----- Original Message ----- From: The Abbotts <Bunnydust@attbi.com> To: <MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: [PLY/MA] My Oldham....Sprout....Young.... Here's a tidbit I found. "First Settlers Around Boston", page 10: "John Oldham came to Plymouth in 1623. He was implicated with Lyford in an attempt to establish Episcopal rule in place of the government at Plymouth. Bradford writes that Oldham and Lyford drew "as many intoi faction as they could; were they never so vile or profane, they did nourish and back them all in their doings; so they would but cleave to them and speak against ye church hear[here]". Various charges against them were proved by means of intercepted letters. Oldham was banished and went to Nantakset. In 1625 he returned to Plymouth for a brief time according to Bradford. He went to Cape Ann the same year and later went to England. Upon his return, he resided at Watertown. He had grants there and also grants from the Indians of islands in Narragannset Bay. While on a trading trip in latter place in 1636,he was murdered by the indians. Bradford tells us that his death was "one ground for the Pequente warr which followed." Bonnie

Thank you for the posting. I'm quite interested in the non-conformist beliefs of the Plymouth settlers. I read a remark, said to be from Bradford, that Plymouth Colony was within the diocese of the Virginia Colony. Apparently, at one time, the Plymouth settlers considered asking the bishop at Virginia to send a priest to Plymouth in order to perform baptisms. At the time they apparently had no one who was ordained. The idea was rejected for fear that it could lead to the establishment of Church of England control at Plymouth. Question, does your source name any additional Plymouth settlers who were involved with Oldham and Lyford? Regards, Bill Churchill USA -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Rogers [mailto:bonniej10@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:04 PM To: MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PLY/MA] My Oldham....Sprout....Young.... ----- Original Message ----- From: The Abbotts <Bunnydust@attbi.com> To: <MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: [PLY/MA] My Oldham....Sprout....Young.... Here's a tidbit I found. "First Settlers Around Boston", page 10: "John Oldham came to Plymouth in 1623. He was implicated with Lyford in an attempt to establish Episcopal rule in place of the government at Plymouth. Bradford writes that Oldham and Lyford drew "as many intoi faction as they could; were they never so vile or profane, they did nourish and back them all in their doings; so they would but cleave to them and speak against ye church hear[here]". Various charges against them were proved by means of intercepted letters. Oldham was banished and went to Nantakset. In 1625 he returned to Plymouth for a brief time according to Bradford. He went to Cape Ann the same year and later went to England. Upon his return, he resided at Watertown. He had grants there and also grants from the Indians of islands in Narragannset Bay. While on a trading trip in latter place in 1636, he was murdered by the indians. Bradford tells us that his death was "one ground for the Pequente warr which followed." Bonnie