This message is being triple posted on the Saline County, Missouri, list, the Madison County, Kentucky, list, and the Garrard County, Kentucky, list. Though the questions deal with Kentucky records, the people lived in Saline Co. I covering my bases in hopes that one of you might be able to help clarify my confusion. Topic 1: 1830 marriage of William Wheeler to Mary Harris Discussion: 1. "Early marriages of Madison County, Kentucky" shows a marriage between a William Wheeler and a Mary Harris (daughter of "John Harris"). "Wheeler Cousins" reports that this was the marriage of William Wheeler, son of Thomas Wheeler and Clary Harris. 2. "History of Saline County" (1881) says that William Wheeler, of Saline County, married "Miss Mary Harris, of Saline County. Questions: Why would William and Mary have gone to Madison County, Kentucky, to get married? Does any one have proof that the marriage listed in Madison County marriage index was indeed the two people who lived in Saline County prior to their marriage and following their marriage, or additional information that might provide some credence to this claim? OR, is the report in "Wheeler cousins" an error or an assumption based on coincidental names? Without additional information, a Saline county marriage would seem to make more sense than a Madison county marriage. Topic 2: Where was Stephen Wheeler born? Discussion: 1. "History of Saline County" reports that Stephen Wheeler was born in _Harrison county_, Kentucky, in 1812. 2. His grave marker says he was born in _May_ 1812. 2. His parents were from _Garrard County_, Kentucky. 3. In _March_ 1812, his father, Thomas Wheeler, purchased stuff at an estate sale in Garrard County. 4. When Thomas died in 1813, his will was probated in Garrard County. Question: Why would Clary Harris have gone to Harrison County to give birth to Stephen? (Harrison county is about 50+ miles to the NE of Garrard county.) Might this be an error "History of Saline County" - either based on a mishearing, a misreading, or a mis-typesetting? Again, does anyone have proof that Stephen was born in Harrison County, Kentucky, or additional information that could help make sense of a Harrison county birth? Without additional information, a Garrard county birth certainly makes more sense. Many thanks, Lesa!

I will work on this from the Saline Co Mo(sacomo) angle . I think Garrard/Madison co Ky is the clue. You are wise to take the1889s histories with a grain of salt. Memories do slip cogs. especially names and dates. I have a Charles Wheeler in the LEE lineage. My bunch the LEEs went back to Berea area of Ky several times causes 'wanted to see family again" "business" settle estates" etc. One Elizabeth died there while visiting, my problem which of the three Elizabeth Mrs. Richard was she, Mother , daughter or Aunt. They drive me bonkers as they each properly used Mrs. Richard and all live at same time just different ages and ages were not indicated. Tombstones same problem Mother- Elizabeth and dates obscured. Bud.

There is definitely a marriage for a William Wheeler to a Mary Harris in Madison Co., KY, bond date, 1 Feb. 1830, Ret. date, 4 Feb. 1830 with bond and consent by John Harris, father of the bride. On another site is given the marriage having occured in Garrard Co., KY. This could be true as sometimes the bond and return are made in one county and the marriage occrs in another. Unless the actual return has the place of marriage, it is uncertain. Most often the marriage takes place where the bride lives. The source given for the Garrard Co. marriage does not give any specifics. William WHEELER2 was born on 20 Jun 1805 in Garrard Co., Ky.. He died on 20 Apr 1883 in Saline County, MO. Parents: Thomas WHEELER and Clary HARRIS. Spouse: Mary HARRIS. William WHEELER and Mary HARRIS were married on 4 Feb 1830 in Garrard Co., Ky.. Spouse: Minerva J. THOMAS. William WHEELER and Minerva J. THOMAS were married on 19 Jan 1836 in Saline County, MO. Sources: http://www.jesshistorical.org/Jessamine%20County%20Kentucky%20Families/b416.htm GEDCOM file submitted by Nancy Perry, Winchester, Kentucky. Created on 19 NOV 2003. Imported on 28 Nov 2003. Mary HARRIS2 was born in Jun 1814 in Garrard Co., Ky. She died on 23 Aug 1830 in Saline County, MO. Spouse: William WHEELER. William WHEELER and Mary HARRIS were married on 4 Feb 1830 in Garrard Co., Ky.. Some of these GEDCOM files are in error. The above one does not give credit for the original source for the marriage being in Garrard Co. and such marriage is not found in published marriages for Garrard Co. Gerald Tudor - Madison Co.

Lesa, I know this is a long shot, but I have a John Harris living in Madison Co. KY during the approximate time your Mary was married. He married Jane Warren there in 1805and began to have children untill about 1822. I can not be sure my list is complete. I DO NOT have a Mary on the list. John Harris is a very common name so there is probably no connection, but I thought I would write just in case. He died in 1848 or 9 (sorry I can't get out of this e-mail to check my records for the exact date). His wife Jane died in 1864. They are both buried in Richmond Cemetery.in Madison Co.KY. Eleanor Homewood ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Lesa" <grebmot@olypen.com> To: "Saline Co. List" <MOSALINE-L@rootsweb.com>; "Garrard Co Kentucky List" <KYGARRAR-L@rootsweb.com>; "Madison Co Kentucky List" <madky-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: [MADKY] Two Wheeler Questions > This message is being triple posted on the Saline County, Missouri, > list, the Madison County, Kentucky, list, and the Garrard County, > Kentucky, list. Though the questions deal with Kentucky records, the > people lived in Saline Co. I covering my bases in hopes that one of you > might be able to help clarify my confusion. > > Topic 1: > 1830 marriage of William Wheeler to Mary Harris > > Discussion: > 1. "Early marriages of Madison County, Kentucky" shows a marriage > between a William Wheeler and a Mary Harris (daughter of "John Harris"). > "Wheeler Cousins" reports that this was the marriage of William Wheeler, > son of Thomas Wheeler and Clary Harris. > 2. "History of Saline County" (1881) says that William Wheeler, of > Saline County, married "Miss Mary Harris, of Saline County. > > Questions: > Why would William and Mary have gone to Madison County, Kentucky, to get > married? Does any one have proof that the marriage listed in Madison > County marriage index was indeed the two people who lived in Saline > County prior to their marriage and following their marriage, or > additional information that might provide some credence to this claim? > OR, is the report in "Wheeler cousins" an error or an assumption based > on coincidental names? Without additional information, a Saline county > marriage would seem to make more sense than a Madison county marriage. > > Topic 2: > Where was Stephen Wheeler born? > > Discussion: > 1. "History of Saline County" reports that Stephen Wheeler was born in > _Harrison county_, Kentucky, in 1812. > 2. His grave marker says he was born in _May_ 1812. > 2. His parents were from _Garrard County_, Kentucky. > 3. In _March_ 1812, his father, Thomas Wheeler, purchased stuff at an > estate sale in Garrard County. > 4. When Thomas died in 1813, his will was probated in Garrard County. > > Question: > Why would Clary Harris have gone to Harrison County to give birth to > Stephen? (Harrison county is about 50+ miles to the NE of Garrard > county.) Might this be an error "History of Saline County" - either > based on a mishearing, a misreading, or a mis-typesetting? Again, does > anyone have proof that Stephen was born in Harrison County, Kentucky, or > additional information that could help make sense of a Harrison county > birth? Without additional information, a Garrard county birth certainly > makes more sense. > > Many thanks, > Lesa! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 > 10:55 PM > >

A Question to mull over; just a suspicion they married in the home state because family was there and recorded in saline Co. Mo because that is were they lived. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elenor Homewood Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:10 AM