I'm trying to identify the parents of the Joseph PERRY who married (probably as this third wife) Abigail FORD of Marshfield (int. 1757). I believe them to be Joseph PERRY and Mercy LEACH, who m. in Scituate in 1714. They had a son Joseph in 1719, who would be about the right age to have had three wives and several children--all recorded in Scituate/Marshfield--by 1757. It's impossible, so far, to say that in each instance, it's the same Joseph Perry marrying, but all the marriages, wives' deaths, births and deaths of children, fit beautifully date- and location-wise, so it's quite possible that the data refer to the same man. However, there are also at least two "competing" Joseph Perrys to consider: Joseph Perry (twin of Benjamin), born 13 Oct 1733 in Plymouth to Abner and Josanah Perry AND Joseph Perry, "ch. W[illia]m dec'd 'Late' of Freetown, bp. June 11, 1732. C.R.2." (Scituate Births) Does anyone know of any facts that would eliminate any of these Josephs from being Abigail Ford's husband? Both of the latter two would seem too young to have had two wives already--and I'm pretty sure that Abigail was the third wife, although the evidence is not absolute. Elimination of these other Josephs would be a big plus. Does anyone know of any OTHER Joseph Perry of the right age and place that I've missed? I'd be most grateful for any help/advice. Kendall Mellem jimell@swbell.net

In the Scituate VRs, Births p. 293, I find two references to a "William Perry of Freetown." PERRY, Lydia, d. William of Freetown, "& adopted by Elizabeth Tolman wife of Benjam," bp. July 19, 1730. and PERRY, Joseph, ch. W[illia]m dec'd "Late" of Freetown, bp. June 11, 1732. C.R.2. Does anyone know who this William Perry of Freetown was and/or how he might/might not be connected to the Perrys of Scituate? There are several William Perrys in the Scituate area, and I'm trying to keep them all straight--not an easy task. This William of Freetown is totally unknown to me, but he could have come from the Scituate area--esp. if after his death his children were adopted/baptized there. Help/advice will be greatly appreciated! Kendall Mellem jimell@swbell.net

Seeking ancestors of Elizabeth Barrows WALKER, born Plymouth, MA, 1837. Married Francis Dana Weekes Jr.

Dear List: Would someone who has TAG vols. 51 and/or 54 please contact me privately? Thank you, E. Hubbard (10th gr grandson)

Dear List: Today, I found a FREE calendar calculator web site which provides conversions and calendars which are technically correct. I needed to find out a calendar date for births when a baptismal date was given, and the birthdate was say "a Saturday earlier." The application works fine, but takes some time getting used to. :-) One thing I learned was that not all early baptisms in England were on a Saturday following a birth (a somewhat popular notion.) the URL for the site is: http://www.calendarhome.com/tyc/

You guys must think I am crazy. I meant for this message to go to old Hingham, not new. Sorry, but for a minute I became mentally challenged. Good morning, Can't seem to fine it on a current map. Does anyone have any idea as to where Elmham, Norfolk England is? I am reading parts of "The History of Rochford Hundred" published back in 1873 and on page 582 it mentions that Rev. Robert Peck married Anne, daughter of Rev. John Lawrence of Elmham, Norfolk. ( this was around 1605 or so). Could it be that Elmham no longer exist or could it be an error as to Norfolk and really be in Suffolk? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you and Have a Great Day. Dick DeBary, FL

That would be North Elmham. It is near Worthing or Billingford -- or give me a location in Norfolk that you know and I'll tell you where it is from that location. Regards, Bill Churchill USA -----Original Message----- From: Richard C. Witters [mailto:rwitters@bitstorm.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:56 AM To: MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PLY/MA] Elmham You guys must think I am crazy. I meant for this message to go to old Hingham, not new. Sorry, but for a minute I became mentally challenged. Good morning, Can't seem to fine it on a current map. Does anyone have any idea as to where Elmham, Norfolk England is? I am reading parts of "The History of Rochford Hundred" published back in 1873 and on page 582 it mentions that Rev. Robert Peck married Anne, daughter of Rev. John Lawrence of Elmham, Norfolk. ( this was around 1605 or so). Could it be that Elmham no longer exist or could it be an error as to Norfolk and really be in Suffolk? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you and Have a Great Day. Dick DeBary, FL ==== MAPLYMOU Mailing List ==== ====MAPLYMOU-L/D Mail List===== +-+ Owners = List Members +-+ =Administrator Frederick M. Dittmar= ====== fred@dittmar.net ====== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Good morning, Can't seem to fine it on a current map. Does anyone have any idea as to where Elmham, Norfolk England is? I am reading parts of "The History of Rochford Hundred" published back in 1873 and on page 582 it mentions that Rev. Robert Peck married Anne, daughter of Rev. John Lawrence of Elmham, Norfolk. ( this was around 1605 or so). Could it be that Elmham no longer exist or could it be an error as to Norfolk and really be in Suffolk? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you and Have a Great Day. Dick DeBary, FL

Does anyone on the list have information about a ship named “Blessing” that operated out of Plymouth, Devon, England circa mid 17th century? _________________ I have found two passenger lists for the ship "Blessing", both dated 1635. (From the book "Founders of New England" by Tepper. Who are you looking for? Susan E. Roser. www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html

Cynthia I sent this same response to the Mayflower list where you also asked this question, so this is principally to avoid duplication by people who might look this up, and to solicit correction or expansion of my reply from list members. H. C. Peter Rounds_Abstracts of Bristol County, Massachusetts Probate Records 1687-1745_ (Baltimore, Genealogical publishing Co., Inc, 1987) 10:329 Abstract of the will of Thomas Manley of Easton--names wife "Lidia" and dau. "Ruth Keith." will dated April 6, 1743 and prob. July 19, 1743. I realize this doesn't work with your dates, and I'm not really familiar with this family. But I think the dates you have may not be right. I think there were three Josiah's in one line--your's being the second. I believe the first married Mary Lathrop, their son married Ruth Manley, and their son married Susannah Williams. The first and third are in the Bridgewater VR (214) where Josiah 3 is said to be of Easton. He was married in 1758, Josiah 1 in 1703/3. I don't have VR for Easton. ***-----Original Message----- ***From: Cynthia [mailto:NewEnglanders1620@samnet.net] ***Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 6:54 PM ***To: MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com ***Subject: [PLY/MA] Manley.....Keith....Field.... *** *** *** I have a RUTH MANLEY who b. probably in Easton area of Mass., ***married Josiah Keith [dec.of Rev.James Keith] in 1768....... *** Who were her parents ? I have a Thomas and Lydia (Field). *** Can anyone help ? *** ***Cynthia ***administrator for: *** Ma-Bay-Colony-L@rootsweb.com *** search the archives of MBC *** http://archiver.rootsweb.com *** *** *** ***

In the book: "Plymouth Colony""Its History & People" 1620 - 1691 by Eugene Aubrey Stratton Page 360: John Stockbridge was born in England ca. 1608, and at age twenty-seven he sailed for New England on 17 June 1635 on the BLESSING with his wife Ann, twenty-one and son Charles, one. NGSQ 74:111 Page 365: In 1635 he (William Vassall) sailed aboard the BLESSING, at age forty-two with his wife Ann, age forty-two...... NGSQ 17:56; Deane, Scituate, p. 366; Pope I find no other reference to the BLESSING in any of my other Plymouth / Mayflower books. RE: >The Rehoboth mentioned was a settlement in the Plymouth Colony (now >Plymouth, Massachusetts). Rehoboth was first settled about 1643 and >1640 is my time period of interest. Rehoboth is a town now 7 miles east of Providence, R.I. in Bristol County, Mass. -- Frederick M. Dittmar Diggin' Deep Genealogy - Research Service Box 2601 Norman, Oklahoma 73070-2601 http://www.dittmar.net/fred Member: Association of Professional Genealogist Mail List Administrator: MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com DITTMAR-L@rootsweb.com CANNING-L@rootsweb.com DITTMAN-L@rootsweb.com Genealogical Assistant & Board Member Oklahoma Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs

A ship named Blessing, Jo. Lecester, master, landed in New England in 1635. Not sure of the point of embarkation, although it may have been London. The passenger list I excerpted(listing my Brooks ancestors, who settled in Scituate,MA), is found in "Passengers to America, A Cosolidation of Ship Passenger Lists from The New England Historical and Genealogical Register", ed. Michael Tepper, Genealogical Publishing Co.,Inc., Baltimore, 1977. Is it possible that this is the same ship you are looking for? Would be happy to do a lookup for other sailings. Contact me off list with the relevant info. Merry Brooks Gonsalves ===== "The cure for anything is salt - sweat, tears or the sea." Isak Dinesen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

I have a RUTH MANLEY who b. probably in Easton area of Mass., married Josiah Keith [dec.of Rev.James Keith] in 1768....... Who were her parents ? I have a Thomas and Lydia (Field). Can anyone help ? Cynthia administrator for: Ma-Bay-Colony-L@rootsweb.com search the archives of MBC http://archiver.rootsweb.com

Bill, At 10:22 AM 6/28/02 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone on the list have information about a ship named "Blessing" >that operated out of Plymouth, Devon, England circa mid 17th century? Spotted the following about a ship named "Blessings" 1609-1703, as I was updating my bookmarks on Ships and Passenger Lists: http://www.daddezio.com/genealogy/ships/genship.hts?database=seadir&query=Blessing The page wouldn't finish loading in NS 4.79, but did in NS 7PR1 and IE6. There are several websites dedicated to Ships, Passenger lists, etc. that might have more info for you: http://www.OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ships/ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/Emigration.html http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/pass.html http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html http://www.obitcentral.com/shipsearch/ http://www.daddezio.com/genealogy/ships/index.html http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm --- Susan SGTAYLOR1@att.net My Genealogy Website - sgt http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ ----------------------------------------------- USGW Mansfield, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/mansfield.html USGW New London, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/newlondon.html USGW Norwich, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/norwich.html USGW Windham, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/windham.html USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ ********************************************************* >I found the following mention of "The Blessing" in comments about a >Richard Martin of Devon, England: > >"To Rehoboth, Richard Martin, possibly the master of the Ship "Blessing" >of Plymouth and possibly gentry (according to Risdon)." > >The ship would have operated out of Plymouth, Devon and along the west >coast of England. Apparently it made trips between Devon and the east >coast colonies in America. > >The Rehoboth mentioned was a settlement in the Plymouth Colony (now >Plymouth, Massachusetts). Rehoboth was first settled about 1643 and >1640 is my time period of interest. > >Bill Churchill >USA > >

The following URL mentions the ship Blessing and its captian. It may not be the one you are lookong for. Conrad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Churchill" <churchil@koyote.com> To: <MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: [PLY/MA] Ship Blessing Does anyone on the list have information about a ship named “Blessing” that operated out of Plymouth, Devon, England circa mid 17th century? I found the following mention of “The Blessing” in comments about a Richard Martin of Devon, England:

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:47:16 -0400 Dale H Cook <radiotest@juno.com> writes: > "A Bibliography of Ship Passenger Lists, 1583-1625" Whoops, that should be "A Bibliography of Ship Passenger Lists, 1583- >>>1825<<< " Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, WWWR Roanoke VA, WCQV Moneta VA, WKBA WZZI Vinton VA, WKPA WLNI WLVA WZZU Lynchburg VA

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 10:22:50 -0500 "Bill Churchill" <churchil@koyote.com> writes: > Does anyone on the list have information about a ship named “Blessing” > that operated out of Plymouth, Devon, England circa mid 17th century? Bill - If you don't get specifics about the Blessing I can suggest some lookups. "A Bibliography of Ship Passenger Lists, 1583-1625" lists 14 works with passengers on a ship named Blessing bound for America. Six of those sources are specific to Massachussetts immigrants, while some of the rest (such as Hotten) include Massachusetts. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, WWWR Roanoke VA, WCQV Moneta VA, WKBA WZZI Vinton VA, WKPA WLNI WLVA WZZU Lynchburg VA

Does anyone on the list have information about a ship named “Blessing” that operated out of Plymouth, Devon, England circa mid 17th century? I found the following mention of “The Blessing” in comments about a Richard Martin of Devon, England: "To Rehoboth, Richard Martin, possibly the master of the Ship "Blessing" of Plymouth and possibly gentry (according to Risdon)." The ship would have operated out of Plymouth, Devon and along the west coast of England. Apparently it made trips between Devon and the east coast colonies in America. The Rehoboth mentioned was a settlement in the Plymouth Colony (now Plymouth, Massachusetts). Rehoboth was first settled about 1643 and 1640 is my time period of interest. Bill Churchill USA

-----Original Message----- From: rjoa@telusplanet.net Hello listers. Can anyone tell me what criteria was used to send out invitations to the 300th anniversary of the Mayflower in 1920? Josephine Boehm Vonderloh, then living in the province of Saskatchewan in Canada, received such an invitation. It was then presumed that she was descended from the Mayflower through some Ramseys. I tried the Pilgrim Society and Mayflower Societies but they could not help me. I just wondered if anyone else has had such an invitation with or without MFR ancestry and had any insight as to the origins. Thanks. Roseline in Canada

Wilma, You have taken on quite a choice trying to sort out the Hingham LINCOLNs. There were 8 LINCOLN progenitor/immigrants who settled in Hingham. Here are the ones I have in my db: (1) Thomas/1 ( - 1692) and (2) his brother Stephen/1 ( - 1658) immigrated on the "Deligient in 1638. (3) Thomas/1 LINCOLN (-1691) immigrated in c1635 and settled in Hingham. (4) Samuel/1 LINCOLN (1622-1690) immigrated in 1637, lived 1st in Salem and then settled in Hingham. (5) Sgt Daniel LINCOLN/1 (1619-1699) settled in Hingham. I believe I've read that there were a total of **4** Thomas LINCOLNs who settled in Hingham and they are referred to by their occupation in order to keep them straight. Abraham LINCOLN's ancestry traces to the Hingham LINCOLNs. I believe???? Samuel/1 LINCOLN (1622-1690) was the immigrant/progenitor of ol' Abe via his son Mordecai/2, Mordecai/3, John/4, Abraham/5, Thomas/6, Ol' Abe/6. My sources for the early LINCOLN generations are of course Lincoln's History of Hingham, Torrey's Marriages of New England Prior to 1700, and Savage. Here is a brief intro to the Hingham LINCOLNs in: George Lincoln, History of the Town of Hingham, Massachusetts: Vols. II, III, The Genealogies (Somersworth, NH: New England History Press, 1982, originally published 1893), Vol. II, p. 448-449. "Among the earlier settlers of our Hing. were eight persons (males) of mature age bearing this surname, of whom mention is made upon the records of the town. These were Daniel Lincoln the husbandman, who died unm. 3 Apr. 1644, and his brothers Samuel Lincoln, and Thomas Lincoln the weaver; Daniel Lincoln, kn. as 'the your man,' and a 'Sergeant' and 'boatman;' Stephen Lincoln, and his bro. Thomas Lincoln the husbandman; Thomas Lincoln the cooper; and Thomas Lincoln the miller. "Thus there were four Thomases, distinguished from each other by their occupations, as cooper, husbandman, miller, and weaver; two Daniels; Samuel; and Stephen." Okay, to your Hingham LINCOLN quest... >I have some questions, I am hoping someone on the list will have the answer >for me - > >7th gr gu > Daniel 2) LINCOLN was born 2 Jan 1653 at Hingman, Plymouth, Massachusetts - >Daniel died 29 Apr 1732 at Hingham. > > Daniel was the s/o Samuel 1) LINCOLN 1622-1690 and Martha 2) LYFORD >1624/28 - 1693 - they were my 8th gr grandparents This Samuel was brother to the unmarried Daniel and to Thomas the weaver. > Daniel married 23 Jan 1677/8 at Hingham >TO: Elizabeth LINCOLN. > > Elizabeth LINCOLN was a twin to Ruth LINCOLN born 16 Nov 1664 at Hingman, >the children of Thomas 1) LINCOLN [the Husbandman] c1617-1692 and Margaret >LANGER - Hmmm... I have your Eliz. born 2 Dec 1656 and Ruth born 19 Nov 1662 per Lincoln's Hingham, Vol. II, p. 460, Vol III, p. 16, and Savage III, p. 94 From the above it appears this Thomas, the husbandman, was brother to Stephen as you all ready know. > Thomas 1) LINCOLN the husbandman had a brother Stephen 1) LINCOLN 1615-1658 >who married Margaret ------ she d 1649 in Hingham - as did Stephen. > > Thomas and Stephen LINCOLN were the sons of .... Lincoln and Joan .... >Their unknown father died bef 1638 in England - their mother Joan died >after 1658 at Hingham, MA. > >This is what I am looking for - > >1. Daniel 2) LINCOLN md Elizabeth 2) LINCOLN - were they related other than >husband and wife? Not on this side of the big pond from anything said in the sources I have. I wouldn't be surprised if most of these Lincoln immigrant/progenitors prove out eventually to being 2nd or 3rd cousins. >2. Thomas 1) LINCOLN the husbandman >and his brother Stephen 1) LINCOLN - >are they connected to Daniel 2) LINCOLN'S line - which are: > >Daniel 2) LINCOLN 1653-1732 > md Elizabeth 2) LINCOLN 1664- > >Samuel 1) LINCOLN 'the weaver' 1622-1690 > md Martha 2) LYFORD 1624/8-1693 Samuel's brothers were Thomas the weaver and the Daniel that didn't married. >Edward -1) LINCOLN 1580-1640 > md Bridget -1) GILMAN c1582- > >Richard -2) LINCOLN 1550-1620 > md Elizabeth RENSCHING 1563- > >Robert -3) LINCOLN 1525-1556 > md Margaret ALBERYE 1529- > >Robert -4) LINCOLN 1496- > md Joan COWPER c1503- If you haven't done the USGenWeb site for Hingham, I'd highly recommend it: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mahingha/index.html It has links to a transcription/scanning project of Lincoln's History of Hingham. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mahingha/surnames.html I believe some of the LINCOLN section is up: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mahingha/surnames.html#GlossL The LINCOLN section covers from Vol. II p, 448-486 and into Vol. III from p. 3-64 in the original book. BTW, I don't have a direct LINCOLN line, but siblings of my many Hingham lines married in and out of the LINCOLNS causing great confusion. --- Susan SGTAYLOR1@att.net My Genealogy Website - sgt http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ ----------------------------------------------- USGW Mansfield, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/mansfield.html USGW New London, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/newlondon.html USGW Norwich, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/norwich.html USGW Windham, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/windham.html USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ *********************************************************