This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4201.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I could not find a birth record for any name like "Alderic" Cardinal/Cardinel/Cardenel, etc, born between 1871 and 1875 in MA. And I could find no births for that last name at all (with any first name) during those years in or near Indian Orchard (Springfield) MA. I then looked for his brother Almeric, and this is the only record I found: Albert Cardinal, b. Dec. 14, 1870 in Springfield MA. Parents: Francis and Blanche (Marvin), residents of Springfield, both b. in Canada. Father's occupation: factory employee.