MosesSHEPPARD1884abt@NFLDrs@NFLD1884abt-rs@90 PEARL ,CHELSEA,MA.,CARPENTER,1908-rs@64 fourth ,chelsea,ma,1909- & Harriett A.HUDSON1884abt@NFLDRS@NFLD1884abt-RS@90 PEARL,CHELSEA,MA.TAILORESS,1908-rs@64 fourth ,chelsea,ma, 1909- this is how it was in their marrage cetificate then MaySHEPPARD2 May 1909@64 fourth ,chelsea,ma-rs@64 fourth ,chelsea,ma,1909- was born and her record states the parents are MosesSHEPPARD +Annnie H. HUDSON rs 64 fourth ,chelsea,ma carpenter nfld nfld So this is the same couple why Annie instead of Harriet well if what has worked for me in the past is true. It was Canada policy of using the middle names. This can cause a night mare if the marrage + birth didnt use middle names . Now yesterday you all saw the way these names married and you'de be forced not to tie them together. If middle initials didnt get used. So if Canada is in the picture look for this jim In a message dated 8/30/01 12:33:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CARADOC28 writes: << In ireland people didnt use middle names the way we do. They used them as james ben robert. In other word the middle names were the fathers name Why does that matter well in canada they didnt use the first names but the middle names. So i had a neil dever who I swore I found in two records but the fathers name was wrong patrick and then james Well it turns out his dads name was patrick james. They came thru canada and in doing so patrick became james. So when they came here they were used to james. So neil used james. then after a while they caught on and went back to patrick. This can cause you great consternation as it did me. I heard this in a lecture at the new england genealogical historical event in randolph mass a while back. hope this helps you find them jim >> all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan