Hello I am new to the list, my name is Eveline Tiefenbach. I am searching for info on Daniel AHERN, born about 1887 in Ireland, he emigr. to the US in 1914 and was nat. in 1919, his parents were Patrick AHERN and Bridget SULLIVAN. Daniel AHERN married Alice (maiden name unkown), they had the following children: Cornelius AHERN Daniel Jr. AHERN John AHERN birth dates are unkown. Can anyone help? regards Eveline Tiefenbach

Dear Fellow Researchers: I am hoping to find someone that would be willing to locate and photograph the gravemarkers of my great grandparents? According to the death certificates, they are both buried in the St. Mary's Cemetery, Marlborough. MA. Their names are as follows: Cyprien Simoneau d. 19 Jan 1953 Mary Louise Simoneau d. 24 Feb 1931 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Karen Jefferson County Indiana lookup Volunteer

Angela, I would disagree that the records of the town clerk are sparse. Town records are the basis of state records so that if the NEHGS has a record of it, you have to consider that the burial was forwarded to the state from another town, Milford as you say or Ashland. I tend to doubt it given the info that you have and also given that the Catholic parish was well established. It is possible that prior to coming to Hopkinton her husband was buried in an earlier town of residence and that her "remains" were transferred there or the death recorded there. From personal experience I can tell you that the only Catholic parish of St. John in Hopkinton will have no real info. Also you have to consider that the fire in which she was killed was a huge blaze that may have left no body to bury anywhere.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1833.1.1 Message Board Post: Lisa...Thank you very much! I am now trying to find the cemetery in which she is buried. I have checked with the town of Hopkinton. Records are sparse...does not appear she is buried there. I am now checking with St. John's Church cemetery. I understand that in the 1890's people may have even been buried in Ashland or Milford when they died in Hopkinton. Thanks again! Angela Park from Virginia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Detato and Webster Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1836.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Donald Detato WW2 Draft RegistrationCard 07 August 1941 Chicago, Illinois 1 year high school born Massachusetts single - no dependents Civil occupation: Camerman- motion pictures

Maureen Reilly contributed the following from The Lowell Journal, 28 January 1848 - Marriages [not just Lowell]: Waterhouse-Gates, Kendall-Conant, Downing-Atkinson, Hall-Sanborn, Blaisdell-Smith, Nichols-Woodward, Pilsbury-Stevens, Dole-Abbott, Coolidge-Sharp, Bassett-Roberts, Barrett-Stearns, Talbot-Rogers, Parker-Wright, Walcott-Whitney. Deaths [not just Lowell]: Crowley, Waters, Coffran, Burton, Brady, Billings, Markee, Billins, Page, M'Lennan, Hartwell, Greenwood, Gammell, Farnsworth. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~mamidnws/1848/JAN.html#28 for details. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Middlesex County Massachusetts Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.rootsweb.com/~mamidnws/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1836.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am looking at the passenger list...the address may be Worcester (Worchester) St. The first spelling would be correct. Worcester is a city in Mass...

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Detato and Webster Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1836.1.1 Message Board Post: I appreciate your information. I agree in the 1910 Census it does look like the family I'm searching. 1. Antoniette Lattie abt 1885 came to America 31 May 1906 Boston Passenger List ship "Romanic". Antonio Divata was her husband (in the margine has Di Tato) 16 Womchster St Boston Mass??? unable to find)(Winchester Lane??)Lots of people using the address tho 2. Antonio Detato (various spellings) apears to be unsure. Several listed that could be him, popular name Divito appears to be him tho. 3. Son Alberto Detato Born 03 September 1902 Italy died September 1996 Eugene, Lane, Oregon married Mary Margaret? Born 06 September 1904 died 05 March 1990 Eugene, Lane, Oregon. 4. daughter Beatrice Detato Abt. 1909 married last name Nelson 5. Elenor Detato Abt. 1910 died 1999 married Harold Hendrix died 1975. 6. Augusta Detato as perviously stated 7. Dominic Detato changed name to Daonald Detato born 14 March 1914 died 29 August 2003 Eugene, Lane, Oregon *** Will look more for Jennie as per your suggestions, Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1836.1 Message Board Post: Hi Margaret, I am not having a lot of luck finding too much on the Detato family. I haven't been able to find any Detato births in the Mass VR to 1910. I have tried alternate spellings, first name's only, and all of Middlesex County. I haven't found any immigration for Antonio and Antonia, either. I did find them in Wilmington in 1910 on Chestnut St.; indexed on Ancestry.com as "Clatalio", but it must be them: Antonio (it looks more like "Clatatio" to me, but could be Datatio???) gives immigration year 1903. He was a laborer in a Rug Factory. Antonia gives immigration year as 1906. Children in 1910 are Alberto, age 8 b Italy; Jennie age 3 b. Mass; Beatrice age 2 b. Mass; and Lenore age 4 months b. Mass. I also found Antonio's WWI Draft Registration, on that the name is spelled "Ditato"...I will email that to you. I will keep trying the Mass VR's; but I don't have much to help you with what happened to Jennie after 1920. I am wondering what Jennie is short for...in Italian it would probably be Giovannina or Giovanna. Perhaps you should try looking for a naturalization record for Antonio. This could be found at the National Archives in Waltham, MA; and would include much personal information, including children's names, marriage info; and usually a photo of the person...if he became naturalized. I am not sure, but you may be able to get someone there to search for a fee...their website is: http://www.archives.gov/northeast/boston/index.html I wish you luck... Lisa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1833.1 Message Board Post: Hi Angela, I have found the following in Mass. VR 1843-1910 on the New England Historic Genealogical Society Website: "Ann Delaney; date of death: 27 Feb 1892 Hopkinton; residence: Hopkinton; age 85; cause of death: burned to death; born Ireland, Occupation: housekeeper." No parents' names listed... Lisa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Detato and Webster Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1836 Message Board Post: My story is long and appears to be complicated , so I will try to cut the chase My father-in-law does not remember his mother. On his birth certificate it has his mother being Jennie Detato Born 1907 (1920 Census Wilmington, Middlesex,Mass on Beach Street)to Antonio and Antonetta Detato from Italy. around 1925-1926 she "married" Raymond A Webster Born 12 April 1905 in Vermont (1920 Census Wilmington, Middlesex, Mass on Swain Road) to Albert J and Bridget Webster. My father- in-law Albert J Webster born 4/24/1927 Mass and a brother Raymond A about 1929-1930 in Mass. He does remember living on Swaine Road (with Webster grandparents and visiting grandparents on Beach Street). Jennie Detato Webster was "put away" sometime in the early 1930's due to a mental illness. I have searched Mass state for 2 years and I have found no record of the births of the sons Albert or Raymond. I have found no record of marriage for Raymond A and Jennie. Or where Jennie went(even looked in Tewksbury). I can not find Jennies parents in 1930 Census. I can not find Raymond A or either of the 2 sons Raymond A Webster married again around 1935-1937 to Mabel Harrison born 10 November 1902. They had a son Lawrence born Abt. 1936 died 27 October 1954 according to Lowell Sun - burried Wildwood Cemetary. They lived on Swain Road in Wilmington, Mass. Raymond A died 15 January 1993 Cushing, Payne, Oklahoma and would never tell Albert(father-in-law) what happened to his mother. It is my understanding he was a hateful man. Health concerns are involved on both of these parents- heritary or not?? Jennie had a brother Augusta Detato (GUS)born Abt. 1912, Mass died 11 May 1954 Wakefield, Middlesex, Massachusetts married Lillian Cluney born 11 April 1904 died 03 November 1992 Melrose, Mass all have been burried Wildwood Cemetary.. but lived on Beach Street for quite sometime. If you look in the Lowell Sun 1930's -1950's they usually stayed in the news. I also have been unable to find the cemetery records.. According to a Detato cousin, Jennie was a big family secret, somewhat a family disgrace and it was never discussed. Considering the times, we can see that. In 1939 the boys Albert J and Raymond A were removed from the home according to Albert J..... The next time Albert J saw his father Raymond A was about 1988. Would appreciate any help you can give me, if fees are involved let me know because I am beginning to think I may have to make a visit from Texas and find out information from the Court House if necessary. Father in law turns 79 this month and we would like to give him reconciliation to the matter concerning his mother. mcbfinder@yahoo.com Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1835 Message Board Post: The Coffelt database which tries to find the unit everyone on the VN Wall belonged to is looking for info on Fred. His home was Pepperell, Mass and his wife was named Emma. Need to find his place of burial and his unit in Viet Nam.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1829.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Sue, I remember now that when I turned 18 I had to sign up. My Dad did not see action that I know of, but was on the USS Missouri when it went through the Panama Canal , one of the first to go through. Em

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1829.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Emery, The comments in Ancestry describe the WWI draft registration as being required for every male living within the US between the ages of 18 and 45 in September 1917. Even though your father had already served, he was still required to registered. Apparently, if someone was on active duty in September 1917, they didn't have to registered. Where did you dad serve at? If he already so combat, the board may not have chosen to call him up. Also, there is a Rootsweb list for Military stuff. You might want to ask the question there. Sue

Subject: Benjamin Crisp Source: The Great Migration Begins Robert Charles Anderson - NEHGS Vol. I p.403 Origin: Unknown Migration 1631 1st Res: Watertown Removes: Groton 1666 - Watertown by 1681. Occupation: Mason Church Membership: Admission to Watertown church prior to 6 May 1646; implied by freemanship Freeman: 6 May 1646 [MBCR 2: 294]. Education: Signed deed of 25 September 1666. Offices: On 13 April 1681 Watertown selectmen ordered that "Benjamin Crispe have "the charge of the meeting house committed to him to sweep and ring the bell and what else is needful to be done to fasten the doors and windows when the exercise is done" [WaTR 2:7,8]. Estate: Granted twenty acres in Great Dividend in Watertown, 25 July 1636/7 [WaBOP 6]; granted three acres in Remote Meadow, 26 June 1637 [WaBOP9]; granted a sixty-four acre farm, 10 May 1642 [WaBOP12]. In the Watertown Inventory of Grants Benjamin Crisp was credited with six parcels of land: seven acre homestall; twenty acres of upland in p.494 Great Dividend; nine acres of upland beyond the Further Plain; one acre of meadow at Beaver Brook; four acres [sic] of Remote Meadow and three acres of plowland in Hither Plain [Beaverbrook Plowlands] [WaBOP 31]. On 25 September 1666 "Benjamin Crispe of Watertown, mason," joined by "Bridget Crispe, his wife," for a valuable sum of money sold to Thomas Boydon of Groton four parcels of land in Watertown; seven acres of upland and buildings; twenty acres of Great Dividend; twelve acres in liew of Township; and a fifty-three acre farm [MLR 3:173], (Since the Lieu of Township land was the same as the upland beyond the Further Plain, and since the farms, as finally surveyed, were somewhat smaller than originally granted, these four parcels are the same as the holdings more than twenty years earlier in the Composite Inventory. Birth: About 1610 aged forty-five in 1656, fifty-two in 1662 and seventy-seven in 1683 [Sarah Hildreth Anc 56, presumably from Middlesex Court Files. Death: Watertown between 5 November 1683 and 21 December 1683 (Frederick C. Warner suggests this range of dates because on the latter date Crisp was replaced in his duties about the meetinghouse, but on the former date at a town meeting no mention was made of the need for such a replacement [WaTR 2:15]; certainly he is seen in no record after 31 October 1682 when he sold his son Jonathan's property [MLR 8:227]. Marriage: (1) by 1636 Bridget _____; she died Groton about the time of King Philip's War, and perhaps in consequence of the raid on Groton during that conflict. (2) After 29 November 1680 Joanna (Goffe?) Longley, widow of William Longley Sr. [TAG62:26]; she died at Charlestown 18 April 1698 aged 79 [ChVR 1:73; Wyman 248 citing gravestone]. She settled her estate on her Longley children [MPR 9:231; MLR 12:77]. Children (all born Watertown: i. Elizabeth b. 8 January 1636/7 [WaVR4]; m. Watertown 29 September 1657 George Lawrence [WaVR20]. ii. Mary b. 20 May 1638 [WaVR 5]; m. by 1661 William Green (eldest child b. Cambridge 21 May 1661 [TAG 62;25, citing MLR 20:338, 25:555]. iii. Jonathan b. 29 January 1639/40 [WaVR 6]; served in King Philip's War [Bodge 122, 272, 359, 360], and died before 25 October 1680 when his father administered his estate p.495 [MPR 5:109; see also MLR 8:227]; apparently unmarried. iv. Eleazer b. 14 January 1641/2 [WaVR 9]; no further record (but see TAG 62:27). v. Zacharariah b. say 1644; served in King Philip's War (including duty at Groton garrison) [Bodge 71, 360]; did not marry but had an illegitimate child with Mary Stanwood (see Sarah Hildreth Anc 58 for details on his "turbulent youth"). vi. Mehitable b. 21 January 1645/6 [WaVR 12]; no further record. vii. Mercy b. say 1648; m. Chelmsford 11 April 1667 Robert Parish (or Parris). viii. Deliverance b. about 1650 (deposed in 1670 aged twenty [TAG 62:27]); m. by 1674 William Longley, Jr. of Groton. [TAG 62:27, and sources cited there. Comments: On 7 October 1656 Benjamin Crisp, aged about forty-five, deposed that he was a servant of Major [Edward] Gibbons "25 years agone" (original not found but cited by Warner and others). Benjamin Crispe appears every two years or so involved in minor Watertown town business, from 1647 to 1662 [WaTR 1:14, 34, 44, 54, 55, 59, 75]. Bibliographic Note: Walter Goodwin Davis in 1958 published an excellent account of Benjamin Crispe and his family [Sarah Hildreth Anc 55-58]. Frederick C. Warner, in an article published posthumously, improved upon the work of Davis with regard to the daughters, untangling a confusion between Mary and Mercy and thus adding a daughter and son-in-law and also elucidating the life of the youngest daughter, Deliverance [TAG 62:25-27]. (Warner had also treated the Crisp family earlier, in his typescript "The Ancestry of Samuel, Freda and John Warner," which was completed in 1949 and is available at the NEHGS Library) Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth from Vol. I - from the set of 3 books The Great Migration Begins which set I own. JF

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1834.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Thats great news! Good luck I hope she is the one your looking for. I checked my 1937 directory and there was no listing for Luther or Evelyn Wiggin...so they probably weren't in Lowell at the time. Good luck in your search. Maureen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AFB.2ACE/1829.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sue, I was wondering about that. I also was curious to know if anyone knows the reason that someone would have to fill out a draft card after you had gotten out of the service. My dad went in in 1914 and came out in 1917. Maybe some one can chime in on that? Thanks again Em

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1834.3.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Maureen, That is the family I am researching. I found a marriage intention at the Lowell Historical Society website. They listed Evelyn as having married a Luther F. Wiggin and the intention is dated 5 Dec 1931. There is a Evelyn Wiggin who was born in 1911 and died on 20 Mar 1989 in Somerville. That could be her. I have to check into that. Thanks for that. It really helps put the pieces together for this family. Thank You, Becky

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AFB.2ACE/1834.3 Message Board Post: Becky, I checked my three directories and found the following: 1929 Lowell Directory Lamoureux, Eveline hosiery worker res 196 Howard Lamoureux, Joseph D (Hermenonda) fixer h 196 Howard Lamoureux, Ludger helper 251 Thorndike res 196 Howard 1937 Lowell Directory Lamoureux, Jos D (Hermenonda) h 196 Howard Lamoureux, Andre chauf 251 Thorndike r 196 Howard There was no listing in the 1937 directory for Evelyn/Eveline. Maureen

Subject: Benjamin Crispe Source: Genealogies of the Families and Descendants of the Early Settlers of Watertown, Massachusetts, Includes Waltham and Weston - by Henry Bond, M.D. Boston, 1860. p.188 Benjamin Crispe born about 1611, servant of Major Gibbons, 1630 or 1631, and probably came over with him, 1629. [Great Migrations Begins says Major Gibbons migrated 1623 - see sources below.] A proprietor of Watertown 1636-7; admitted freeman May 6, 1646; by wife Bridget had: 1. Elizabeth Crispe b. January 8, 1636/7; m. Sept. 27, 1657, George Lawrence. 2. Mary Crispe b. May 20, 1638. 3. Jonathan Crispe b. Jan 29, 1639/40, an early proprietor of Groton; his estate admin. by his father, Benjamin, Oct 25, 1680. 4. Eleazer Crispe b. Jan 14, 1641/2. 5. Mehitable Crispe b. Jan 21, 1645/6. 6. Zachariah, impressed as a soldier by Capt. Mosely of Boston abt 1673 [see Court file 1674.] p.189 Sept 21, 1666, Benjamin Crispe of Watertown, a mason, and wife Bridget, sold to Thomas Boyden, of Groton, a dwelling house etc with 7 acres and several other parcels of land, amounting to 92 acres. He probably moved to Groton about this time. The Will of Joanna Crispe of Groton (? widow of Jonathan), mentions her daughters Mary Lemon, Sarah Rand, and Lydia Nutting, grand daughter Sarah Nutting, grand children Lydia, Elizabeth and William Longley, grand daughter Anna Lawrence, grand daughters Mary and Elizabeth Shaddock and three grand children in captivity. p.751 Benjamin Crisp returned from Groton to Watertown as early as 1681. The selectmen of Watertown on May 24, 1681, chose Benjamin Crispe, in room of Goodman Bloise, to take care of the meeting house, salary 4 pounds, 10 shillings, also to be pound-keeper. He married for his 2d wife, Joanna, widow of William Longley, Sr., of Groton. In her Will, she is said to be "of Groton," but she died at Charlestown [gravestone] April 18, 1698 aged 79. [William Longley Sen., of Groton, died November 29, 1680. His Will dated November 23, 1680, proved April 1681, mentions sons John and William and 4 daughters, viz., 1. Mary Lemond (by husband Samuel, had Samuel b. April 29, 1667). 2. Hannah Tarball (married about 1666, Thomas Tarball, Jr. [2.] 4 children) 3. Lydia Nutting (wife of James Nutting of Groton, 6 children) 4. Sarah Rand (born at Lynn Oct 15, 1660; m. (1) June 17, 1679, Thomas Rand, Jr. (? of Charlestown). She m. (2) before 1710, ____ Watt.) His widow Joanna, in her Will, mentions two granddaughters, Mary and Elizabeth Shaddock. Their parentage not ascertained. Is this name Shattuck or Chadwick? - Bond. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What ship did Major Gibbons arrive on? Benjamin Crispe was his servant and believed to have arrived with Major Gibbons. From the sources below, I think they arrived 1623 On the Ship Charity. First to Maine and then to Wessagusset, Mass. That is my opinion, only. Janice Farnsworth March 4, 2002 Sources for Major Gibbins The Great Migration Begins 1620-1633 Robert Charles Anderson NEHGS, Boston 1995 Volume II p.719 Edward Gibbons Migration 1623 First Residence: Wessagusset Removes: Charlestown 1630, Boston, 1638 Offices: On 24 February 1650/1 Emmanual Downing wrote to John Winthrop Jr. "You hear now Major Gibbons will not be persuaded to be a Magistrate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ History of Weymouth COMING OF THE WHITE MAN Old Records p. 493 Next to Plymouth, Weymouth is the oldest settlement in the Old Bay State. In the spring of 1622 an expedition was fitted out by one Thomas Weston, with a view to establishing a colony and trading post somewhere near the Plymouth Colony. This expedition started with two vessels, the "Charity" of one hundred tons, and the "Swan" of thirty tons. The Weston party arrived in August, and in their prospecting along the coast no place was more attractive to them than our shore front and inland view. They sailed up Fore River, and, according to all authorities, after coming to anchor, made their landing at what is now known as Phillip's Creek. After a month or more of labor in establishing the colony, the "Charity" with her crew returned to England, leaving the smaller craft, the "Swan," for the use of the colony. _http://banner.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/newgo.cgi?pos=11000069924_ (http://banner.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/newgo.cgi?pos=11000069924) David Blackwell's Books ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Phineas Pratt’s Account of the Wessagussett Plantation Introduced and redacted by Marcia Steward, Chairperson, The Winthrop Society "Wessagusset was settled by Mr. Weston 1622-1623" Mr. Thomas Westorne (Weston), a merchant of good credit in London, that was then their treasurer, that had disbursed much of his money for the good of New England, sent forth a ship for the settling a plantation in the Mathechusits Bay, but wanting a pilot we arrived at Damoralls Cove (Damaris Cove near Monhegan, ME). The men that belong to the ship, there fishing, had newly set up a may pole and were very merry. We made haste to prepare a boat fit for coasting. Then said Mr. Rogers, Master of our ship, "here are many ships, and at Munhigin, but no man that does undertake to be your pilot; for they say that an Indian called Rumhigin undertook to pilot a boat to Plimoth, but they all lost their lives." Then said Mr. Gibbs, Masters Mate of our ship, "I will venture my life with them." At this time of our discovery, we first arrived at Smithe’s Islands, first so called by Capt. Smith, at the time of his discovery of New England, and afterwards called Islands of Shoals. From thence to Cape Ann, so called by Capt. Mason; from thence to the Mathechusits Bay. There we continued 4 or 5 days. Then we perceived, that on the south part of the Bay, were fewest of the natives of the country dwelling there. We thought best to begin our plantation, but fearing a great company of savages, we being but 10 men, thought it best to see if our friends were living at Plimoth. Then sailing along the coast not knowing the harbor, they shot off a piece of ordnance, and at our coming ashore, they entertained us with 3 volley of shots. Their second ship was returned for England before we came to them. We asked them where the rest of our friends were that came in the first ship (the Mayflower). They said that God had taken them away by death, and that before their second ship came, they were so distressed with sickness that they, fearing the savages should know it, had set up their sickest men with their muskets upon their rests, and their backs leaning against trees. At this time, one or two of them went with us in our vessel to the place of fishing to buy victuals. Eight or nine weeks after this, two of our ships arrived at Plimoth --- the lesser of our three ships continued in the country with us. Then we made haste to settle our plantation in the Masachusets Bay --- our number being then near 60 men. At the same time there was a great plague among the savages and, as they themselves told us, half their people died thereof. The natives called the place of our plantation Wesaguscasit. Near unto it is a town of later time called Weymoth. Subject: Crispe, Benjamin arrived 1631 and listed w/Winthrop Soc. but ship unknown Source: Winthrop Society _http://members.aol.com/WinthropSQ/c-data.htm_ (http://members.aol.com/WinthropSQ/c-data.htm) Benjamin CRISP Born c 1610 Died 1683 English Origin (Maj. Gibbons' servant) Came to New England by 1631 With? Resided in Watertown Freeman of MBC 1646 Occupation mason First Spouse Bridget (d c 1675) Children Elizabeth, Mary, Jonathan, Eleazer, Zachariah, Mehitable, Mercy, Deliverance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Material gathered and transcribe by Janice Farnsworth