Coralynn Brown has just completed the transcription of "Bridgewater In The Rebellion" by Arthur HOOPER, 1880, which provides a list of the Bridgewater men who served in Civil War regiments. Because of the length of the book, the file has been divided into two parts. You'll find it at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/index.htm Look under What's New or in the section on Plymouth Co. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

Eugene, Good discussion, I haven't been able to jump in until now. You are correct - Hannah4 Howland, dau of John3 Howland (John2-1) & Joanna Shove married at Barnstable, 28 Dec. 1732, John Allen not John Fuller. This appears to be based on the fact that John & Hannah Allen named a son "Shove" and that Hannah4 appears to be married in the 1738 will of her father, John3 Howland (although her surname was not given). This marriage is accepted by the society and is found in the Howland 5 generation book, vol. 2. John & Hannah Allen are credited with 2 children, Shove & John - nothing further is known about John, and Shove m. Mary Proctor with no further record, therefore neither of these lines are carried further. As for the marriages of John3 Howland, these were confused in print for many years - Bowman in Mayflower Marriages thought first wife was possibly Abigail Crocker - this error should be noted in our copies and Joanna Shove should replace Abigail Crocker on pg.228. Proof of the Shove marriage was found in a deed dated 20 May 1714 whereby "John Howland acquired land that was "due Joannah, wife of John Howland, whose maiden name was Shove" <North Purchase Proprietors Recs.1:57 as cited in Howland 2:40>. Susan E. Roser www.rootsweb.com/~canms/canada.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Hubbard" <hubfam@earthlink.net> To: <MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [PLY/MA] John Allen's Wife Hannah Howland > Dear Susan and List: > > OK, Good discussion... > > It has prompted me to search the Internet for Joanna Shove. I got a > very good documented hit right away. The owner of the information has > done a thorough job, althought the proper attribution for the marriage > of 2nd John Howland to Joanna Shove should read 2nd edition (not 2nd > volume) of Mayflower Increasings by Susan E, Rosier. To quote the > paragraph by Roser, found on p.71 of IBID, "10. John HOWLAND^3, b. 30 > Sept. 1672, Barnstable <MD 5:75>; MSR 613>, d. 14 Feb. 1737/8, 63rd yr, > Barnstable g.s. <MD 45:159 (Memorial Insciptions W. Barnstable Cem.)>; > m. 1st, 1704, Barnstable, Joanna SHOVE <White 2:39>, (dau George SHOVE > and Hannah (BACON) Walley, b. 28 Sept. 1678, Taunton <Taunton VR 1:387; > MD 22:92>, d. betw. 8 Jan. 1715 (bth last ch.) - 18 June 1719 (hus.2nd > /Marr.). John m.2nd, 18 June 1719, Barnstable, Mary CROCKER <md > 32:152,33:121>, (dau. of Job CROCKER & Hannah TAYLOR), B. 29 June 1681, > Barnstable <MD 3:151; Otis 1:215>, d. 10 Sept. 1759, 79th yr, Barnstable > g.s. <MQ 45:159 (Memorial Insciptions W. Barnstable Cem.)> (See HOWLAND > probate Appendix for will of John Howland.) <See MBD 2:163; MD 5:75 for > 4 chil. by 1st wf; see MBD 2:163; MD 5:75,33:121 for 2 chil. by 2nd wf.>" > > See the following url for the Internet info: > > http://www.gendex.com/users/rtwgen/mwheeler/d0002/g0000087.html > > By clicking on any highlighted person, one can go to a family of the > person. The numbers in parentheses refer to listed references. > > I have things right thru daughter Hannah, whose mother was Joanna Shove > (whose mg I cited with improper attributions). Acc. to published > records, Hannah's husband was James Fuller of whom nothing further. > > We then have to address why the Hannah, who married John Allen would > have named a son Shove, as did George Gill Howland, a stated son of 3rd > John Howland and unlisted wife (acc. to William T. Davis.).... 3rd John > Howland married (2nd) Mary Crocker. He did not marry Abigail Crocker at > all..neither Davis nor Rosier mentions it. Author Franklyn Howland had > to have guessed at the name of 3rd John's 1st wife.... One Abigail > Crocker married George Gill Howland, mentioned above. She was the dau. > of John Crocker and Hannah (???), b. 1706. > > I propose once again that Hannah (Howland) Allen was the daughter of > Joanna Shove and 3rd John Howland, he the son of 2nd John Howland and > Mary Lee... > > 'Gene Hubbard > > > Susan Taylor wrote: > > > Hi Eugene, et al! > > > > I really have no answer for you on your Hannah HOWLAND hunt but do > > have a bit of info on the Hannah, b. 1708 to John HOWLAND.<SNIP> > > ______________________________

I've really got to fold on this matter...I'm making too many typos.. The person first mentioned as 2nd John Howland should be 3rd John Howland. 3rd John's birth was misqoted from Roser (not Rosier) and should have been 31 Dec 1674. (not 30 Sept. 1672). Sorry, 'Gene Hubbard

Dear Susan and List: OK, Good discussion... It has prompted me to search the Internet for Joanna Shove. I got a very good documented hit right away. The owner of the information has done a thorough job, althought the proper attribution for the marriage of 2nd John Howland to Joanna Shove should read 2nd edition (not 2nd volume) of Mayflower Increasings by Susan E, Rosier. To quote the paragraph by Roser, found on p.71 of IBID, "10. John HOWLAND^3, b. 30 Sept. 1672, Barnstable <MD 5:75>; MSR 613>, d. 14 Feb. 1737/8, 63rd yr, Barnstable g.s. <MD 45:159 (Memorial Insciptions W. Barnstable Cem.)>; m. 1st, 1704, Barnstable, Joanna SHOVE <White 2:39>, (dau George SHOVE and Hannah (BACON) Walley, b. 28 Sept. 1678, Taunton <Taunton VR 1:387; MD 22:92>, d. betw. 8 Jan. 1715 (bth last ch.) - 18 June 1719 (hus.2nd /Marr.). John m.2nd, 18 June 1719, Barnstable, Mary CROCKER <md 32:152,33:121>, (dau. of Job CROCKER & Hannah TAYLOR), B. 29 June 1681, Barnstable <MD 3:151; Otis 1:215>, d. 10 Sept. 1759, 79th yr, Barnstable g.s. <MQ 45:159 (Memorial Insciptions W. Barnstable Cem.)> (See HOWLAND probate Appendix for will of John Howland.) <See MBD 2:163; MD 5:75 for 4 chil. by 1st wf; see MBD 2:163; MD 5:75,33:121 for 2 chil. by 2nd wf.>" See the following url for the Internet info: http://www.gendex.com/users/rtwgen/mwheeler/d0002/g0000087.html By clicking on any highlighted person, one can go to a family of the person. The numbers in parentheses refer to listed references. I have things right thru daughter Hannah, whose mother was Joanna Shove (whose mg I cited with improper attributions). Acc. to published records, Hannah's husband was James Fuller of whom nothing further. We then have to address why the Hannah, who married John Allen would have named a son Shove, as did George Gill Howland, a stated son of 3rd John Howland and unlisted wife (acc. to William T. Davis.).... 3rd John Howland married (2nd) Mary Crocker. He did not marry Abigail Crocker at all..neither Davis nor Rosier mentions it. Author Franklyn Howland had to have guessed at the name of 3rd John's 1st wife.... One Abigail Crocker married George Gill Howland, mentioned above. She was the dau. of John Crocker and Hannah (???), b. 1706. I propose once again that Hannah (Howland) Allen was the daughter of Joanna Shove and 3rd John Howland, he the son of 2nd John Howland and Mary Lee... 'Gene Hubbard Susan Taylor wrote: > Hi Eugene, et al! > > I really have no answer for you on your Hannah HOWLAND hunt but do > have a bit of info on the Hannah, b. 1708 to John HOWLAND.<SNIP>

Hi Eugene, et al! I really have no answer for you on your Hannah HOWLAND hunt but do have a bit of info on the Hannah, b. 1708 to John HOWLAND. According to: Franklyn Howland, A Brief Genealogical and Biographical History of Arthur, Henry, and John Howland, and Their Descendants, of the United States and Canada, together with an account of the efforts made in England to learn of their English ancestry, etc (Microfiche of First Edition (1885); Sanford, NC: Microfilming Corp. of America, 1979) in custody of the Memphis Public Library, p. 331. This Hannah was the dau. of John/3 who md/1 Abigail Crocker and md/2 in 1719 Mary Crocker. No mention of a wife Joanna SHOVE. >doesn't seem to be another candidate other than for Hannah b. 2 Feb 1708, >per my examination of William T. Davis's entries in 'Genealogical Register >of Plymouth Families' p.151. He cites Hannah, dau. of John and Joanna >(Shove) Howland b. 1708. Hmmmm.... my copy: William T. Davis, Ancient Landmarks of Plymouth. Part I. Historical Sketch & Titles of Estates. Part II. Genealogical Register of Plymouth Families (Boston: William T. Davis, 1883), Part II, p. 151. Also viewed on-line: http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/plyalpgr_h2.html#howland Mentions no wife named SHOVE for him. It doesn't give a name for his 1st wife and says 2nd wife was Mary Crocker. In fact Davis has no John HOWLAND married to any Joanne SHOVE. Also: Leon Clark Hills, History and Genealogy of the Mayflower Planters to Ye Olde Colonie, Two Volumes in One (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc, 1975), p. 164. Only lists wives of Abigail and Mary CROCKER for this John HOWLAND. Anyhow, the published HOWLAND genealogy says this Hannah was "b. 2, 2, 1708" and "d. 1738, unmarried." Soooo according to this genealogy she didn't marry. Nowwwww Davis and Howland genealogy (both very out-dated sources) and MFPlanters are suspect sources at best. It would probably behoove you to check out the Mayflower publications on HOWLAND: White, Elizabeth, John Howland of the Mayflower, Vols. I & II by Picton Press http://www.mayflower.org/book.htm I suspect a good size public library might have it. --- Susan SGTAYLOR1@att.net My Genealogy Website - sgt http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ ----------------------------------------------- USGW Mansfield, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcmansf/ USGW New London, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcnewlo/ USGW Norwich, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcnorwi/ USGW Windham, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcwindh/ USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ ********************************************************* At 01:55 PM 5/22/03 -0400, Eugene Hubbard wrote: >I have left the earlier messages intact to permit a reader >to follow the discussion. > >Dear Dale and Lists: > >My message was to suggest the connections in order to get a >discussion going. I found none in writing by a recognized source. :-) > >I will give you the Fuller marriage as more - >questionable..but one James was b. 27 Feb 1704 and there >doesn't seem to be another candidate other than for Hannah b. 2 Feb 1708, >per my examination of William T. Davis's entries in 'Genealogical Register >of Plymouth Families' p.151. He cites Hannah, dau. of John and Joanna >(Shove) Howland b. 1708. > > I feel most-comfortable with my suggestion that this Hannah was the > wife of John Allen per her havin named a child Shove. > >You are right in that Bowman did not assign Hannah to any parents at the >time of her marriage. That was an incorrect attribution on my part. In >fact, I believe Bowman only transcribed town records, he did not make >genealogies out of the information, so I don't think that is a drawback to >my proposition. > >'Gene > >Dale H. Cook wrote: > > > At 11:12 PM 5/21/2003 -0400, Eugene Hubbard wrote: > > > >> One Hannah Howland married James Fuller (banns 21 Nov >1731 in the > >> town of Barnstable) (see Dunkle's transcription of >'Early Vital > >> Records of Barnstable, Dukes, & Nantucket Counties (from >the Gustavus > >> Adolphus Hinckley Collection)', ii:355, 357)). The >Vital Records of > >> Barnstable published in the Mayflower Descendant (34:18) >says she was > >> the daughter of John Howland and Joanna Shove. > > > > > > Eugene - > > > > I don't see any indication of her parents. MD 34:18 has: > > > > "[p. 335] Persons Published in Order for Marriag by David >Crocker Town > > Clark 1731 > > (I here omit five intentions) > > James Fuller & Hannah Howland of ths town N 21 1731" > > with no note by Bowman that might indicate her parents. > > > > The intentions continue on the next page (MD 34:19) >including: > > > > "John Allen of Hingham & Hannah Howland of This Town Nr >12 1732" > > > > with the marriage entry on the following page (MD 34:20): > > > > "[p. 357] Persons Married by the Revrd Mr Jonathan >Russell 1730 > > (I omit a number of 1730, 1731 and 1732 marriages before >coming to...) > > Decem 28th John Allen Hingham Hannah Howland" > > with a note by Bowman indicating that Hingham MA was meant. > > > >> Hannah's son's name of "Shove" is the clue needed to >attribute her to > >> the appropriate parents. Hannah's brother George Gill >Howland also > >> had a son named Shove. I know of no reason why Bowman >made the > >> connection he did for the Hannah's Fuller marriage, and >did not make > >> the connection for her Allen marriage. > > > > > > Where in Bowman did you find him attributing John Howland >and Joanna > > (Shove) Howland as the parents of Hannah (Howland) >Fuller? I cannot > > find that attribution in MD or in the Bowman Files as >published in > > "Mayflower Marriages" and "Mayflower Births & Deaths." > > > > > > Dale H. Cook > > Member, NEHGS > > USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns Host: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html > > > > > > ==== MAPLYMOU Mailing List ==== > > ====MAPLYMOU-L/D Mail List===== > > +-+ Owners = List Members +-+ > > =Administrator Frederick M. 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I have left the earlier messages intact to permit a reader to follow the discussion. Dear Dale and Lists: My message was to suggest the connections in order to get a discussion going. I found none in writing by a recognized source. :-) I will give you the Fuller marriage as more - questionable..but one James was b. 27 Feb 1704 and there doesn't seem to be another candidate other than for Hannah b. 2 Feb 1708, per my examination of William T. Davis's entries in 'Genealogical Register of Plymouth Families' p.151. He cites Hannah, dau. of John and Joanna (Shove) Howland b. 1708. I feel most-comfortable with my suggestion that this Hannah was the wife of John Allen per her havin named a child Shove. You are right in that Bowman did not assign Hannah to any parents at the time of her marriage. That was an incorrect attribution on my part. In fact, I believe Bowman only transcribed town records, he did not make genealogies out of the information, so I don't think that is a drawback to my proposition. 'Gene Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 11:12 PM 5/21/2003 -0400, Eugene Hubbard wrote: > >> One Hannah Howland married James Fuller (banns 21 Nov 1731 in the >> town of Barnstable) (see Dunkle's transcription of 'Early Vital >> Records of Barnstable, Dukes, & Nantucket Counties (from the Gustavus >> Adolphus Hinckley Collection)', ii:355, 357)). The Vital Records of >> Barnstable published in the Mayflower Descendant (34:18) says she was >> the daughter of John Howland and Joanna Shove. > > > Eugene - > > I don't see any indication of her parents. MD 34:18 has: > > "[p. 335] Persons Published in Order for Marriag by David Crocker Town > Clark 1731 > (I here omit five intentions) > James Fuller & Hannah Howland of ths town N 21 1731" > with no note by Bowman that might indicate her parents. > > The intentions continue on the next page (MD 34:19) including: > > "John Allen of Hingham & Hannah Howland of This Town Nr 12 1732" > > with the marriage entry on the following page (MD 34:20): > > "[p. 357] Persons Married by the Revrd Mr Jonathan Russell 1730 > (I omit a number of 1730, 1731 and 1732 marriages before coming to...) > Decem 28th John Allen Hingham Hannah Howland" > with a note by Bowman indicating that Hingham MA was meant. > >> Hannah's son's name of "Shove" is the clue needed to attribute her to >> the appropriate parents. Hannah's brother George Gill Howland also >> had a son named Shove. I know of no reason why Bowman made the >> connection he did for the Hannah's Fuller marriage, and did not make >> the connection for her Allen marriage. > > > Where in Bowman did you find him attributing John Howland and Joanna > (Shove) Howland as the parents of Hannah (Howland) Fuller? I cannot > find that attribution in MD or in the Bowman Files as published in > "Mayflower Marriages" and "Mayflower Births & Deaths." > > > Dale H. Cook > Member, NEHGS > USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns Host: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html > > > ==== MAPLYMOU Mailing List ==== > ====MAPLYMOU-L/D Mail List===== > +-+ Owners = List Members +-+ > =Administrator Frederick M. Dittmar= > ====== fred@dittmar.net ====== > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

At 11:12 PM 5/21/2003 -0400, Eugene Hubbard wrote: >One Hannah Howland married James Fuller (banns 21 Nov 1731 in the town of >Barnstable) (see Dunkle's transcription of 'Early Vital Records of >Barnstable, Dukes, & Nantucket Counties (from the Gustavus Adolphus >Hinckley Collection)', ii:355, 357)). The Vital Records of Barnstable >published in the Mayflower Descendant (34:18) says she was the daughter of >John Howland and Joanna Shove. Eugene - I don't see any indication of her parents. MD 34:18 has: "[p. 335] Persons Published in Order for Marriag by David Crocker Town Clark 1731 (I here omit five intentions) James Fuller & Hannah Howland of ths town N 21 1731" with no note by Bowman that might indicate her parents. The intentions continue on the next page (MD 34:19) including: "John Allen of Hingham & Hannah Howland of This Town Nr 12 1732" with the marriage entry on the following page (MD 34:20): "[p. 357] Persons Married by the Revrd Mr Jonathan Russell 1730 (I omit a number of 1730, 1731 and 1732 marriages before coming to...) Decem 28th John Allen Hingham Hannah Howland" with a note by Bowman indicating that Hingham MA was meant. >Hannah's son's name of "Shove" is the clue needed to attribute her to the >appropriate parents. Hannah's brother George Gill Howland also had a son >named Shove. I know of no reason why Bowman made the connection he did >for the Hannah's Fuller marriage, and did not make the connection for her >Allen marriage. Where in Bowman did you find him attributing John Howland and Joanna (Shove) Howland as the parents of Hannah (Howland) Fuller? I cannot find that attribution in MD or in the Bowman Files as published in "Mayflower Marriages" and "Mayflower Births & Deaths." Dale H. Cook Member, NEHGS USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns Host: http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html

One Hannah Howland married James Fuller (banns 21 Nov 1731 in the town of Barnstable) (see Dunkle's transcription of 'Early Vital Records of Barnstable, Dukes, & Nantucket Counties (from the Gustavus Adolphus Hinckley Collection)', ii:355, 357)). The Vital Records of Barnstable published in the Mayflower Descendant (34:18) says she was the daughter of John Howland and Joanna Shove. If she was indeed their daughter, she is certainly the Hannah Howland who married John Allen of Hingham (marriage banns in Barnstable 12 Nov 1732, marrige 28 Dec 1732.) (Ibid.) Hannah (???) was the wife of John Allen of Hingham, acc. to George Lincoln, ii:8 'The History of the Town of Hingham Massachusetts the Genealogies', and the mother of SHOVE Allen b. 28 Oct 1733. Hannah's son's name of "Shove" is the clue needed to attribute her to the appropriate parents. Hannah's brother George Gill Howland also had a son named Shove. I know of no reason why Bowman made the connection he did for the Hannah's Fuller marriage, and did not make the connection for her Allen marriage. Have I missed something? 'Gene Hubbard

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_1HD8NcyR7RzPXmxIaKNOcA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline YEA CORALYNN AND JANE!! You have made a tremendous contribution of time and effort that hundreds = of us = will benefit from=2E I am eager to spend time searching for all my ancest= ors whom = you have revealed with your transcribing=2E A thousand thank yous to you! Esther Snively in San Jose=2C California Coralynn Brown has completed her extended project of transcribing the = Bridgewater Vital Records to 1850 - the final file=2C Deaths=2C S-W surna= mes=2C is = now on line=2E=A0 YEAH=2C CORALYNN!!!!=2E=2E The series contains thirty-f= ive files with = close to 2 MEGS of data - Thanks!! Also=2C I=27ve transcribed and uploaded the membership roll of the First = Church of = Middleboro=2C a total of 1084 members with a number of relationships note= d = along with where people went when they were dismissed from the church=2E=A0= = Jane Devlin Lake Orion=2C MI janedevlin=40ameritech=2Enet Records from CT=2C MA=2C =26 MI + family lines=3A http=3A//freepages=2Egenealogy=2Erootsweb=2Ecom/=7Ejdevlin/ --Boundary_(ID_1HD8NcyR7RzPXmxIaKNOcA) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain MAPLYMOU-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 82 Today's Topics: #1 [PLY/MA] Bridgewater Deaths S-W & ["Jane Devlin" <janedevlin@ameritec] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from MAPLYMOU-D, send a message to MAPLYMOU-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_1HD8NcyR7RzPXmxIaKNOcA) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 16:19:10 -0400 From: "Jane Devlin" <janedevlin@ameritech.net> To: MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3ECA557E.5101.A4696A6@localhost> Subject: [PLY/MA] Bridgewater Deaths S-W & Middleboro church members 1694-1853 Coralynn Brown has completed her extended project of transcribing the Bridgewater Vital Records to 1850 - the final file, Deaths, S-W surnames, is now on line. YEAH, CORALYNN!!!!.. The series contains thirty-five files with close to 2 MEGS of data - Thanks!! Also, I've transcribed and uploaded the membership roll of the First Church of Middleboro, a total of 1084 members with a number of relationships noted along with where people went when they were dismissed from the church. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/ --Boundary_(ID_1HD8NcyR7RzPXmxIaKNOcA)--

Coralynn Brown has completed her extended project of transcribing the Bridgewater Vital Records to 1850 - the final file, Deaths, S-W surnames, is now on line. YEAH, CORALYNN!!!!.. The series contains thirty-five files with close to 2 MEGS of data - Thanks!! Also, I've transcribed and uploaded the membership roll of the First Church of Middleboro, a total of 1084 members with a number of relationships noted along with where people went when they were dismissed from the church. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

What a fabulous site. Thanks so much for all the hard work you have done for everyone researching family members from this area. Carol Reed Kennedy (researching ASKINS aka ERKSINE) In a message dated 5/18/2003 5:03:00 PM Mountain Daylight Time, MAPLYMOU-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Coralynn Brown has completed the N through R surnames from the > Bridgewater death records up to 1850 and they are now on line. > > Jane Devlin > Lake Orion, MI > janedevlin@ameritech.net > Records from CT, MA, &MI + family lines: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/ >

Coralynn Brown has completed the N through R surnames from the Bridgewater death records up to 1850 and they are now on line. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

Thanks to Coralynn Brown, the Bridgewater, Plymouth Co., death records for the I to M surnames are now on line. Also, I have just uploaded a file with the names of those who joined the Middleboro, Plymouth Co., First Church between 1857 and 1895. The membership roll contains not only relationships, but also dates when members died or transferred to another church. I'll be working next on the earlier membership list that covers the period from 1694 to 1853. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

The H surnames from the Deaths section of the Bridgetown vital records are now on line, thanks to Coralynn Brown. URL below. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

----- Original Message ----- From: "keks" <keks@kc.rr.com> To: <MAPLYMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:53 AM Subject: [PLY/MA] Scituate cemetery question > On the site for History of First Parish of Norwell, Mass., 1642-2000, http://www.gis.net/~fpnma/history.htm#earbeg, I found the following informaton: > "The First Parish of Scituate was established in 1634 and the meeting house was erected on Meeting House Lane just below the old cemetery as you go toward the ocean." > > Can anyone tell me the current name of the cemetery refered to above? Is there a list of the people buried there? > > Thank you, > Kendall Mellem > keks@kc.rr.com > > Kendall To clear a possible confusion. After the First Parish in Scituate a second parish was established in South Scituate. When South Scituate became the separate town of Norwell this church became the First Congregational of Norwell. It is now the First Unitarian of Norwell. This is possibly still the repository of the records of the original records of the Second Congregational of Scituate. To illustrate the early prevalence (sp?) of the Congo churchs - While in grad school in Cambridge (almost 50 yrs ag) I read in the newspapers of the burning (not arson) of a First Baptist Church in Boston. The building had started life as the 14th Congo of Boston! Brian Littlefield Ft. Wayne, IN

I have just uploaded the New Plymouth births transcribed by Claire Dietz and the D-G surnames in the death records from Bridgewater, Coralynn Brown's on-going transcription project. I'd like to thank both of them for their extensive efforts. If anyone is looking for family in Essex Co., I just finished transcribing the Old Cemetery in Bedford, MA, and it is now on line. Jane Devlin Lake Orion, MI janedevlin@ameritech.net Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

On the site for History of First Parish of Norwell, Mass., 1642-2000, http://www.gis.net/~fpnma/history.htm#earbeg, I found the following informaton: "The First Parish of Scituate was established in 1634 and the meeting house was erected on Meeting House Lane just below the old cemetery as you go toward the ocean." Can anyone tell me the current name of the cemetery refered to above? Is there a list of the people buried there? Thank you, Kendall Mellem keks@kc.rr.com

Kendall, The cemetery you are referring to may be the "Men of Kent Cemetery". There is a monument in the cemetery that I believe has a list of names on it. For pictures go to www.21cent.net/scituate and hit the Men of Kent Cemetery link under Miscellaneous. This site also has many pictures of Scituate and a link to maps from the 1940's. For list of names, go to ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ma/plymouth/towns/scituate/cemeteries/meethse.txt Hope this helps. Merry Gonsalves keks <keks@kc.rr.com> wrote:On the site for History of First Parish of Norwell, Mass., 1642-2000, http://www.gis.net/~fpnma/history.htm#earbeg, I found the following informaton: "The First Parish of Scituate was established in 1634 and the meeting house was erected on Meeting House Lane just below the old cemetery as you go toward the ocean." Can anyone tell me the current name of the cemetery refered to above? Is there a list of the people buried there? Thank you, Kendall Mellem keks@kc.rr.com ==== MAPLYMOU Mailing List ==== ====MAPLYMOU-L/D Mail List===== +-+ Owners = List Members +-+ =Administrator Frederick M. Dittmar= ====== fred@dittmar.net ====== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

In a message dated 05/07/2003 4:19:28 PM, DEANJOYCEMCC writes: << I am descended from Anthony Eames, an English immigrant and long a resident of Marshfield, MA, where he died on December 31, 1632. I am interested in whatever information there may be on the Eames family and those related to them by marriage in MARSHFIELD, Autobiography of a Pilgrim Town, to which you refer in your message of May 7. Do you know where I might find a copy. Who was the author and by whom and when was it published? >> Dear Member, Hope you don't mind my replying to the list as I think this may be of interest to others as well. I have two books: MARSHFIELD, A Town of Villages 1640-1990 by Krusell & Bates 1990 Anthony EAMES is listed in the index on six different pages, along with several others by that surname. Found this info on internet: Marshfield A Town of Villages 1640 - 1990, is available at local bookstores, including Jackansons in downtown Marshfield. It is also available from the authors at hramarshfield.home.att.net/marshfield_history.htm The price is $40.00 plus tax (Just a note, z-shops at Amazon.com list this as a rare book and priced at $447. I'd order it from the authors and ask them to autograph it!) You can read more about the book here: http://www.marshfield.net/History/intro.html MARSHFIELD, Autobiography of a Pilgrim Town, 1640-1940 (some water damage) Copyright by Marshfield Historical Commission 1977 "Being an Accounty of three hundred Years of a New England Town; founded by the Pilgrims; lived in and developed by the Royalists; adopted by Daniel Webster & beloved by many of the Ancestors of those who today make it their home. Published by Marshfield Tercentenary Committee, Marshfield, Massachusetts 1940" I have no idea if this book is still available from the Marshfield society, but there are some companies who specialize in re-publishing these old books. My copy is a hardback of about 373 pages, I've had it for many many years and it was damaged in 1988 when my cottage was flooded, but it is still readable and I'll be happy to check the index for your names if you are patient (Like my book I am old and slow!) and I am happy to tell you there are several references for EAMES. Carolyn Pray for our troops, and Remember, you have a friend in Oklahoma!

At 07:42 PM 5/8/2003 -0400, Dotuw1@aol.com wrote: >I have a reference written as GSOMF p. 19. Could someone please tell me >what GSOMF stands for. Janet - The only books I can think of are what I would normally cite as MFIP Soule: John E. Soule, Milton E. Terry and Robert S. Wakefield, "Mayflower Families In Progress: George Soule of the Mayflower and His Descendants for Four Generations" (Plymouth: General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 1st ed. 1992, 2nd ed. 1995, 3rd ed. 1999); or possibly MF3: Anne Borden Harding, ed., "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations ... Volume Three ... George Soule," (Plymouth: General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 1st ed. 1980, 2nd ed. 1991). Dale H. Cook Member, NEHGS USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns Host: http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html