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    1. John R. Marsh - Westfield, Hampden County, Mass

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Marsh - Hampden County, Mass Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4172 Message Board Post: Steve Marsh and I are looking for a newspaper obit on John R. Marsh. He died in Westfield, Mass. February 8, 1894. His death certificate says he was from Westfield, but birth certificates of his children say he was from Palmer, Ware, and Strubridge, Mass. His wife was Abigail (Abagail) Stevens Marsh. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    11/08/2004 10:35:18
    1. Need help on an obit for 1919 - Elizabeth Helfrich - d. Springfield, MA

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Helfrich Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4171 Message Board Post: I am hoping someone might be able to help me with an obituary lookup for Elizabeth Helfrich. She died August 21, 1919 in Springfield, MA at the age of 32. Thank you.

    11/08/2004 06:04:01
    1. Re: Northampton State Hospital

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4170.2 Message Board Post: There is a wonderful website at www.1856.org that has much information on the Northampton State Hospital and other Mass. State hospitals, also has a message board/forum. Someone on that list maybe able to assist you.

    11/08/2004 01:44:29
    1. Re: Northampton State Hospital

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4170.1 Message Board Post: Barbara, If you ever are able to get that information I would like to join you because I would like to have the records for my grandmother who died there in 1924 Her name was Bertha Winne. Judy

    11/08/2004 12:54:05
    1. Northampton State Hospital

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Paye, Abare Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4170 Message Board Post: How can I obtain my gggrandmothers records from Northampton State Hospital from the year of 1918 when she died.

    11/07/2004 11:14:17
    1. Lamb, Rawlins, Lawson, Woods, Bliss, Wright, ,Norton, Smith, Wise, Madocks, Kempton, Parker,
    2. Cynthia

    3. Kay: Why Essex Co ? none of the towns are in Essex Co. I have posted to the following: Mass Bay Colony , Middlesex, MaHampden , lists . You may want to post to Suffolk County (Mass.) - DIRECTORY OF THE HEADS OF NEW ENGLAND FAMILIES, 1620-1700; Frank R.Holmes, NY,1923 Lamb, Edward: resident of Watertown, 1633 Lamb, Thomas: merchant, came to New England,1630, settled at Roxbury Lawson,Henry: ...not listed in this book Rawlins, Thomas: brother of Jasper; resident of Roxbury,1630; removed Winthrop,Mass,1639; then Scituate,Mass and later Boston,Mass Woods, William: author of "New England's Prospect", b. Eng.1582, came from Matlock,Derbyshire,Eng.to Salem,Mass,1629; returned to England 1633; settled at Concord,Mass,1638 where he died in 1671. ====================================================== BONDS GENEALOGIES AND HISTORY OF WATERTOWN; 2d edition, Boston, 1860 page 329 The name could be spelled Lamb or Lam Edward Lamb, was an early proprietor of Watertown, probably in 1630. By wife Margaret, he had: i. Hannah, b. Dec.27,1633 ii. Mary, buried Nov. 10,1635, aged 2 months iii. Samuel, b. Ap.3,1637 iv. Mary, b. Ap. 30,1639 v./vi. John and Increase (twins)buried Feb. 20,1639-40 March 14,1647/8 he sold to Charles Stearns, a house and 8 acres; also 25 acres of divided land; also 4 acres in the hither plain, and 7-1/2 acres in lien of township. He probably moved from Watertown about that time. ========================================================== THE GREAT MIGRATION BEGINS; Immigrants to New England,1620-1633, Vol.II; Robert Charles Anderson, N.E.H.G.S.,1995 page: 1151 - (will give only BASIC info here due to copyrite laws; you can find this book in major libraries) - EDWARD LAMB Origins: unknown migration: 1633 First Residence: Watertown Removes: Boston by 1648 Birth: about 1608 death: prob. Boston, between 27 June 1648(bapt. of dau. Elizabeth) and 1650 (widow remarried, Samuel Allen of Braintree) marriage: by 1633, Margaret_____(birth of first child in 1633) children: i. Hannah, Watertown, 27 Dec.1633... no further record ii. Mary, bur.Wa.,10 Nov 1635, aged 2 months iii. Samuel, b. Wa., 3 April 1637 .no further record iv. Mary, b. Wa. 30 April 1639...no further record v. John (twin) bur. Wa. 20 Feb. 1639/40...7 days old vi. Increase (twin) bur. Wa., 20 Feb 1639/40....7 days old vii. (probably) John, b. about 1642; m. (1) Mary (French) Poole. (2) Lydia.... viii. (poss.) Sarah, about 1644; mar. Braintree, 27 July 1664, Stephen Scott ix. Elizabeth, b. about 16 June., bapt. Boston 27 June 1648........ ---------------------------------------------------- same book, page 1153: THOMAS LAMB Origins: possibly Barnardiston, Suffolk (The orgins of Thomas Lamb are not conclusive.........) Migration: 1630 ffirst resident: Roxbury occupation: yeoman, possibly slater church membership: yes Freeman: 19 Oct 1630 and admitted 18 May 1631 estate: .......too much to list birth: about 1599 death: Roxbury, 28 March 1646 marriage: (1) Elizabeth______ 1624 (2) Dorothy Harbitle, 16 July 1640 (remarried - Thomas Hawley, 1651/2) children: i. Thomas...(poss).born in Eng., bapt. 1624, raised in Charlestown,Mass. ii. (?) Susan, b. in Eng, bapt 1626; if child of Thomas, may have died before 1630 iii. John, poss. Eng 1628; married Joanna_____; lived in Springfield (2/w: Lydia (Wright) (Bliss)Norton. iv. Samuel, b. Roxbury, abt OCt 1630 and bapt at church in Dorchester v. Abel, b. about Aug 1633; bur. in Cambridge vi. Decline, b. April 1637(called 1st dau), mar. Stephen Smith,1633 in Charlestown vii. Benjamin b.and d. same day, Oct 1639; b bur. 28 Nov.1639 (wife died with child) auth.thinks records in error ------------- 2d wife: viii. Caleb, b. 9 Apr. 1641; m. Roxbury, 30 June 1669, Mary Wise ix. Joshua, b. 27 Nov 1642; mar. Mary Alcock, dau of John. x. Mary, bp. 29 Sept. 1644; mar. by 1665 Thomas Swan; (2) John Bayley after July 1697. xi. Abiel: b 15 Aug. 1646; m. by 28 Feb. 1674, Elizabeth (Clark) Buckminster. ============================================================================= THE GREAT MIGRATION BEGINS; Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633; Vol.III; Robert C. Anderson, N.E.H.G.S., 1995 page: 1557 THOMAS RAWLINS: Origins: unknown Migration: 1630 first res. Roxbury removes: Dorchester by 1634; Scituate 1638; Boston 1652 occupation: planter, carpenter, housewright church: Roxbury Ch. member #7 freeman: requested 19 Oct 1630; admitted 18 May 1631 education: signed name to deeds as did first wife,Sarah offices: several estate....spelled Raulins of Scituate......Rawelines at Dorchester........more info birth: abt 1593 death: Boston, 15 March 1659/60 marriage: by 1632,(but by 1618 IF she was mother of all children), Mary________; churchmember #47 (2) after 1639________ (3) Boston, 2 May 1656 Sarah Madocks of Roxbury, a widow children: i. Thomas, about 1618; died much after Dec. 12,1681 ii. Mary, about 1620; m. Scituate, April 1639, William Parker iii. Joanna, about 1624; married Scituate, 28 Jan 1645/46, Ephriam Kenton iv. Nathaniel, b.about 1626; m. Scituate, 4 Sept. 1652, Lydia Sylvester, dau of Richard. v. John, about 1628; came with father to New England according to Eliot, no further record associations: Savage suggests that Thomas was brother of Jasper, but no records of Thomas are found in Ingatestone,Jasper's English home. comments: Thomas raised his sister, Joanna Kempton 's children as Joanna and Ephriam died young. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- same book: No William Wood of Boston ==================================================================== No mention of the N.Carolina in the books........... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Lamb" <kathleenlamb1@comcast.net> To: <MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 12:07 PM Subject: [MAESSEX] Lamb, Rawlins, Lawson, Woods > Does anyone have any further information on the following people who came in > the Winthrop fleet? > > Edward LAMB of Watertown > > Thomas LAMB of Roxbury > > Henry LAWSON > > Thomas RAWLINS of Roxbury > > William WOODS of Boston > > Our Henry Lamb family, who came into North Carolina by 1715, look like they > came from the Mass. Lamb family. They were Quakers. They connect to all > those with last names as shown above. The Lamb's also look like they > connect to a man named Nicholas Paige of Mass. in 1600's. who bought Roanoke > Island from Joshua Lamb of Boston and NC. The Lamb's settled in NC very > near there. > > Kay Lamb > > >

    11/07/2004 12:35:29
    1. Re: Polish Community, 1910 Census, Union St, Holyoke, Ma

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/3486.1.2 Message Board Post: there is alos a polish Cemetary in Greenfield Mass Mater Dolorosa (up by the fair grounds)

    11/05/2004 01:53:09
    1. Warner - Barnum - Martin

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Martin Barnum Warner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/474.1 Message Board Post: My Martin family married into the Warner & Barnum family. Edward & Eliza Martin from Quebec Canada had a daughter Jane "Jennie" that married C.H. Warner and was in Springfield, Hampden, MA in 1911. Their daughter Sarah Martin born 1867 married a Barnum and had Edward born 1899 and Alan born 1902. Edward and Eliza moved from Durham Quebec to Troy, Renssaeler Co, New York in the mid 1800's. Edwards father was Thomas Martin born 1871.

    11/01/2004 12:23:33
    1. Arthur Martin b 1848 Canada Lived in Holyoke, MA in 1870

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Martin,Taylor,Stevens, Cummings Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4169 Message Board Post: Looking for descendants of Arthur Martin, son of Thomas Martin born 1781 and Sarah Cummings 1802 Lyndon, VT. Their children were born in Durham, Quebec, Canada and moved to MA & NY in mid to late 1800's. 1.Arthur-Albert M MARTIN-4398 was born on 28 Nov 1848 in Kirkdale, Richmond Co., Quebec, Canada..He died after 1909 in ?? Holyoke, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA . 1870 Census: Name: Arthur Martin Age in 1870: 22 Estimated Birth Year: 1847 Birthplace: Canada Home in 1870: Northampton, Hampshire, Massachusetts Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: Post Office: Northampton Roll: M593_621 Page: 368 Image: 277 Year: 1870 Arthur 22 (1848) Born Canada; Nellie 21 (1849) and Thomas 84 (1785) born England. 1870 Census Holyoke, Hampden, Massachusetts shows Arthur Martin 21 (1849) born Canada and Nellie L 21 (1849) born Nova Soctia with no Thomas. Ages indicate they are the same person, but one in Northampton, Hampshire and home in Holyoke, Hampden. 1880 Census: Holyoke, Hampden, MA. NH. Living at 21 Mosher Street Arthur M. MARTIN Self M Male W 31 (1849)CAN Works In Paper Mill ENG NH Nellie MARTIN Wife M Female (32)1848NOVA SCOTIA Louisa E. MARTIN Dau S Female W 7 (1873)NY CAN NS Bessie MARTIN Dau S Female W 4 (1876)ME CAN NS Source Information: 1880Census Place Holyoke, Hampden, MA Family History Library Film NA Film Number T9-0535 Page Number 126D 1920 Census: Name: May Martin Age: 35 years Estimated birth year: 1884 Birthplace: Vermont Race: White Home in 1920: Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts; Bert 14 (1906) Edward 11 (1909) Arthur had a second wife May Stevens Martin. This May is a widow and living in Hampden, MA. where Arthur was living with Nellie in 1880. So, this could be her. And the children could be Arthur's. She would have been 36 years younger, seems a lot. Arthur would have been 58 when Bert was born and 61 when Edward was born. May would have been 22 when Bert was born and 25 when Edward was born. Since Edward was the name of one of Arthur's older brothers, it adds to the credibility of this assumption. Arthur-Albert married (1-MRIN:1793) Nell "Nellie" TAYLOR-16658 . Nell was born in 1849 in Nova Scotia, Canada. They had the following children: 2Fi.Louisa E MARTIN-26870 was born in 1873 in New York, 2Fii Bessie MARTIN-26871 was born in 1876 in Maine, USA. Arthur-Albert married (2-MRIN:1794) May STEVENS-16659 about 1905 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA . May was born in 1884 in Vermont, USA . They had the following children: 4Miii.Bert MARTIN-14988 was born in 1906 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA . 5Miv.Edward MARTIN-27934 was born in 1909 in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA . (This may not be his second wife)

    11/01/2004 12:13:32
    1. Re: SMITH-RANSOM

    3. In a message dated 11/1/04 1:00:47 PM, MAHAMPDE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Loran B. Smith and Jerusha Ransom are my gr gr gr grandparents. > I had SMITH family in the Hampden Co. from about 1750 to at least 1830. Can you tell me more? Dates, town, etc.? E. W. Prichard

    11/01/2004 11:14:05
    1. Re: Boies

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BOIES BOIS BOYS BOYCE BOYCE DEBOYS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/370.391.1 Message Board Post: I am trying to locate a direct descendant from David BOIES who supposedly came from Northern Ireland, Ulster, probablly County Antrim. Please contact me.

    10/31/2004 05:02:35
    1. Re: Loran B. Smith

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith Ransom Walton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/820.1.1 Message Board Post: Loran B. Smith and Jerusha Ransom are my gr gr gr grandparents. Their daughter, Emily Jane Smith, and her husband, James Walton, my gr gr grandparents. Does anyone have any information on Loran or Jerusha's parents?

    10/31/2004 04:51:05
    1. Re: Obit look up Safford

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Obit for Safford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4167.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for your offer to look up Ruth Safford's obit for me, I shall wait to hear from you in due course, patience is part of being a genealogist! Thanks again.

    10/28/2004 07:19:47
    1. Re: Obit look up Safford

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4167.2 Message Board Post: Now that someone has been nice enough to give you the actual date of death, I can look up this obit for you. You'll have to be patient though - for the month of November I'll be working different hours at my job and I may not get to the library for a week or more. But when I go, I WILL look this up for you.

    10/28/2004 04:17:11
    1. Obit Safford

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Safford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4168 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information and actual date of death, every bit helps.

    10/28/2004 09:43:44
    1. Re: Obit look up Safford

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4167.1 Message Board Post: I don't have acess to obits but maybe this will help massachusetts death index ruth safford certificate # 052610 death place-springfield death date- nov 5, 1980 birthplace-new hampshire birth date-march 18, 1895

    10/28/2004 09:04:28
    1. Obit look up Safford

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Safford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VFB.2ACI/4167 Message Board Post: Is it possible for anyone to look up an obit. for Ruth Safford who died November 1980 in East Longmeadow, Hampden, Mass. Grateful for any help. Thanks. Sue

    10/28/2004 04:23:11
    1. Re: Holy Name of Jesus, South St. Chicopee

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VFB.2ACI/4154.3 Message Board Post: Prior to 1880 this was known as St. Matthew's Catholic Church. The original building is now a private residence. They assisted me with baptism records several years ago.

    10/27/2004 06:17:17
    1. Springfield (MA) Cemetery Tour Halloween
    2. Rusty Clark

    3. Greetings, I just saw in the newspaper that the Springfield Cemetery will have a guided tour starting at 1 pm, meeting at the crematorium, Sunday October 31st, 2004. Great place to visit - many interesting monuments and burials there. Oldest stones date to the very late 1600s. I'm sorry I can't make it! Rusty West Springfield Massachusetts - Stories Carved In Stone: http://www.dogpondpress.net/stone.html Old Bones Tombstone Gallery: http://www.oldbones.net/cpg/index.php?cat=10014 Hampden County Gravestones - By Request: http://community.webshots.com/album/144942496nAbLwF

    10/27/2004 05:44:49
    1. Re: [KINGS] New England Planters: Stiles, Porter, Somers/Sommers, Trerice
    2. Cynthia

    3. Hi Bob: Let's see if some of the information I have helps. These are earlier than what you have listed, but keep the info for future ref. I have included the mailing lists that may be of help......try them. -- PIONEERS OF MASSACHUSETTS(1620-1650);Charles H.Pope, Boston,1900. STILES: In some old records the name was STILEMAN... i. Elias, Sr. of Salem, freeman July 3,1632; proprietor 1636. Elias JR, father iin 1639; Hannah admistratrix; church member 27 (2) 1651; removed to New Hampshire; recorder of deeds, etc. His estate was admin. 26 (9)1663. FYI: the dates are of the old calendar. (2)represents April. (9) was November. ==================================================== PLANTERS OF THE COMMONWEALTH(1620-1640); Charles E.Banks, Boston,1930 (this book also gives SHIPS,dates of arrival, if you want them, leave this info intact and return to me privately BUNNYDUST@COMAST.NET ) - STILES: spelled Stilles (page 129) 1. STILES: John Stiles, aged 33 of Millbrook,County Bedford (Eng); to Windsor, Conn Mrs. Joan Stiles, aged 35 Children: Henry 3...John 9 months, Also included with family: Jane Morden aged 30 and Thomas Barber aged 21. ---------------------------- 2. STILEMAN (page 82): Elias Stileman of Saint Andrew Undershaft,London; to Salem; Mrs. Judith Stileman Elias, Jr. --------------------- PORTER: page 128: A Richard Porter aged 3_,came over with Richard Wade family.,settled at Dorchester,Mass. page 196: Roger Porter, aged 55 of Long Sutton, Hants ...to Watertown Joan Porter, Susan Porter, Mary Porter, and Rose Porter page 80: John Porter , perhaps of Bromfield, Sussex to Roxbury,Mass with wife,Margaret and 4 other Porters (no first names) ----------- TRERICE (only place I found this name) page 140: Nicholas, was the master of "PLANTER", sailed from London April 10,1635 and arrived at Boston June 27. ============================== DIRECTORY OF THE HEADS OF NEW ENGLAND FAMILIES,1620-1700; Frank R.Holmes, New York, 1923 STILES , also spelled Styles 1.Francis; carpenter; son of Thomas of S. of Ampthill, co.Bedford,Eng. Born 1601; settled Dorchester,Mass,1635; moved to Windsor Conn,1636 then to Saybrook, Conn.,1647. 2. Henry: carpenter, eldest brother of Francis(#1); baptized Millbrookm Bedforshire,Eng.,1593. Settled at Dorchester Mass,1635; removed to Windsor,Conn.,1636; died there Oct.3, 1651 3. John, another brother, bapt. at Millbrook,Eng 1595; first at Dorchester,Mass,1635; then to Windsor,Conn., where he died June 1662. ----- (same book) SOMMERS also spelled Somes, Somers 1. John: at Marshfield, Mass1686 2. Morris, resident of Gloucester,Mass., 1642 ------ (same book) PORTER 1. Abel, resident of Boston, 1641 2. Daniel, settled at Farmington,Conn., before 1644 3. Edward, Roxbury,Mass 1636 4. Israel, freeman at Hadley,Mass,1684 5. John, came to N.E. 1630; settled Dorchester,moved to Windsor,Ct. 1635,died 1648 6. John, tanner,from Dorchester,Eng.to Boston,Mass. removed to Dorchester,Mass1635, after to Hingham,Mass,and to Danvers,Mass 1644 7. Jonthan, granted land at Salem,Mass,1637 8. Jonthan, resident of Salem,1636;, sergeant 1647; removed to Huntington, Long Is.(New York) before1660 9. Nathaniel, freeman 1637; living at Salem,1638 10. Richard, from Weymouth,Eng.to Weymouth,Mass,1635 11. Robert, one of first settlers of Farmington,Conn.,married 1644 12. Roger, husbandman, b. Eng 1583; came from Long Sutton, Co.Hants; Watertown,Mass 1638 13. Samuel, died at Salem,Mass 1659 13. Stephen, freeman Andover,Mass,1659 13. Thomas, married at Hartford,Mass. (northern border of Conn. was part of Mass until around 1740) In 1644 moved to Farmington,Conn. --------- NO Trerice.....is there another spelling ? ------------- Cynthia List administrator for: Ma-Bay-Colony-L@rootsweb.com Can-Deerfield-Attack-1704-L@rootsweb.com CtHartfo-L@rootsweb.com MaHampde-L@rootsweb.com http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Ma-Bay-Colony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Inhoff" <binhoff@mn.rr.com> To: <CAN-NS-KINGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: [KINGS] New England Planters: Stiles, Porter Researching: Stiles, Sommers, Porter, Trerice > England Planters: > > Nathan Stiles b1728, s. Josiah Stiles. b. 1766 m. Sophia Sommers > Elisha Porter, s of Samuel and Remember Porter, d. Rhoda Porter, b 1762 > Ancestors of my wife's grandmother, Angie Stiles, b. 1882 in Amherst, NS > We enjoyed our visit to the Kings County Museum in Kentville this past July. > Bob and Ruth Inhoff..... Eden Prairie, MN > ==== CAN-NS-KINGS Mailing List ==== > The posting address for this mailing list is: > CAN-NS-KINGS-L@rootsweb.com

    10/24/2004 12:21:12