Hello, I am looking for GREEN WOODS born to Peter Woods and Jael Kavanaugh Woods. He married Mary Estes in 1822 MO. Thanks Sandra

Sandra, My Kelly family married into the Woods line and also Estes line. They left Madison Co, Ky to Franklin Co, Tenn to Cole, Moniteau and Morgan counties Mo. Write me if interested. Gay Nix Sandra Woods <swood4@mi.rr.com> wrote: Hello, I am looking for GREEN WOODS born to Peter Woods and Jael Kavanaugh Woods. He married Mary Estes in 1822 MO. Thanks Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Folks, Just getting around to another Buford Website up-date. Hope this finds you all well and looking forward to Thanksgiving. I am - it's my favorite holiday when family and friends get together and exchange all that has happened to us in the past year. The weather forecast for next Thursday is snow - now, it just doesn't get any better than that. The Grandsons will have a ball.... Drop by and take a look at my new up-date... www.bufordfamilies.com My very best wishes to you all, Fern K. Buford Walker

From: "Skye" <skylark6160@windstream.net> Subject: Re: [VAHANOVE] Tyree Harris of Madison Co., KY Were all of the Christopher Harris children born in Hanover County, Virginia? Here is my longish response to Skylark's query. ((I am telling you more than you really want to know. But since Christopher Harris named 19 children in his will, there probably a LOT of descendants *out there* from coast to coast and probably overseas!!) If you see errors or want to give me corrections, please e-mail me. A lot of material in the past has been posted on Harris-Hunters. You can search the archives. E.W.Wallace Who can say where Christopher Harris's children were born? Unless you can find their names in a vestry book, vital records for colonial Virginia are quite scarce. And, of course, Hanover Co. is a *burned county*, much to my distress. (Christopher Harris died testate ca 1794 in Madison Co., KY.) Louisa Co., VA is probably a better guess as to birthplace of Christopher's children, and guess it must be!!! Albemarle Co. might be a guess for the younger children by Agnes McCord. Christopher Harris was son of Major Robert Harris [wife, Mourning said to be Glen or Glenn], who was surveyor for Louisa Co. [some documents so state], sometimes vestryman ca 1758 for Fredericksville Parish, and served at least one term in House of Burgesses. Here is a little history of Christopher Harris. His first wife is said to have been Mary Dabney. His second wife was Agnes McCord. E.W.Wallace In 1746/47 Christopher Harris patented land in Louisa Co. which had been formed from Hanover Co. Patent Bk 28: Christopher Harris, 350 acs. Louisa Co., under the foot of ragged Mountains and on both sides of a West fork of Rockey Cr. on the Goochland Co. Line [N65 degrees W] on a ridge, adj. Mosias Jones & James Merideth; 12 Jan 1746/47, p. 25. 1 pd. 15 shillings (D. R. Hudgins, CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, V. V, [Richmond, VA: Virginia Genealogical Society, 1994] p. 304) From Louisa Co. DB B. P. 500-501. 27 May 1753 Robert Harris of Fredericksville Par., Louisa Co., Gent., and Mourning, his wife, to William Keaton of same. For and in consideration that sd. Keaton and Margaret, his wife, shall by deed make over to Christopher Harris (Son of afsd. Robert) for fee simple estate, 331 acres of land and plantation of William Keaton's; bounded as in a patent granted sd. Keaton in City of Williamsburg 12 Jan. 1747. Sd. Harris have sold to sd. Keaton 400 acres and plantation of sd. Robert Harris on both sides of Rockey Creek, being land whereon sd. Keaton now lives, bounded as by patent granted sd. Harris in City of Williamsburg 15 Sept. 1752. Robert Harris Mourning Harris Wit: John Hawkins, David Watts, John (X) McCauley. 27 Mar 1752 acknowledged by Robert Harris and Mourning, his wife. (Mourning Harris, Robert's wife, is said to have been was the former Mourning Glenn. The deed cited above is not entirely clear. It seems that although Keaton had patented 331 acres in 1747, he was purchasing other land from Robert Harris, on which land Keaton was already residing. Robert Harris, in turn, was recording that Keaton was to turn over to Harris's son Christopher the acreage Keaton had patented previously. We have not discovered any blood or marriage relationship of Keaton to the Harris family, but there may be one.) P. 501-502. 27 Mar 1753 William Keaton of Fredericksville Par., Louisa Co., and Margaret, his wife, to Christopher Harris of same. In consideration that Robert Harris of Louisa Co., and Mourning, his wife, shall by deed make over to William Keaton 400 acres and plantation, bounded as in a patent granted sd. Harris in 1752, land whereon William Keaton now lives. Have sold to sd. Christopher Harris 331 acres on both sides of the south fork of Rocky Creek whereon sd. Christopher Harris now lives; bounded as in a patent granted sd. Keaton in the City of Williamsburg 12 Jan. 1747. William (M) Keaton Margaret (X) Keaton Wit: John Hawkins, David Watts, John (X) McCauley 27 Mar. 1753 acknowledged by William Keaton. George II to Mosias Jones, David Milles, Gentlemen Justices of Louisa Co. Power granted to take acknowledgment of Margaret Keaton, who is so impotent that without great Danger of her body she cannot travel to the Court of our County. 3 Apr 1753. James Littlepage, Clk. 20 Apr. 1753 By virtue of this writ we have examined sd. Margaret, wife of William Keaton, who acknowledgted her right of dower. Mosias Jones, David Mills (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS A AND B, 1742-1759 [Bellevue, WA 1976] p. 84) Note that these two deeds, probably deeds of lease and release, were dated the same day. It is said that deeds of lease and release were made in order to avoid taxes. Patents in Albemarle Co. Albemarle Co. was formed from Louisa Co. Christopher Harris patented land in Albemarle Co. as indicated below: Patent Bk No. 36 Christopher Harris, 162 acs. Albemarle Co. on Ginsang br. in Mill Stone bottom, adj. his own line; 15 Aug 1764, p. 624. 1 Pd. (Dennis Ray Hudgins, ed., CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, Vol Seven: 1762-1776 [RIchmond, VA: Virginia Genealogical Society, 1999], p. 61) Albemarle Co. Deeds of 1771-1772 indicate that in 1771, 14 November, Christopher Harris sold this parcel of land to William Crawford. Agness Harris joined Christopher in completing this transaction. (Ruth & Sam Sparacio, ALBEMARLE COUNTY DEED BOOK 5 1768-1772, PART II, [McLean, VA: The Antient Press] p. 77-78) Christopher Harris's Marriages Christopher's first wife, according to Hazel A. Spraker in THE BOONE FAMILY, ("Harris Family" by Bess Hawthorne, a Harris descendant) was Mary Dabney. In Christopher's will (1794, Madison Co., KY), cited below, he mentions bequest of Cornelius Dabney, probably Mary's father or possibly brother. The bequest was to Harris's oldest children, implying that these were his children by Mary Dabney. A Cornelius Dabney was in King William Co. ca. 1723, but also in Hanover Co. 1733-34 (Hanover Co. Court Records), and in Louisa Co., VA as late as 1782. The latter Cornelius Dabney would have been contemporaneous with Christopher Harris but possibly predeceasing him. It is known there were several men by this name of succeeding generations. The Dabneys were neighbors in Albemarle Co. in 1768 as evidenced by the following deed, DB-5, pp. 37-38: William Dabney & his wf. Jane of Albemarle Co. to William Shelton for 200 pds. current money of VA, a tract of land on Mechams River, adj Wm. Wallace. (s) Wm. Dabney Wit: Thomas Grubbs, Elizabeth Jones, Christopher Harris, Robert Harris, Tyre Harris. 2 Jun 1768; delivery of deed acknd by witnesses on same date. Rec. Nov Ct 1768 (Tyre or Tyree Harris, brother of Christopher, later removed to Orange Co. NC from which Caswell Co. was formed in 1777. See his separate biography. William Shelton married into the Harris family. He had a son named Tyree and so did Christopher Harris.) Louisa County VA Records Christopher Harris was a witness in Louisa Co. 24 Nov 1750 to Martin's improvements, apparently an appraisal by three men (by order of Louisa Court Oct 1750). An indication of the approximate location of the land of Christopher Harris in Louisa Co. is found in this entry in Fredericksville Parish Vestry Book: P. 35: [23 Sept. 1751] "Ordered that Mosias Jones and Christopher Harris do procession all the lands on the up[p]er side of Buck mountain Creek and a Cross Moormans river to the Coty. Line and up the Same to the Ragged Mountains and under them to Brown's road and down the Same to Buck Mountain Creek." (Rosalie Edith Davis, FREDERICKSVILLE PARISH VESTRY BOOK, 1742-1787, VOL. I [Manchester, MO: privately printed, 1978], p. 38 "Pursuant to an Order of Court Dated ye 24th Day of June 1752," an almost identical order was issued to Moisas Jones Gent. and Christopher Harris. (p. 51) Also living in Fredericksville Parish at the same time were Christopher's father, Robert Harris "Gent." and brother Tyree Harris. Tyree succeeded his father Robert as vestryman, but he later migrated to North Carolina, and a Robert Harris, presumably the father, was appointed vestryman to take the place of Tyree Harris who had removed. Jeremiah Glen, no doubt a relative of Christopher and Tyree's mother, Mourning Glen, was a resident in the parish also. (Mourning's father is believed to have been James Glen, but the exact identity of Mourning's parents is in dispute among contemporary genealogists.) Much later, Christopher was again ordered to procession: P. 81 [ca 1767] "Ordered that Xtopher Harris & Daniel Maupine Junr. do procession all the lands above (a hole in the page) ... res Meeting House between Moreman's river and Woods Road up to the top of the Great Mountain." (Davis, op. cit., p. 85) A William Dabney appears in the orders. He was to procession between Wood's and Rhodes Road & the River and Ivy Creek. Albemarle Co. Records Albemarle Co., VA was formed 1744 from Louisa and Goochland Cos. A Virginia land patent of Tully Choice, Pat. Bk 31-711 indicates that his land is on the Branches of Rockey Creek and the Albemarle Co. Line [N50W] and adjoins Christopher Harris, William Keatton, Patrick Wood & William Owens. In Albemarle Co., there is this deed: DB A?-p158: 13 May 1762 Christopher Harris to Saml. Karr, Augusta [Co.] for 65 pds., 331 acres both sides S fork Rockey Creek adj. Henry Bunch, Mosias [transcribed as Morias but other records show Mosias] Jones. (Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1761-1807 AND ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1748-1763, p. 54) This parcel of 331 acres seems to be the same which Keaton had sold to Christopher Harris nine years earlier and which Robert Harris, Christopher's father, had earlier sold to Keaton with proviso that it was to be later transferred to Christopher. (This type of conveyance usually occurred between an older man to a younger relative or a trusted friend when the son of the grantor was underage. The relationship of Keaton to the Harris family is unknown. Perhaps he was a brother-in-law of Robert Harris--perhaps his wife was a sister of Mournin Glen [conjecture].) From Albemarle Co., VA court papers 1744-1783: 1770 [p. 32] Promissory note: Philip Thurman of Albemarle Co. to Christopher Harris, dated 10 Mar 1770, witnessed by Robert Harris and Benjamin Thurman. (On back "To Mr. Robert Harvey: Sir, please pay this bond. Signed Philip Thurman.) (Comment: This may be the younger Robert Harris, Christopher's brother or perhaps Christopher's son of the same name.) (Benjamin B. Weisiger III, ALBEMARLE CO., VA COURT PAPERS 1744-1783, FHL film 1,697,895 Item 9) The following deeds of Louisa Co. make reference to Albemarle Co. line: Deed Bk. B-136-137 makes mention of Christopher Harris's land. The deed is dated 14 Jul 1756 is from Tully Choice of Halifax Co., grantor, to James Ennis of Louisa Co....on branches of Rockey Creek...Christopher Harris and William Keaton's corner...Patrick Woods line...Williams Owens line, corner in Albemarle Co. line...Christopher Harris' corner in the County line. Deed Bk. B-300 also makes reference to land of Christopher Harris. James Ennis & wife of Louisa to James Read of same...on branches of Rockey Creek.. Christopher Harrises and William Keaton's corner...Patrick Wood's line...William Owens line to Owen's corner oak in Albemarle Co. line...Christopher Harris' corner in Co. line. (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VA DEED BOOKS A AND B, 1742-1759 [Bellevue, WA: Published by author, 1976]) More Albemarle Co., VA Records DB Bk 3-171 3 Apr 1762, Christopher Harris was a witness to a deed Ro. Harris, planter, to son Ro., Jr., love - on Blue Ridge, Doyle River, pat. of 521 acres 6 Dec 1753. Other witnesses were Jas. Harris and Wm. Brown. On 3 Apr 1762, DB 3-175 Benj. Brown deeded property to his daughter, Lucretia Harris. The witnesses were Jas. & Christopher Harris, Wm. Brown, and Benj. Thurman. (Of interest is the fact that Benj. Brown a few months earlier had deeded land on Doyle River [in Albemarle Co.] to Benjamin Brown [Jr.] of Hanover. (But he is not specified as Benj. Brown, Jr.). Hanover Co. was the former home of the Harrises. THE BOONE FAMILY states that Brown Sr.'s wife was Sarah Dabney. Lucretia Brown, a daughter of Benjamin Brown, (grantor in above deed), married Robert Harris, Jr. Refer to the biography of Robert Harris, Jr., who is inferred from DB 3-264 to have been the husband of the above Lucretia [Brown] Harris. Christopher again witnessed that deed.) (Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1761-1807 AND ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1748-1763, Easley, SC, 1979) Christopher Harris appears on the personal property tax list of Albemarle Co., VA, 1782. He is shown with 9 slaves, 27 cattle, 4 horses, paying a tax of 5 pounds, 14 shillings, and 9 pence. Two other Harrises are shown as proprietors in District 3: James and Thomas. Harris's first wife, Mary Dabney, must have died before 1769 as on that date, Agnes (McCord) appears as Harris's wife in Albemarle Co. deeds. Two other McCords are shown in District 3: Jane, probably a widow, and William. (Thomas Jefferson, Esq., is shown in District 2 on the 1782 tax list of Albemarle Co.. He counted 2 males over 21; 129 slaves; 106 net cattle; 23 horses; 6 "wheels for riding carriages," paying a tax of 70 pounds, 12 shillings, and 6 pence.) In Augusta Co. VA, Deed Bk 22-p. 395 indicates that Christopher Harris and Agness (--) executed a deed, 17 Nov 1778. (Lyman Chalkley, CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTTISH-IRISH SETTLEMENT, V. 3.) However, an earlier entry in fee books of Augusta Co. for 1774, page 49 has this cryptic remark: Page 49, Christopher Harris, Albemarle, (May), Caldwell's deeds to you. (Chalkley, V. 2, p. 408) Land office records in Virginia Archives show the following Virginia land patents or grants for Christopher Harris in Albemarle Co., VA: 1. 15 Aug 1764 - 164 A on Gingsang br. in Millstone Bottom, Patents No. 36, 1764-67, p. 624 2. 17 Aug 1770 - 234 A on the side of one of the Mountains in the Blue Ridge called Bucks Elbow. Patent No. 39, 1770-71, p. 10 3. 6 Apr 1792 - 3 1/2 On the S side of Moorman's River, Grants 26, 1792, p. 171. (Of interest is that 1792 is the same year Christopher Harris was granted land in Kentucky. See below). Christopher's father Robert Harris also patented land in Albemarle Co. in 1751. See his biography. In 1751, Christopher Harris and his neighbor Mosias Jones were ordered by Fredericksville Parish vestry to procession some land in Fredericksville Par., Louisa, Co., as indicated previously. Refer to biography of Agnes McCord, which mentions watercourse in Albemarle Co. >From Albemarle Co. Deed Bk 5: 14 Nov 1771 Christopher Harris and his wife Agnes Albemarle County of one part and William Crawford of the said County for .. pounds current money of Virginia 350 A.in Albemarle Co. under the foot of the Ragged Mountains and both sides of a West Fork of Rock Creek .. in Mosias Jones's line, adj James Merridiths line to a corner in Goochland Co. line, West Fork of Rockey Creek to the first station. Signed Sealed and Delivered in the presence of Bennet Henderson Robert Miller. Christopher Harriss Thomas Maupin Minian Mills Agness Harriss ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

>From Madison Co., KY Deed Book B-360 [abstract] [from Family History Library film 183,283] 6 October 1790 Caleb Calloway and Elizabeth his wife of Campbell County, Virginia & Christopher Harris of Madison Co., Kentucky for 200 pounds southwest corner of Hornbuckle preemption 200 acres Caleb Calloway [LS] [legal seal] witnesses T. Hall, David Gass John Mitchell, Benjamin Duncan Jr. Submitted by E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Please pass this along to rootsweb sites where you think some readers/subscribers may be interested. Janice L. Abercrombie, a well-known genealogist-author of Virginia has abstracted a good many Louisa Co. Virginia deeds, and perhaps wills (which I have not yet explored). They -- the abstracts -- can be found currently [let's hope this website is more or less permanent] on this URL _http://trevilians.com/_ (http://trevilians.com/) A good many of Louisa Co. residents settled in Kentucky--and probably in North Carolina, before they came to Kentucky. As one lecturer from Salt Lake City says, If you are studying Virginia, research ALL the counties. I have found that advice to be most helpful. Your ancestors, like mine, migrated here and there. E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Mary Ann; Having Joel TODD in the family, I have long known about Berea and its philosophical heritage in fact wanted my Granddaughter to go there for her veterinarian degree. Like Missouri School of the Ozarks, they teach life skills, too. Thank you for the Item. Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. A. Farrell Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:53 PM To: MadCoList Subject: [MADKY] Berea in Top 10! Reading my Nov-Dec "Sierra Magazine" (Sierra Club Publication) this afternoon, I see that Berea is #7 in the top 10 schools named by Sierra Club as most environmentally aware in the U.S. This is what's said about Berea College: "(Berea, Kentucky, 1,600 students.) The first interracial and coeducational college in the South is staying ahead on environmental issues too. Berea College is perhaps best known (at lease in sustainable circles) for its Ecovillage, a housing complex for students and their families that incorporates passive-solar design elements, heavy-duty insulation, efficient appliances and fixtures, and rainwater collection. The ideals of the Ecovillage are reflected throughout this progressive Christian college, from the dining-hall menus that feature campus-raised produce and meat to the new solar array on the roof of the Alumni Memorial Building." The others in Sierra Club's top 10: 1. Oberlin College, Ohio 2. Harvard University, Mass 3. Warren Wilson College, NC 4. University of California, 10 locations 5. Duke University, NC 6. Middlebury College, Vermont 8. Pennsylvania State U, 24 locations 9. Tufts University, Mass 10. Carnegie Mellon U, Penn. Way to go, Berea!! Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Reading my Nov-Dec "Sierra Magazine" (Sierra Club Publication) this afternoon, I see that Berea is #7 in the top 10 schools named by Sierra Club as most environmentally aware in the U.S. This is what's said about Berea College: "(Berea, Kentucky, 1,600 students.) The first interracial and coeducational college in the South is staying ahead on environmental issues too. Berea College is perhaps best known (at lease in sustainable circles) for its Ecovillage, a housing complex for students and their families that incorporates passive-solar design elements, heavy-duty insulation, efficient appliances and fixtures, and rainwater collection. The ideals of the Ecovillage are reflected throughout this progressive Christian college, from the dining-hall menus that feature campus-raised produce and meat to the new solar array on the roof of the Alumni Memorial Building." The others in Sierra Club's top 10: 1. Oberlin College, Ohio 2. Harvard University, Mass 3. Warren Wilson College, NC 4. University of California, 10 locations 5. Duke University, NC 6. Middlebury College, Vermont 8. Pennsylvania State U, 24 locations 9. Tufts University, Mass 10. Carnegie Mellon U, Penn. Way to go, Berea!! Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Thank you Mary Alice, I have been "put Done" more than once by "but Chalkley(or Jilison or Draper) says. I have so much to learn, but found years ago take the item and prove/ disprove. Now if I could Just find Proof on Littleton WEST 175?. AND Virginian Joseph CLARK of the same time period. Bud. -----Original Message----- From: madky-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:madky-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. A. Farrell Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:08 PM To: madky@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MADKY] Chalkley - Some Abstracts of Augusta Co. Court Records My observations: I have most all the original filmed records from Augusta County VA, as I do of many Madison Co records; Chalkley's extractions leave out much valuable details in all entries not just the Germans he skipped over. Many people "quote" these extractions as the whole fact and proof, not knowing what they are doing. I use the on-line version for index to research original records, but also consult other indexes. The original territory encompassing Augusta Co VA (and some of its parent, Orange county), went all the way West to the Mississippi River, and North to the edges of Lake Michigan and Lake Erie. Many documents in the old Augusta Co Court Order Books, Circuit Ct records, Probate and Deed records, describe residents and their properties which obviously were later in other states and counties created from Augusta. (See the animated progression maps of VA counties on the Library of VA website, and other publications.) Just recently I had a discussion about an Augusta will written in 1748 by a man whose property was in perhaps 3 other counties by 1800; many using Chalkley's extract of this will have perpetuated grave errors. You may apply this warning to everything in Chalkley's three volumes as published by DAR members ca.1905. West Virginia was not "split off" until 1863 (Civil War), very recently as far as old records go. Still, the online version of "The Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlements of Augusta Co VA" is easy to use as a guide to proper research, as stated in previous post.. Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am also interested in the Turner family of Madison County. I don't know where Red Lick and Blue Lick are, but I was once told that there were Turners living on the west side of the county beyond what is now I-75. My great-grandfather was Squire Turner Willis and I'm told that his father James Willis or his grandfather Drury Willis lived on a farm adjacent to the Turners. Squire Turner Willis was born there and, by conjecture, possibly named for that family. If either of you know of a connection or relationship between the Turner family and the Willis family, I'd like to know about it. Thanks, Doug carpenter@bright.net wrote: > Sandy, > > Martha is buried at Red Lick and a stone marks her grave. I don't believe a stone marks Stephen's grave so it has deteriorated or is in an unmarked grave. I show Stephen died b4 1900. I also show Martha later married Stephen's brother William. I have not tried to find this marriage record but was told this by Matt Lake whom I have many hours on tape and had an impeccable memory. He could be wrong but if I was a betting man, I bet on Matt. Martha's parents were John "Grit" Lakes and Rutha Jane Clemmons. > > If you could email me directly at carpenter@bright.net, I would love to have your line to Stephen and will help you anyway I can. > > Rod > > Rod > >> From: "dkuhn" <dkuhn@rnetinc.net> >> Date: Tue Oct 30, 12:25 PM >> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [MADKY] John Turner, Littleton West >> >> i am interested in the turner in madison and clay co.,ky. my grandmother was >> ettie turner daughter of stephen/steven turner and martha lakes. my >> grandmother is buried on blue lick outside of berea ky. i have to go back >> because i believe steve and martha are at red lick. hope to hear from you. >> sandy dkuhn@rnetinc.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Panda Bear" <pandachickenmama@gmail.com> >> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:55 AM >> Subject: [MADKY] John Turner, Littleton West >> >> >> >>> I would love to hear from anyone researching: >>> >>> John Turner, b. 18 Mar 1794 in Madison Co. KY; d. 17 Oct 1872 Ray Co. >>> MO. or >>> his father in law Littleton West, b. 20 Nov 1755 Sussex Co. Del; d. >>> after Aug. 1833, probably Ray Co. MO. >>> >>> John Turner married (Sarah?) Jane West ca. 7 Jun 1814 in Madison Co. >>> KY. The Turners and Littleton West moved to Ray Co. probably soon >>> after that, as James Jones Turner was born 30 May 1815 in Ray Co. MO. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Denice W. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

MAFarr has indicated that sometimes the fact that an agreement, such as the one between Anderson Chenault and Nancy Harris [nee Oldham], is not recorded preceding the marriage but somewhat later, may indicate a divorce. I am going to share with you my abstract of the agreement recorded in Madison Co., KY deed book. In return, will you share with me your thoughts. As stated, in the 1850 censuses, I find Chenault and Mrs. Chenault in separate households. E.W.Wallace descendant of Nancy (Oldham) (Harris) Chenault Here goes: From Madison Co., KY Deed Bk X-361, written 31 Jul 1837, filed 4 Aug 1838. It is of interest that the it was recorded on the first anniversary of their marriage. Abstracted the agreement reads: Anderson Chenault and Nancy Harris, both of Madison Co., KY... whereas there is a marriage shortly comtemplated ... between .. the parties.... they agree that when such marriage takes place .. Nancy Harris is to give up .. to Anderson Chenault her lifetime estate in the slaves and land of her former husband Overton Harris deceased to be lotted (?) to her by the County of Madison [KY] .. for their mutual support and benefit, but she is to retain the right and control of all her other estate of every description free from the use and control of said Anderson Chenault and the profit arising therefrom and also her right to Dower in lands of her decd. husband in the State of Missouri .... agreed that said Nancy Harris shall have full (underscored) power and authority to give sell and dispose of said estate or any part thereof by will .... she may wish to do so and if during her lifetime she shall have failed to dispose of said estate or any part thereof ... in that case that part not disposed of is to descend to her children to the descendents of her children as the case may be according to law. And it is further agreed by .. the parties that the said Anderson Chenault in consideration of said Nancy Harris giving up to him the use and profits of the slaves and land aforesaid, he is to take such of her children home with him after an allotment of said slaves and land to his place and possession of the same is given to him as are now infants and raise, board and cloathe them in the same manner as he does his own children free of expense as long as they remain minors and shall to agree to live with him, and it further agreed .. between the parties that should the said Nancy Harris outlive the said Chenault then in that case the slaves and land heretofore given up by .. Nancy Harris is to return to her... it is further agreed between the parties that should they both live until the first day of January 1848 from that time the said Nancy Harris is to be entitled to receive one half of the hire and rent of said slaves and land or the worth of same is used by her and at her disposal (illegible) reserved estate.. it is further agreed that Nancy Harris .. hereby disclaims all right of dower in and to the estate of said Chenault after his decease. /s/ Anderson Chenault /s/ Nancy Harris Test: Napoleon G. Tevis, Wm. J. Pasley Examined: ... County Clerk David Jame (?) recorded 4 Aug 1838. Acknowledged by Anderson & Nancy [interlined: his wife late Nancy] Harris to be their act and deed ... Oaths [given by] Napoleon G. Tevis and W. J. Pasley ... /s/ David Jame (?) The agreement was not recorded until the first anniversary of Nancy's remarriage. Madison Co. census of 1850, 12 Aug, p. 254, Dwelling 112, Family 112 shows Nancy Chenault in a separate household from Anderson Chenault. Page 254, Dwelling 112, Family 112 Nancy Chenault, age 59, F, RE $7,000, b. Madison Christopher Harris, age 19, M, farmer, RE $5,000, b. Madison Amanda Alexander, age 11, F, b. Madison, attended school; mark in column "Whether deaf & dumb, blind, insane, idiot, pauper, or convict" James Tevis, age 14, M, Madison, attended school. (The Tevis child may be a child of Elizabeth Harris and her husband Joseph Tevis. The Alexander child in the Chenault household cannot be identified. Were the Alexander children orphans? Reason for this hypothesis: In another nearby household, the household of John and Nancy Gentry, there is a Robert Alexander, age 13. Source inspected Nov 2006.) Was Nancy caring for some children in their own home? Or was this her own home? Next door in the same census is the household of her son Sidney W. Harris, age 35, and his family. Nancy Oldham (Harris) Chenault evidently carried out some of the terms of her pre-nuptial agreement and had a close associate, Napoleon Tevis, as a trustee. This is reflected in the abstract of a Madison Co. deed. Dated 8 Dec 1852 the deed is between Sidney W. Harris and Mary, his wife, of the first part (grantors) and Napolean [sic] G. Tevis, trustee for Nancy Chenault, wife of Anderson Chenault of the second part, grantee.... 77 A, Callaway's Creek.... "as trustee for said Nancy Chenault free from the control, contracts or debts of any husband she now has..." Deed book and page were not noted. Cursory examination of the deed indexes of Madison Co. indicate that Anderson Chenault may have been a land speculator. Anderson Chenault apparently died Nov 1854. He and Nancy executed a deed to Nathaniel Oldham 20 Sep 1852, but by 8 June 1855, Anderson's heirs were executing a deed, indicating he had died. Nancy died in 1858. According to snapshots sent by a distant cousin of Kentucky, she and her first husband, Overton Harris, are buried together on the lands of the former Waller Chenault near Richmond, KY. The house is called "Goshen Hall," and in 1994 was still standing, somewhere near Richmond, KY. Shortly before her death, Nancy [Oldham] [Harris] Chenault was involved with her neighbors in working with the county toward a new route for a road. Madison Co. Court Order Book L [?], Monday April 5, 1859, p. 396: "On motion of Nancy Chenault, it is ordered that William L. Neale, Joshua Shaw and Josiah P. Chenault, or any two of them who being first sworn, do view the nearest and best way for an alteration in the road leading from the Turnpike at the tollgate near Benjamin Howard's to the Boonsboro' road where the same passes over the lands of Dawson Oldham and said Nancy Chenault, commencing near the gate of Dawson Oldham's, nearest the Boonsboro' pike and that the view the old and proposed routes and report to this Court the conveniences and inconveniences that will result either to the public or to individuals from the establishment [of] afsaid alteration. {On April 23, 1858 alteration be established and ordered that Nancy Chenault pay costs of this proceeding.) (FHL film 183,278 Madison County, Kentucky Court Order Book Vol. L [?]) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Sandy, Martha is buried at Red Lick and a stone marks her grave. I don't believe a stone marks Stephen's grave so it has deteriorated or is in an unmarked grave. I show Stephen died b4 1900. I also show Martha later married Stephen's brother William. I have not tried to find this marriage record but was told this by Matt Lake whom I have many hours on tape and had an impeccable memory. He could be wrong but if I was a betting man, I bet on Matt. Martha's parents were John "Grit" Lakes and Rutha Jane Clemmons. If you could email me directly at carpenter@bright.net, I would love to have your line to Stephen and will help you anyway I can. Rod Rod > > From: "dkuhn" <dkuhn@rnetinc.net> > Date: Tue Oct 30, 12:25 PM > To: <madky@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [MADKY] John Turner, Littleton West > > i am interested in the turner in madison and clay co.,ky. my grandmother was > ettie turner daughter of stephen/steven turner and martha lakes. my > grandmother is buried on blue lick outside of berea ky. i have to go back > because i believe steve and martha are at red lick. hope to hear from you. > sandy dkuhn@rnetinc.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Panda Bear" <pandachickenmama@gmail.com> > To: <madky@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:55 AM > Subject: [MADKY] John Turner, Littleton West > > > >I would love to hear from anyone researching: > > > > John Turner, b. 18 Mar 1794 in Madison Co. KY; d. 17 Oct 1872 Ray Co. > > MO. or > > his father in law Littleton West, b. 20 Nov 1755 Sussex Co. Del; d. > > after Aug. 1833, probably Ray Co. MO. > > > > John Turner married (Sarah?) Jane West ca. 7 Jun 1814 in Madison Co. > > KY. The Turners and Littleton West moved to Ray Co. probably soon > > after that, as James Jones Turner was born 30 May 1815 in Ray Co. MO. > > > > Thanks, > > Denice W. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

M. A. Farrell indicates a certain amount of interest in the pre-nuptial agreement of the subject persons. The following have been my conclusions after stumbling on this document in the filmed Madison Co. deeds. Nancy Harris nee Oldham was widow of Overton Harris (d. testate 1827). Overton was one of the younger sons of Christopher Harris, formerly of Albemarle Co., VA and his second wife Agnes McCord. Anderson Chenault, whose parentage is not entirely clear to me, was a rather recent widower, and Nancy had been a widow for about ten years. (Was Anderson Chenault the son of David Chenault the elder, or of a younger Chenault? Some say a William Chenault was his father and his mother Elizabeth Mullins. Any verification of the last statement?) Overton Harris's will was written in such a way that if Nancy, his widow, remarried, she would lose control of ALL the property. Some of the property was in Missouri, if I remember correctly. Nancy had a houseful of children whom she had to support, and several of them were quite young when Overton died, including my second great-grandmother Carlisle Harris. (Carlisle married Michael Lowery Stoner and migrated to Texas with him and about five children about 1859. Carlisle promptly died of *stomach inflamation*, says the 1860 Texas mortality schedule.). My hunch is that Nancy 1) had a smart attorney or smart advisor advising her to draw up this pre-nuptial agreement and 2) she probably guessed, as I have, that Anderson was a land speculator--at least judging from the number of times his name is indexed in at least the grantor indexes of Madison Co. (This is a hunch only. We genealogists have to form some hypotheses and then TRY to check them out. I really should check the Court Order books to see how many times Anderson shows up in lawsuits!!!) Anyway, Nancy outlived Anderson, for about 4 years. I believe he died ca 1854, and she died in 1858.) If anyone besides Mary Ann is interested in the wording of this agreement, I believe I have a copy of the filmed original. It was not recorded until a year after the couple had been married. Whether these two ever lived together is a mystery to me. Why? Because one of the censuses--it must have been the 1850 census--shows them in separate households. This may have been a temporary separation, caused by Nancy's taking care of a family member or two, but.... How do I know so much about Nancy (Oldham) Harris?. Because she is my third great-grandmother [one of several, of course]. Seeking her paternal lineage has led me to research many a county in Virginia--Northern Neck Virginia where there are MANY Oldhams, and hardly any documents to link more than about two generations. (Because Oldham descendants want a nice neat pedigree chart, they link persons without sufficient documentation.) There are so many Oldhams that it makes my head swim, and hardly any of the document examined after several decades reveals the lineage of Nancy's paternal grandfather, who migrated from Caswell Co., NC [formed from Orange Co., NC] to Madison co., KY. Allegedly, Jesse Oldham, her grandfather, brought letters *from home* to Col. Richard Henderson whenever he was in Kentucky, most particularly Boonesborough. I have one single piece of documentation of Jesse Oldham's linkage to Virginia. In 1755, he was with the 2nd Virginia Rangers in the French and Indian War, Capt. John Ashby's company. (Lloyd D. Bockstruck, Virginia's Colonial Soldiers.) Sorry, folks, this was NOT Revolutionary War service--it was British service!!! Documenting all these movements and folks involved in these movements from State to State is a lifelong process. I should live so long. E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

i am interested in the turner in madison and clay co.,ky. my grandmother was ettie turner daughter of stephen/steven turner and martha lakes. my grandmother is buried on blue lick outside of berea ky. i have to go back because i believe steve and martha are at red lick. hope to hear from you. sandy dkuhn@rnetinc.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Panda Bear" <pandachickenmama@gmail.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: [MADKY] John Turner, Littleton West >I would love to hear from anyone researching: > > John Turner, b. 18 Mar 1794 in Madison Co. KY; d. 17 Oct 1872 Ray Co. > MO. or > his father in law Littleton West, b. 20 Nov 1755 Sussex Co. Del; d. > after Aug. 1833, probably Ray Co. MO. > > John Turner married (Sarah?) Jane West ca. 7 Jun 1814 in Madison Co. > KY. The Turners and Littleton West moved to Ray Co. probably soon > after that, as James Jones Turner was born 30 May 1815 in Ray Co. MO. > > Thanks, > Denice W. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

On this Madison site < _http://ukcc.uky.edu/maps/ghm1999/madison.gif_ (http://ukcc.uky.edu/maps/ghm1999/madison.gif) you will find Callaway Creek at Clays Ferry. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Calloway Creek close to Fort Boonesborough Park around Clays Ferry in Madison County. If you have a map of the county, it should be on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Lesa" <grebmot@olypen.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: [MADKY] 1830 Census Eastern & Western Divisions > The 1830 Madison County census had an Eastern and a Western Division. > About where was the dividing line? In which division would Calloway > Creek have been located? (I have found a Calloway Creek up by the > Kentucky River, but am unsure of its course or length.) If someone has > a map that can be sent as an attachment, I would most definitely > appreciate receiving a copy. Of course a textual message would also be > appreciated. Thank you for your help. > Lesa! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry I don't have a scanner, but I would think Calloway Creek would be in the Western division, maybe (who knows what they decided back in 1830). Is close to center of North boundary of County, and looks like it runs only a mile or so south of the KY River, on my modern DeLorme KY Atlas. Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

My observations: I have most all the original filmed records from Augusta County VA, as I do of many Madison Co records; Chalkley's extractions leave out much valuable details in all entries not just the Germans he skipped over. Many people "quote" these extractions as the whole fact and proof, not knowing what they are doing. I use the on-line version for index to research original records, but also consult other indexes. The original territory encompassing Augusta Co VA (and some of its parent, Orange county), went all the way West to the Mississippi River, and North to the edges of Lake Michigan and Lake Erie. Many documents in the old Augusta Co Court Order Books, Circuit Ct records, Probate and Deed records, describe residents and their properties which obviously were later in other states and counties created from Augusta. (See the animated progression maps of VA counties on the Library of VA website, and other publications.) Just recently I had a discussion about an Augusta will written in 1748 by a man whose property was in perhaps 3 other counties by 1800; many using Chalkley's extract of this will have perpetuated grave errors. You may apply this warning to everything in Chalkley's three volumes as published by DAR members ca.1905. West Virginia was not "split off" until 1863 (Civil War), very recently as far as old records go. Still, the online version of "The Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlements of Augusta Co VA" is easy to use as a guide to proper research, as stated in previous post.. Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

I stumbled onto this reference in the Madison Co Deeds, recorded 31 Jul 1837 in Deed Book X, page 361. I don't have that deed book, so can't tell you what this (prenuptial) marriage agreement says. Sounds interesting. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com