McKENZIE / MILLER ~ O'NEIL ~ SULLIVAN ~ SHEEHAN ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ IRISH BLESSING - May your troubles be less, your blessings be more, and nothing but happiness comes through your door ! Greetings & G'day All Listers , Hope things are going well. " Wishing YOU all a great and enjoyable ST. PADDY's DAY." Good luck with your family search. All the best. Genealogy yours , Walt Grandpa Scotch-Ulster-Irish McKenzie, Sr. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Central NJ Shore* ~ Boston North Shore ~ USAmerica 1973-Present NH & Maine Coasts Boston/Somerville** Area, MA 1872-1972 Search priorities : Ire ~ Eng ~ Scot ~ USA 1681-1895 1873-1907 To 1680 1872-1955 www.remember-9-11.com WaltIrish1@comcast.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God Bless Ireland & America -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *The marvelous Central NJ Shore area, like Boston, has wonderful Ire & Scot roots. The first St. Patrick's holiday was declared 3 / 17 / 1780 by General Washington in Morristown,NJ. On the evening of March 16, 1776 Gen. Washington appointed a Bgde. General named John SULLIVAN "General Officer of the Day", and the password was St. Patrick. e.g. via U.S. National Archives . . . 246th Headquarters, Morris Town. Order for the Day, 3/16/1780 by General George Washington. To recognize the inhabitants of that country (Ireland) to remove the heavy and tyrannical oppression on their rights and freedoms, to recognize these brave and generous people in fighting again for those most noble principles to promote the Cause of America, the following day, ST. Patrick's Day, is declared a holiday for all troops. Also, Spring Lake, NJ population was 53% of Irish descent followed by Avon & Sea Girt. Then there is the large annual Belmar, NJ St. Patty's Day parade. Today overall, NJ has 1.4 million or 18% of the population claiming to be of Irish descent. Note : In the NE US people don't hesitate to ask or state their of Irish descent. Once you pass into Virginia further South, no one ever mentions their Irish. **Middlesex Co. with 400,000 of Irish descent. At the beginning of the 1700's (18th century), Boston (pop. 7,000) was the largest city in America (pop. 250,000). This was the world Ben Franklin was born into in 1706. By the time he died in 1790, the newly independent USA was a far different place, one he had a hand in shaping. Due to immigration, after the 1840's Ireland famine, over 33%of Boston's population were Irish. By 1900 over 40% were Irish. In 2000, MA was 19.5% Irish, Boston 16% with the So. Shore now 35+% of Irish descent. So. Boston, was the areas 20th century Irish community. Due to immigration, after the 1840's Ireland famine, over 33% of Boston's population were Irish. By 1900 over 40% were Irish. In 2000, MA was 19.5% Irish, Boston 16% with the So. Shore now 35+% of Irish descent : Ireland 7 million America 50 million~Britain 8 million~Australia 3 million Canada ? million

Somewhere I read that if the 'death benefit' wasn't claimed then the person would not be on the list. I can't confirm that because I don't remember where I saw it. Irene >From: "David C. Richardson" <chuck.richardson@mindspring.com> >To: MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Re: SSDI FAQ >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:03:57 -0500 > > They probably were but I'm sure the 1960 was before computerized >automation and perhaps the 1967 as well. somewhere Roots web did have a >blurb on the origins of SSDI which had the details. I'm working from >memory and those details are a bit foggy. > >Betty wrote: >>Hi David, >> >>My grandparents from Somerville and Medford, but who spent their last >>years in Arlington died in 1960 and in 1967, and neither one of them are >>listed in the SSDI ! >> >>My grandfather was 72 and my grandmother was 78, and I'm pretty sure they >>were collecting Social Security checks. >> >>Betty (near Lowell, MA) >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "David C. Richardson" >><chuck.richardson@mindspring.com> >>To: <MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:04 PM >>Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Re: SSDI FAQ >> >> >>> There are a couple of things which can affect SSDI. If the diciest >>>was not collecting Social Security at the time of death they may not be >>>listed. The Computerized system was not instituted until the mid 60s so >>>if If the diciest died before computerization they may not be listed. >>> >>>bostonlew@aol.com wrote: >>>>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>> >>>>Classification: Query >>>> >>>>Message Board URL: >>>> >>>>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1732.1.1.1.1 >>>> >>>>Message Board Post: Doug, >>>> >>>>Glad you got your info. >>>> >>>>RE: SSDI - it's all a big mystery. I'm sure there's some fuzzy logic >>>>there about what they do but I'd bet good money even the SS people don't >>>>know. >>>> >>>>BTW, I love your Mary's name: Mary Merry. She must have taken a >>>>razzing about that but it's soooo cute. At least she married into it; >>>>her mother didn't play a cruel trick on her. I worked with a guy named >>>>Charles O. Charles. Never could figure out what his parents were >>>>thinking..... >>>> >>>>Have fun! >>>> >>>> >>>>============================== >>>>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>>>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

No one claimed my father's 'death benefit'. He is not listed on the SSDI. When I contacted Social Security they indicated that there is a time period of two years during which the death benefit may be claimed. There was nothing I could do to get his name on the SSDI which is not based totally on whether or not the death benefit was claimed... Anyway, I was beyond the time limit for collecting the benefit (having called many years after his death). Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "IRENE LANDENBERGER" <landen2@msn.com> To: <MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MAMiddle] Re: SSDI FAQ | Somewhere I read that if the 'death benefit' wasn't claimed then the person | would not be on the list. I can't confirm that because I don't remember | where I saw it. Irene |

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1777 Message Board Post: Hello: We are doing our family genealogy McGlashing/MacGlashen from Canada - New Brunswick, Nova Scotia. As the family branched out some came to Mass. If you think you may have a connection to the above would love to hear from you. Sandi (McGlashing) McIntyre

Hello, I'd like to add more to my posting this week about the 13 LEWIS siblings who grew up in Stoneham, MA ! The oldest was William S. LEWIS who was born in Nova Scotia before his parents moved down to MA and had 12 more children here ! I knew he was born in early 1880, and the family migrated in 1881. Through census information I had found a William and Jennie LEWIS living the Everett area, and William had very similar information to my William so I "thought" he might have been my "William." This couple "retired to" Plymouth, ME, which is near Bangor. This week I put out a query on a Maine List, and someone was able to find the obituary of that William. As it turns out, it was the wrong William ! But, it is quite surprising how many similarities there were between the two William's ! The ME obituary said that that William was born on Feb. 29th, 1880 in New Brunswick. I knew that my William had been born in Nova Scotia around the same time. So, last night I dug through my notes and found his birthdate - Feb. 29th, 1880 ! The obituary said that William H. LEWIS had gone to school in both Saint John, NB, and Stoneham, MA. The parents of my William S. LEWIS came down to Boston and not long after settled in Stoneham, MA ! So, I am now wondering if these two William LEWIS' went to high school together ! :o) So that others can be helped, the William Henry LEWIS had the parents, William H. LEWIS and Annebelle WARNOCK. I checked the 1881 Canadian census for Saint John, and actually found the 2 families living in the same household ! Also, I found out that William LEWIS, b1880, married Jennie LORD who had been born in Maine ! And, in 1920 in MA, they had Mrs. Annie LORD, a widow, living with them. The obituary said they only had one son, William LEWIS, Jr., and he appears to have lived in Maine, also ! (Found out that Plymouth and Pittsfield, ME, are bordering towns, and this couple actually died in Newport, ME.) I found my correct couple, William and Laura (?) LEWIS, living in Lynn, MA, in 1920. They had a daughter, Mona LEWIS, 10, but I think Mona was William's daughter from a first marriage - perhaps to Mary EMERSON of Stoneham (?). Laura (?) was born in Canada, also, and immigrated in 1906. She was a saleslady in a grocery store. And, William was listed as a police officer for the "Steam Railroad" at that time. After all this, I remembered that my mother had told me she had attended "Uncle Will's" funeral. But, I have no idea whether that was in the 1940's or 1950's ! In this family, both of the parents died of cancer while in their early 60's (1923 and 1924). They lost a son when he was 26 of a heart-attack. My grandfather died in his early 60's of a heart-attack. His brother, John (youngest in family), died in his early 60's in CA of lung-cancer. They lost a married daughter in 1923 when she died during childbirth. I have not yet found out when the others died, except for a few who seem to have lived into their late 70's. As I mentioned, the married daughters had the surnames, GREENE, WING, JOYCE, PHELAN, TALMADGE, HUBER, and CHASE ! Thank you for your time! May "each" of us find "our Pot of Gold" today ! :o) Spiritually or physically ! Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. Most of my family-tree from the 1600's to the 1800's seem to have been "all English" -- but one of my grandfather's was descended from "Scottish surname" people who lived in IRELAND from the late 1700's - and went to Quebec Province in the 1820's ! So, even though my "uncles, aunts, and cousins" very much celebrate their "Scottish heritage" !!! Me, the genealogist, has seen several references to "those IRISH families" living in Quebec Province during the 1800's ! :o)

Hi Barbara, Thank you for the information. I also found out a couple of years ago that there was a CHASE family in Stoneham - where the LEWIS children grew up ! I believe the names of the 5 CHASE children were: Joseph, John, Dorothy, Helen, and June, but I'm not positive.. I don't know what years they were born, and I don't know their birth order. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nsambradley@aol.com> To: <MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:16 PM Subject: Re: MAMIDDLE-D Betty > Betty, I noticed your searching for a Chase family from Winchester. For > what it may be worth I know of two Chase families that lived in Reading > Ma in > the 1950's. They each had a daughter(maybe other children too) that I > went to > school with. One of the girls was named Catherine(Kathleen etc). I'm > afraid I have forgotten the other girls names. Just thought since > Winchester in > next to Reading, that it may be worth looking into. If anyone in area > has > access to old phone directories(1958-59 ). I think Catherine has since > died, > but not sure. > > Good Luck Betty. > Barbara > > ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1776.4 Message Board Post: I found your George Preble in Natick, Middlesex, Ma. in the 1930 census 60 yrs old a widower b. Maine P. Maine Landscape engineer, blasting. I tried tracing backwards but could not find him, there were several born in Maine but not the right one. Maybe the last name was spelled wrong........It seems strange he missed so many census'.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LIZOTTE, KINDER, MORTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1106.2 Message Board Post: I am Gail (Lizotte) Morton's son. I am the great-great grandson of Samuel Kinder. Please feel free to contact me wcmorton @ hotmail.com Did you ever find Samuel Kinder's obit? I have paperwork of his military service. Clyde Merrill sent away for it back in the 1960's.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1776.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your help guys. Much appreciated and more than I had before and another place to look for more.

George C PREBLE is listed on the 1930 census for Natick, MA Name:George C PREBLE Age:60 Estimated birth year:abt 1870 Birthplace:Maine Relation to head-of-house:Lodger Race:White Home in 1930:Natick, Middlesex, Massachusetts District 353 Occupation: Landscape engineer - blasting He is also listed in 1931 Natick City Directory living at 9 N. Main. His occupation is listed as dynamiter. I would be happy to send these images to you off list is you would like them Regards, Linda

Betty.. I went there yesterday and had no problems - and I also have Norton...? However I did not stay on for long, having gotten the info I needed... Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:11 AM Subject: [MAMiddle] LDS web site - something new / annoying ? > Hello, > > Since the LDS web site has been brought up, I'd like to ask if anyone else > is having trouble with it. > > www.familysearch.org > > I didn't use the web site for a few weeks, and then, when I tried to use > it, I found out we now have to "sign in." That wasn't a problem. > But, almost every time I do a "search," I get the "your time has > expired" message, and I have to start the "search" all over again ! > > Is this something which is happening to other people, or does it have > something to do with my recently switching to "Norton" ?? I do > "disable" Norton when I got to the site, but it doesn't seem to make a > difference ! > > Thank you for your time ! > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hi John, If I know I'm going to use a "very busy" web site, I try to use it between 5 am and 7 am -- seems to be the least busy time of the day. I'm going to try using the LDS site now to see what happens ! I also had a problem getting the HeritageQuest site via my Library after I started using Norton, and I was told by ProQuest customer service that the only way for me to "get in" is to "disable" Norton for a few minutes ! And, that has worked fine ! I'm "very" aware of -- virus-type problems, and am always cautious ! Enjoy your day ! Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Slaughter" <mamiddlegenweb@hotmail.com> To: <bbffrrpp@comcast.net>; <MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:13 AM Subject: RE: [MAMiddle] LDS web site - something new / annoying ? > Betty, > It is extremely rare that I use FamilySearch.org. As a site that with > extremely heavy traffic, it could be that you are simply timing out > because of the heavy load. Try different times of day to see if that > helps. > I know this happens at NEHGS. I won't be using NEHGS at all from Mar. > 20-22 when they open up the Register database for everyone. > > Do not EVER turn off your Norton, or any other virus/internet protection. > You could wind up regretting it. It is sometimes necessary to turn off > anti-virus software when installing new programs. When that is necessary, > be sure you are disconnected from the internet. > > John > In loving memory of our son, Brennan. 11/10/88-5/31/01. > http://john-slaughter.rootsweb.com/Brennan.html > > MA-Bay-Colony list moderator > USGenWeb County Coordinator > Essex County, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maessex > Middlesex County, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~mamiddle > USGenWeb Town Coordinator Ipswich, Essex, MA - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~macipswi > > > > > >>From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> >>To: MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [MAMiddle] LDS web site - something new / annoying ? >>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:11:19 -0500 >> >>Hello, >> >>Since the LDS web site has been brought up, I'd like to ask if anyone else >>is having trouble with it. >> >>www.familysearch.org >> >>I didn't use the web site for a few weeks, and then, when I tried to use >>it, I found out we now have to "sign in." That wasn't a problem. >>But, almost every time I do a "search," I get the "your time has >>expired" message, and I have to start the "search" all over again ! >> >>Is this something which is happening to other people, or does it have >>something to do with my recently switching to "Norton" ?? I do >>"disable" Norton when I got to the site, but it doesn't seem to make a >>difference ! >> >>Thank you for your time ! >> >>Betty (near Lowell, MA) >> >> >> >> >> >>============================== >>New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >>at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >>http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > >

Hello, Since the LDS web site has been brought up, I'd like to ask if anyone else is having trouble with it. www.familysearch.org I didn't use the web site for a few weeks, and then, when I tried to use it, I found out we now have to "sign in." That wasn't a problem. But, almost every time I do a "search," I get the "your time has expired" message, and I have to start the "search" all over again ! Is this something which is happening to other people, or does it have something to do with my recently switching to "Norton" ?? I do "disable" Norton when I got to the site, but it doesn't seem to make a difference ! Thank you for your time ! Betty (near Lowell, MA)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Preble, Buchanan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1776.3 Message Board Post: Hi Carolyn. I just took a quick look for your PREBLE family in the 1900, 1910, and 1920 Census for MA, and I'm not really finding them. I did see a George PREBLE living in Newton in 1910, but his wife's name was Josephine. (They had a son, Age 9, whose name started with M ... (Milford, Murtrand ????) There were other George PREBLE's in MA, but none with a wife, Katherine or Kate. (Closest was Cora.)

Betty, It is extremely rare that I use FamilySearch.org. As a site that with extremely heavy traffic, it could be that you are simply timing out because of the heavy load. Try different times of day to see if that helps. I know this happens at NEHGS. I won't be using NEHGS at all from Mar. 20-22 when they open up the Register database for everyone. Do not EVER turn off your Norton, or any other virus/internet protection. You could wind up regretting it. It is sometimes necessary to turn off anti-virus software when installing new programs. When that is necessary, be sure you are disconnected from the internet. John In loving memory of our son, Brennan. 11/10/88-5/31/01. http://john-slaughter.rootsweb.com/Brennan.html MA-Bay-Colony list moderator USGenWeb County Coordinator Essex County, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maessex Middlesex County, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~mamiddle USGenWeb Town Coordinator Ipswich, Essex, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macipswi >From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> >To: MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MAMiddle] LDS web site - something new / annoying ? >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:11:19 -0500 > >Hello, > >Since the LDS web site has been brought up, I'd like to ask if anyone else >is having trouble with it. > >www.familysearch.org > >I didn't use the web site for a few weeks, and then, when I tried to use >it, I found out we now have to "sign in." That wasn't a problem. >But, almost every time I do a "search," I get the "your time has >expired" message, and I have to start the "search" all over again ! > >Is this something which is happening to other people, or does it have >something to do with my recently switching to "Norton" ?? I do >"disable" Norton when I got to the site, but it doesn't seem to make a >difference ! > >Thank you for your time ! > >Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > > > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1776.2 Message Board Post: Massachusetts Vital Records, 1841-1910 Preble George (Stillborn) Waltham 1898 476 448 Birth sept 14, 1898 parents are george c & kate a buchanan. george b machias me and kate b belfast p.e.i. there may be others, all images are not on line

Betty, I noticed your searching for a Chase family from Winchester. For what it may be worth I know of two Chase families that lived in Reading Ma in the 1950's. They each had a daughter(maybe other children too) that I went to school with. One of the girls was named Catherine(Kathleen etc). I'm afraid I have forgotten the other girls names. Just thought since Winchester in next to Reading, that it may be worth looking into. If anyone in area has access to old phone directories(1958-59 ). I think Catherine has since died, but not sure. Good Luck Betty. Barbara

Thank you Scott, Maybe the person who told me that just didn't want to be bothered. But you have given me hope in finding what I am looking for. Thanks again. Barbara

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1776.1 Message Board Post: Since you know the dates and locations of their deaths, the easiest way would be to contact the Boston Public Library and see if you can get obituaries for them. Obits will list children, and usually children who had preceded them in death. Visit www.bpl.org and check the microtext department. I have mailed away for obits from BPL and was happy with the turn around. Good Luck! Jodi

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1776 Message Board Post: Can anyone point me in the direction to check to see if a couple had any children and where they may have lived? Katherine Buchanan married to George Collins Preble on 4 Apr. 1894 in Newton Centre. Ma. Katherine died in the Boston area 27 Apr. 1917/George died 24 Nov. 1935 in Natick, Mass.