Hi Paul, The Charlemont, MA Rices descend from Edmund-1. Most of these lines have been documented by the Edmund Rice Assn. "Sylvanus RICE, born Jan. 6, 1729; died in March, 1819; wed Esther Mins; captain, Massachusetts, is listed in 'Chapter Four Directory of Rice Revolutionary War Soldiers'. Source is "Book One: The Rice Family Celebrating Our Diversity", pages 116 and 161 which I have here. Cheers, Jan Jordan in VT