Doug, Do you have any additional information on Alexander W DOUGLASS and Jane MOORE? Their son William Henry DOUGLASS married Isabella LAUGHLIN, daughter of Henry and Margaret LAUGHLIN, 21 November 1799 in Madison County. Henry and Margaret are my 5g grandparents. I have been unable to locate them before their arrival in KENTUCKY. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Sue Sullivan Oklahoma City John TODD (Caleb TODD1) was born 25 MAY 1773 in Easton, Northhampton Co., PENNSYLVANIA, and died 15 APR 1839 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. He married Martha (Patsy) COLLIER 14 OCT 1797 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, daughter of John COLLIER and Mildred CARY. She was born 16 JAN 1782, and died 18 MAY 1846 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. Children of John TODD and Martha (Patsy) COLLIER are: 5 iv. William TODD was born 4 NOV 1802, and died 24 DEC . He married Jane DOUGLASS, daughter of Alexander W DOUGLASS and Jane MOORE.

Sue The question you raise that was precipitated by the TODD/DOUGLASS "connection" cited in the message from Doug is a "golden" opportunity to remind we "seekers" that ALL information acquired from other than "primary" documents/sources should be VERIFIED before we "make it ours". Information gleaned from an old TODD family bible indicates that John & Martha (Patsy) COLLIER TODD did indeed have a son William b. 4 Nov 1802. It also indicated he died 24 Dec 1802. In any case it's highly improbable that he would have been the William TODD that married Jane DOUGLASS in Madison County KY on 12 Jan 1804 (according to Vockery's compilation of Madison County marriages- a "secondary" source is as "error free" as any I've ever seen) when he would have been barely 14 MONTHS old had he lived that long. Doug is to be applauded for his efforts to aid Erma and others researching these lines, but my point is that these "leads" are places to START and not an end product. Even though I don't consider myself "old" (I'm sure that my grandchildren would disagree) and others have been doing this type of research for much longer than my 25-30 years, there are some things that I have learned. The internet is a really great tool to more easily share what we have and it enables us to go places and find things that would take a lot longer and cost a lot more if we filled up the family vehicle with fuel and started a nationwide courthouse, graveyard, library & archive tour to find what we needed. But it has a "downside" as well! In 10 years of internet use I have discovered that "misinformation" has a "half-life" similar to U-235 uranium and it's seemingly as difficult to keep stored and "non-polluting" as that stuff in those deep holes in Nevada. Doug is probably going to think I'm picking on him if I cite the long ago de-bunked Richard (Bland?) Lee of Madison County/Hancock Lee connection as an example but the point is whether it's Doug or Erma or ME or any other secondary source that's providing the info... QUESTION! EXAMINE! VERIFY! I assure you that if I send you any substantial amount of data it's almost certainly not error free and some of it is probably shaped by opinion and assumption and experience. It would certainly merit a critical look before it becomes a "fact". I've stepped too close to the edge and fell off my soapbox.....so just let me say if anyone wants to compare notes on Joel or John TODD and their families I'd be happy to do so. -- Darwin Newton Cambridge KS 67023 [email protected]