 census. She was a 57 ton Coaster Schooner. At the time of the census she was registered at Goole. The Captain was William Fratson (35), born in Yorkshire. Paddy Byers Hobart Tasmania ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

walking into town very soon, so stand by for later todayWendy > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 20:47:45 +1000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MAR] "Elizabeth Furner" - coastal schooner > > Many thanks Wendy. I look forward to hearing what is known about her. > Paddy > On 06/07/2013, at 7:40 PM, Wendy Hall-Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi PaddyI will ask the local library here in Goole if they have any info on her, they do hold a large collectionof info on ships/shipping.Wendy > > > >> From: [email protected] > >> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 10:06:29 +1000 > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [MAR] "Elizabeth Furner" - coastal schooner > >> > >> I'm still seeking information about the "Elizabeth Furner" recorded in the 1861 census. > >> She was a 57 ton Coaster Schooner. > >> At the time of the census she was registered at Goole. > >> The Captain was William Fratson (35), born in Yorkshire. > >> > >> Paddy Byers > >> Hobart > >> Tasmania > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm still seeking information about the "Elizabeth Furner" recorded in the 1861 census. She was a 57 ton Coaster Schooner. At the time of the census she was registered at Goole. The Captain was William Fratson (35), born in Yorkshire. Paddy Byers Hobart Tasmania

I should have added that there is a short biography of him in O'Byrne's "Naval Biographical Dictionary" which is on line: http://ia700402.us.archive.org/33/items/cu31924027921372/cu31924027921372.pdf He was also a Captain in the Portuguese Navy.

Hi PaddyI will ask the local library here in Goole if they have any info on her, they do hold a large collectionof info on ships/shipping.Wendy > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 10:06:29 +1000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MAR] "Elizabeth Furner" - coastal schooner > > I'm still seeking information about the "Elizabeth Furner" recorded in the 1861 census. > She was a 57 ton Coaster Schooner. > At the time of the census she was registered at Goole. > The Captain was William Fratson (35), born in Yorkshire. > > Paddy Byers > Hobart > Tasmania > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Henry Pryce was promoted Commander, RN on 19th July, 1821. He would have been unemployed by the Admiralty and on half-pay when Master of the NANCY. -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Gaden Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 8:31 AM To: Mme_N_Carmichael Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MAR] Ship Nancy, Captain Henry Pryce, 1831 Hello again Adi Thanks for the extra information, I'll check out the archive files... It seems from the initial advert Capt Pryce had been an RN commander but Nancy was advertised as a wool ship with accommodation for passengers so it looks as if the good Capt had switched to commercial ships. So I guess the questions still remain:- was it the same 'Nancy' that was spotted by the French vessel and reported by 'Asia'? If so where were her passengers at that time? It seems unlikely that they could have resumed their journey on board 'Nancy' if they had abandoned ship and left her to the mercy of the sea. How did Nancy come to be seen arriving safely in Falmouth? Archives here we come! Thanks Caroline On 06-Jul-13 2:06 AM, Mme_N_Carmichael wrote: > Hello Caroline, > > It took NANCY February to August to make the voyage Sydney to London via > Rio de Janeriro. Even assuming a very quick turn-around in London, she's > unlikely to have left for Australia again until late September 1831. > Nancy was found drifting south of the equator. With the newspaper > mention on December 5th, the time frame looks correct for ASIA to have > fallen in with her, then arrived in Australia and reported the news. The > Australian paper probably repeated the names of the passengers because > that was of local interest and because that would help fix in readers' > minds, just which vessel NANCY was. I didn't note any mentions of her > loss in the British newspapers. But .... with an R.N. Commander, was she > Navy? or commercial? If Navy, you may find more about her loss in > National Archives ADM files. There are certainly lots of hits there for > commanders named Henry Pryce. > > Regards, > Adi > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Caroline Gaden <[email protected]> > *To:* Mme_N_Carmichael <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2013 2:46:01 AM > *Subject:* Re: [MAR] Ship Nancy, Captain Henry Pryce, 1831 > > ... I wonder why the Sydney newspapers reported the loss > of 'Nancy' as late as December 1831 and actually named the passengers > from the Sydney to London voyage earlier in the year (ie left Sydney > in > February)... ... > I have come across the loss of a whaling ship 'Nancy' with Captain > Pryde > in New Zealand waters in March 1831 but surely they didn't mix the two > ships! > > I'll keep a look out for the Captain Pryce and crew of the wool ship > 'Nancy' and see if I can work out which one was wrecked and when and > where! > Many thanks for your help > Caroline > -- Author of "Pounding Along to Singapore, a history of the 2/20 Battalion AIF", available from [email protected] "From Baron to Battler, the story of Dr CUD Schrader of Walcha, 1860-1900" available from <www.smashwords.com/books/view/129058> "The Schrader Letters, 1871-1896" available from <www.smashword.com/books/view/109893> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again Adi Thanks for the extra information, I'll check out the archive files... It seems from the initial advert Capt Pryce had been an RN commander but Nancy was advertised as a wool ship with accommodation for passengers so it looks as if the good Capt had switched to commercial ships. So I guess the questions still remain:- was it the same 'Nancy' that was spotted by the French vessel and reported by 'Asia'? If so where were her passengers at that time? It seems unlikely that they could have resumed their journey on board 'Nancy' if they had abandoned ship and left her to the mercy of the sea. How did Nancy come to be seen arriving safely in Falmouth? Archives here we come! Thanks Caroline On 06-Jul-13 2:06 AM, Mme_N_Carmichael wrote: > Hello Caroline, > > It took NANCY February to August to make the voyage Sydney to London via > Rio de Janeriro. Even assuming a very quick turn-around in London, she's > unlikely to have left for Australia again until late September 1831. > Nancy was found drifting south of the equator. With the newspaper > mention on December 5th, the time frame looks correct for ASIA to have > fallen in with her, then arrived in Australia and reported the news. The > Australian paper probably repeated the names of the passengers because > that was of local interest and because that would help fix in readers' > minds, just which vessel NANCY was. I didn't note any mentions of her > loss in the British newspapers. But .... with an R.N. Commander, was she > Navy? or commercial? If Navy, you may find more about her loss in > National Archives ADM files. There are certainly lots of hits there for > commanders named Henry Pryce. > > Regards, > Adi > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Caroline Gaden <[email protected]> > *To:* Mme_N_Carmichael <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2013 2:46:01 AM > *Subject:* Re: [MAR] Ship Nancy, Captain Henry Pryce, 1831 > > ... I wonder why the Sydney newspapers reported the loss > of 'Nancy' as late as December 1831 and actually named the passengers > from the Sydney to London voyage earlier in the year (ie left Sydney in > February)... ... > I have come across the loss of a whaling ship 'Nancy' with Captain > Pryde > in New Zealand waters in March 1831 but surely they didn't mix the two > ships! > > I'll keep a look out for the Captain Pryce and crew of the wool ship > 'Nancy' and see if I can work out which one was wrecked and when and > where! > Many thanks for your help > Caroline > -- Author of "Pounding Along to Singapore, a history of the 2/20 Battalion AIF", available from [email protected] "From Baron to Battler, the story of Dr CUD Schrader of Walcha, 1860-1900" available from <www.smashwords.com/books/view/129058> "The Schrader Letters, 1871-1896" available from <www.smashword.com/books/view/109893>

Hi Listers Trying to find information about the ship Norfolk and particularly it's crew in order to trace one crew member George Sutton's merchant seaman career. The ship berthed at Williamstown, Melbourne, Australia in 1875. George Sutton died of Sunstroke and never left the boat until his body was released for burial in the Melbourne General Cemetery. Any help in pointing me in the right direction for more details would be greatly appreciated. Cheers to all Listers Don Taig Sent from my iPhone

Hi Caroline I can only find one Naval Officer, Henry Pryce, promoted to Commander 19 Jul 1821, who was listed in the Navy List for July 1930, and is included in O'Byrne's Naval Biographical Dictionary, which listed RN executive officers included in the Navy List for early 1845. He initially entered the service at the age of nearly 10 in 1796, although the National Archives catalogue suggests 6 Sep 1804, might be a more accurate date (ADM 196/2/67). Following his promotion he appears to have been involved in recruiting merchant service seamen for the RN, before entering the Portuguese Navy as a Captain when that country's Queen was having internal problems in Portugal (early 1830s?), and was decorated. At other times he states that he commanded Indiamen out of the port of London, so it would appear that he commanded merchant vessels when not employed by the Admiralty, or the Portuguese, but he gives no details. With 10 children it is understandable that he needed to supplement the half-pay he received from the Admiralty, although he would have needed their approval before taking up posts outside the Service. So, IF (sic) he was the Master of the Nancy, it would appear that those onboard, or at least some of them, survived. He had 6 brothers, who also joined the Service, but whilst looking for Henry I didn't come across any of them. Paul On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:48:43 +1000, Caroline Gaden <[email protected]> wrote: >Hello Listers >I am trying to track down what heppened to the ship 'Nancy' and the >Captain, crew and passengers en route from Sydney NSW to England. >We know our ancestors survived the voyage but we'd like to know what >happened and why the ship was deserted... any ideas where to go next for >information gratefully accepted! >Cheers >Caroline > >These are the newspaper articles I have found so far:- > >Advertisements for the ship Nancy showed tickets became available in >October 1830 and the ship left Sydney on Sunday 13 February 1831. Nancy >was the first wool ship direct to London, a fine First-Class Ship of >400 Tons Burthen, Captain HENRY PRYCE, R. N. Commander with superior >Accommodations for Passengers, and carrying an experienced Surgeon. >Sydney Gazette 23 October 1830 > >Shipping Intelligence >DEPARTURES. >For London, on Sunday last, the ship Nancy, Captain Pryce, with a cargo >of colonial produce. Passengers, Mr. and Mrs Melville and 5 children, >Mr. and Mrs. Potter, Mrs. Abel, Mrs. Balcombe, Mr. George Yates, Thomas >Isaacson, Maurice Collins, Patrick Teefy, John Teefy, James Ryan, George >Hughes, Edward Barrett, and Timothy Lingahan. >Sydney Gazette Tuesday 15 February 1831 > >Reports have reached the Colony by the Asia, of the loss of the Nancy, >Captain Pryce, seven degrees to the southward of the line. Our readers >may remember that Mrs. Balcombe and family, Mr. and Mrs. Melville, went >home by this vessel. It is said that a French vessel fell in with her >found her deserted, and waterlogged. We cannot trace this to any >authentic source, but the report is current. We trust, however, it will >be found incorrect. Sydney Herald 5 December 1831 > >We regret to have to report that the ship Asia, announced elsewhere, on >her outward passage, got information of the Nancy, Price; from this >port, having been lost on the passage home — a French vessel, it is >said, found her within 7. 25. S. lat. waterlogged and deserted. The >report is by no means authenticated, and may yet, as we hope it will, >prove fabulous. But admitting the Nancy to have been met as described, >there is every likelihood that her passengers had managed to escape to >some place of safety in the ship's boats— the Coast of Terra Firma or >the African Coast, being adjacent on either side. Among the Nancy's >passengers, were Mrs. Balcombe and Mrs. Abell, Mr and Mrs. Putter, >and Mr. and Mrs. Melville. >The Australian 9 December 1831 > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

Hello Caroline, My apologies: it seems I did not express clearly that you are referencing two separate  voyages. Your persons  of interest from Sydney aboard NANCY *did* arrive in England in August 1831. There is no doubt, from the newspaper reports,  that  it was the woolship that arrived. (I am now on the road for several days  with a baby laptop of limited capabilities so I cannot send you the actual newspaper clippings.) Further evidence suggests that Henry Pryce disappeared and should be "presumed dead" after the waterlogging-and-abandonment on the subsequent voyage. Perhaps this was indeed a whaling voyage and those two vessels named-NANCY-with-masters-of-similar-names *are* one and the same.  With the resources available to me, I cannot  say. But ... if you Google for ["Henry Pryce" "ship Nancy"] (without  those square brackets), the notices in The London Gazette strongly suggest what I wrote above. Regards, Adi ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Gaden <[email protected]> > To: Mme_N_Carmichael <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 3:31:22 AM > Subject: Re: [MAR] Ship Nancy, Captain Henry Pryce, 1831 > > Hello again Adi > Thanks for the extra information, I'll check out the archive files... It > seems from the initial advert Capt Pryce had been an RN commander but > Nancy was advertised as a wool ship with accommodation for passengers so > it looks as if the good Capt had switched to commercial ships. > So I guess the questions still remain:- was it the same 'Nancy' that was > > spotted by the French vessel and reported by 'Asia'? > If so where were her passengers at that time? It seems unlikely that > they could have resumed their journey on board 'Nancy' if they had > abandoned ship and left her to the mercy of the sea. > How did Nancy come to be seen arriving safely in Falmouth? > Archives here we come! > Thanks > Caroline

Hello Listers I am trying to track down what heppened to the ship 'Nancy' and the Captain, crew and passengers en route from Sydney NSW to England. We know our ancestors survived the voyage but we'd like to know what happened and why the ship was deserted... any ideas where to go next for information gratefully accepted! Cheers Caroline These are the newspaper articles I have found so far:- Advertisements for the ship Nancy showed tickets became available in October 1830 and the ship left Sydney on Sunday 13 February 1831. Nancy was the first wool ship direct to London, a fine First-Class Ship of 400 Tons Burthen, Captain HENRY PRYCE, R. N. Commander with superior Accommodations for Passengers, and carrying an experienced Surgeon. Sydney Gazette 23 October 1830 Shipping Intelligence DEPARTURES. For London, on Sunday last, the ship Nancy, Captain Pryce, with a cargo of colonial produce. Passengers, Mr. and Mrs Melville and 5 children, Mr. and Mrs. Potter, Mrs. Abel, Mrs. Balcombe, Mr. George Yates, Thomas Isaacson, Maurice Collins, Patrick Teefy, John Teefy, James Ryan, George Hughes, Edward Barrett, and Timothy Lingahan. Sydney Gazette Tuesday 15 February 1831 Reports have reached the Colony by the Asia, of the loss of the Nancy, Captain Pryce, seven degrees to the southward of the line. Our readers may remember that Mrs. Balcombe and family, Mr. and Mrs. Melville, went home by this vessel. It is said that a French vessel fell in with her found her deserted, and waterlogged. We cannot trace this to any authentic source, but the report is current. We trust, however, it will be found incorrect. Sydney Herald 5 December 1831 We regret to have to report that the ship Asia, announced elsewhere, on her outward passage, got information of the Nancy, Price; from this port, having been lost on the passage home — a French vessel, it is said, found her within 7. 25. S. lat. waterlogged and deserted. The report is by no means authenticated, and may yet, as we hope it will, prove fabulous. But admitting the Nancy to have been met as described, there is every likelihood that her passengers had managed to escape to some place of safety in the ship's boats— the Coast of Terra Firma or the African Coast, being adjacent on either side. Among the Nancy's passengers, were Mrs. Balcombe and Mrs. Abell, Mr and Mrs. Putter, and Mr. and Mrs. Melville. The Australian 9 December 1831

Dear all, I've just received this link to historical newspapers of Finland to December 1910 and pass it along. Though the newspapers are in Finnish, British port names, masters' names and vessel names are given in English. It will be a useful source if your mariners were involved in the Baltic trades. http://digi.kansalliskirjasto.fi/sanomalehti/secure/query.html Regards, Adi