Martha Have you typed in Winchester genealogy on google? Sure seems to be a lot of information there. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > Hi, Bonnie, > Yes, I agree regarding the religious upheaval. I believe that elder > Elhanan Winchester went through 4 conversions ending up of course as a > Shaker. While Preacher Elhanan was alive, he like so many other > Winchesters followed the "New Light" sect until that disintegrated. I > believe that Elder Winchester was also a Baptist and a Methodist. I > read one account, I think in the History of Brookline, which indicated > that he, the Elder, was a man of few convictions and was easily > influenced by others until he became a Shaker. Interesting but > frustrating family! > Martha > On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > >> Hi Martha >> Just another thought!! >> How many denominations did Elder Elhanan Winchester go through? I >> think I >> found 4. >> Wouldn't surprise me if your Elhanan did the same. >> >> That period in time was one of great religious upheaval. >> Most religions were fighting for membership, and everyone seemed to be >> slandering the other. >> >> Bonnie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >> >> >>> Hi, Bonnie, >>> I wish I knew who Liberty was. In my experience and in browsing >>> through the Mass VR Liberty is generally a male. However, I did find >>> a >>> record somewhere (can't put my hands on it at the moment) of the >>> marriage of a Liberty Stone (female in St. Johnsbury, Vt.) which I >>> thought was interesting, at least regarding the time frame. One of >>> Elhanan's children indicated on her marriage record that her mother's >>> surname was Pierce, but since I know that is not true, I am >>> speculating >>> that Pierce may have been the surname of Elhanan's mother (pure >>> speculation). Somewhere, probably on line without documentation, is a >>> notation of a Charles Winchester marrying a Lucy Pierce who was born >>> in >>> 1755 and died in 1793 which was before Elhanan was born if the death >>> record is anywhere near correct. (I wish people would indicate their >>> sources). The given name of Lucy is of interest as Elhanan married >>> Lucy Whittum and had a daughter Lucy or Lucia. Seems there is a >>> possibility that his mom was also a Lucy. Could Liberty be a nickname >>> for Lucy? >>> I do not think that Charles would have been a shaker as the History of >>> Rowe lists him as a member (pew seat) in the meeting house which would >>> have been the Congregational church, probably the only church in Rowe >>> at that time circa 1808/9. I have considered the possibility that >>> Elhanan may have been an illegitimate child, the product of Charles' >>> activities between marriages. >>> I appreciate your thoughts. Sometimes two heads are better than one! >>> Martha >>> On Sep 11, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> I found the marriage record, Elhana., a 43y., farmer, s. Charles and >>>> Liberty, and Priscilla Flynn, wid., a 39 y., d. Ezekiel and Betsey A. >>>> Wentworth, Aug. 1, 1847. >>>> >>>> Do you have any idea who Liberty was? >>>> >>>> Also, he was of the shaker religion, have you looked into that? >>>> >>>> Sorry if I am driving you nuts, but I have been a genealogist for 40 >>>> years, >>>> and believe that you can never leave a leaf unturned. >>>> Assumptions just don't catch my interest. Thank you for giving the >>>> details. >>>> >>>> Bonnie >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:18 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>> >>>> >>>>> I know that my Elhanan Winthrop Winchester was born Nov. 10, 1803 >>>>> according to his gravestone in a Lowell Cemetery. He died Jan. 1, >>>>> 1879. He was "married" to Lucy Whittum, and they lived in >>>>> Lancaster, >>>>> NH and had 5 children. A marriage record for them has not been >>>>> found. >>>>> Many Lancaster records were destroyed by fire. He left Lancaster >>>>> in >>>>> about 1847 and married Priscilla Wentworth Flynn in Chelmsford as >>>>> you >>>>> mentioned. That marriage record is where the information about >>>>> Charles >>>>> comes from. By process of elimination I have narrowed the >>>>> possibilities down to the Charles who was born in Brookline. >>>>> Various >>>>> records indicate that Elhanan was born in New Hampshire or Vermont. >>>>> His death record with information supplied by a child by his second >>>>> marriage who may not have been too knowledgeable indicates that he >>>>> was >>>>> born in Springfield, Vt. I have checked the vital records of >>>>> Springfield and all surrounding towns and have found nothing. The >>>>> only >>>>> Charles Winchester living during that time frame who went to Vermont >>>>> is >>>>> Charles of Brookline. The migratory path takes him from Franklin >>>>> Co., >>>>> Mass. to Bennington, Vt. That is about all I know. Seems to me >>>>> that >>>>> my questions are very relevant. >>>>> Martha >>>>> On Sep 10, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you are looking for a different Elhanan, born later, why didn't >>>>>> you >>>>>> give >>>>>> the details for him? >>>>>> >>>>>> There were a lot of Winchesters, from NH as well as MA, and CT. >>>>>> How >>>>>> do you >>>>>> know that Charles may be the father of the one you are looking for. >>>>>> >>>>>> Usually people ask relevent questions, and I can't see that you are >>>>>> doing >>>>>> that. Normally people list what they know, not what they assume. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:38 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> You will note in my original post, but I am speculating that this >>>>>>> Charles was the father of my ancestor Elhanan and am attempting to >>>>>>> link these two generations not the ones that came before. If I >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> identify all of the wives of this Charles and his children I might >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> the answer to the puzzle. You will note that my question did not >>>>>>> pertain to Charles' lineage but rather pertained to whether or >>>>>>> note >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> is this Charles who was first married to Lucy Upton and then to >>>>>>> Irene >>>>>>> Rice!! >>>>>>> Martha >>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my library >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> Books We >>>>>>>> Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to >>>>>>>> help, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> have not been told the truth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bonnie, >>>>>>>>> Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>> first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! >>>>>>>>> Martha >>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Martha >>>>>>>>>> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >>>>>>>>>> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", >>>>>>>>>> NEHGS >>>>>>>>>> vol. >>>>>>>>>> 78, >>>>>>>>>> pages 18-19. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>>>>>> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in >>>>>>>>>>> Rowe >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in >>>>>>>>>>> Warwick >>>>>>>>>>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His >>>>>>>>>>> intentions >>>>>>>>>>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is >>>>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or >>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>> wife >>>>>>>>>>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War >>>>>>>>>>> pension. >>>>>>>>>>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my >>>>>>>>>>> ancestor >>>>>>>>>>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read >>>>>>>>>>> various >>>>>>>>>>> sources >>>>>>>>>>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy >>>>>>>>>>> Upton >>>>>>>>>>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, >>>>>>>>>>> New >>>>>>>>>>> York >>>>>>>>>>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave >>>>>>>>>>> him, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> were there any children? >>>>>>>>>>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be >>>>>>>>>>> greatly >>>>>>>>>>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> Franklin County. >>>>>>>>>>> Martha Altemus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie, Yes, I have. Been there; done that. Martha On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > Martha > Have you typed in Winchester genealogy on google? > Sure seems to be a lot of information there. > > Bonnie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> > To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > > >> Hi, Bonnie, >> Yes, I agree regarding the religious upheaval. I believe that elder >> Elhanan Winchester went through 4 conversions ending up of course as a >> Shaker. While Preacher Elhanan was alive, he like so many other >> Winchesters followed the "New Light" sect until that disintegrated. I >> believe that Elder Winchester was also a Baptist and a Methodist. I >> read one account, I think in the History of Brookline, which indicated >> that he, the Elder, was a man of few convictions and was easily >> influenced by others until he became a Shaker. Interesting but >> frustrating family! >> Martha >> On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >> >>> Hi Martha >>> Just another thought!! >>> How many denominations did Elder Elhanan Winchester go through? I >>> think I >>> found 4. >>> Wouldn't surprise me if your Elhanan did the same. >>> >>> That period in time was one of great religious upheaval. >>> Most religions were fighting for membership, and everyone seemed to >>> be >>> slandering the other. >>> >>> Bonnie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>> >>> >>>> Hi, Bonnie, >>>> I wish I knew who Liberty was. In my experience and in browsing >>>> through the Mass VR Liberty is generally a male. However, I did >>>> find >>>> a >>>> record somewhere (can't put my hands on it at the moment) of the >>>> marriage of a Liberty Stone (female in St. Johnsbury, Vt.) which I >>>> thought was interesting, at least regarding the time frame. One of >>>> Elhanan's children indicated on her marriage record that her >>>> mother's >>>> surname was Pierce, but since I know that is not true, I am >>>> speculating >>>> that Pierce may have been the surname of Elhanan's mother (pure >>>> speculation). Somewhere, probably on line without documentation, >>>> is a >>>> notation of a Charles Winchester marrying a Lucy Pierce who was born >>>> in >>>> 1755 and died in 1793 which was before Elhanan was born if the death >>>> record is anywhere near correct. (I wish people would indicate >>>> their >>>> sources). The given name of Lucy is of interest as Elhanan married >>>> Lucy Whittum and had a daughter Lucy or Lucia. Seems there is a >>>> possibility that his mom was also a Lucy. Could Liberty be a >>>> nickname >>>> for Lucy? >>>> I do not think that Charles would have been a shaker as the History >>>> of >>>> Rowe lists him as a member (pew seat) in the meeting house which >>>> would >>>> have been the Congregational church, probably the only church in >>>> Rowe >>>> at that time circa 1808/9. I have considered the possibility that >>>> Elhanan may have been an illegitimate child, the product of Charles' >>>> activities between marriages. >>>> I appreciate your thoughts. Sometimes two heads are better than >>>> one! >>>> Martha >>>> On Sep 11, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> I found the marriage record, Elhana., a 43y., farmer, s. Charles >>>>> and >>>>> Liberty, and Priscilla Flynn, wid., a 39 y., d. Ezekiel and Betsey >>>>> A. >>>>> Wentworth, Aug. 1, 1847. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have any idea who Liberty was? >>>>> >>>>> Also, he was of the shaker religion, have you looked into that? >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if I am driving you nuts, but I have been a genealogist for >>>>> 40 >>>>> years, >>>>> and believe that you can never leave a leaf unturned. >>>>> Assumptions just don't catch my interest. Thank you for giving the >>>>> details. >>>>> >>>>> Bonnie >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:18 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I know that my Elhanan Winthrop Winchester was born Nov. 10, 1803 >>>>>> according to his gravestone in a Lowell Cemetery. He died Jan. 1, >>>>>> 1879. He was "married" to Lucy Whittum, and they lived in >>>>>> Lancaster, >>>>>> NH and had 5 children. A marriage record for them has not been >>>>>> found. >>>>>> Many Lancaster records were destroyed by fire. He left Lancaster >>>>>> in >>>>>> about 1847 and married Priscilla Wentworth Flynn in Chelmsford as >>>>>> you >>>>>> mentioned. That marriage record is where the information about >>>>>> Charles >>>>>> comes from. By process of elimination I have narrowed the >>>>>> possibilities down to the Charles who was born in Brookline. >>>>>> Various >>>>>> records indicate that Elhanan was born in New Hampshire or >>>>>> Vermont. >>>>>> His death record with information supplied by a child by his >>>>>> second >>>>>> marriage who may not have been too knowledgeable indicates that >>>>>> he >>>>>> was >>>>>> born in Springfield, Vt. I have checked the vital records of >>>>>> Springfield and all surrounding towns and have found nothing. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> Charles Winchester living during that time frame who went to >>>>>> Vermont >>>>>> is >>>>>> Charles of Brookline. The migratory path takes him from Franklin >>>>>> Co., >>>>>> Mass. to Bennington, Vt. That is about all I know. Seems to me >>>>>> that >>>>>> my questions are very relevant. >>>>>> Martha >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are looking for a different Elhanan, born later, why >>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> give >>>>>>> the details for him? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There were a lot of Winchesters, from NH as well as MA, and CT. >>>>>>> How >>>>>>> do you >>>>>>> know that Charles may be the father of the one you are looking >>>>>>> for. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Usually people ask relevent questions, and I can't see that you >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> doing >>>>>>> that. Normally people list what they know, not what they assume. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:38 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You will note in my original post, but I am speculating that >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> Charles was the father of my ancestor Elhanan and am attempting >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> link these two generations not the ones that came before. If I >>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>> identify all of the wives of this Charles and his children I >>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> the answer to the puzzle. You will note that my question did >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> pertain to Charles' lineage but rather pertained to whether or >>>>>>>> note >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> is this Charles who was first married to Lucy Upton and then to >>>>>>>> Irene >>>>>>>> Rice!! >>>>>>>> Martha >>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my >>>>>>>>> library >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> Books We >>>>>>>>> Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to >>>>>>>>> help, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> have not been told the truth. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>>>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bonnie, >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>> first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! >>>>>>>>>> Martha >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Martha >>>>>>>>>>> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >>>>>>>>>>> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", >>>>>>>>>>> NEHGS >>>>>>>>>>> vol. >>>>>>>>>>> 78, >>>>>>>>>>> pages 18-19. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in >>>>>>>>>>>> Rowe >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> Warwick >>>>>>>>>>>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His >>>>>>>>>>>> intentions >>>>>>>>>>>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is >>>>>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or >>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>> wife >>>>>>>>>>>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in >>>>>>>>>>>> 1824 >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War >>>>>>>>>>>> pension. >>>>>>>>>>>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in >>>>>>>>>>>> 1749. >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my >>>>>>>>>>>> ancestor >>>>>>>>>>>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read >>>>>>>>>>>> various >>>>>>>>>>>> sources >>>>>>>>>>>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and >>>>>>>>>>>> Lucy >>>>>>>>>>>> Upton >>>>>>>>>>>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda >>>>>>>>>>>> County, >>>>>>>>>>>> New >>>>>>>>>>>> York >>>>>>>>>>>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. >>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she >>>>>>>>>>>> leave >>>>>>>>>>>> him, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> were there any children? >>>>>>>>>>>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be >>>>>>>>>>>> greatly >>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies >>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> Franklin County. >>>>>>>>>>>> Martha Altemus >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >