Gay and Bud Is there any mention of John Cloyd who was first married to BOATMAN, KERCHIN and than a BOATMAN sister from Jassmine Co KY into Champaign Co IL into Parke Co IN.? All I know is that John would had been born around 1800 as he was listed as 50 yrs in the 1850 census. Charlene Spaulding Nebraska -----Original Message----- From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: dwsbgs@centurytel.net; madky@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 6:02 pm Subject: Re: [MADKY] Cloyd Bud, It came from the book Early Adventures on the Western Waters Vol 11 by Mary Kegley The other was from Springfield Saga The Thompsons Of Fort Thompson on New River Pulaski County, Va by Patricia Givens Johnson. There is other data on Ninian Cloyd in the book by Kegley. Gay Nix samuels <dwsbgs@centurytel.net> wrote: Tell us more about CLOYD'S Mountain or cite the book/s from which we can read. Ninian Cloyd( the elder) seem to be the ancestor we seek. I don't recall it being in Summer's annuals of West Virginia. Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LYNDON NIX Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:50 AM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: [MADKY] Cloyd In Southwest Virginia the battle of Cloyd's Mountain is famed in the annals of the civil war. For two hundred years the mountain and estate has borne the Cloyd name. The fact that it was once known as Springfield, home of the William Thompson family and the sight of Fort Thompson. (William Thompson is my direct line). The Thompson plantation on New River is found now in Pulaski County. Montgomery Co, Va County Entries: Ninian Cloyd assignee of Joseph Cloyd, assignee of William Munsey, commissioner's certificate, 400 acres on Back Creek, on south side of William Thompson's patent line. William Thompson and his wife Mary Patton had a son Henry Thompson who married Elizabeth Cloyd, this family migrated to Nashville, Tenn and later moved to Wilson Co, Tenn. How is Gordon Cloyd related to you? Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Tell us more about CLOYD'S Mountain or cite the book/s from which we can read. Ninian Cloyd( the elder) seem to be the ancestor we seek. I don't recall it being in Summer's annuals of West Virginia. Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LYNDON NIX Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:50 AM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: [MADKY] Cloyd In Southwest Virginia the battle of Cloyd's Mountain is famed in the annals of the civil war. For two hundred years the mountain and estate has borne the Cloyd name. The fact that it was once known as Springfield, home of the William Thompson family and the sight of Fort Thompson. (William Thompson is my direct line). The Thompson plantation on New River is found now in Pulaski County. Montgomery Co, Va County Entries: Ninian Cloyd assignee of Joseph Cloyd, assignee of William Munsey, commissioner's certificate, 400 acres on Back Creek, on south side of William Thompson's patent line. William Thompson and his wife Mary Patton had a son Henry Thompson who married Elizabeth Cloyd, this family migrated to Nashville, Tenn and later moved to Wilson Co, Tenn. How is Gordon Cloyd related to you? Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Someone asked, probably in passing, Where did they live [in Madison Co.]? Kentucky tax lists and deeds (at least on film) specify the watercourse on which most of the tracts of land were located. The Family History Library, as well as I am sure the Kentucky State Archives, and probably University libraries in Kentucky must have some of these films. (I use the FHL films because I do not live in Kentucky.) When trying to track persons who may have been neighbors (and who sooner or later may be relatives), I like to collect persons who lived along the same watercourse. This has helped me, at least in a colonial North Carolina county, differentiate two clusters of families with the same surnames. One was my direct line (my Dad's paternal lineage) and the other married into another family which was my Dad's grandmother's line, and hence his line. If you have not dipped into the filmed tax records of Kentucky, you may be missing some valuable information about your families I found in some of the later ones, tax lists, that is, at least for a Jackson Purchase county, that the taxpayer was asked how many children (I seem to remember school age children) he had. This probably helped the county and the State determine how much financial help the county was going to need. And this info helps us visualize the make-up of the family. The filmed deed indexes for Madison Co. have in the last column of the index, in many cases, the watercourse on which the land was located--unless the land was a city lot. So much to learn and so little time to read microfilm--because of pressing duties elsewhere! E.W.Wallace ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Bud, It came from the book Early Adventures on the Western Waters Vol 11 by Mary Kegley The other was from Springfield Saga The Thompsons Of Fort Thompson on New River Pulaski County, Va by Patricia Givens Johnson. There is other data on Ninian Cloyd in the book by Kegley. Gay Nix samuels <dwsbgs@centurytel.net> wrote: Tell us more about CLOYD'S Mountain or cite the book/s from which we can read. Ninian Cloyd( the elder) seem to be the ancestor we seek. I don't recall it being in Summer's annuals of West Virginia. Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LYNDON NIX Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:50 AM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: [MADKY] Cloyd In Southwest Virginia the battle of Cloyd's Mountain is famed in the annals of the civil war. For two hundred years the mountain and estate has borne the Cloyd name. The fact that it was once known as Springfield, home of the William Thompson family and the sight of Fort Thompson. (William Thompson is my direct line). The Thompson plantation on New River is found now in Pulaski County. Montgomery Co, Va County Entries: Ninian Cloyd assignee of Joseph Cloyd, assignee of William Munsey, commissioner's certificate, 400 acres on Back Creek, on south side of William Thompson's patent line. William Thompson and his wife Mary Patton had a son Henry Thompson who married Elizabeth Cloyd, this family migrated to Nashville, Tenn and later moved to Wilson Co, Tenn. How is Gordon Cloyd related to you? Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

In Southwest Virginia the battle of Cloyd's Mountain is famed in the annals of the civil war. For two hundred years the mountain and estate has borne the Cloyd name. The fact that it was once known as Springfield, home of the William Thompson family and the sight of Fort Thompson. (William Thompson is my direct line). The Thompson plantation on New River is found now in Pulaski County. Montgomery Co, Va County Entries: Ninian Cloyd assignee of Joseph Cloyd, assignee of William Munsey, commissioner's certificate, 400 acres on Back Creek, on south side of William Thompson's patent line. William Thompson and his wife Mary Patton had a son Henry Thompson who married Elizabeth Cloyd, this family migrated to Nashville, Tenn and later moved to Wilson Co, Tenn. How is Gordon Cloyd related to you? Gay Nix Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

Hit the wrong key. We seem to have the same source. You do know Nadonia and Hugh are siblings/ . I am also wanting to put the next generation down for Hugh and Margaret. If you have, can you tell me where Margaret is buried, and full death dates. Cousins who searched years ago(1940's) claim She and husband DAVID DALTON came to Missouri. Her name change is proved in the estate settlement papers after Elizabeth LEE Died(1836) here in Mo. but the Commissioners Deed is 1845 still listing her, Margaret, but none of these list the descendent heirs of living heirs. Nadonia married James LEE , Margaret's brother, and they came to Mo. about 1830 and got land in what became Henry County, Mo. Nadonia, also called Naomi had eight children and I have data on most of them for the next two descending generations if you are interested. Where do you stop in tracking Ninian Clody1734-1834? I am assuming you have all the data from the cited book. Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norene Allen Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:35 PM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: [MADKY] Haley's and Riddle's I come from Nancy Ann Haley (1850-1909) who married John Cloyd Watson. Nancy Ann Haley's parents were: William R Haley (1810-1904) KY m Nancy Riddle (1851-1903) Coleman Haley (1785-1844) VA married to Ellender/Eleanor Renfro (1787-1859) Barnabus Haley (1755-1851) VA m Rhoda Northcutt (1761-1854) John Haley (1730-1800) VA m Martha Wells (ca 1730-ca 1760) James Haley (1700-1760) VA m Susanna Brockman (1711-1750) Edward Haley (1675-1752) VA m Catherine Perrin (1680-aft 1765) John Haley (ca 1650-1701) England(?) William Haley (1620-bef 1675) John Haley (1590-1644) m Joan Speed (1580-1644) The last three are still under speculation. Nancy Riddle's parents: James Riddle (ca 1773-1839) either VA or KY m Dicey Abney (1789-aft 1816) John Reddell (ca 1730-1805) MD (?) m Ellenor Daugherty (1760 - ) Thanks for any corrections or help provided. Norene ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How interesting. John Clody Watson . I wonder where they lived in Madison County KY. ? My CLOYD would have been in the Berea area and to the west.Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norene Allen Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:35 PM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: [MADKY] Haley's and Riddle's I come from Nancy Ann Haley (1850-1909) who married John Cloyd Watson. Nancy Ann Haley's parents were: William R Haley (1810-1904) KY m Nancy Riddle (1851-1903) Coleman Haley (1785-1844) VA married to Ellender/Eleanor Renfro (1787-1859) Barnabus Haley (1755-1851) VA m Rhoda Northcutt (1761-1854) John Haley (1730-1800) VA m Martha Wells (ca 1730-ca 1760) James Haley (1700-1760) VA m Susanna Brockman (1711-1750) Edward Haley (1675-1752) VA m Catherine Perrin (1680-aft 1765) John Haley (ca 1650-1701) England(?) William Haley (1620-bef 1675) John Haley (1590-1644) m Joan Speed (1580-1644) The last three are still under speculation. Nancy Riddle's parents: James Riddle (ca 1773-1839) either VA or KY m Dicey Abney (1789-aft 1816) John Reddell (ca 1730-1805) MD (?) m Ellenor Daugherty (1760 - ) Thanks for any corrections or help provided. Norene ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK. I also come from Coleman and Ellender Renfro through Turpin and Fanny Houk Haley. Their daughter, Serena Haley married J J Parsons and they had a daughter, Fanny who married John A Sigmon. Their daughter, Mahalia Jane Sigmon married Virgil Hunt. One of their sons was William Edward Hunt and he is my father. Now, John A Sigmon was the son of Barnett and Elizabeth Berry Sigmon. Barnett was the son of William and Mary Polly Sigmon Sigmon and Barnett had a sister, Manerva who married Robert Riddle. Looks as if you and I are cousins along the way! I am trying to find valid proof that Coleman Haley and Barnabas Haley are indeed father and son and have yet to find anything DAR will accept. Do you have any proof of what we know? KY Mary Alice ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I come from Nancy Ann Haley (1850-1909) who married John Cloyd Watson. Nancy Ann Haley's parents were: William R Haley (1810-1904) KY m Nancy Riddle (1851-1903) Coleman Haley (1785-1844) VA married to Ellender/Eleanor Renfro (1787-1859) Barnabus Haley (1755-1851) VA m Rhoda Northcutt (1761-1854) John Haley (1730-1800) VA m Martha Wells (ca 1730-ca 1760) James Haley (1700-1760) VA m Susanna Brockman (1711-1750) Edward Haley (1675-1752) VA m Catherine Perrin (1680-aft 1765) John Haley (ca 1650-1701) England(?) William Haley (1620-bef 1675) John Haley (1590-1644) m Joan Speed (1580-1644) The last three are still under speculation. Nancy Riddle's parents: James Riddle (ca 1773-1839) either VA or KY m Dicey Abney (1789-aft 1816) John Reddell (ca 1730-1805) MD (?) m Ellenor Daugherty (1760 - ) Thanks for any corrections or help provided. Norene

Resending, mis-entered Bud's email address. _____ From: Norene Allen [mailto:nallen630@kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:27 PM To: 'dwsbgs@centurytel.ne'; 'madky@rootsweb.com' Subject: Cloyd's Hello Bud and Joe, In my database I show Hugh Cloyd married to Margaret Lee. For Hugh born ca 1802 in Madison Co, KY; died ca 1834 in Madison Co, KY. He married Margaret 19 Sept 1822 also in Madison Co, KY. For Margaret I have born ca 1802 in Paint Lick, Madison Co, KY and died 1840 in Madison Co, KY. Hugh is the son of my ancestors John Cloyd (1771-1833) and Margaret Reid (1771-1849). I have a few more lines back from there. My ancestor for John and Margaret (a sibling of Hugh's) is Mary Polly Cloyd ( 1810-1874). John Cloyd's father I have as Ninian Cloyd (1734-1834) married to Mary Kinkaid (1740-1811) John Cloyd (1713- 1759) married to Mary (I have no last name) (1715 no death dates) I have both of these two born in Ireland James Cloyd (1680-ca 1669) married to Margaret Wilson (1684-?) born in Ireland James Cloyd ( ca 1653-?) Happy to have corrections or to share what I have. Especially looking to those lines beyond Ninian. Most of my info came from "Genealogy of the Cloyd, Basye and Tapp Families in America" by A. D. Cloyd, M.D., Omaha, Nebraska, 1912) Norene

Hello Bud and Joe, In my database I show Hugh Cloyd married to Margaret Lee. For Hugh born ca 1802 in Madison Co, KY; died ca 1834 in Madison Co, KY. He married Margaret 19 Sept 1822 also in Madison Co, KY. For Margaret I have born ca 1802 in Paint Lick, Madison Co, KY and died 1840 in Madison Co, KY. Hugh is the son of my ancestors John Cloyd (1771-1833) and Margaret Reid (1771-1849). I have a few more lines back from there. My ancestor for John and Margaret (a sibling of Hugh's) is Mary Polly Cloyd ( 1810-1874). John Cloyd's father I have as Ninian Cloyd (1734-1834) married to Mary Kinkaid (1740-1811) John Cloyd (1713- 1759) married to Mary (I have no last name) (1715 no death dates) I have both of these two born in Ireland James Cloyd (1680-ca 1669) married to Margaret Wilson (1684-?) born in Ireland James Cloyd ( ca 1653-?) Happy to have corrections or to share what I have. Especially looking to those lines beyond Ninian. Most of my info came from "Genealogy of the Cloyd, Basye and Tapp Families in America" by A. D. Cloyd, M.D., Omaha, Nebraska, 1912) Norene

Norene Allen & Joe McElroy; Your CLODY search interest me. I have in the LEE line two CLODY. Nadonia married to James LEE, on this a good deal of data, and Hugh CLODY married to Margaret "Peggy" LEE, he said to have died circa 1839, she remarried to DALTON. Found Grave site for son John in a listing, so not certain and that Cem. Maybe in Garrad Co. Let us chat off list until we are certain? dwsbgs@centurytel.net Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joe McElroy Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:42 AM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MADKY] Watson's, Haley's, Cloyd's and Riddle's I have some Madiosn County Books if I can help let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norene Allen" <nallen630@kc.rr.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:33 AM Subject: [MADKY] Watson's, Haley's, Cloyd's and Riddle's > Hello, > > > > I am new to the Madison County KY list, although not to genealogy in > general. My lines in this area include Watson's, Cloyd's, Haley's and > Riddles. I am interested in communicating with others you might have had > these lines in Madison County and Richmond areas. > > > > Norene > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chat off list, This is Joe McElroy, I may I help you? ----- Original Message ----- From: "samuels" <dwsbgs@centurytel.net> To: <madky@rootsweb.com>; <nallen630@kc.rr.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [MADKY] Watson's, Haley's, Cloyd's and Riddle's > Norene Allen & Joe McElroy; Your CLODY search interest me. I have in the > LEE line two CLODY. Nadonia married to James LEE, on this a good deal of > data, and Hugh CLODY married to Margaret "Peggy" LEE, he said to have died > circa 1839, she remarried to DALTON. Found Grave site for son John in a > listing, so not certain and that Cem. Maybe in Garrad Co. Let us chat off > list until we are certain? dwsbgs@centurytel.net Bud. > > -----Original Message----- > From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Joe McElroy > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:42 AM > To: madky@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MADKY] Watson's, Haley's, Cloyd's and Riddle's > > > I have some Madiosn County Books if I can help let me know. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norene Allen" <nallen630@kc.rr.com> > To: <madky@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:33 AM > Subject: [MADKY] Watson's, Haley's, Cloyd's and Riddle's > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am new to the Madison County KY list, although not to genealogy in > > general. My lines in this area include Watson's, Cloyd's, Haley's and > > Riddles. I am interested in communicating with others you might have had > > these lines in Madison County and Richmond areas. > > > > > > > > Norene > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is your Haley and Riddle connection? KY Mary Alice ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hello, I am new to the Madison County KY list, although not to genealogy in general. My lines in this area include Watson's, Cloyd's, Haley's and Riddles. I am interested in communicating with others you might have had these lines in Madison County and Richmond areas. Norene

I have some Madiosn County Books if I can help let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norene Allen" <nallen630@kc.rr.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:33 AM Subject: [MADKY] Watson's, Haley's, Cloyd's and Riddle's > Hello, > > > > I am new to the Madison County KY list, although not to genealogy in > general. My lines in this area include Watson's, Cloyd's, Haley's and > Riddles. I am interested in communicating with others you might have had > these lines in Madison County and Richmond areas. > > > > Norene > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I have some Madison County ,Ky. cemetery books,marriage books and a few other's if I can help let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LYNDON NIX" <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [MADKY] Watson's, Haley's, Cloyd's and Riddle's > What do you know about your Cloyd's? > Gay Nix > > Norene Allen <nallen630@kc.rr.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am new to the Madison County KY list, although not to genealogy in > general. My lines in this area include Watson's, Cloyd's, Haley's and > Riddles. I am interested in communicating with others you might have had > these lines in Madison County and Richmond areas. > > > > Norene > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Gay Nix > warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What do you know about your Cloyd's? Gay Nix Norene Allen <nallen630@kc.rr.com> wrote: Hello, I am new to the Madison County KY list, although not to genealogy in general. My lines in this area include Watson's, Cloyd's, Haley's and Riddles. I am interested in communicating with others you might have had these lines in Madison County and Richmond areas. Norene ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net

M.A. If you would reserach though the film and see if you find data on Thomas LANHAM VS C. Clay over land near Boonesbough Cliff LAnham On Sat Jul 28 20:39 , 'M. A. Farrell' <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> sent: >I have two microfilm reels of District Court land trials, which covers several counties - Fayette, Madison, etc., concerning trials starting about 1790 thru 1810. This is referred to as "The Complete Record Book", but is not "complete" for the whole state. I purchased these reels of film from the KY Library Archives in Frankfort. > >A couple of years ago, I ordered a LDS microfilm, "Depositions in Land Trials of Garrard Co", and if you check the catalog, perhaps there are films specifically for Madison trials. > >In the very early years, the entire Bluegrass area was "lumped" together when people made their land entries before the Land Commissioners, so when surveyed were divided generally only into the three original counties - Lincoln, Jefferson, Fayette.. Mary Alice > >________________________________________ >PeoplePC Online >A better way to Internet >http://www.peoplepc.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have two microfilm reels of District Court land trials, which covers several counties - Fayette, Madison, etc., concerning trials starting about 1790 thru 1810. This is referred to as "The Complete Record Book", but is not "complete" for the whole state. I purchased these reels of film from the KY Library Archives in Frankfort. A couple of years ago, I ordered a LDS microfilm, "Depositions in Land Trials of Garrard Co", and if you check the catalog, perhaps there are films specifically for Madison trials. In the very early years, the entire Bluegrass area was "lumped" together when people made their land entries before the Land Commissioners, so when surveyed were divided generally only into the three original counties - Lincoln, Jefferson, Fayette.. Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com