This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4148.2 Message Board Post: Kathy, Please give the names of your Grandmother and your grandparents and a little more information. I'm sure some one of us can do a little leg work for your Mom before she gets here. Regards, Judy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4147.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, Brightside had many orphans. I lived in Springfield across the bridge and used to bring toys for the orphans. Many of them were children who had parents who couldn't care for them. I am 73 and I use to visit there in my teens. I also wondered about that place and it seems that it is no longer brightside for orphans. G Marie Cote' Sherhart good luck in your quest.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4148.1 Message Board Post: The only suggestion that I can offer is to contact the following office. If the record exist and it should then they would have it. It will save you or the one you have helping you from running around to the different town/city halls in Hampden County. The cost of a certificate however is a little more expensive than a certificate from the town/city hall. I have also attached the link to print the mail in form for you. Registry of Vital Records and Statistics 150 Mount Vernon Street, 1st floor Dorchester, MA 02125-3105 (617) 740-2600 Fax: (617) 825-7755 Email: vital.recordsrequest@state.ma.us Death: $28.00 (by mail) $18 (in person) Mail Order http://www.mass.gov/dph/bhsre/rvr/mailapp.pdf Good Luck

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4148 Message Board Post: I have been searching for my grandmother's dead certificate. We were told she died in 1937 after giving birth to my mom. I have found the obits on her parents but there is no mention of a daughter proceeded in death or still living. Also, my uncle died a while back and there is no mention there either of a sister. How in the world can I find out if and when my grandmother died? I have someone helping me who has been to Springfield and cannot find anything either. There has to be a record of her somewhere. My mom will be in Palmer, MA for her 50th class reunion and wanted to visit her mother's grave site. I have found my grandfather's burial site and still need his obit to see if there is mention of a wife proceeded in death. Any help would be greatly apppreciated!!!

Thank you Laurel... Cynthia -------------- Original message -------------- > Hi Everyone, > > I am still the Message Board administrator for Hampden County. Message > Boards and Lists are sometimes administrated by the same people, sometimes > they are not. I gave up the list, not the boards. > > Now, in terms of the issues with the amusement parks, as a former Holyoker I > have lots of fond memories of Mountain Park also so I know where you all are > coming from, I really do. I am actually on the fence about the value of the > amusement park topic especially in terms of what I have seen in the actual > responses posted to the list via both methods (board and list). > > Ultimately I have to agree with Cynthia that if the amusement park > discussion isn't specifically geared toward history/genealogy it is indeed > off topic. Before I began composing this e-mail I looked through the list > of responses -- as each one of you may wish to do -- and really it is a long > list of mostly short messages naming parks, with lots of repetition. I > think Cynthia absolutely made the right call here. > > Obviously many of us are of an age where the amusement park was an integral > park of our youth! > > What I would consider to be on-topic posts would be a detailed history of a > park (how and when it started, who owned it, etc.); ancestors who may have > been an owner, employee, etc. I would even accept narratives that related > to family history: specific stories and experiences that serve the following > purposes 1) give a sense of what the experience of the park was like to both > the employee and the patron, 2) how it impacted the social, financial and > cultural elements of the city/town in which it resides and 3) gives an > occupational description of specific jobs or working conditions, salaries, > etc. But above all we must remember this is a genealogy list. > > However -- and this is the important part -- I am no longer this > administrator for this list. > > Now in terms of the Message Board being gatewayed to the list, if Cynthia > would like it removed I will do so at her request. I personally feel that > linking the two helps prohibit repetition and also from the search > standpoint, allows one to conduct a search through the list knowing you will > also get the gatewayed messages on the board. > > Most of the time we all get along just fine. But I think if people take a > moment to go through the amusement park related posts from this past week, > the call by Cynthia to cease the thread was quite appropriate. By the way, > there are a lot of amusement park links out there! > > And please remember, when someone posts you always have the option to send a > private response to that person and can continue the the discussion that > way. > > Laurel O'Donnell > >

When the administrator can YELL at us to stop talking about a subject many people on the board are interested in, I'm outta here. Actually, some of the amusement park postings were more interesting than most. I'm not going to let someone on a power trip determine what I can talk about. It's been nice talking to most of you, but I'm getting off. Jennie

I am waiting to hear back from Laurel who administers the Mass Hamdpen message board.... I still do not see where the amusement parks have anything to do with genealogy......everyone wasnt talking genealogy...just names of the old parks. like you I have lived in the Pioneer Valley all my life..3 years shorter than your 63...and know the area well. Keep amusement parks off topic for now until Laurel and I decide what to do. Cynthia -------------- Original message -------------- > I really hope you understood the importance of my comments ma'am. > > SusiCP > Family Historian > It's the Indian in me.....:>) >

What goes on the list board also SHOWS UP on the EMAIL LIST...... amusement parks are OFF TOPIC....period. Cynthia -------------- Original message -------------- > These are from the list archives. > Claire > > CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 40) > > ========================================================================= > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 01:12:51 -0400 > From: "Laurel O'Donnell" > To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > Subject: List Administrator for Hampden County > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Everyone, > > At this point it has been five or more years I have been the list > administrator for Hampden County. After some careful thought, it seems to > be the right time to pass this responsibility along to someone else. > > This will involve administering the list only, NOT the Ancestry/Rootsweb > Boards that serve as a gateway to the list. I will, of course, continue to > subscribe to the list since much of my own family research focuses upon > Hampden County. > > If you are interested in being List Administrator for Hampden County, please > e-mail me privately at lod@zapix.com. The ideal candidate would be someone > with some familiarity with lists and have an interest in Hampden County > Genealogy/History. > > > Laurel O'Donnell-Lafford > > -------------------------------- > End of MAHAMPDE-D Digest V04 Issue #40 > ************************************** > > CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 42) > > ========================================================================= > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:17:24 -0400 > From: "Laurel O'Donnell" > To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > Subject: Welcome Cynthia, your new list admin > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello Everyone, > > I am very pleased to announce Cynthia will be taking over the administration > of the Hampden County list as of this message. > > Many of you will know Cynthia from the numerous other lists she has > maintained and/or contributed to. She has been a huge contributor to free > genealogy over the many years I have been online. I am quite happy Cynthia > has has taken on Hampden County! > > Best to everyone! > > > Laurel O'Donnell-Lafford > > ______________________________ > ------------------------------ > > > > >

Hi Everyone, I am still the Message Board administrator for Hampden County. Message Boards and Lists are sometimes administrated by the same people, sometimes they are not. I gave up the list, not the boards. Now, in terms of the issues with the amusement parks, as a former Holyoker I have lots of fond memories of Mountain Park also so I know where you all are coming from, I really do. I am actually on the fence about the value of the amusement park topic especially in terms of what I have seen in the actual responses posted to the list via both methods (board and list). Ultimately I have to agree with Cynthia that if the amusement park discussion isn't specifically geared toward history/genealogy it is indeed off topic. Before I began composing this e-mail I looked through the list of responses -- as each one of you may wish to do -- and really it is a long list of mostly short messages naming parks, with lots of repetition. I think Cynthia absolutely made the right call here. Obviously many of us are of an age where the amusement park was an integral park of our youth! What I would consider to be on-topic posts would be a detailed history of a park (how and when it started, who owned it, etc.); ancestors who may have been an owner, employee, etc. I would even accept narratives that related to family history: specific stories and experiences that serve the following purposes 1) give a sense of what the experience of the park was like to both the employee and the patron, 2) how it impacted the social, financial and cultural elements of the city/town in which it resides and 3) gives an occupational description of specific jobs or working conditions, salaries, etc. But above all we must remember this is a genealogy list. However -- and this is the important part -- I am no longer this administrator for this list. Now in terms of the Message Board being gatewayed to the list, if Cynthia would like it removed I will do so at her request. I personally feel that linking the two helps prohibit repetition and also from the search standpoint, allows one to conduct a search through the list knowing you will also get the gatewayed messages on the board. Most of the time we all get along just fine. But I think if people take a moment to go through the amusement park related posts from this past week, the call by Cynthia to cease the thread was quite appropriate. By the way, there are a lot of amusement park links out there! And please remember, when someone posts you always have the option to send a private response to that person and can continue the the discussion that way. Laurel O'Donnell

This advice is from one who has been on rootsweb since its inception, many, many years ago. I have been tossed off more lists than most belong to. I have belonged to lists that allow free wheeling and dealing, and those that offer not one bit of leeway in the discussion. Therefore, take your lumps and move on. This ends my tread and hopefully the entire issue. Al bbffrrpp@comcast.net wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4146 > >Message Board Post: > >Hello. I'd just like to get a "point of order" clarified. > >I am just now finding out that the Message Boards now have "owners or administrators" which wasn't always the case. > >And, I'd like to know whether the "owner or administrator" of the Mailing List to which the associated Message Board is "gatewayed" has the right to determine which queries or responses get posted to the Message Board .. IF he or she is not also the "owner / administrator" of the Message Board. > > >FYI: I just checked and the "administrator" of the MA Hampden Message Board is .. Laurel O'Donnell. > > >Another question? Is there a page which lists the "instructions" for posting to each Message Board? > > >FYI: I went to the "administrative" section of the Message Board section of the home page www.rootsweb.com >and found out there are Message Boards for "Suggestions" for Message Boards. And, I found out that volunteers to take over as administrators of Message Boards are needed. > > > > > > > > -- FRIENDS...Thanking you in advance for your understanding and I apologize for the inconvenience. Every effort is being taken to ensure secure communications. PROTECT YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION...GIVE NONE OF IT OUT OVER THE INTERNET!!! Corresponding ? > Include your NAME and PURPOSE in the Subject field. Begin message with your new data entry. All previous mailings must follow. Otherwise mail WILL be automatically deleted as spam. 1. Incoming/outgoing mail is protected by PC-cillin, SpyBot-Search/Destroy, and SpySweeper. 2. FAX: e-Fax subscriber : number: 1-253-541-1113. Faxes received as e-mail attachment - viral scanning done. 3. M-S communications products are not used or endorsed. 4. No attachments sent unless cleared first. BE RESPONSIBLE AND RESPECT YOUR FRIENDS: Use the best Anti-spam and Anti-virus software you can find. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. "IMPORTANT NOTICE: The expectation: privacy and two-way 'clean' communication. This message is intended only for the use of the individual[s] or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient[s], or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient[s], you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify this writer, immediately, by email at ..." b1caez02@cogeco.ca. ® "FORTITER ET STRENUE" One's strength, comes from the heart and soul. Be honest, of integrity, dutiful, righteous and humble...walking as God wills you to. ® "MORS AUT VITA DECORA" Death or a life of honour.

Gigi, Brightside in West Springfield is the place you are looking for. I do not know where the records for the time you are looking for but I'm sure the current agency could tell you. My father in law was born in 1903 and when his mother died leaving several children to the father to care for the younger ones went to Brightside. Judy >From: gprice@stny.rr.com >Reply-To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com >To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MAHAMPDEN] orphanage in/near Springfield in 1904? >Date: 11 Sep 2004 08:54:26 -0600 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: LaRocque, Bernier, Jackson, Meehan, Heidel, Heise >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4147 > >Message Board Post: > >My father's mother died when he was 4 and his brother 8. His father, >unable to care for them put them in an Orphanage in or near Springfield. I >visited one near Holyoke but they had no records of my Dad or his brother. >I know that the Catholic Church had something to do with this orphanage -- >as Dad frequently spoke of the Nuns who took care of him and taught him. >His family was French Canadian. > >Does anyone know of any orphanages around that time and how I might access >their records? Does anyone know how I might go about finding out about >orphanages at the time? > >Thanks, >Gigi LaRocque-Price >

If you would like more on the area just ask. I was born here and lived here for 63 years. Know the Pioneer Valley and events well. Judy >From: SusiCP@aol.com >Reply-To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com >To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MAHAMPDEN] parks -HISTORY very informative for one away from >area THANKS >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:55:33 EDT > >The history of these parks has helped my genealogical search. I want to say >thanks. If you do not live there and are researching people in the area the >more you know of times and places it really truly helps.. > >SusiCP >Family Historian >It's the Indian in me.....:>) >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LaRocque, Bernier, Jackson, Meehan, Heidel, Heise Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4147.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4147.1 Message Board Post: There is a place in west springfield called brightside run by the sisters of providence.It was an orphange untill the 1960s and now is a social service org. 2112 riverdale st west springfield,ma 01089 413-788-7366

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4144.1.2.1 Message Board Post: ok all.. I got a nasty nasty email that anything future about 'amusement parks' would be deleted. It was even in all CAPS. IS THAT SHOUTING? My education has been history and genealogy often go hand in hand. Dig history and you dig names. My little study here is from latter 1800's and noted I WAS NOT TRYING TO HAVE FUN. (amusement parks) geeeez...don't know. I've been on these mailing lists prior (prior to ancestry.com) and if you were digging for info on old fishing canneries in maritime provinces (or even New England?) the subject was not that taboo. My apology.

try contacting the Sisters of Providence in Holyoke. address is - Sisters of Providence Mother House Brightside Holyoke, Massachusetts 01040 413 536 7511 they ran an orphanage called Brightside and while the orphanage is not active - it is now a school - the Sisters are still active in the area

These are from the list archives. Claire CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 40) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 01:12:51 -0400 From: "Laurel O'Donnell" <lod@zapix.com> To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <IOEBJHBOKOJGAMIHFMEDMEBGEFAA.lod@zapix.com> Subject: List Administrator for Hampden County Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Everyone, At this point it has been five or more years I have been the list administrator for Hampden County. After some careful thought, it seems to be the right time to pass this responsibility along to someone else. This will involve administering the list only, NOT the Ancestry/Rootsweb Boards that serve as a gateway to the list. I will, of course, continue to subscribe to the list since much of my own family research focuses upon Hampden County. If you are interested in being List Administrator for Hampden County, please e-mail me privately at lod@zapix.com. The ideal candidate would be someone with some familiarity with lists and have an interest in Hampden County Genealogy/History. Laurel O'Donnell-Lafford -------------------------------- End of MAHAMPDE-D Digest V04 Issue #40 ************************************** CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 42) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:17:24 -0400 From: "Laurel O'Donnell" <lod@zapix.com> To: MAHAMPDE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <IOEBJHBOKOJGAMIHFMEDMEFGEFAA.lod@zapix.com> Subject: Welcome Cynthia, your new list admin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, I am very pleased to announce Cynthia will be taking over the administration of the Hampden County list as of this message. Many of you will know Cynthia from the numerous other lists she has maintained and/or contributed to. She has been a huge contributor to free genealogy over the many years I have been online. I am quite happy Cynthia has has taken on Hampden County! Best to everyone! Laurel O'Donnell-Lafford ______________________________ ------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LaRocque, Bernier, Jackson, Meehan, Heidel, Heise Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4147 Message Board Post: My father's mother died when he was 4 and his brother 8. His father, unable to care for them put them in an Orphanage in or near Springfield. I visited one near Holyoke but they had no records of my Dad or his brother. I know that the Catholic Church had something to do with this orphanage -- as Dad frequently spoke of the Nuns who took care of him and taught him. His family was French Canadian. Does anyone know of any orphanages around that time and how I might access their records? Does anyone know how I might go about finding out about orphanages at the time? Thanks, Gigi LaRocque-Price

<<FYI: I just checked and the "administrator" of the MA Hampden Message Board is .. Laurel O'Donnell.>> Hello...... FYI:Lauren gave up her position as Administrator a few months ago. I don't know if this lists has Archives like others I belong to but if they do then you can check. Some list Administrators are VERY strict in what they allow. Claire

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4146 Message Board Post: Hello. I'd just like to get a "point of order" clarified. I am just now finding out that the Message Boards now have "owners or administrators" which wasn't always the case. And, I'd like to know whether the "owner or administrator" of the Mailing List to which the associated Message Board is "gatewayed" has the right to determine which queries or responses get posted to the Message Board .. IF he or she is not also the "owner / administrator" of the Message Board. FYI: I just checked and the "administrator" of the MA Hampden Message Board is .. Laurel O'Donnell. Another question? Is there a page which lists the "instructions" for posting to each Message Board? FYI: I went to the "administrative" section of the Message Board section of the home page www.rootsweb.com and found out there are Message Boards for "Suggestions" for Message Boards. And, I found out that volunteers to take over as administrators of Message Boards are needed.