If the deed says Madison Co., that is where the land was in 1835. All of Red Lick Creek and its branches are a part of the Station Camp Creek. Red Lick Creek runs from Madison Co. into Estill Co., so any of it's branches are considered a part of Station Camp Creek as Station Camp Creek is part of the Kentucky River. GRT ----- Original Message ----- From: <PlowmanKy@aol.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MADKY] Station Camp Creek > Try Estill County > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

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Your atatement did say "A branch of Station Camp Creek" Red Lick Creek and its branches of Madison Co. & Estill Co.empty into Station Camp Creek of Estill Co. Note: There was also Staion Camp Creek in Jackson Co. which was established abt. 1858. Gerald Tudor ----- Original Message ----- From: <LambJGLamb@aol.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: [MADKY] Station Camp Creek >I have an 1835 Madison Co. deed in which James Ellison purchased 1150 acres > on a branch of Station Camp Creek in Madison Co. Where within the county > is/was that creek? I don't find it on a listing of waterways in the > county. > > Thanks for any input, > Jay G. Lamb > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have an 1835 Madison Co. deed in which James Ellison purchased 1150 acres on a branch of Station Camp Creek in Madison Co. Where within the county is/was that creek? I don't find it on a listing of waterways in the county. Thanks for any input, Jay G. Lamb ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi, Looking for a obituary or death date for Eldridge Dailey. He was born in 1927 in either Madison or Fayette KY. He died in 1927 or 1928 in either Madison or Fayette KY. His parents were Eldridge Dailey and Flossie Best. thanks for any info. Sue Sue --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

Uriah Davis was born in Maryland and married in Madison CO Ky to Elizabeth Harris. In 1818 he is listed in Saline County history as living in the settlement of Edmondson's Bottom. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mosaline/history.htm One know son of Uriah and Elizabeth is Tyree Davis. He was born 17 Sept 1815 in KY. Aside from information on Harris' trying to help Tyree's children retain their inheritances from the second wife, I know nothing else about Uriah Davis, Elizabeth Harris Davis or John Harris. On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 12:57 -0400, Hdanw@aol.com wrote: > You asked about an Elizabeth Harris who married a Uriah Davis, Madison > Co., KY. > > I cannot presently answer your question. > > Share with us what you know about Uriah Davis. With his somewhat > uncommon first name, we may be able to better get a bead on him and > his parents/children. > > In order to eliminate some steps in your research, I am sharing the > following: > > It seems that you can eliminate this particular Elizabeth Harris, > daughter of Overton Harris of Madison Co., KY, who died testate ca > 1827. This Elizabeth Harris later Tevis was a sister to my ancestress > Carlisle Harris, who married Michael Lowery Stoner. Carlisle died in > Texas ca 1859 soon after the family's migration there. > > I am sharing with others, in the hope that some of this Elizabeth > Harris's descendants will enlighten me about the Tevis family. > > ELIZABETH HARRIS, DAUGHTER OF OVERTON HARRIS. > > We know little of Elizabeth Harris II, other than the identity of > her parents and her husband, Joseph H. Tevis. A cemetery record gives > this information: > > Harris - Daughter - Dau of Overton & Nancy - 21 Oct 1811 - 23 Jun > 1842 > > (Kathy & Bill Vockery, MADISON COUNTY [KY] CEMETERY RECORDS [Richmond, > KY: 1999], p. 52) > > Presumably, this is Elizabeth Harris Tevis. However, the 1850 > census for Madison Co., KY lists on page 302 an Elizabeth Tevis, age > 40. Is this the former Elizabeth Harris? If the cemetery inscription > is correct, then she is a different Elizabeth Harris. > > Because we know the marriage date of Elizabeth Harris, we deduce > the cemetery record refers to her. We know Elizabeth had at least one > child who reached adulthood--Nancy Tevis, who married William > Wilkerson 23 Dec 1845. Christopher C. Harris was the guardian of the > bride as well as the bondsman. Joseph Tevis, father of the bride, was > deceased. > > Possibly another child was James Tevis, whose name appears with > his probable maternal aunts and uncles in a Madison Co. deed ca. 1866. > The name of Nancy Tevis appears in the deed, indicating that the > mother is probably deceased. > > (A previous Tevis-Harris marriage in Madison Co., KY: Tevis, > Nathaniel & Nancy Harris (Burgin scratched out); 15 Aug 1797; Thomas > Burgin, bondsman; Dennis Burgin, father of bride. This is a confusing > entry in Vockery's transcription of Madison Co. Marriages.) > > We do not know how Elizabeth's husband may have been related to > Napoleon G. Tevis, who got married earlier that year--1829--to Rachel > Jane Miller. Dudley Tribble (qv) was bondsman; Polly Tevis, mother of > groom, gave consent, and father of bride, Robert Miller also gave > consent. (Vockery and Vockery, MARRIAGE RECORDS OF MADISON CO., KY, V > 1, p. 73) > > Wishing you luck with your Davis-Harris search, > > E.W.Wallace > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

Hi, Looking for a obituary or death date for Eldridge Dailey. He was born in 1927 in either Madison or Fayette KY. He died in 1927 or 1928 in either Madison or Fayette KY. His parents were Eldridge Dailey and Flossie Best. thanks for any info. Sue Sue --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Sandy, tell me about your Campbells. I know the family of Samuel Campbell/Mary Anderson Kennedy in 1780's, 1790s, 1800, Madison Co - do you have a name in Tenn later? Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

You asked about an Elizabeth Harris who married a Uriah Davis, Madison Co., KY. I cannot presently answer your question. Share with us what you know about Uriah Davis. With his somewhat uncommon first name, we may be able to better get a bead on him and his parents/children. In order to eliminate some steps in your research, I am sharing the following: It seems that you can eliminate this particular Elizabeth Harris, daughter of Overton Harris of Madison Co., KY, who died testate ca 1827. This Elizabeth Harris later Tevis was a sister to my ancestress Carlisle Harris, who married Michael Lowery Stoner. Carlisle died in Texas ca 1859 soon after the family's migration there. I am sharing with others, in the hope that some of this Elizabeth Harris's descendants will enlighten me about the Tevis family. ELIZABETH HARRIS, DAUGHTER OF OVERTON HARRIS. We know little of Elizabeth Harris II, other than the identity of her parents and her husband, Joseph H. Tevis. A cemetery record gives this information: Harris - Daughter - Dau of Overton & Nancy - 21 Oct 1811 - 23 Jun 1842 (Kathy & Bill Vockery, MADISON COUNTY [KY] CEMETERY RECORDS [Richmond, KY: 1999], p. 52) Presumably, this is Elizabeth Harris Tevis. However, the 1850 census for Madison Co., KY lists on page 302 an Elizabeth Tevis, age 40. Is this the former Elizabeth Harris? If the cemetery inscription is correct, then she is a different Elizabeth Harris. Because we know the marriage date of Elizabeth Harris, we deduce the cemetery record refers to her. We know Elizabeth had at least one child who reached adulthood--Nancy Tevis, who married William Wilkerson 23 Dec 1845. Christopher C. Harris was the guardian of the bride as well as the bondsman. Joseph Tevis, father of the bride, was deceased. Possibly another child was James Tevis, whose name appears with his probable maternal aunts and uncles in a Madison Co. deed ca. 1866. The name of Nancy Tevis appears in the deed, indicating that the mother is probably deceased. (A previous Tevis-Harris marriage in Madison Co., KY: Tevis, Nathaniel & Nancy Harris (Burgin scratched out); 15 Aug 1797; Thomas Burgin, bondsman; Dennis Burgin, father of bride. This is a confusing entry in Vockery's transcription of Madison Co. Marriages.) We do not know how Elizabeth's husband may have been related to Napoleon G. Tevis, who got married earlier that year--1829--to Rachel Jane Miller. Dudley Tribble (qv) was bondsman; Polly Tevis, mother of groom, gave consent, and father of bride, Robert Miller also gave consent. (Vockery and Vockery, MARRIAGE RECORDS OF MADISON CO., KY, V 1, p. 73) Wishing you luck with your Davis-Harris search, E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Looking for info on CAMPBELL and McCOY families in Madison Cty area ca 1790s. Some of these families migrated to TN by 1804. Thank you Sandy Campbell sjcamp@swbell.net

With all the Harris information does any one have anything on the below? Uriah Davis Married Elizabeth Harris November 29, 1812/3 in Madison County, Kentucky Bond By : John Harris - November 27, 1812/3 Oath of age for Bride By : John Harris Thank you

With all the Harris information does any one have anything on the below? Uriah Davis Married Elizabeth Harris November 29, 1812/3 in Madison County, Kentucky Bond By : John Harris - November 27, 1812/3 Oath of age for Bride By : John Harris Thank you

Len Henley Bullock of Granville Co., NC is fairly well documented in colonial records of Granville Co., NC. Sherwood Harris, apparently one of several of that name, also appears in a good many records of that North Carolina county. Some men and their families of North Carolina migrated to Madison Co., KY, probably as a result of the activities of Col. Richard Henderson and his Transylvania colony, founders of Boonesborough. Henderson was of Granville Co. and had hoped to establish another colony in Kentucky but was stopped in his activities by the outbreak of the American Revolution and other political events. While reading film of some of the deeds of Madison Co., KY in order to trace some of my families, formerly of Albemarle Co., VA and of Caswell Co., NC, I encountered this power of attorney. The film is FHL 183,283. I have had a recent inquiry about the activities of Sherwood Harris, of whom I know little. He reportedly is linked to Reuben Searcy, also of Granville Co., NC. There are deeds of these two men indexed in the grantee indexes of Madison Co., KY, which are on film at the Family History Library. I do not know the content of those deeds. There was much land speculation by North Carolinians, particularly involving and around Boonesborough. If you are missing some North Carolina ancestors, they may have gone to Kentucky, and later to Missouri and other states. (Some of the other Harrises of early Madison Co. were originally of Albemarle Co., VA. Whether Sherwood is linked to that family has not been determined by me. So far, I have not detected his name in Albemarle Co. nor in early Louisa Co., VA records.) Madison Co. KY DB A-8 25 Aug 1787 Len Henley Bullock of Granville Co. in State of North Carolina for divers good causes and consideration... me hereunto moving have ordained constituted and appointed by these presents... appointed ... my trust and well beloved friend Sherwood Harris who is about to remove himself and family to Kentucky settlements my true & lawful attorney for me in my name & to my use to ask for sue demand recover and receive from William Baley Smith all such sum or sums of money [which is due?] from him for me for cattel by him to me & sold on the western side of the appalation mountains and also from any other person owing money to the said Smith. Saml Searcy Charles Searcy Joseph Moore /s/ Len Henley Bullock (Comment: I cannot recall exactly, but I believe Samuel Searcy and Charles Searcy were the sons of Bartlett Searcy and his wife Lucy. Lucy was widowed early and the deed books of Madison Co. reflect several deeds in which she conveyed property to her sons, in particular, as they became of age. Several of her children married in Madison Co., KY. Bartlett Searcy, her deceased husband, was also of Granville Co., NC. Whether he is Reuben's brother, I cannot say. Kentucky records indicate there was another man named Bartlett Searcy in another KY county. He continued to produce documents some years after Bartlett Searcy of Madison Co. was deceased. Why we have to be detectives in this hobby--or sickness?) Submitted by E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

9-24-2007: From Richmond, Indiana "Pal-Item" Frank H. Coyle, 76, of Richmond, went to be with his Lord Monday, Sept. 24, 2007, at Reid Hospital after a long illness. He was born March 20, 1931, in Berea, Ky., to John B. and Martha Carpenter Coyle Sr. and lived here most of his life. Frank retired from Dana Corp. after working 30½ years as a die and lathe operator. He was a member of the Eaton Pike Pentecostal Tabernacle and attended King's Highway Holiness Church. Survivors include his wife of 56 years, Mary Sue Greene Coyle; two sons, Ron and wife Susan Coyle of Mansfield, Ohio, and Steve and wife Becky Coyle of Centerville; one daughter, Darlene and husband Mark Robbins of Richmond; six grandchildren, Jeromy Robbins of Fishers, Shannon Robbins of Richmond, Chad Holbrook of Granger, Jennifer Coyle of Lexington, Ky., Jenny Moorefield of Greens Fork and Amy Jo Coyle of Centerville; two great-grandchildren, Madison Holbrook and Megan Robbins. Also surviving are three sisters, Eileen Scott, Anna Greene and Nancy and husband Charlie Parker of Richmond; two sisters-in-law, Edith Miller of Fountain City and Lynn Beaver of Middletown, Ohio; nieces and nephews and cousins. His parents; three sisters, Margaret Lamb, Della Hooker and Carol Fannin; and three brothers, McKinley Coyle, John B. "Shorty" Coyle Jr. and Leslie Coyle, are deceased. Funeral services will be 11 a.m. Thursday, Sept. 27, 2007, at Stegall-Berheide-Orr Funeral Home with Rev. W. H. Wyatt officiating. Burial will be at Willow Grove Cemetery in Fountain City. Friends may call 4-7 p.m. Wednesday at the funeral home.

My progress....I haven't reported any because so far I'm not finding what I'm seeking: the father of my Anderson Crews. I'm on the last batch of original records: court documents, and as Mary Alice says, there are a bunch - about 9 alone for Anderson and and additional 3 for Thomas, whom we're fairly convinced, because of tax record information, is Anderson's father (I'm just unable to prove it thus far.). I'm still waiting for more microfilms to arrive from Salt Lake; if I still find no relationships mentioned, I have only 4 more films left to read and then I'm done with court docs. I've read all the land and tax records with no definitive relationship established. When I'm done with the court records, I believe we will have searched all available records at this time. I've even read the newspaper of the time. I'd sure welcome any ideas/suggestions anyone out there might have. Perhaps another descendant will come foward in the future with some valuable information....I'll keep you all posted via this list with the outcome of my search.... Rita M. A. Farrell" <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> wrote: We had knowledge of this list and these Crews men; of course this Rodes list was only one of maybe 3-4 which don't survive. The Crews family researcher has since read many films of original records, and determined the line of Thomas Crews is probably the line she seeks. She is pursuing the Madison Co Court records which have about 7 early cases involving Thomas; perhaps she will let us know her progress.... Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Mary Alice; a reminder of a mistaken attachment I made that is still floating around out there; Benjamin Crews and wife Zarilda are not among the Irvine Lee 1803-1875 line of children. The Crews data as given is okay but not attached to the LEE family.Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. A. Farrell Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:26 PM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MADKY] Crews on 1788 Tax List for Madison Co. KY We had knowledge of this list and these Crews men; of course this Rodes list was only one of maybe 3-4 which don't survive. The Crews family researcher has since read many films of original records, and determined the line of Thomas Crews is probably the line she seeks. She is pursuing the Madison Co Court records which have about 7 early cases involving Thomas; perhaps she will let us know her progress.... Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where did you find a Madison County Ky. Newsletter? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <EllieSS@aol.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: [MADKY] Newsletter online > > In a message dated 9/19/2007 1:01:33 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > madky-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > I admit I have missed > some wonderful articles. I nearly always learn something new, even when > the > particular case history does not seem to apply to my ancestry. > > > > They have the archives for those who missed copies.. > > Cheers, > Ellie > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is a draft of a biography of William Harris (wife Temperance Overton). It may be too long for a rootsweb post. If so, let me know. I will welcome any corrections, additions, comments. This draft was done long ago. E.W.Wallace CAPT. WILLIAM HARRIS OF HANOVER CO. There is much difficulty in sorting out the various Harrises of early Virginia. One of the best explanations seen to date, 1997, is that of Malcolm Hart Harris, M.D. Dr. Harris, in "Three William Harrises in Hanover County," in VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, V. 22, has done a thorough examination of land patents and locations of land described in these patents. Harris's conclusion is that Capt. William Harris of Hanover Co., VA was the son of Robert Harris (called in this account, Robert Harris the immigrant). He also was the father of William Harris, Jr. and that they were of Cedar Hill. Other genealogists disagree with this conclusion of the father-son relationship. Refer to the processioners' reports of 1715-1716, as defined in biography of Robert Harris I. These reports indicate that both Robert Harris, probably a younger man of that name, however, and a William Harris owned land in Hanover Co. The name of Widd. Bradley appears in conjunction with both reports, but this does not prove a relationship of the two men--only that the two Harrises were contemporaries and lived in the same county--Hanover ca 1715-1716. Indeed, as put forth by Dr. Harris, the two Harrises--Robert and William--may well have been brothers. The land of the third William Harris, the subject of this biography, lay on Cub Creek, "which lies wholly within the county of Louisa and is about six miles from the nearest tract on upper Little River." Louisa Co. was formed 1742 from Hanover which in turn was formed 1721 from New Kent Co. In a subsequent article in THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, V. 25, Dr. Harris describes the land as being at Cedar Hill on the North Anna River, near Doswell of the present day. It was/is here that the tombstone of Temperance Overton lies. . According to Dr. Harris, "Capt Harris first appeared in the records of Hanover on 28 Jan 1706 [really, it was in St. Paul's Parish, which later was in Hanover Co.] when he was appointed surveyor of a new road in the Forks, which places him in the area where he had his home." He gives as his source THE VESTRY BOOK OF ST. PAUL'S PARISH, HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1706-1786, p. 18 (Richmond, 1940). (This information concerning dates is somewhat confusing in that Dr. Harris in a later article states that other children of Robert Harris were born later, e.g. 1709. Perhaps these entries in the parish vestry book pertained to another Robert Harris and not the son of William Harris.) (Captain William Harris should not be confused with an earlier Major William Harris of Charles City Co. who was active in that early county in the 1650s. Refer to Beverly Fleet, VIRGINIA COLONIAL ABSTRACTS "Charles City County, Court Orders 1655-1658" for information concerning the activities of this earlier William Harris.) Dr. Harris states that Capt. Harris's residence was in the Forks of the Pamunkey River at his plantation called Cedar Hill. In Hanover Co., he was a justice of the peace and a vestryman in both St. Paul's Parish and later in St. Martin's Parish. The St. Paul's Vestry Book shows Harris's association with James Overton, 1722. William Harris was a church warden, and later "Mr. James Overton" was admitted as vestryman. Later that year, Cornelius Dabney was on a road gang. These family names, plus those of Rice, Gentry, Garland also certainly help identify this man as of the Harris family who intermarried with these families. However, if Capt. William Harris (wife Temperance Overton) had died in 1687 at age 35, as reported, then the younger William Harris is not the same person. A Younger William Harris Examination of the transcribed version of St. Paul's Parish, Hanover Co., show that in 1722, a William Harris was church warden. Another notation: "To Mr. Wm. Harris for 4 bottles do [claret] 120:C." Because of the association in St. Paul's Parish of William Harris with other persons associated with various members of the Harris family--e.g., James Overton, Cornelius Dabney, Edward Rice, Samuel and Nicholas Gentry, Edward Garland--this is probably the same William Harris of whom Malcolm Hart Harris has written. William Harris was apparently a fairly reliable and honest vestryman, as this entry appears in the cited Vestry Book: "To Tobacco to lie in Mr. Wm. Harris's hands to pay for Books, and Ornaments for the 2 Chapels 7000:CC" (1s of 7br, 1722) According to W. P. Anderson in ANDERSON-OVERTON; A CONTINUATION OF ANDERSON FAMILY RECORDS (1945), at a meeting of the vestry at the Lower Church, St. Paul's Parish, 3 Apr 1716, William Harris was elected vestryman in the room of Captain Robert Anderson, lately deceased. Also according to W. P. Anderson, Robert Anderson II married Mary Overton, sister of Captain James Overton (1633-1749) and daughter of William Overton. (Full title, film of book is at Family History Library, Salt Lake City: Anderson - Overton : a continuation of Anderson family records, published 1936, and the early descendants of William Overton & Elizabeth Waters of Virginia, and allied families, published 1938.) Ca. 1695, Capt William Harris married Temperance Overton, daughter of William Overton and Elizabeth Waters, his wife, who also lived in the Forks. Therefore, Temperance and Mary (Overton) Anderson were sisters. This date may be incorrect, as William Harris is alleged to have died 8 March 1687. Temperance is buried at Cedar Hill. From St. Peter's Parish Register, as quoted by Malcolm H. Harris in A HISTORY OF LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA, p. 348, an earlier publication than the foregoing article, these were the children of William Harris and Temperance Overton: 1. Robert, b. 1696 2. Elizabeth, bapt, Nov 27, 1698 * 3. George, bapt, April 13, 1701 * 4. John, bapt, March 28, 1703 * 5. Thomas 6. William Jr., b. before 1710 Those with asterisks are taken from St. Peter's Parish Register. In the later work published in THE VIRGINIA GENEALOGIST, Dr. Harris had revised this list, using both court and family records. The children of William Harris, as determined by Dr. Harris were: 1. Major Robert Harris of Albemarle Co. (Note: According to the few remaining court records of Hanover of the period 1733-1735, in 1733, Robert Harris was in Hanover, Albemarle not having been formed until 1744. Prior to being in Albemarle Co., however, he was in Louisa Co., where at times he was surveyor for that county. He was also a vestryman, and at times, a member of the House of Burgesses. Reports are that he removed from Albemarle back to Louisa Co.) 2. Benjamin Harris of Hanover. (He was the grantor in a 1733 deed in which Robert Harris was grantee. This was acreage on north fork of Little River and it was land left to Benjamin by the will of his father William Harris, decd, "being commonly known as Walker's Neck.") 3. William Harris, Junior, of St. Paul's Parish. He appears as a witness to a document in Hanover in 1733 and again in 1734. 4. John Harris. He, too, appears in Hanover court records 1733. He may have been the father of John Harris, Jr., who appears in the court records of July 1734. 5. James Harris of Hanover Co. He execute a deed in 1734. 6. Jemima Harris who married her cousin William Overton. There are quite a few references to one James Overton in Hanover Co. records 1733-1734; also in the above-referenced Vestrybook of St. Paul's Parish. A Less Reliable Source Another account, WILLIAM CROSS OF BOTETOURT CO., VIRGINIA, pp. 157-157, gives some conflicting data, which seems less reliable. Dr. Malcolm Harris, in contrast, had throughly studied the early Harris families of Hanover and nearby counties, and his material is more thoroughly documented, at least his later research. (Full name of book, which film is at the Family History Library, Salt Lake City: William Cross of Botetourt Co., Va., and his descendants, 1733-1932 : also a record of the related families of McCown, Gentry-Blythe, Cain- Robertson, Harris-Martin, and Conner, of Virginia, Kentucky, Illinois and Missouri) This is the information from Wm. Cross: William Harris of Hanover and Henrico Cos. was born ca. 1662 in Virginia, married ca. 1696 to Temperance Overton, and died in 1720. His father was Robert Harris and his mother was Mary (Claiborne) Rice. His wife Temperance Harris, the daughter of William Overton, was born 2 Mar 1679 and died 19 Feb 1716. She is buried at Cedar Hill. Their children were listed in Cross's article. Then some unidentified person wrote in birthdates. The bracketed names were "children of William Harris and Elizabeth Burdett." This information is probably less than reliable: Robert Harris b. 1698 m. Mourning Glenn. They were the parents of Overton Harris b. ca. 1728/30, m. Ann Nelson. (This probably cannot be proved. Overton Harris is not named in any of the Louisa Co. deeds Robert Harris made to his children and to his sons-in-law. The parentage of this Overton Harris is unknown to this writer, although it is known such a person existed. He may have been a nephew of Robert Harris.) The following children were allegedly the children of said William Harris and Elizabeth Burdett. This family is not believed to be the writer's direct line. We do not find these names later in Albemarle Co., near "the Blue ledge," where several Harrises, including Christopher, migrated. Frederick Harris b. ca. 1742, m. Eliza Terrell Temperance Harris b. ca. 1750, m. Samuel Baker Jemima Harris m. William Overton [error?] Keziah Harris b. ca. 1750 m. William Overton Mary Harris b. ca. 1727 m. Edward Nelson Anne Emillia m. Wm. Day Benjamin Harris m. Mary, d. ca. 1765 New Kent Co., VA, Parent County of Hanover Co. From Nell Marion Nugent, CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, V. III, (Patent Book 10): P. 135: "William Harris, 400 acs. (N[ew] L[and]) in New Kent Co.; sd Co. adj John Munro, on the north river; 13 Nov. 1713, p. 101. 40 shill." P. 143: "William Harris, 380 acs. (N.L.), New Kent Co., in St. Peter's Par; beg. on the South River over against George Alvis land; to head of Ground Squirrle Br; 16 June 1714, p. 135. Imp. of 8 pers [named]." P. 192: "William Harris, 300 acs.(N.L.), New Kent Co., in St. Paul's Par; beg. at Edward Garland; by Beaver Dam Cr., & c; 15 July 1717, p. 326. Imp. 6 persons [named]." On p. 207, an entry for John Smith states his patent dtd 14 July 1718 is adjacent to William Harris. It is N. side the Beaverdam Cr. and S. side the Northanna (Riv.). Smith's patent was in New Kent Co. in St. Paul's Parish. "Beaverdam Creek" is mentioned in later patents. Pat. Bk 11 has an interesting entry. Because of the proximity to Overton's, perhaps there is a relationship of Richard Harris to the other Harrises of the James River area. "RICHARD HARRIS, of Hanover Co. 2570 (Lapsed lease), New Kent Co., in St. Peter's Par; beg. on Littlepage's line; down Falling Cr; adj. Liddall's; Overton's; & Jenings' line; 24 Apr 1722, p. 86. Granted Benjamin Buckley, 26 Oct 1699 upon condition of seating &c. Now granted, &c. 5 pds. 5 shill. & Imp. of 31 persons [listed]." Hanover County, Formed 1720 from New Kent Co. In Charles P. Blunt, IV, LAND PATENTS AND GRANTS OF HANOVER COUNTY, VIRGINIA (1721-1800) (n.p., ca. 1981) (LAPL Gen R. 975.51 H24 Blu - 001), there is reference to several Harrises. The dates given are later than those in in V. III of Nugent's works, CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS. References to Harrises of Hanover Co., of whatever forename, are given below, in an effort to sort out the relationships. At times, a collateral will also be included, such as Rice, Dabney. From patent books of Hanover Co., VA: Bk 11, p. 156 patent to James Sutor, 17 Nov 1722 makes reference to "William Harris' line." The patent is between the North Anna and Beaverdam Creek, lower corner of John Smith's and Harris' line. (This concurs with other descriptions found in CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, as above. As one can see, the land was formerly in New Kent Co., St. Paul's Parish.) Book 11-160, patent to Abraham Cook, Jr., 18 Feb 1722, makes reference to lines of John Harris "on the ridge between the North Anna and Little Rivers." Names of adjacent landowners were, besides Harris: Edward Garland, John Perkins and James Sutor. Garland and Sutor are mentioned above. It is inferred John Harris was of the same Harris family, since William Harris patented land the next year in the same vicinity. A William Rice is found in the same neighborhood, on the north side of Newfound River. There was present in Hanover Co. at this time one John Glen, his line being given in the patent of Henry Woody, Bk 11-164, dated 18 Feb 1722. This was on the south side of the South Anna. Refer to biography of Mourning Glenn, wife of Robert Harris. Book 11, p. 220 William Harris of Hanover Co (5 Sep 1723) 400 A .. on the ridge between the North Anna and Little Rivers .. corner of Abraham Cook's running to New Market tract lines. Reference to the approximate location of this land is made in an early deed of Louisa Co., VA, which was formed 1742 from Hanover Co. DB A-13-15, 10 Jan 1742 Laurence Redman to William Adams ... 104 acres on north side of the South Anna River, Fredericksville Par., .. William Harris's corner ... down the South Anna River. (Adapted from Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS A AND B, 1742-1759 [Bellevue, WA: Published by author, 1976], p. 1-2.) Book 11, p. 224, patent to Thomas Harris, 5 Sep 1723. 300 acres on the north side of the Little River between the lines of Thomas Sharp and Thomas Rice. Book 11, p. 226, patent to William Harris, 5 Sep 1723; 400 acres on both sides of Bull Swamp. Cornelius Dabney of King William Co., 10 Dec 1724, 400 acres on the north side of the South Anna. Neighbors were Thomas Meriwether and Richard Phillips. Refer to entry on page 15 of Blunt, cited below. Also note county of residence of Dabney. His name or that of a successor is mentioned in the ca. 1796 will of Christopher Harris of Madison Co., KY, Mary Dabney having been Christopher's first wife. Christopher Harris was a son of Major Robert Harris. Book 12, p. 124, patent to Thomas Stanley, 1724 on Cawthorn Branch twice mentions "in William Harris' line." Other neighbors were Williamson, Morris, Chiswell. Book 12, p. 358, patent to William Harris, 24 Mar 1725, 400 acres on both sides of Cubb Creek and Harris' Fork, at Captain Dabney's upper corner. (See CAVALIERS & PIONEERS, V. III, p. 296) Book 12, p. 359, patent to Thomas Harris, 24 Mar 1725, 400 acres on both sides of Harris' fork of Cubb Creek...at William Harris' white oak...at Dabney's white oak. (See CAVALIERS & PIONEERS, V. III, p. 296) If the older William Harris was deceased, then this patent probably refers to a younger William Harris. although death did not interfere with the issuance of a patent, it seems, unless contested. Book 12, p. 389, patent to William Harris, Gentleman, 24 Mar 1725, 76 acres at James Glen's corner, on the north side of the Little River, the upper corner of New Market Line. (Robert Harris was married to Mourning Glen[n]. Is James Glen[n] a relative of hers?) Book 12, p. 419, 24 Mar 1725, mentions Overton's fork of Elk Creek. Although the forename of Overton is not given, the Overtons must have had a patent in this particular area prior to Mar 1725 when the patent of 1,000 acres was made to James Nuckolls, Jr. on both sides of Overton's fork of Elk Creek...at Mr. Dickason's corner. See citation on Page 16, second entry, for William Harris, Jr. William Harris, Jr. William Harris, Jr. is introduced in the following patent: Book 12-419, patent to William Harris, Jr., 1,500 acres, joining to Mrs. Arnold and George Woodroof's lines, in Overton's fork of Elk Creek. P. 16: Re: Captain William Harris. Book 12-420, patent to Captain William Harris, Gentleman, 14 Mar 1725, 266 acres at Thomason's ash on the south side of the Little River at the mouth of Byar's Branch...New Market lines...in Harris' lines. P. 17: Re: John Rice. Book 12-468, patent to John Rice, 24 Mar 1725, 400 acres. Some of boundaries: corner of Philip Higison's in William Rice's line, corner of Mr. Reuben Welch's land at the Head of a Great Glade, to David Thompson's corner. P. 19: Re: John Harris. Book 13-19, patent to William Angeley, 2 Nov 1726 mentions his acreage joining to the lines of Harris, Cook, Aldridge and Garland, John Harris, Abraham Cook, in Sutor's line, on Mussel Point Swamp. P. 22: Re: Robert and William Harris. Book 13-293, patent to Robert Harris, 28 Sep 1728, 400 acres..."by patent dated 5 September 1723 was patented unto William Harris of Hanover County...400 acres...on the ridge between the North Anna and Little River...corner of Abraham Cook's...to New Market lines...Robert Harris of Hanover County hath obtained a patent of the same land." * P. 29: Re: William Harris. Book 13-507, patent to William Harris, 28 Sep 1730, 150 acres...joining to the lines of Mr. William Harris and Henry Davis in Saint Martin's Parish...on the north side of Saxon's Swamp. (This probably the younger Williams Harris as his father reportedly was deceased by this date.) P. 33: Re: Robert Harris. Book 14-216, patent to Thomas Travelian, 25 Aug 1731...between the lines of New Market, Thomas Stocks, Robert Harris, Abraham Cook and Benjamin Henson...in Terry's line. P. 36: Re: John Harris. Book 14-321, patent to Joseph Temple of King William Co., 25 Aug 1731. "Between the lines of John Harris, Thomas Wash, Major Thomas Carr, Richard Bullock, Jr. and Mr. Benjamin Brown...on both sides of the Road in Brown's line...in the Grant line." P. 43: Re: David Harris (a name not mentioned in various genealogies of the Harris family). Book 15-34, patent to John Blalock, 20 June 1733....."on both sides of the South fork of Cubb Creek....pine of David Harris'... Thomas Rice's corner." Other names heretofore not mentioned in previous patents involving Harrises are: John Horn, ... Blalock's [corner], Marmaduke Kimbrow, Christopher Clark, Thomas Foard. Cubb Creek, of course, was mentioned in connection with patents in Book 12-358 and 359, cited above. David Harris probably is of the William Harris family. Kimbrow's patent in Book 14-213, dated 1731, shows his land was on both sides of Cubb Cr, on N. side the South Anna Riv; adj. Capt. Clark & William Harris. (See Nugent, V. III, p. 399). There are many references to Christopher Clark in the same volume of Nugent. Fifty plus years later, we find this deed: P. 88: Re: Overton Harris.* Book 14-297, patent to Overton Harris, 23 Nov 1787. 508 acres...471 1/4 acres being formerly patented, the residue never before patented...former patent dated 17 Nov 1786...on the north fork of Pamunkey River adjoing Overton Harris' land, Jacob Williams' land and Degernet's (DeJarnette?) land. *It is to be noted that this Overton Harris is not the son of Christopher Harris of Albemarle Co., VA, later of Madison Co., KY, where both Christopher and his youngest son Overton died, c 1794 and 1827, respectively. The Overton Harris to whom land was patented in Hanover Co. in 1787 may have been related to the Harrises who had migrated to Albemarle Co., VA before 1787. More study is needed of the families named in this patent. The following patent of Widow Littlepage links her as a neighbor of Thomas Clayborn, Jr., of Pr. William Co., whose family seems linked with the early generations of Harrises: Patent Bk. 11: FRANCES LITTLEPAGE, Widdow, of New Kent Co.; 725 acs (N.L.), King Wm. Co. in St. John's Par; below Cohoke Creek, bet. land of Mr. Thomas Clayborn, Junr., called Cohoke & Pomonkey River, on the N. side thereof; adj Richard Howel's Landing; & Thomas Clayborne, Junr., son of John Claiborne, dec'd; 5 Sept 1723, p. 229. 15 Shill. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Dear Pam, I am totally unsure that William Harris (wife Temperance Overton) of colonial Pamunkey River area is descended from a Robert Harris. I do think your genealogist friend, Mrs. Davis, whose name is familiar to me, was right in being dubious about Robert being the father of William. I have just now referred to my notes, made some years ago, about Robert Harris, the purported immigrant to Virginia, and I see that I have extensive quotes from Mrs. Davis. When I do research on a person, particularly if he/she has lived in colonial Virginia or North Carolina, I try very hard to find land records. It is estimated by some knowledgeable genealogists/lecturers/authors that in the early days of this country, fully 90 per cent of the Anglo [and I might add German] population owned land. I find land records for a Robert Harris are extremely vague. Since William Harris of Pamunkey River area acquired a good many acres, according to the Virginia land patents, I am dubious that he is linked to the land-poor [it seems] Robert Harris, the purported immigrant. Information about an early Robert Harris in Virginia seems extremely vague. Then, to confuse matters, Malcolm Hart Harris, MD, an ardent genealogist, has written about William Harris, and he discovered there were three of them. It has been some years since I reviewed Dr. Harris's articles in The Virginia Genealogist, but I do NOT recall that he linked William Harris (wife Temperance Overton), who can be pretty well documented, with an immigrant ancestor, Robert Harris, In conclusion, I think we are right to question the linkage of these two colonial Virginians. Thank you for stirring me to review my notes. I am going to send them via a different e-mail. All I ask--if others use this material in their genealogies/family histories, please cite the sources. You do not need to cite my conclusions, but do give credit to those who have published their works. Genealogies without citations are rather worthless. Your progeny will ask, Where did you get that information? E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

A while back there was a big to-do about a Crews male in early Madison Co., KY --I forget which one. At any rate, while trying to file in my clutter room, I found an excerpt photocopied years ago. The 1788 tax list for Madison Co., KY, was found in the basement of Administration Building, Old Capitol, May 1922. It was transcribed and published Vol. 20, Register of the Kentucky Historical Society, 1922. (You probably can order a copy from either the Kentucky Historical Society or from the Allen County Indiana Public Library. Expect to pay a fee. There are three pages. On this list taken by Robert Rodes, Commissioner in the County of Madison for the year 1788 were these Crews males. (If Kentucky followed the example of her parent county, Virginia, then males 16 and over were tithable/taxable.) Crews, Thomas 1 -- 4 Crews, David 2 - 2 - 13 Crews, Elijah 1 -- 2 First figure: White Males Tithes second figure - Blacks over 16 third figure - horses and cattle Comparing David Crews holdings of horses and cattle, one may deduce he was one of the wealthier taxables. E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com