If his name is Winthrop Don't you think that your should seek out the other Winthrop's? There are many withrop sites, and descendants. Maybe you should got there. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > Hi > I found the marriage record, Elhanan widr., a 43y., farmer, s. Charles and > Liberty, and Priscilla Flynn, wid., a 39 y., d. Ezekiel and Betsey A. > Wentworth, Aug. 1, 1847. > > Do you have any idea who Liberty was? > > Also, he was of the shaker religion, have you looked into that? > > Sorry if I am driving you nuts, but I have been a genealogist for 40 > years, > and believe that you can never leave a leaf unturned. > Assumptions just don't catch my interest. Thank you for giving the > details. > > Bonnie > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> > To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:18 AM > Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > > >>I know that my Elhanan Winthrop Winchester was born Nov. 10, 1803 >> according to his gravestone in a Lowell Cemetery. He died Jan. 1, >> 1879. He was "married" to Lucy Whittum, and they lived in Lancaster, >> NH and had 5 children. A marriage record for them has not been found. >> Many Lancaster records were destroyed by fire. He left Lancaster in >> about 1847 and married Priscilla Wentworth Flynn in Chelmsford as you >> mentioned. That marriage record is where the information about Charles >> comes from. By process of elimination I have narrowed the >> possibilities down to the Charles who was born in Brookline. Various >> records indicate that Elhanan was born in New Hampshire or Vermont. >> His death record with information supplied by a child by his second >> marriage who may not have been too knowledgeable indicates that he was >> born in Springfield, Vt. I have checked the vital records of >> Springfield and all surrounding towns and have found nothing. The only >> Charles Winchester living during that time frame who went to Vermont is >> Charles of Brookline. The migratory path takes him from Franklin Co., >> Mass. to Bennington, Vt. That is about all I know. Seems to me that >> my questions are very relevant. >> Martha >> On Sep 10, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >> >>> If you are looking for a different Elhanan, born later, why didn't you >>> give >>> the details for him? >>> >>> There were a lot of Winchesters, from NH as well as MA, and CT. How >>> do you >>> know that Charles may be the father of the one you are looking for. >>> >>> Usually people ask relevent questions, and I can't see that you are >>> doing >>> that. Normally people list what they know, not what they assume. >>> >>> Bonnie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>> >>> >>>> You will note in my original post, but I am speculating that this >>>> Charles was the father of my ancestor Elhanan and am attempting to >>>> link these two generations not the ones that came before. If I could >>>> identify all of the wives of this Charles and his children I might >>>> have >>>> the answer to the puzzle. You will note that my question did not >>>> pertain to Charles' lineage but rather pertained to whether or note it >>>> is this Charles who was first married to Lucy Upton and then to Irene >>>> Rice!! >>>> Martha >>>> On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? >>>>> >>>>> I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my library on >>>>> Books We >>>>> Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to help, >>>>> and >>>>> have not been told the truth. >>>>> >>>>> Bonnie >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bonnie, >>>>>> Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information about >>>>>> his >>>>>> first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! >>>>>> Martha >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Martha >>>>>>> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >>>>>>> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS >>>>>>> vol. >>>>>>> 78, >>>>>>> pages 18-19. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>>> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in >>>>>>>> Warwick >>>>>>>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His >>>>>>>> intentions >>>>>>>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his >>>>>>>> wife >>>>>>>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in >>>>>>>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War >>>>>>>> pension. >>>>>>>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I >>>>>>>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor >>>>>>>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various >>>>>>>> sources >>>>>>>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy >>>>>>>> Upton >>>>>>>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New >>>>>>>> York >>>>>>>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John >>>>>>>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave >>>>>>>> him, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> were there any children? >>>>>>>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly >>>>>>>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in >>>>>>>> Franklin County. >>>>>>>> Martha Altemus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I found the marriage record, Elhanan widr., a 43y., farmer, s. Charles and Liberty, and Priscilla Flynn, wid., a 39 y., d. Ezekiel and Betsey A. Wentworth, Aug. 1, 1847. Do you have any idea who Liberty was? Also, he was of the shaker religion, have you looked into that? Sorry if I am driving you nuts, but I have been a genealogist for 40 years, and believe that you can never leave a leaf unturned. Assumptions just don't catch my interest. Thank you for giving the details. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >I know that my Elhanan Winthrop Winchester was born Nov. 10, 1803 > according to his gravestone in a Lowell Cemetery. He died Jan. 1, > 1879. He was "married" to Lucy Whittum, and they lived in Lancaster, > NH and had 5 children. A marriage record for them has not been found. > Many Lancaster records were destroyed by fire. He left Lancaster in > about 1847 and married Priscilla Wentworth Flynn in Chelmsford as you > mentioned. That marriage record is where the information about Charles > comes from. By process of elimination I have narrowed the > possibilities down to the Charles who was born in Brookline. Various > records indicate that Elhanan was born in New Hampshire or Vermont. > His death record with information supplied by a child by his second > marriage who may not have been too knowledgeable indicates that he was > born in Springfield, Vt. I have checked the vital records of > Springfield and all surrounding towns and have found nothing. The only > Charles Winchester living during that time frame who went to Vermont is > Charles of Brookline. The migratory path takes him from Franklin Co., > Mass. to Bennington, Vt. That is about all I know. Seems to me that > my questions are very relevant. > Martha > On Sep 10, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > >> If you are looking for a different Elhanan, born later, why didn't you >> give >> the details for him? >> >> There were a lot of Winchesters, from NH as well as MA, and CT. How >> do you >> know that Charles may be the father of the one you are looking for. >> >> Usually people ask relevent questions, and I can't see that you are >> doing >> that. Normally people list what they know, not what they assume. >> >> Bonnie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >> >> >>> You will note in my original post, but I am speculating that this >>> Charles was the father of my ancestor Elhanan and am attempting to >>> link these two generations not the ones that came before. If I could >>> identify all of the wives of this Charles and his children I might >>> have >>> the answer to the puzzle. You will note that my question did not >>> pertain to Charles' lineage but rather pertained to whether or note it >>> is this Charles who was first married to Lucy Upton and then to Irene >>> Rice!! >>> Martha >>> On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>> >>>> If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? >>>> >>>> I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my library on >>>> Books We >>>> Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to help, >>>> and >>>> have not been told the truth. >>>> >>>> Bonnie >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>> >>>> >>>>> Bonnie, >>>>> Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information about >>>>> his >>>>> first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! >>>>> Martha >>>>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Martha >>>>>> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >>>>>> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >>>>>> >>>>>> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS >>>>>> vol. >>>>>> 78, >>>>>> pages 18-19. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bonnie >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>>> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >>>>>> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in >>>>>>> Warwick >>>>>>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His >>>>>>> intentions >>>>>>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his >>>>>>> wife >>>>>>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in >>>>>>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War >>>>>>> pension. >>>>>>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I >>>>>>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor >>>>>>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various >>>>>>> sources >>>>>>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy >>>>>>> Upton >>>>>>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New >>>>>>> York >>>>>>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John >>>>>>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave >>>>>>> him, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> were there any children? >>>>>>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly >>>>>>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in >>>>>>> Franklin County. >>>>>>> Martha Altemus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know that my Elhanan Winthrop Winchester was born Nov. 10, 1803 according to his gravestone in a Lowell Cemetery. He died Jan. 1, 1879. He was "married" to Lucy Whittum, and they lived in Lancaster, NH and had 5 children. A marriage record for them has not been found. Many Lancaster records were destroyed by fire. He left Lancaster in about 1847 and married Priscilla Wentworth Flynn in Chelmsford as you mentioned. That marriage record is where the information about Charles comes from. By process of elimination I have narrowed the possibilities down to the Charles who was born in Brookline. Various records indicate that Elhanan was born in New Hampshire or Vermont. His death record with information supplied by a child by his second marriage who may not have been too knowledgeable indicates that he was born in Springfield, Vt. I have checked the vital records of Springfield and all surrounding towns and have found nothing. The only Charles Winchester living during that time frame who went to Vermont is Charles of Brookline. The migratory path takes him from Franklin Co., Mass. to Bennington, Vt. That is about all I know. Seems to me that my questions are very relevant. Martha On Sep 10, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > If you are looking for a different Elhanan, born later, why didn't you > give > the details for him? > > There were a lot of Winchesters, from NH as well as MA, and CT. How > do you > know that Charles may be the father of the one you are looking for. > > Usually people ask relevent questions, and I can't see that you are > doing > that. Normally people list what they know, not what they assume. > > Bonnie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> > To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > > >> You will note in my original post, but I am speculating that this >> Charles was the father of my ancestor Elhanan and am attempting to >> link these two generations not the ones that came before. If I could >> identify all of the wives of this Charles and his children I might >> have >> the answer to the puzzle. You will note that my question did not >> pertain to Charles' lineage but rather pertained to whether or note it >> is this Charles who was first married to Lucy Upton and then to Irene >> Rice!! >> Martha >> On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >> >>> If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? >>> >>> I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my library on >>> Books We >>> Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to help, >>> and >>> have not been told the truth. >>> >>> Bonnie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>> >>> >>>> Bonnie, >>>> Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information about >>>> his >>>> first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! >>>> Martha >>>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Martha >>>>> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >>>>> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >>>>> >>>>> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS >>>>> vol. >>>>> 78, >>>>> pages 18-19. >>>>> >>>>> Bonnie >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>>> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >>>>> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe >>>>>> and >>>>>> I >>>>>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in >>>>>> Warwick >>>>>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His >>>>>> intentions >>>>>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and >>>>>> they >>>>>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found >>>>>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his >>>>>> wife >>>>>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in >>>>>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War >>>>>> pension. >>>>>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I >>>>>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor >>>>>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various >>>>>> sources >>>>>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy >>>>>> Upton >>>>>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New >>>>>> York >>>>>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John >>>>>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave >>>>>> him, >>>>>> and >>>>>> were there any children? >>>>>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly >>>>>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in >>>>>> Franklin County. >>>>>> Martha Altemus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If anyone is interested, there was a DENIO family in Roseville, CA. Their business was a very successful auction facility, where many people rented booths to sell their goods, not ALL were commercial. Laura Dunwald ----- Original Message ----- From: <pwallred@frontiernet.net> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:41 PM Subject: [MAFRANKL] DENIO Genealogy >I have merged the 1st four generations for Aaron Denio in my database. >This added 1,249 descendants and 289 families. > > If you have an interest in any family members with the surname "Denio", > please forward a name and event (birth, marriage, death)information and I > will see if I have information in the database. > > The primary source came from: A Genealogy of Aaron Denio of Deerfield > Massachusetts 1704 - 1925, by francis Brigham Denio, D.D. and herbert > Williams Denio, A. M., Published by Capital City Press, Montpelier, > Vermont, 1926. > > Additional information has come from other sources and "old" printed > genealogies. > > Regards, > Paul Allred > > > ==== MAFRANKL Mailing List ==== > Franklin County, MA Message Board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.franklin >

If you are looking for a different Elhanan, born later, why didn't you give the details for him? There were a lot of Winchesters, from NH as well as MA, and CT. How do you know that Charles may be the father of the one you are looking for. Usually people ask relevent questions, and I can't see that you are doing that. Normally people list what they know, not what they assume. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > You will note in my original post, but I am speculating that this > Charles was the father of my ancestor Elhanan and am attempting to > link these two generations not the ones that came before. If I could > identify all of the wives of this Charles and his children I might have > the answer to the puzzle. You will note that my question did not > pertain to Charles' lineage but rather pertained to whether or note it > is this Charles who was first married to Lucy Upton and then to Irene > Rice!! > Martha > On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > >> If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? >> >> I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my library on >> Books We >> Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to help, >> and >> have not been told the truth. >> >> Bonnie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >> >> >>> Bonnie, >>> Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information about his >>> first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! >>> Martha >>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Martha >>>> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >>>> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >>>> >>>> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS vol. >>>> 78, >>>> pages 18-19. >>>> >>>> Bonnie >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>>> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >>>> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe and >>>>> I >>>>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in >>>>> Warwick >>>>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His >>>>> intentions >>>>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and >>>>> they >>>>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found in >>>>> the >>>>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his wife >>>>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in >>>>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War pension. >>>>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I >>>>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor >>>>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various >>>>> sources >>>>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy Upton >>>>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New >>>>> York >>>>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John >>>>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave him, >>>>> and >>>>> were there any children? >>>>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly >>>>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in >>>>> Franklin County. >>>>> Martha Altemus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carter, White Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4EB.2ACE/1052 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Calvin Carter, born about 1833 in Hardwick, Massachusetts to Silas J. Carter and Ruth Carter. I have in a collection of family papers, a wanted poster dating from 1873 or so that states: “Stop the murderer!” and lists a Lyman White as being the accused in this crime. Lyman White is also listed in the 1870 Federal Census as being fifty years old, occupation listed a farmer living in Shutesbury. Calvin Carter was my great-great grandfather; he lived in Petersham, Massachusetts. The 1870 Federal Census listed his occupation as a farmer. The Massachusetts Vital Records (1841-1910) records a death in Shutesbury, MA, on May 14, 1871 of a Calvin Carter, age 38, cause of death is listed as a gun shot wound. My interest lies in obtaining any information regarding this case, especially if this “Lyman White” was ever brought to justice for this crime. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

You will note in my original post, but I am speculating that this Charles was the father of my ancestor Elhanan and am attempting to link these two generations not the ones that came before. If I could identify all of the wives of this Charles and his children I might have the answer to the puzzle. You will note that my question did not pertain to Charles' lineage but rather pertained to whether or note it is this Charles who was first married to Lucy Upton and then to Irene Rice!! Martha On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? > > I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my library on > Books We > Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to help, > and > have not been told the truth. > > Bonnie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> > To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM > Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > > >> Bonnie, >> Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information about his >> first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! >> Martha >> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: >> >>> Hi Martha >>> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >>> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >>> >>> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS vol. >>> 78, >>> pages 18-19. >>> >>> Bonnie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >>> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >>> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >>> >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe and >>>> I >>>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in >>>> Warwick >>>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His >>>> intentions >>>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and >>>> they >>>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found in >>>> the >>>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his wife >>>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in >>>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War pension. >>>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I >>>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor >>>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various >>>> sources >>>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy Upton >>>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New >>>> York >>>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John >>>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave him, >>>> and >>>> were there any children? >>>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly >>>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in >>>> Franklin County. >>>> Martha Altemus >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If you had this info, why did you allude to Elhanan? I do a lot of look ups for people, and am listed with my library on Books We Own, but I do get a bit miffed when I spend my time looking to help, and have not been told the truth. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> To: <mafrankl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:38 AM Subject: Re: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > Bonnie, > Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information about his > first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! > Martha > On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > >> Hi Martha >> Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, >> b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. >> >> He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS vol. >> 78, >> pages 18-19. >> >> Bonnie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> >> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM >> Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester >> >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe and I >>> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in Warwick >>> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His intentions >>> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and they >>> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found in >>> the >>> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his wife >>> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in >>> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War pension. >>> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I >>> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor >>> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various >>> sources >>> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy Upton >>> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New York >>> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John >>> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave him, >>> and >>> were there any children? >>> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly >>> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in >>> Franklin County. >>> Martha Altemus >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie, Yes, I have that information. I am looking for information about his first wife. He was 60 years old when he married Irena Rice! Martha On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Bonnie Weber wrote: > Hi Martha > Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, > b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. > > He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS vol. > 78, > pages 18-19. > > Bonnie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> > To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM > Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > > >> Hello everyone, >> My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe and I >> believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in Warwick >> until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His intentions >> to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and they >> were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found in >> the >> Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his wife >> had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in >> Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War pension. >> This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I >> believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor >> Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various >> sources >> which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy Upton >> bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New York >> per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John >> Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave him, >> and >> were there any children? >> Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly >> appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in >> Franklin County. >> Martha Altemus >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Martha Your Charles was the son of Isaac Winchester, m Irene?, b 14 Jan 1749, his descent is John, John, John, Isaac. He is listed in the book "Descendants of John Winchester", NEHGS vol. 78, pages 18-19. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARTHA ALTEMUS" <maltemus2@verizon.net> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: [MAFRANKL] Charles Winchester > Hello everyone, > My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe and I > believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in Warwick > until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His intentions > to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and they > were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found in the > Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his wife > had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in > Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War pension. > This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I > believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor > Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various sources > which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy Upton > bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New York > per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John > Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave him, and > were there any children? > Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly > appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in > Franklin County. > Martha Altemus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MAFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, My brick wall is Charles Winchester who lived variously in Rowe and I believe Charlemont although I have read that he owned lands in Warwick until about 1814 after which he relocated to Vermont. His intentions to marry Rene (Irena) Rice are recorded in Buckland in 1808, and they were married in 1809, but I know not where. In 1810 he is found in the Rowe census with four children indicating that either he or his wife had children at home by a previous marriage. He died in 1824 in Bennington Vt. after having applied for a Revolutionary War pension. This is the Charles Winchester born in Brookline Mass in 1749. I believe that it is this Charles who was the father of my ancestor Elhanan Winchester by an earlier marriage. I have read various sources which indicate a marriage between Charles Winchester and Lucy Upton bpt. Mar. 13,1763 who reportedly died in Rome, Oeinda County, New York per the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass. by John Adams Vinton. If this is the same Charles, when did she leave him, and were there any children? Any help in determining who his earlier wife was would be greatly appreciated. Seems clear to me that the answer lies somewhere in Franklin County. Martha Altemus

Dear Fellow Researchers $22 Million has been cut from the budget to our US Federal Archives: The National Archives and Records Administration. They are looking to limit the hours of operation at these facilities. Please see the link below to electronically sign the petition that was organized by the Federation of Genealogical Societies You will be able to read what other people have said (before or after signing) about the proposed new hours and what some researchers have suggested instead. These are the closest branches of the National Archives (NARA) to Connecticut: Waltham (Boston) MA, Pittsfield, MA, and New York City. Before 8 September 2006, please go to: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/FGS2006/petition.html (case sensitive) If you would like to send your own personal letter, send it prior to 8 September 2006 and address it to: Regulations Comments Desk (NPOL) Room 4100, Policy and Planning Staff National Archives and Records Administration 8601 Adelphi Road College Park, MD 20740-6001 Please help spread the word on this important issue by sharing it with others.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4EB.2ACE/1051.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks! I am going to check it out and I will let you know if you were right!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4EB.2ACE/1051.1 Message Board Post: HI! While not in Franklin county, here's my guess what bridge it could be... Route 116 bridge in Chicopee, MA _three span_ bridge (1931) crossing the Connecticut River. Perhaps you could find the circular building and or the skyline and observe from the same viewpoint to prove or disprove...!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Goldman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4EB.2ACE/1051 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on a winfred Goldman who was an artist in Western Massachusetts (Springfield.) He died in 1999 and his wife was Dorothy, also an artist. A friend of mine has purchased of piece of Winfred's art at an auction, and it is rumored the painting hung in the Holyoke library. I am looking to find info on Winfred and find out a little about his work. Also, does anybody recognize the setting of the picture? Is this a local river, maybe Chicopee? Is this the bridge that 116 crosses? Any info would be helpful!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nims, Steel, Steele Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4EB.2ACE/1050 Message Board Post: Hello Nims family researchers! Just thought I'd keep you updated on the latest NIMS NEWS announcements! The Nims Family Association Members newsletter, August 2006 announced the association's events scheduled for the 2006 NIMS FAMILY REUNION September 29 - 30, 2006. The events start on Friday Sept. 29th with social time starting at 5:30pm, complete with a speaker and the movie "Captive" which was filmed in Deerfield. Saturday, Sept. 30th starts at White Church at 9:30, a slide show about the route the captives took after the raid. There will be presentations on Godfrey's grandson, David, along with the progress on the cataloging of the Nims files; there is also a discussion on the Canadian descendants of Abigail Nims. Clothing of the Hudson Bay company will also be worn by two of her descendants. A humorous talk will be given about taverns; walking tours, as well as lunch available for $6.00 at White Church. Having attended several NFA Reunions in the past, it sounds like a lot of preparation has been done so all will have an experience to talk about when they return home! Stories about current descendants should be shared also!! Kudos to the Reunion event planners and to their enthusiastic President! I've provided a link to the complete announcement by the NFA President, just click on the link found on the NIMS Message board, "Links & Announcements" it is the first link found on the popup page. Sue, Descendant of Abigail Nims #1345 b. 11 Mar 1786 d. 16 Mar 1868 m. Levi Steel 27 Feb 1803

Another source for the changes of names of the counties and towns is found at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/genealog/genealog.towns-ma I have found this very helpful. And the Handybook for Genealogists, by Everton Publishers, gives the formation dates for each county, and whether it was original or formed from another county or counties. Thanks for all your hints. They are very helpful. Dorothy in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: <gle1@comcast.net> To: <MAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:11 AM Subject: [MAFRANKL] Masssachusetts Historical Data Publication Availability This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4EB.2ACE/1049.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I received the following reply from the Secretary of State's Office for Massachusetts regarding the "HISTORICAL DATA ON COUNTIES CITIES AND TOWNS OF MASSACHUSETTS" publication. This took a bit of doing. We no longer carry the book as of several years ago; nor, as we discovered, does NEHGS sell the book. However, we found out from NEHGS that PICTON PRESS is their sales outlet. When we called Picton the nice lady verified they list it in their catalogue, researched the price ($9/ea. and prob. shipping as well) and suggested the website: www.pictonpress.com where you may research by title, and a very loud notice that Picton is the outlet for NEHGS publications. Picton phone: 207-596-7766 Hope this helps. Respectfully, CIS I URGE everyone doing genealogy in Massachusetts to have a copy of this priceless resource. Good Luck, Garry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4EB.2ACE/1049.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I received the following reply from the Secretary of State's Office for Massachusetts regarding the "HISTORICAL DATA ON COUNTIES CITIES AND TOWNS OF MASSACHUSETTS" publication. This took a bit of doing. We no longer carry the book as of several years ago; nor, as we discovered, does NEHGS sell the book. However, we found out from NEHGS that PICTON PRESS is their sales outlet. When we called Picton the nice lady verified they list it in their catalogue, researched the price ($9/ea. and prob. shipping as well) and suggested the website: www.pictonpress.com where you may research by title, and a very loud notice that Picton is the outlet for NEHGS publications. Picton phone: 207-596-7766 Hope this helps. Respectfully, CIS I URGE everyone doing genealogy in Massachusetts to have a copy of this priceless resource. Good Luck, Garry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4EB.2ACE/1049.1.1.1 Message Board Post: As a follow up to my initial posting as well as Carole's, I'd like to add the following comments. Carole is correct in using the ACTUAL/ORIGINAL palce name on any genealogical chart where the specific vital event actually occurred. That is the correct way to record the information, EVEN IF the place became known by a different name later on. For instance, if one were born in a part of Deefield that later on became part of Greenfield, the place of birth should be noted as Deerfield. An explanatory note can or should be added to indicate that that area of Deerfield (e.g. the Cheapside section) later became annexed by Greenfield (as happened with the Cheapside section in 1896). It is also true that if one were born in Deerfield prior to Greenfield becoming incorporated as a town in 1753, the palce should be noted as Deerfield if the person was born in the area of Deerfield that later became Greenfield. To be clear, the place name recorded should indicate the ACTUAL place where the vital event occured at he time it occurred, not what it became known as at a later date. I hope this helps to clarify this issue without adding to an already confusing situation. I urge anyone doing Massachusetts genealogy to seek out the Secretary of State's publication having to do with the History of Counties, Cities and Towns of Massachusetts. I do not know the last time it was published. Perhaps it is still available through the Sec of State's office or perhaps it can be obtained through interlibrary loan. It really is a necessity and will provide all the necessary information on this topic. NOTE: Prior to posting this I did an internet search and found this booklet. Here is the citation (Galvin is the current Sec Of State): Historical Data Relating to Counties, Cities and Towns in Massachusetts, 5th Edition. Author: William Francis Galvin Published: 1997. It can be puirchased through Pciton Press for $9.00. It's worth it's weight in gold. http://www.pictonpress.com/store/show/1821 This is the Hist Gen publication.. I have also inquired of the Sec of State's office to see if they stil make it available. Stay tuned.

Seek parentage of Abraham Tenney, born Colrain ca 1800/01; buried Christian Hill, Colrain; m. Betsy Stowe; his death record says son of Abraham & Betsy Tenney, who are not found, and which info we do not have much faith in. Tenneys found in Charlemont and Conway may ultimately connect but do not see it thusfar. Any info or suggestions most welcome