One other comment here, probably not needed considering all of the preceding. If you check http://ma-vitalrecords.org/ , you will find many of the Tan Books transcribed and imaged. Marlborough is one that has been completely transcribed. For those of you who haven't been out there, it's a great site, even though it's only about half complete. Many towns are completely transcribed and imaged, and many others (including Watertown) are in the works. Check it out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Buczek" <john.buczek@comcast.net> To: "'Dora Smith'" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; <mamiddle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Need NEHGS vital records lookups > Dear Dora Smith also tigernut44 > > You stated the following > > "I need to check. Gershom Rice was allegedly born 9 May 1667 in > Marlborough, Massachusetts. But my source gives him no parents. There is > genetic irregularity about some of his sons' descent from his purported > grandfather. > > Can someone please just check and see who the birth or baptism record > lists > as his parents?" > > THIS IS EXACTKY what I provided to you. As for tigernut44's statement > > "There's nothing like asking for one thing, and having EVERYONE decide > what > you really need is something completely different. Maybe he meant to be > helpful in his own way, but that sort of thing never does anything but > ensure that you won't get what you actually needed. > > Totally uncalled for. > > As a resident of Marlborough Massachusetts for the past 50 years and > spending over 7 YEARS generating the Web Site that I sent the link to you, > I > have a fair knowledge of Marlborough's history and the people who first > settled here. > > A person with average curiosity would have scrolled down and found a link > to > return them to the initial page and found more. > > THIS IS NOT MY PERSONAL GENALOGY.. it was prepared in 1861 by a man named > Charles Hudson and both of you would have found this out IF you took the > time. > > My research over the 7 years took me to grave yards, city hall, books and > other places. > > I was asked several years ago to speak before the Rice Association at one > of > their annual meetings held in Marlborough at which I explained my site. I > then took them on a tour of the cemeteries in Marlborough to point out > RICE > gravestones which many took pictures of. It was a great day and the > Association was thank full for what I had done. > > As I write this I have opened before me the TAN BOOK also known as the > Vital > Records of Marlborough Massachusetts to the Year 1850. On page 155 for > Marlborough Births there is listed: > > GERSHOM, s Thomas and Mary, May 9, 1667 > > I remind that you stated "I'm looking specifically for who the town > records > say fathered Gershom allegedly b 1667" > > OBTW, you not being familiar with Massachusetts and their records, the TAN > BOOKS represent those records held by each City and Town in Massachusetts. > > Also, I am a member of the NEHGS and I do not need to go there because > they > have what I have. > > So now I close the book and put it away and also close this message by > saying.... Sorry I was of no help, I will make sure not to respond to any > more of your messages. > > Good luck in your quest > > Sincerely > > John Buczek descendant of William Ward one of the 13 original Proprietors > of > Marlborough along with Edmund Rice > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dora Smith [mailto:tiggernut24@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:56 PM > To: John Buczek; mamiddle@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Need NEHGS vital records lookups > > John, I'm not looknig for what a Rice genealogy says, I'm looking > specifically for who the town records say fathered Gershom allegedly b > 1667. > > The town records are a primary record and should be authoritative on who > fathered Gershom Rice. In the presence of DNA reason to doubt that > Gershom > > was Thomas Rice's son, what a family genealogy says is nothing more than > hearsay. > > I specifically asked for a lookup in the NEHGS town records databases. > Not > > to try to argue you out of knowing what I want better than I do, because I > know that won't work, but I do want to make sure noone else thinks you > provided what I asked for! > > The Rice Assn says he married Elizabeth Balcom, not Elizabeth Haynes. > They > > offered two pieces of proof that Elizabeth was a Balcom. > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > tiggernut24@yahoo.com > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > and the body of the email with no additional text. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
There are some other sites that have wonderful information as well. http://www.rays-place.com/ and http://dunhamwilcox.net/ Both these sites have tremendous amounts of information and are well worth spending a few minutes looking through it. I love John's site as well, but there is some information that John hasn't posted yet on these other sites. Kendra At 08:21 PM 1/27/2010, Jim Leamon wrote: >One other comment here, probably not needed considering all of the >preceding. > >If you check http://ma-vitalrecords.org/ , you will find many of the Tan >Books transcribed and imaged. Marlborough is one that has been completely >transcribed. > >For those of you who haven't been out there, it's a great site, even though >it's only about half complete. Many towns are completely transcribed and >imaged, and many others (including Watertown) are in the works. Check it >out. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Buczek" <john.buczek@comcast.net> >To: "'Dora Smith'" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; <mamiddle@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM >Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Need NEHGS vital records lookups > > > > Dear Dora Smith also tigernut44 > > > > You stated the following > > > > "I need to check. Gershom Rice was allegedly born 9 May 1667 in > > Marlborough, Massachusetts. But my source gives him no parents. There is > > genetic irregularity about some of his sons' descent from his purported > > grandfather. > > > > Can someone please just check and see who the birth or baptism record > > lists > > as his parents?" > > > > THIS IS EXACTKY what I provided to you. As for tigernut44's statement > > > > "There's nothing like asking for one thing, and having EVERYONE decide > > what > > you really need is something completely different. Maybe he meant to be > > helpful in his own way, but that sort of thing never does anything but > > ensure that you won't get what you actually needed. > > > > Totally uncalled for. > > > > As a resident of Marlborough Massachusetts for the past 50 years and > > spending over 7 YEARS generating the Web Site that I sent the link to you, > > I > > have a fair knowledge of Marlborough's history and the people who first > > settled here. > > > > A person with average curiosity would have scrolled down and found a link > > to > > return them to the initial page and found more. > > > > THIS IS NOT MY PERSONAL GENALOGY.. it was prepared in 1861 by a man named > > Charles Hudson and both of you would have found this out IF you took the > > time. > > > > My research over the 7 years took me to grave yards, city hall, books and > > other places. > > > > I was asked several years ago to speak before the Rice Association at one > > of > > their annual meetings held in Marlborough at which I explained my site. I > > then took them on a tour of the cemeteries in Marlborough to point out > > RICE > > gravestones which many took pictures of. It was a great day and the > > Association was thank full for what I had done. > > > > As I write this I have opened before me the TAN BOOK also known as the > > Vital > > Records of Marlborough Massachusetts to the Year 1850. On page 155 for > > Marlborough Births there is listed: > > > > GERSHOM, s Thomas and Mary, May 9, 1667 > > > > I remind that you stated "I'm looking specifically for who the town > > records > > say fathered Gershom allegedly b 1667" > > > > OBTW, you not being familiar with Massachusetts and their records, the TAN > > BOOKS represent those records held by each City and Town in Massachusetts. > > > > Also, I am a member of the NEHGS and I do not need to go there because > > they > > have what I have. > > > > So now I close the book and put it away and also close this message by > > saying.... Sorry I was of no help, I will make sure not to respond to any > > more of your messages. > > > > Good luck in your quest > > > > Sincerely > > > > John Buczek descendant of William Ward one of the 13 original Proprietors > > of > > Marlborough along with Edmund Rice > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dora Smith [mailto:tiggernut24@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:56 PM > > To: John Buczek; mamiddle@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Need NEHGS vital records lookups > > > > John, I'm not looknig for what a Rice genealogy says, I'm looking > > specifically for who the town records say fathered Gershom allegedly b > > 1667. > > > > The town records are a primary record and should be authoritative on who > > fathered Gershom Rice. In the presence of DNA reason to doubt that > > Gershom > > > > was Thomas Rice's son, what a family genealogy says is nothing more than > > hearsay. > > > > I specifically asked for a lookup in the NEHGS town records databases. > > Not > > > > to try to argue you out of knowing what I want better than I do, because I > > know that won't work, but I do want to make sure noone else thinks you > > provided what I asked for! > > > > The Rice Assn says he married Elizabeth Balcom, not Elizabeth Haynes. > > They > > > > offered two pieces of proof that Elizabeth was a Balcom. > > > > Yours, > > Dora Smith > > Austin, TX > > tiggernut24@yahoo.com > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > > and the body of the email with no additional text. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the > subject and the body of the email with no additional text. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There are some other sites that have wonderful information as well. http://www.rays-place.com/ and http://dunhamwilcox.net/ Both these sites have tremendous amounts of information and are well worth spending a few minutes looking through it. I love John's site as well, but there is some information that John hasn't posted yet on these other sites. Kendra At 08:21 PM 1/27/2010, Jim Leamon wrote: >One other comment here, probably not needed considering all of the >preceding. > >If you check http://ma-vitalrecords.org/ , you will find many of the Tan >Books transcribed and imaged. Marlborough is one that has been completely >transcribed. > >For those of you who haven't been out there, it's a great site, even though >it's only about half complete. Many towns are completely transcribed and >imaged, and many others (including Watertown) are in the works. Check it >out. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Buczek" <john.buczek@comcast.net> >To: "'Dora Smith'" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; <mamiddle@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:06 PM >Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Need NEHGS vital records lookups > > > > Dear Dora Smith also tigernut44 > > > > You stated the following > > > > "I need to check. Gershom Rice was allegedly born 9 May 1667 in > > Marlborough, Massachusetts. But my source gives him no parents. There is > > genetic irregularity about some of his sons' descent from his purported > > grandfather. > > > > Can someone please just check and see who the birth or baptism record > > lists > > as his parents?" > > > > THIS IS EXACTKY what I provided to you. As for tigernut44's statement > > > > "There's nothing like asking for one thing, and having EVERYONE decide > > what > > you really need is something completely different. Maybe he meant to be > > helpful in his own way, but that sort of thing never does anything but > > ensure that you won't get what you actually needed. > > > > Totally uncalled for. > > > > As a resident of Marlborough Massachusetts for the past 50 years and > > spending over 7 YEARS generating the Web Site that I sent the link to you, > > I > > have a fair knowledge of Marlborough's history and the people who first > > settled here. > > > > A person with average curiosity would have scrolled down and found a link > > to > > return them to the initial page and found more. > > > > THIS IS NOT MY PERSONAL GENALOGY.. it was prepared in 1861 by a man named > > Charles Hudson and both of you would have found this out IF you took the > > time. > > > > My research over the 7 years took me to grave yards, city hall, books and > > other places. > > > > I was asked several years ago to speak before the Rice Association at one > > of > > their annual meetings held in Marlborough at which I explained my site. I > > then took them on a tour of the cemeteries in Marlborough to point out > > RICE > > gravestones which many took pictures of. It was a great day and the > > Association was thank full for what I had done. > > > > As I write this I have opened before me the TAN BOOK also known as the > > Vital > > Records of Marlborough Massachusetts to the Year 1850. On page 155 for > > Marlborough Births there is listed: > > > > GERSHOM, s Thomas and Mary, May 9, 1667 > > > > I remind that you stated "I'm looking specifically for who the town > > records > > say fathered Gershom allegedly b 1667" > > > > OBTW, you not being familiar with Massachusetts and their records, the TAN > > BOOKS represent those records held by each City and Town in Massachusetts. > > > > Also, I am a member of the NEHGS and I do not need to go there because > > they > > have what I have. > > > > So now I close the book and put it away and also close this message by > > saying.... Sorry I was of no help, I will make sure not to respond to any > > more of your messages. > > > > Good luck in your quest > > > > Sincerely > > > > John Buczek descendant of William Ward one of the 13 original Proprietors > > of > > Marlborough along with Edmund Rice > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dora Smith [mailto:tiggernut24@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:56 PM > > To: John Buczek; mamiddle@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Need NEHGS vital records lookups > > > > John, I'm not looknig for what a Rice genealogy says, I'm looking > > specifically for who the town records say fathered Gershom allegedly b > > 1667. > > > > The town records are a primary record and should be authoritative on who > > fathered Gershom Rice. In the presence of DNA reason to doubt that > > Gershom > > > > was Thomas Rice's son, what a family genealogy says is nothing more than > > hearsay. > > > > I specifically asked for a lookup in the NEHGS town records databases. > > Not > > > > to try to argue you out of knowing what I want better than I do, because I > > know that won't work, but I do want to make sure noone else thinks you > > provided what I asked for! > > > > The Rice Assn says he married Elizabeth Balcom, not Elizabeth Haynes. > > They > > > > offered two pieces of proof that Elizabeth was a Balcom. > > > > Yours, > > Dora Smith > > Austin, TX > > tiggernut24@yahoo.com > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > > and the body of the email with no additional text. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" in the > subject and the body of the email with no additional text. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MAMIDDLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message