Hello, I'm curious if anyone is currently researching the descendants of Edward JOHNSON of 1600's Woburn. And, I'm interested in finding out if anyone knows which JOHNSON families were living in Winchester during the 1800's. I'm particularly interested in what would have been 4 JOHNSON couples living in the "Hill District" of Winchester in 1850. I have been reminded that my ancestor, Jacob HUTCHINSON, had a sister, Maria, who married Francis JOHNSON of Woburn. Winchester became a separate town in 1850, so the couple lived in Winchester at that time. Jacob HUTCHINSON and his brother, Thomas HUTCHINSON, and their other sister, who married William DODGE, were, I believe all living in the "Hill District" of Winchester in 1850. I believe their older brother, John, was in Winchester someplace, and their other sister, who married Gardner SYMMES was there someplace. But, it was right about 1850 when John HUTCHINSON and the DODGE and SYMMES couples moved to Brooklyn, NY, and remained there. I checked census information and in 1860 Francis JOHNSON had a "livery stable" in Winchester with several employees. "Frank" and Maria had 2 children, and seem to have remained in Winchester, with Maria a widow in 1900. I did find a book on the patriarch, Edward, on-line: http://books.google.com/books?id=sx9WAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA172&dq=Edward+Johnson,+Woburn&cd=4# I haven't yet looked to see if he is discussed on other web sites. I checked the archives of the List and the JOHNSON's of Woburn and Winchester have only been mentioned a few times. Betty (near Lowell, MA) FYI: The son, Henry JOHNSON, seems to have remained single until at least 1900. The daughter, Louise, married Warren KNOX, and they might have only had a son, Chester KNOX. In 1880 Warren was a jeweler but in 1900, both he and his son-in-law were "capitalists." By 1920, Warren seems to have remarried and was a treasurer in some company.

_http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/vitalRecordsSearch.aspx_ (http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/vitalRecordsSearch.aspx) Last Name First Name Town Years Volume Page Type Hanson Charles H. Lowell 1869 215 191 Birth ======================================================== Helping a fellow researcher. Hoping this is son of CHARLES H. HANSON. Need all info if it is. Thank you. 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Charles H. Hanson Home in 1880: Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Birthplace: Canada Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Ellen J. Father's birthplace: Canada Mother's birthplace: Canada Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Proprietor Livery Stable Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male HOUSEHOLD: Charles H. Hanson 35 Ellen J. Hanson 34 Charles H. Hanson 10 Julia E. Smith 23 Sewell C. Hill 41 ======================================================= Jacqueline Sleeper Russell _http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jacquelinesr_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jacquelinesr)

Hello, I thought I would start a discussion on how many had a father, grandfather, relative, etc., who was a "delivery person" in Greater Boston in the 1900 to 1940 timeframe. Both my husband and I had grandfathers who were "teamsters." I have an old photo of my grandfather sitting in a truck from probably 1920's or 1930's. The sign on the truck says: "F. KNIGHT & SON, CORP." My husband's grandfather worked for a company in Central Square, Cambridge, where he drove a team of horses pulling a wagon - for delivering. And he was in charge of taking care of the horses in the stable. I had 3 sets of grandparents growing up - because of an early divorce in 1935. My step-grandfather who was a "Grampy" to us was also a truck driver in and out of Boston. And, as I've mentioned before, my great-uncle at Age 9 was hit by a truck when he was playing on a street in Winchester Center. It was Dec. 1916 and it was a 5-ton truck which hit the small boy. He was very nearly killed and no one knew why he survived. The truck driver had to go to court because of the accident. Betty (near Lowell, MA)

My father was born in Maine..in 1906, but his parents weren't taking much care of him and he lived on the streets in Boston/Cambridge in the 1920's to 1925...Then I was born in Cambridge in 1940. My father owned a restaraunt down the street from Central Square from about 1954 to 1965..and I worked in it for a few years part time in 1957 and 1958 before I graduated from Jamaica Plain High and joined the Navy. By the way, my father graduated from Harvard College in abt 1963, the oldest man to ever graduate at that time..and he didn't finish high school as a kid. Paul of San Ysidro/formerly of Boston

Hi Karen, I just did a search and found this on-line book which mentions the company: http://books.google.com/books?id=haHmAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA131&lpg=RA1-PA131&dq=%22Youlden,+Somerville%22&source=bl&ots=sFwUyBUPk6&sig=4UPSesAd2WjB7vpnIittSolv8Y8&hl=en&ei=ug19S-70AsbPlAfr9uWoBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CBsQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=&f=false And it says that the company started out in 1890's and started the company with 2 horses. I can mention that both my (now) husband and I had grandfathers who were "teamsters" in the 1920's-1940 era. In Cambridge, one grandfather both was the wagon driver and he took care of the horses. The other grandfather drove a 1920's era truck, and I have a picture of him with a truck. Actually my step-grandfather, who was just as much a "Grampy" to us (from 1935) drove a truck, both in Somerville and Medford and Boston, etc. I can also mention that there was a RILEY family in Arlington in the 1950's, 1960's. The son was Charles. Betty (near Lowell, MA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Riley" <karen_riley@qwestoffice.net> To: <MAMIDDLE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:29 AM Subject: [MAMiddle] Charles and Estella Riley Hi All Charles Everett Riley was born in Chelsea in 1873. He married Estella Mae, nee Adams and they had three children we know of: Winthrop Adams Riley and Francis Riley. There was an older son who was born with some disability. He was carried around on a board. I'm wondering if it was cerebral palsy. But I don't have any details of him at all. At the time of Charles death on Nov. 29th 1924 the family were living at 14 Boston Street, Sommerville. Charles was employed at Youlden, Smith and Hopkins as a Stableman. Can anyone tell me anything about this business?? Karen and Steve Riley Idaho

Hi All Charles Everett Riley was born in Chelsea in 1873. He married Estella Mae, nee Adams and they had three children we know of: Winthrop Adams Riley and Francis Riley. There was an older son who was born with some disability. He was carried around on a board. I'm wondering if it was cerebral palsy. But I don't have any details of him at all. At the time of Charles death on Nov. 29th 1924 the family were living at 14 Boston Street, Sommerville. Charles was employed at Youlden, Smith and Hopkins as a Stableman. Can anyone tell me anything about this business?? Many Thanks Karen and Steve Riley Idaho

Good Afternoon, Today I want to share with the group(s) a newspaper article I found while researching the Bath (Maine) schooner "James S. Lowell", captained by Captain Freeman Reed, of Boothbay. The incident is a well-known sinking of the USS Tallapoosa, after being struck by the James S. Lowell, near Martha's Vineyard. This account was published in the St. Paul Globe, St. Paul, Minnesota, August 23, 1884. It fives a detailed account of the incident, as well as many names. I am researching the James S. Lowell, and am primarily interested, right now, in finding details of the loss of the Lowell, reportedly in 1889 in the North Atlantic, along with Captain Freeman Reed. If anyone has any information on that incident, I would be greatly appreciative. Thank-you for your time, -David Reed The Greater Swanville Metroplex, Waldo County, Maine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- The St. Paul Daily Globe Saturday Morning, August 23, 1884 Page 4 CHANDLER'S YACHT SUNK The U.S. Naval Steamer Tallapoosa Sunk in a Collision, Said to Have Been Caused by a Wrong Order to the Helmsman Secretary Chandler Not on Board - Four Men Missing - Personal Effects Lost The Vessel Can Be Raised and a Fat Job Provided in Repairing Her --- College City, Mass., August 22 - The United States steamship Tallapoosa sank off this coast last night. The survivors landed at Woodsholl [Woodshole]. She collided with a three masted schooner and lies with the mainmast and the top of the smokestack out of water. It is reported eight lives were lost by the disaster. THE PARTICULARS Boston, Aug. 22. - The facts of the sinking of the Tallapoosa are as follows. The Tallapoosa, with 190 men and officers, was bound to Newport to take on board Secretary Chandler. At 11 o'clock last night, during a thick fog, three miles east of Oak Bluffs, Martha's Vineyard, she was struck in the bow by the schooner James S. Lowell, of Bath, Capt. Reed, from Baltimore for Portland, with a cargo of coal. Her side was crushed in and she sank in five minutes in ten fathoms of water. As she went down her whistle was blown as a signal of distress and heard by the steamer Gate City, which came to her assistance and rescued the crew with the exception of the surgeon and one man who are said to be missing. The Gate City blew a whistle and the steamer Fish-hawk, lying at the wharf at Woodsholl, sent her steam launch. The Gate City lay to until 3 o'clock transferring the crew to the launch. They all landed at Woodsholl. The Tallapoosa lies on what is known as Smash meadow. The smoke stack only is visible. The schooner Jas. S. Lowell has aboard several of the Tallapoosa passengers. HOW IT HAPPENED Capt. Reed, of the schooner James S. Lowell, states that he was passing through the sound last night with a strong southwest wind, all said set and was going at nine knots. The night was clear but dark. When two miles away the lookout reported a light ahead. Shortly it was seen to be a red light, and he said, speaking to the wheelman, "Red, Lord keep her straight!" I stood near the wheel during all the time and the course was not altered until word came that the green light could be seen to avoid collision, seeing the steamer was doing nothing to avoid us, I ordered the helm dropped head down, but before it could be done, and before my vessel had altered her course at all, the two vessels struck each other, their sterns seemingly coming together exactly. Our vessel's stern glanced by the Tallapoosa's and penetrated her hull. After the vessels stopped the steamer swung round along side of the Lowell and her crew might have jumped on board, but it was not then known what was the condition of either vessel. After getting my family into the boat I examined my vessel and found she was leaking quite badly, though not in immediate danger of sinking. The Tallapoosa drifted away from us and sank within ten minutes, before many of the officers and crew had left her. As she went down those who could do so took to the rigging, and were taken off later. The schooner Mary A. Wood came along and assisted in saving crew, and later the steamer Gate City was signaled and came to our assistance. After all who were saved had been transferred she steamed away to Woodsholl. Our vessel was badly damaged, the stern being started and the wood ends injured. She made twenty-one inches of water in a short time. We were under way proceeding to Vineyard Haven." Touching the collision, Captain Read says: "It is the most careless piece of work I ever saw. The night was clear and the lights of the Lowell were burning all night and were perfectly visible a long distance. NEGLIGENCE OF THE OFFICERS There was some difficulty in obtaining the story of the steamer's officer, her executive officer, to whom the reporters were referred, declining to make any statement. One of the men on the look out of the steamer says he saw the schooner's light fifteen minutes before the collision, and reported the fact. Several of the crew of the steamer acknowledged the steamer to be at fault, and admitted that the schooner was steering south-east by south, and the steamer in exactly the opposite direction, with the sailing vessel having the right of way by law. many men were in the water, being fished up an hour after the sinking of the vessel. Numerous wrecking schooners and teh steamers Fish Hawk and Verbena are cruising about the sound in the vicinity, seeking to secure bodies of the drowned and any wreckage. THE MISSING Washington, Aug. 22. - The names of the missing from the Tallapoosa are: Past Assistant Surgeon Clarence E. Black and Geo. [George] E. Foster, a landsman. Some of Secretary Chandler's personal effects were in the vessel when she sank. ANOTHER ACCOUNT Boston, Aug. 22 - Paymaster Tarbell, who was a passenger on the Tallapoosa, says: "It was about 10 o'clock when the schooner struck. I was abed, and supposed she had gone aground. Some one called down the companionway, "All hands abandon the ship!" The men rushed on the deck, but there was no excitement. The officers and men were very cool. A few who were near the bow jumped overboard, but most of us took the boats. As soon as we were clear from the ship we could see the result of the collision. We were in channel and the schooner had struck us square on the starboard side by the foremast. The schooner's bow cut halfway through the ship, tearing a terrible hole inside, through which the water was rushing. The foremast was cut away and the schooner's bow shattered. The Tallapoosa sank in ten minutes. All that can be seen of her now is about half her smoke stack. She sank bow first, and there was no time to save anything. We had to leave just as we turned out of bed. The schooner sent boats to help pick up those in the water and to tender any assistance necessary. Another schooner also came up, and took part of the men, while the remainder went on board the schooner that run us down. She was leaking badly the captain was afraid he could not keep her above water. The water was gaining on him, so our men took turns at the pumps until he could get the steam pumps working. After that he was all right. The Gate City came up in a few minutes, and took the Tallapoosa's crew. Our men were destitute of clothes, but their wants were supplied by the officers and men. When we were together and the roll was called, and we found two men were missing. Dr. Black, the surgeon, and one of the men did not answer. They were probably drowned. No one saw them go down. When last seen Dr. Black was afloat on a rail preparing to jump. Coolness of officers and men accounts for the small loss of life. The captain told me that every boats crew was at their place, and the men went to the boats assigned them. It was rather amusing in spite of our serious situation, to see the negroes go for life preservers. They were the only ones really scared. When we reached Woodsholl, we were transferred to the Fishhawk and then to the shore. The Fishhawk at once left for the wreck. The saddest part of the accident was the loss of those men. We did not suffer any for it was a warm night. I don't know anything as to the cause of the collision. Commander Merry was on deck at the time. The captain of the schooner did not offer any explanation at the time. I was talking with him. LIEUTENANT EVERETT SPEAKS Boston, Aug. 22. - Lieut. William H. Everett, executive officer, ensign William B. Whittles, and Mate Hugh Kuhl with 100 men from the wrecked Tallapoosa arrived to-night at the navy yard, where they go upon waiting orders. Lieut. Everett says he believed the Tallapoosa did act in a manner to avoid the line water over which the schooner would cover. He was on deck at the time of the collision, but from conversation he has had since he feels convinced that the steamer was in the right. "The vessels," he says, "were coming in diametrically opposite directions. The head of the schooner should have kept straight, and we should have passed to one side of her; but it would seem as though the officers in charge of the schooner were afraid we would not alter our course, and turned their vessel's head from the proper course. Not it is a perfectly easy thing to avoid a fixed point, but when that point keeps bobbing around there is no telling what to do. The very way the schooner struck us would indicated that she had changed her course, coming as she did full head into us, instead of grazing along the side." WHAT THE SAILORS SAY Statements of others of the Tallapoosa, however, would tend to show that a different set of movements were followed. The general opinion among the sailors is that the schooner was moving in such a way as to leave the Tallapoosa the option of passing astern or across her bows. The Tallapoosa chose the latter course, and in endeavoring to glide in front was run into by the schooner. Says a sailor, who claims to have been in the pilot house at the time of the disaster: "The captain, navigator, and mate saw the lights of the schooner, but disputed whether it was a green or a red light, and finally the captain exclaimed: "Well, do something; turn her one way or the other, "and then we struck." one of the men at the wheel declares that "they gave order hard a-starboard when it ought to have been hard a-port." Whereever the fault rested, certain it is that the schooner plunged full head into the Tallapoosa on the starboard bow, and cut clear through the timbers of the vessel, opening an immense hold for water to pour in. About sixteen men were on the deck of the government boat with the watch, but according to the statements of several of the watch, they and most of their comrades were asleep forward. The men of the crew below were rudely awakened by a terrific shock, and sprang hastily from their hammocks. The water flooded both decks, and instantly the sailars abandoned everything and rushed on the deck through the debris. There they found confusing noises resounding, so as to drown all words of the officers, caused by the escaping steam through the whistle. The steam was quickly cut off and then the only order of the hour was heard: "Man the boats - abandon ship." There was no confusion, but a great deal of haste. Some twenty or thirty men took to the water instead of the boats. All of this happened in a little over five minutes. The Tallapoosa had already begun to settle, and in a few minutes her hull was completely submerged. Not one of the head officers had left the craft. Captain Merry, Lieutenant Everett, Engineer Towne, Master Mechanic Steever and Walker, and four sailors took to the rigging, surmising the depth of the water was not sufficient to submerge the maintop. Ensign Whittesey and Mate Gallagher clung to the ridge rope. The schooner in the collision had stood by to aid the boats, and boats made to her as well as to a second schooner, the Mary A. Hood, which hove to in response to calls for help. Having placed the men on board, the boats returned and took the sailors floating in the water, and rescued the others from the rigging. Capt. Merry was the last man to leave his vessel, and Lieut. Everette left only just before him. No attempt was made to save personal effects. The men were later transferred to the steamer Gate City, of Boston, for Savannah, which brought them to Woodsholl. The men reached here this evening, Capt. Merry remaining with a few seamen at Woodsholl. Four men were reported lost, but of these only one was drowned. The man lost was a colored saloon hand named George Foster, belonging in Norfolk, Virginia. He had quickly seized a life preserver, and rushing to the hurricane deck threw himself, preserver in hand, over the stern. His body struck upon the monkey rail, and he was probably instantly killed, for the preserver floated, but the body was not to be seen. The other two missing men are William O'Donnell, a seaman, of Boston, and W.E. Jones, a landsman, of Wilmington. It is confidently believed they have stowed themselves away in the Gate City. Several of the sailors declare they saw Jones upon the Gate City. A few of the sailors were also injured by the falling spars and by slipping down the chains, but none seriously. The carpenter's mate, Chas. [Charles] Carlson, who went to the surgeon even when the ship was sinking, to secure treatment, was seriously injured while lying in his hammock on the berth deck, by a falling mast. His wounds are on the hand and leg. EXAMINING THE WRECK Said Executive Officer Everett: "Friday morning we went out to look at the wreck. We found only a portion of her mainmast and smokestack above the water. I think she can be raised. She is worth it. The launch, we found, had been removed from its anchorage, and we soon discovered a little schooner making off with the boat as booty. We gave chase and got it back." Lieut. Everret strongly denies the statement that the Tallapoosa had acquired an unfavorable reputation in maritime circles and says: "I never heard her called "old calamity," and I have always considered her reputation very good. She never had any serious accidents, the accident with a schooner a year or two ago being excusable. THE SPEED Master Mechanic Steever was in charge of the engine at the time of the disaster. He says they were going at nine or ten knots an hour at the time, the regular rate being twelve to fourteen. Only one boiler was in operation. They kept on at this rate until two minutes after the collision. Two bells were rung and I slackened speed. Immediately the water began to pour into the room, and he was obliged to rush out. It was exactly 11:10 p.m. when they first were struck. He went to the rigging with the captain and others. Boats made off for the schooner, each looking after himself. Captain Merry hailed them, and afterward the barge for the captain and lieutenant. he found that the general opinion is the Tallapoosa attempted to cross the schooner's bow, and got run down. The Tallapoosa, in his opinion, was a splendid boat. WHAT THE MATE SAYS Mate Kuhl says: "My state room was abaft where the schooner struck. I rushed on deck and heard some one groaning beside a fallen spar. I turned to look for the man, but then heard the order to abandon the ship, and hurried to my boat. We picked up all those floating that we could, and pulled to the schooner in the collision. I staid on that vessel with seven men, after others were taken on the Gate city, to help if necessary. We found the Lowell's wood end sprung and leaking a little, so we patched it up with bakum. She was not badly injured. The light house inspector has placed a new buoy over the wreck of the Tallapoosa in nine and one-half fathons of water. THE PAYMASTER'S VERSION Cottage City, Mass., Aug. 22. - Paymaster Tiffany, of the Tallapoosa, came here swimming. He says he was asleep when the collision occured, and on reaching the deck learned the steamer was sinking. He took his station for a time, and finding his presence there of no avail he went below, hurridly collected a few valuables, and returned to the deck just in time to dive through the stern part as the ship settled into the water. After swimming about for a time he discovered the lights by which he knew his position. He swam to the steam launch and got into it. he was subsequently taken off by the schooner boat. From his conversation it would appear that the officers of the Tallapoosa on deck at the time of the collision dispute the claim of the schooner's captain, that he did not change his course.

Greetings, Just an update on repair of the NEHGS Massachusetts Vital Records 1841-1910 on-line database. Sam has just added two images. First was for 1886 Framingham marriage, vol 371 pg 106, and the second was for 1886 Lowell marriages vol 371 pg 141. If you have queried for these recently and they came up with no image, clear your cache (temp files), and you can view them now. Sue Richart

OSTERMAN, Elsie (FRABOTTA); 80; Palmer MA; Acton Beacon; 2010-2-11; dja LONG, Kathleen (ALBRECHT); 83; Manchester CT; Acton Beacon (MA); 2010-2-11; dja Dennis Ahern Acton Mass. History & Genealogy at http://www.rootsweb.com/~macacton/ Acton Mailing List at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MA/middlesex.html

Hi Dennis. Just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't, my next oldest brother, Herb Nichols also lives in Acton...and he's an expert geneaologist. Paul (Nichols)..San Ysidro, Ca

Hello Listers: <dougvbrown calling from MA> A.- Old Business #1.- My understanding,now, from the Bob Carroll and DougvBrown recent reports on this mamiddle@rootsweb.com list <see Vol 5 -26 and 28 > that Bond's <circa 1850 > SEESAY of Mary Browne dob and parentage had contradictions. #2- My understanding of Bond's 1850 SEESAY copy of the Watertown town clerk's HEARSAY copy of the Informer's 1650 SEESAY of Mary Browne Birth: ABT 1630 in Hawkedon, ENG and Married: 10 APR 1650 -John Lewis b: ABT 1610 in WALES and Mary Browne parentage Father: Abraham Browne b: ABT 1585 in Hawkedon, Suffolk, ENG. Mother: Lydia Unknown b: ABT 1600 in ENG .........<see Note 1 below> #3-My understanding of Bond's 1850 SEESAY copy of the English town clerk's HEARSAY copy of of the Informer's 1624/25 SEESAY of Mary Browne dob and parentage b1624/25 dau of Abraham and Joan Shelton -Joan died 1628 ENG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~NOTE ONE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Note 1 to understand the 1850 Middlesex town fathers < VR's to about 1849 dilemma > see the New England Historical and Genealogy Society ( NEHGS -Boston ) PREFACE to the Malden MA VR's to about 1849 THE GREAT VR's to 1849 PHASE OUT BEGINS - Malden,MA Mayor Farnum and Historian DP COREY Report 1908 B.- New Business #1.- The Malden, MA Historian DP COREY 1908 Report ONLINE at John Slaughter's SEESAY copy of the New England Historical and Genealogy Society ( NEHGS -Boston ) PREFACE to the Malden MA VR's to about 1849 PLEASE READ "Saved me a lot of angst in family tree searchs" --dougvbrown GO TO:: http://ma-vitalrecords.org/ Step #1- CLICK ON TOWNS >> TO NEXT PAGE Step#2- SCROLL DOWN TO MIDDLESEX CO towns AND DOUBLE CLICK ON MALDEN >> TO NEXT PAGE Step#3-CLICK ANY BMD NAME GROUP >>TO NEXT PAGE Step#4= GO TO COLUUMN TO RIGHT OF SURNAME DATA AND CLICK ABBREVS, AGAIN IF NEEDED, >>to NEXT PAGE Step#5-TOP OF PAGE, EXPLANATION, CLICK THE PREFACE >> TO NEXT PAGE Step#6 READ the SOURCES OF MOST VR's DATA CONTRADICTIONS AND MR EMERY'S "SAVE THE UNREADABLE" INVENTION USED TODAY WOW dougvbrown files- 100209

Checked the list archives - last post was yesterday: From: Douglas V Brown < _dougvbrown@gmail.com_ (mailto:dougvbrown@gmail.com) > Subject: [MAMiddle] Mary Browne m. John Lewis 1650 Watertown Middlesex Co.MA -Bond Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:59:35 -0500 Jacqueline Sleeper Russell _http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jacquelinesr_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jacquelinesr) In a message dated 2/11/2010 10:39:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, edd73@embarqmail.com writes: Are servers down, as I'm not getting any mail from any lists Edd73@embarqmail.com

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Betty wrote: > A member of the Chelmsford Genealogy Club just offered this information to > its members. It's about events coming up at the library in Andover, MA. > > http://www.mhl.org:80/about/events/hall/2010/genealogy.htm > > One of the lectures is about "Researching Civil War Genealogy." See http://world.std.com/~ahern/cwflyer.pdf for details. -dja

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Hellow Listers: <dougvbrown calling from MA> I think that Bob Carroll has helped me solve some of my own bad habits bear with me , there is a happy ending............................... MAMIDDLE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 26 - Message: 2 Date: February 6, 2010 03:00:10 AM EST On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Bob Carroll <bob@shipstore.com> wrote: of his POSITIVE and NEGATIVE findings of the Browne - Lewis Lines My ,doug, understanding of Bob's POSITIVE finding of Mary Browne's dob,pob,and parentage was from: #1.-the Great Migration Begins by Anderson 's, <1995> SEESAY copy of........ #2.- .......the New England Historical and Genealogy Society(NEHGS) 's <1900-1930 >SEESAY copy of.... #3.-............ the Henry Bond;'s <1850> SEESAY copy of...... #4- .............the overseas England township clerk's <1625>HEARSAY copy of.................. #5-.......... the Abraham Browne's or an Informant's <1625> SEESAY of family births/marriages and deaths Bob's <2010> SEESAY copy--Mary Browne , b. 1623/4 dau of Abraham and Joan Shelton who died 1628 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My ,doug, understanding of Bob's NEGATIVE finding of Mary Browne's dob,pob dom,pom,and parentage was from: #1- http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? op=DESC&db=dpbender&id=I0871 or some other roots file. copy of <NOT LISTED>........ but this...Mary Browne data ID: I0872 Name: Mary Browne Sex: F Birth: ABT 1630 in Hawkedon, ENG Death: AFT 1667 Father: Abraham Browne b: ABT 1585 in Hawkedon, Suffolk, ENG. Mother: Lydia Unknown b: ABT 1600 in ENG Marriage 1 John Lewis b: ABT 1610 in WALES Married: 10 APR 1650 in Watertown, Middlesex, MA Children Mary Lewis b: JAN 1653 in Malden, MA Bob above left the page ...doug stayed on to click on to Abraham Browne and VOILA!!! A SOURCE ID-I0873 Name: Abraham Browne Sex: M Birth: ABT 1585 in Hawkedon, Suffolk, ENG. Death: 1650 in Watertown, Middlesex, MA 1 Emigration: 1630 Winthrop Fleet Father: Thomas Browne b: in Swan Hall, Hawkedon, Suffolk, ENG Mother: Joan Unknown b: ABT 1530 in Stamford, ENG Marriage 1 Lydia Unknown b: ABT 1600 in ENG Married: ABT 1620 in Hawkedon, Suffolk, ENG Children Mary Browne b: ABT 1630 in Hawkedon, ENG Sources: "Genealogy and History of Watertown, Mass.," by Bond gives entire Browne history My,doug POSITIVE findings then are as follows xee note below #1- above ROOTS FILE <1995> SEESAY copy of... #2.- .......the New England Historical and Genealogy Society(NEHGS) 's <1900-1930 >SEESAY copy of.... #3.-............ the Henry Bond;'s <1850> SEESAY copy of............. #4-..........the Watertown MA town clerk's <1849> SEESAY copy of .......... #5-.......the Watertown MA original town clerk's.<1650> HEARSAY copy of................. #6....... Mary Browne Lewis or hus John, Informant SEESAY Note to understand the feed in data errors see Malden MA VR's to 1849 PREFACE Mayor Farnum and DP COREY -- 1908 The Great VR's PHASE OUT of 1850 dougvbrown files -100209 .

Hello, A member of the Chelmsford Genealogy Club just offered this information to its members. It's about events coming up at the library in Andover, MA. http://www.mhl.org:80/about/events/hall/2010/genealogy.htm One of the lectures is about "Researching Civil War Genealogy." Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. Someone on one of the Lists for England just asked for help with the 1880 census about the family that the actor, W. C. Fields," came from. His original surname was DUKENFIELDS and I looked it up. The family was in PA from ~1860 (or before) and were there till past 1910. I found some web pages offering a biography of W. C. Fields, and one of them said that his father, James DUKENFIELDS, fought in the Civil War and was injured. James had been born in England, and one sight said that his family migrated to PA when he was a teen.

Hi again, I'd like to add that "Stanley" and Mary LEWIS had been born ~1860 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England. And they and "over 100,000" other unwanted children became part of the U.K.'s "Child Migration Scheme." At Age 14, they were "shipped to Canada." They went to different families in Nova Scotia and were married there in 1879. They migrated to MA in 1881 and raised their .13. children in Stoneham. * In Canada the children arriving there between 1860's and 1930's were referred to as "British Home Children." After years of trying to make this happen, the government has just declared: "2010, the Year of the British Home Child." And I and others on the BHC List are trying to "spread the word." I'd like to add that Mary came over with 4 younger siblings, Julia, Esther, John, and Robert CORKILL, the youngest were 5 and 3 when they arrived. In addition to trying to find descendants of the LEWIS siblings, I have been trying to find descendants of Mrs. Julia McNUTT in Nova Scotia, and Mrs. Esther COFFIN on Nantucket. I had heard from 2 descendants of Julia 4 yrs. ago, but have not heard from them since. Just last fall I heard from a descendant of Esther. They had an older brother who went directly to Vancouver, B.C., Canada in 1873. I've been corresponding with his descendant for several years. The 2 younger brothers did not have descendants; John married later in life and did not have children, and Robert CORKILL never married; both remained in Nova Scotia and lived until at least Age 60. I have just received some new information on the CORKILL siblings, and, when I can summarize it, I will send that information to the 2 ladies I'm corresponding with. And to the LEWIS descendants if they are interested. * .. I have corresponded with the Stoneham Historical Society for ~5 years and they have offered me information on the LEWIS family and where they lived, etc. But, my great-grandfather had a "printing shop" in Stoneham, and started up .2. independent newspapers in Stoneham ~1888. I have asked the Society for information on the printing shop and they said they will send me information next week. (One of the newspapers still exists.) (They have had problems with their web site for over over a year, and probably need help with it.) That's all I'll say for today. Oh, I could mention that I've read that my grandfather was a well-liked man in Stoneham, and he must have been well-liked at home. His name has come down for 3 or 4 generations. Oh, I could also mention that ~5 years ago a lady in Canada sent me a group of "old photos" about this LEWIS family. Between those and photos we have, I have photos of this family that I am sharing with my "distant cousins." Betty (near Lowell, MA) (There is more information in the archives of the Lists.) (I started up a CORKILL List last year. There are many variations on the spellings. My great-grandmother was shown to have the CORKHILL spelling in some records. That is a name from the Isle of Man in the U.K.)

Hello, It was probably 3 years ago when I started gathering information on 13 LEWIS siblings growing up in Stoneham, and then starting to type up a report on them. Each year I post queries and do more searching trying to find more information and try to find descendants. With a little luck, I have found a descendant of 6 of the siblings, and I have indirect contact with a descendant of a 7th. Discounting my grandfather, I have 4 siblings that I need more information on. I also discount the oldest, "Will" LEWIS in Lynn as his only child, a daughter never had children. In order of birth, I need help with: Edward Charles LEWIS, b1883 MA. In 1910, he married Maud Von DREATHEN in Stoneham. They might have had a child, son, Ernest LEWIS, 5 in 1920. But my sister found a note that he had a son, Edward, and either he or the family moved to CA. That's about all I know about him. Francis Lester LEWIS, b1887 MA. "Frank" seems to have married a woman, named "Bessie." They might have had 2 children, Dorothy, and John around 1910. But, Frank died of a heart condition around 1913 (age 26). There are other Francis or Frank LEWIS' in census reports, so I don't know if one of them was this Frank. And, I don't know what happened to his widow, Mrs. Bessie (?) LEWIS, and her 2 young children. Henrietta "Etta" LEWIS, b1889 MA married William HUBER. They lived in Cambridge, and William was in the Army when they first married and he lived on the "Base." In 1910 they had an infant son, William H. HUBER, and they lived in Boston. In 1920, they had 2 more children, Henrietta HUBER, 8, and John S. HUBER, 6. "Etta" seems to have remained close to her HUBER in-laws, but I don't know where they lived after 1910. (I haven't asked about the 1930.) Isabella Burrows LEWIS was born 1890 MA and "Bella" married William PHELAN. I think this couple also lived in Lynn. They might have had 4 children, but possibly their first died as an infant. The 1920 census had William and "Bella" in Lynn with an infant daughter, Dorothy PHELAN. I don't know if it was this baby who died, as someone told me that the 1930 census had William living in Lynn as a widower, and he had a daughter, Laura PHELAN, 9, a daughter, Gertrude PHELAN, 7, and a son, William, 5. I had already known that "Bella" had died in childbirth with her 3rd child. (Possibly the 3rd living child.) (I don't know if this is the same family.) .. Two of the "cousins" wrote to me last week complaining that I had never sent them a copy of the "LEWIS report" I had somewhat finished last summer. So, I spent a lot of time this week making copies of my report and mailing out to 6 of the "cousins." But, I've felt badly since last summer that I've never found the time to "add" more information, or correct what information I had. So, IF I can find more information, I will send that out to them during March. The 13 children were the parents of John "Stanley" and Mary Eliza beth (CORKILL) LEWIS, who arrived in Stoneham ~1881 and lived there until they both died in 1923 and 1924. The other children were: Mrs. Mary "May" GREEN in Saugus, also with many children. Mrs. Emily WING in Melrose with 3 children. Arthur LEWIS who moved to Sandwich, NH, and Laconia, NH, and had several children. Mrs. Blanche JOYCE lived in Winchester and had several children. Mrs. Helen TALMADGE married a man from NJ and lived there for a few years before moving to Gardena, CA; she had a few children. Silas Dean LEWIS had 3 children with his first wife; they divorced and both remarried. "Sy" had 4 step-children with the 2nd wife and 4 step-children with a 3rd wife. He had moved to both CT and then Springfield. Mrs. Louise CHASE lived in Winchester and had several children. John S. LEWIS moved to Gardena, CA, after his parents' deaths, and married out there and had several children. Betty (near Lowell, MA)

On Feb 5, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Douglas V Brown wrote: > and I, found this web page..........>>>>>>>>>>copy/paste for direct > connect to Lewis Tree > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? > op=DESC&db=dpbender&id=I0871 > WOW.. theJohn Lewis Tree chart, with links to 10 Lewis generations > a link to John Lewis m. Mary Browne in Watertown Middlesex Co,MA . > google search now for Bond's- Watertown,MA -NEHGS Boston VR'to 1849 Unfortunately, the above rootsweb site has no sources for this line. Also in the first two generations it has conflicts in dates, parentage and places with some pretty reliable sources. For example, Great Migration Begins by Anderson, has sketch of Abraham Browne. His dau Mary, b 1623/4 in both Anderson and Bond's Watertown is cited as by first wife Joan Shelton, who died 1628, not by second wife Lydia as cited in the roots file. On the positive side, a quick check of some other families in the file, such as the Potter line, a few sources are given, and the lines and events agree with my own files. Regards, Bob Bob & Dee Carroll. Westport, NY, on Lake Champlain Relations of Bob & Dee http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rcarroll

Hello Listers: <dougvbrown calling from MA> I followed GAIL's < claudine848@gmail.com> help to CHARLES <uncle1013@shaw.ca> and I, found this web page..........>>>>>>>>>>copy/paste for direct connect to Lewis Tree http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? op=DESC&db=dpbender&id=I0871 WOW.. theJohn Lewis Tree chart, with links to 10 Lewis generations a link to John Lewis m. Mary Browne in Watertown Middlesex Co,MA which leads me to a google search now for Bond's- Watertown,MA -NEHGS Boston VR'to 1849 John Lewis Thanks to Charles and Gail for using mamiddle@rootsweb.com DOUG BREVITY IS THE SOUL OF WIT -Shakespeare Hamlet 100205-dvb files