At times everyone has problems obtaining records from any records holding facility. I've heard of other places that are worst. Remember the $5.00 is a "research fee" not a document fee. In Oklahoma Birth Searches are $5.00 and Death Searches are $10.00 with or without results. Sometimes writing back to the Director works, sending a copy of an obit or funeral record helps with the death record request. Fred Frederick M. Dittmar Diggin' Deep Genealogy - Research Service Box 2601 Norman, Oklahoma 73070-2601 http://www.dittmar.net/fred Member: Association of Professional Genealogist Mail List Administrator: MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com DITTMAR-L@rootsweb.com CANNING-L@rootsweb.com DITTMAN-L@rootsweb.com Genealogical Assistant & Board Member Oklahoma Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs