Sorry, Norma!! I didn't see your post with all census info before posting the 1880... Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

First wife Rose Whitlock was still alive in 1880 census of Madison Co, with Calvin, their two children, and her mother living with them: copied below... Household: Name - Race - Age - Birthplace - Father's Birthplace-Mother's Birthplace Calvin SOWERS Self M Male W 27 VA Farmer Laborer VA VA Rosie SOWERS Wife M Female W 22 KY Keeping House VA KY Lucy SOWERS Dau S Female W 3 KY VA KY Mary SOWERS Dau S Female W 1 KY VA KY Mary WITLOCK MotherLaw W Female W 49 KY AtHome ----------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: 1880 Census Place Kirksville, Madison, Kentucky You can probably find Calvin's family on 1900, 1910, 1920 census, since he didn't die til 1922. Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Hi, Looks like wife Rosie didn't died before 1876. She is still there on the 1880 census. By 1900 he was married to Adda for 8 years. Hope this helps a little. Norma 1880 Kentucky - Madison - Kirksville - Dst. 77 #264/306 Calvin Sowers, 27, husband, farm laborer, Va/VaVa Rosie, 22, wife, keeping house, KyVa/Ky Lucy, 03, dau, Ky/Va/Ky Mary, 1, Ky/va/Ky Mary Whitlock, 49, mother-in-law, at home, Ky/Va/Tn ************************************ 1900 Kentucky - Madison - Kirksville - Dist. 52 #145/147 (index lists him as Calvir Somes) Calvin Sowers, head, b. Oct. 1852, age 47 m. 8 yrs, Va/Va/Va, farmer Adda, wife, b. May 1863, age 37, m. 8 yrs, 4 ch - 4 liv, Ky/Canada?/Ky Nora, dau, b. July 1893 , age 06, KyVa/Ky Robert L., son, b. May 1896, age 04, Ky/Va/Ky Jessie, dau, b. Mar. 1898, age 02, Ky/Va/Ky Maude, dau, b. Arp, 1900, age 1/12, Ky/Va/Ky 1910 Kentucky = Madison - Tevis- Dist. 78 #44/44 Calvin Sowers, head, age 57, m.2 times, m. 18 yrs, KyKyKy, farmer Adda, wife, age 44, m. 1x, 18 yrs, 6 ch - 4 liv, KyKyKy Emer F., dau, age 28, KyKyKy, teacher, public school Nora, dau, age 16, KyKyKy Robt. L., son, age 13, KyKyKy Jessie D., dau, age 12, KyKyKy Maud, dau, age 09, KyKyky Kentucky Marriages, 1851-1900 Name: CALVIN J. SOWERS Spouse: ROSA BELLE WHITLOCK Marriage Date: 7 Feb 1876 County: Madison State: KY At 10:26 AM 2/26/2008 -0600, you wrote: >would like to find obit and/or death date for the following: Calvin J. >Sowers d. 28 Oct 1922; wife 1. Adeline unk d. 27 Jan 1936 and wife 2. >Rosa Belle Whitlock b. 1848 KY and died sometime before 1876. They lived >in the Kirksville and Greensburgh Twps, Madison Co., KY Any help with these >would be apprciated. I have having trouble trying to figure out which >children belonged to which wife. > >John Sowers in Lawrence, KS >researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related >families. >sowgenealogy@sunflower.com > > >-- >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >It has removed 88 spam emails to date. >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Calvin J.Sowers married Rosa Bell Whitlock age 20 on Feb.7,1876.He was 25.She was the daughter of Mary Whitlock. So if she died as you say in 1876 it must have been in childbirth. Calvin and Addie are buried Gilead cemetery ,but I find no marriage for him to Addie in Madison County in 1877 to 1899. Will look at some other refrences to see what I can find.. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <sowgenealogy@sunflower.com> To: <MADKY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:26 AM Subject: [MADKY] Calvin J. Sowers > would like to find obit and/or death date for the following: Calvin J. > Sowers d. 28 Oct 1922; wife 1. Adeline unk d. 27 Jan 1936 and wife 2. > Rosa Belle Whitlock b. 1848 KY and died sometime before 1876. They lived > in the Kirksville and Greensburgh Twps, Madison Co., KY Any help with > these > would be apprciated. I have having trouble trying to figure out which > children belonged to which wife. > > John Sowers in Lawrence, KS > researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related > families. > sowgenealogy@sunflower.com > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 88 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

would like to find obit and/or death date for the following: Calvin J. Sowers d. 28 Oct 1922; wife 1. Adeline unk d. 27 Jan 1936 and wife 2. Rosa Belle Whitlock b. 1848 KY and died sometime before 1876. They lived in the Kirksville and Greensburgh Twps, Madison Co., KY Any help with these would be apprciated. I have having trouble trying to figure out which children belonged to which wife. John Sowers in Lawrence, KS researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related families. sowgenealogy@sunflower.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 88 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Thanks, E.W. The James Anderson, deputy surveyor 1781-1786, is my GGGGGF. In the Madison Court Order books, he goes on to qualify for County Surveyor, and holds that position for many years. His surveyor's instruments are listed in the inventory of his personal estate after his death in 1831. I've wondered who has them now!! Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

For those of you who suspect your EARLY ancestors in Kentucky may have been surveyors or deputy surveyors, you may want to subscribe to KYResearch by Sandi Gorin. (She apparently is a webmistress of another website--at least.) I copied this info from her website. Rootsweb will wrap some punctuation around the URLs, so remove the *wrappings* before pasting into your search blank. Otherwise, write an e-mail to Sandi Gorin directly. E.W.Wallace Colonel Sandi Gorin: sgorin@glasgow-ky.com KYBIOGRAPHIES Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybiographies KYRESEARCH Archives:http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kyresearch **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

2-10-2008: From Richmond, Indiana ""Pal-Item" Rita Madden King, 73, whose brother lives in Richmond, died Monday, Feb. 4, 2008, in Florida. Born Oct. 12, 1934, in Madison County, Ky., to Emmitt and Nora Cox Madden, she and her husband owned a plastics manufacturing company. Survivors include her husband, C.B. King; children, Anthony, Anita, Vickie and Cynthia; brothers, Hugh, Fred and Denver Madden. A service was conducted at 1 p.m. Saturday at Peytontown Baptist Church, Richmond, Ky. Combs, Parsons & Collins Funeral Home, Richmond, Ky., handled arrangements. Memorials may be made to Hospice Care Plus, 210 St. George St., Richmond, KY 40475.

Thanks for looking, Joe. William had a sister named Ann or Anna who married Wyatt Shankle in 1843 in Henry Co. Tenn. Trying to find their parents.

The 1860 Henry County Ky. Census says he was born in Ky.. I am not related to any one of them,was just trying to help out. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ejscott@suddenlink.net> To: <MADKY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: [MADKY] Wainscott > Looking for parents of William C Wainscott, b. 1823 in Madison or Simpson > co. Ky. He married Martha Wimberly in 1843 in Henry Co. Tenn. Not sure > that he was borned in either co. Thanks E J > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for parents of William C Wainscott, b. 1823 in Madison or Simpson co. Ky. He married Martha Wimberly in 1843 in Henry Co. Tenn. Not sure that he was borned in either co. Thanks E J

W.B. (Wallace) HUNTER md Lizzie SMITH on 30 Mar 1892 in Madison Co, KY. Lizzie HUNTER died 10 Feb 1936 wife of Wallace Hunter and her parents are listed as Humphrey Asbill and Elizabeth Kelley. I find a marriage of Maranda E. AZBELL to Waller T. SMITH on 29 Jan 1891 in Madison Co with Humphrey AZBELL as bondsman. I believe this is Lizzie. Is anyone able to lay eyes on the marriage record of Lizzie to W>B> Hunter at Madison Co courthouse to see if shows Lizzie married previously? Thanks in advance. Rod Carpenter

There is James Black. There is James John, Thomas and Joseph Kennedy. Mina ----- Original Message ----- From: <r1946at@aol.com> To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: [MADKY] 1787 Virginia census look up > > Could you?please do a look up for me in the 1787 census-tax list.? The > names I'd like to know about are Trap(p), Messick, Kennedy(Canaday), > Black?and Lanham.? Any help will be most appreciated. > > Bob Trapp > Fairfield, CA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: madky-request@rootsweb.com > To: madky@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:00 am > Subject: MADKY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 32 > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The 1787 Census of Virginia (Mina Chittum) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:03:42 -0600 > From: "Mina Chittum" <mmchittum@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > To: <madky@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003e01c869c4$8a56ccf0$5f8e8846@yourxhtr8hvc4p> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I do not see Murphy on the Madison Co [ Ky ]1787 Virginia Tax List. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <kyposh@aol.com> > To: <mafarr28@peoplepc.com>; <madky@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > > >> >> I would sure like to know if my Murphys were on that tax list: >> >> >> >> John >> Lucy >> >> Elhannon (spelling?) >> Edith >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: M. A. Farrell <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> >> To: dwsbgs@centurytel.net; Madison List <madky@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 9:31 pm >> Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia >> >> >> >> >> Bud, I don't know which tax records burned in 1812, but the lists for >> Madison, >> Fayette, Jessamine exist thru 1830 I know of - I have them on microfilm >> (all but >> Madison, which I looked at in Richmond but don't have here). I located >> my >> people on these early lists in those 3 counties. >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> PeoplePC Online >> A better way to Internet >> http://www.peoplepc.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MADKY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of >> the message >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - >> http://webmail.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MADKY list administrator, send an email to > MADKY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MADKY mailing list, send an email to > MADKY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MADKY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 32 > ************************************ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Kentucky researchers - For those who are not near a library which has the three volume set called The 1787 Census of Virginia by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love, let me suggest the research method. Keep in mind that the third volume is the index for the preceding two volumes.: On the Family History Library website (_www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) ) are some Forms. Click on that word which is on the right of the opening screen. There are several drop-down menus--look on the right of the next screen. Choose *Sort by Title* Click on the letter R - the title you are looking for will be the first on the list - Request for Photocopy [which includes books and other material] Print out that form and get out your check book. The instructions are on the form. Follow them carefully. You can request that the Library in Salt Lake City send you photocopies of the surnames in the INDEX [not on the lists, just yet] which surnames you desire. (All you will get are the copies of the index pages.) You had better not try this with a REALLY common name, or you will be sending off and receiving LOTS of copies, which may be of interest, but it will blow your monthly budget for Starbucks coffee!!! Now, you will note the page numbers on which that surname appears. Then you again print out the same form but with a different request--for the particular pages in which you are interested. Again, get out your check book. A dedicated genealogist whom I know says she frequently asks for photocopies of index pages of books in which she is interested, and then requests the actual pages. She says the library also includes, at no cost, the title page of the book. You need this title page for citing your sources--a must for real genealogists!!! But be sure to check University and college library catalogs in your neighborhood. Although many such institutions don't particularly cater to genealogists, there are some real gems in some of those University shelves. For example, I was looking for a book of court records [abstracts] of a certain North Carolina county, which book had been compiled by a genealogist. Where it was shelved? In the Law Library of a prestigious California University!!!! I am told by a librarian that frequently university and college libraries will interlibrary loan their books. So ask your public librarian whether they will request interlibrary loan. (Some will NOT, unfortunately, but it is much easier with the internet!) Also, check the catalog of your State library. Some of them have wonderful collections of genealogical works. Pass this word along to other Kentucky websites. (For the uninformed--this so-called census includes the personal property tax lists for nearly every county in Virginia, including the counties which later became Kentucky counties--and West Virginia counties.). These are personal property tax lists--not land tax lists!!! E.W.Wallace who reviews the 1787 Census of Virginia again and again but I don't own it--it is at a Library which I use **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Could you?please do a look up for me in the 1787 census-tax list.? The names I'd like to know about are Trap(p), Messick, Kennedy(Canaday), Black?and Lanham.? Any help will be most appreciated. Bob Trapp Fairfield, CA -----Original Message----- From: madky-request@rootsweb.com To: madky@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:00 am Subject: MADKY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 32 Today's Topics: 1. Re: The 1787 Census of Virginia (Mina Chittum) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:03:42 -0600 From: "Mina Chittum" <mmchittum@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia To: <madky@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003e01c869c4$8a56ccf0$5f8e8846@yourxhtr8hvc4p> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I do not see Murphy on the Madison Co [ Ky ]1787 Virginia Tax List. ----- Original Message ----- From: <kyposh@aol.com> To: <mafarr28@peoplepc.com>; <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > > I would sure like to know if my Murphys were on that tax list: > > > > John > Lucy > > Elhannon (spelling?) > Edith > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. A. Farrell <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> > To: dwsbgs@centurytel.net; Madison List <madky@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 9:31 pm > Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > > > > > Bud, I don't know which tax records burned in 1812, but the lists for > Madison, > Fayette, Jessamine exist thru 1830 I know of - I have them on microfilm > (all but > Madison, which I looked at in Richmond but don't have here). I located my > people on these early lists in those 3 counties. > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the MADKY list administrator, send an email to MADKY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the MADKY mailing list, send an email to MADKY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of MADKY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 32 ************************************ ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

I do not see Murphy on the Madison Co [ Ky ]1787 Virginia Tax List. ----- Original Message ----- From: <kyposh@aol.com> To: <mafarr28@peoplepc.com>; <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > > I would sure like to know if my Murphys were on that tax list: > > > > John > Lucy > > Elhannon (spelling?) > Edith > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. A. Farrell <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> > To: dwsbgs@centurytel.net; Madison List <madky@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 9:31 pm > Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > > > > > Bud, I don't know which tax records burned in 1812, but the lists for > Madison, > Fayette, Jessamine exist thru 1830 I know of - I have them on microfilm > (all but > Madison, which I looked at in Richmond but don't have here). I located my > people on these early lists in those 3 counties. > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

That map I liked on Madison Co. Ky waterways has Jackie Couture as author. Bud. -----Original Message-----

Besides the early land grants in Kentucky, compiled by Jillson, in books with VERY SMALL print, I have found the transcriptions of Michael L. Cook and his wife Bettie C. Cook of Evansville, IN of Kentucky court records, etc. to be helpful in locating when and where our *missing* ancestors may have been. (Some years ago Family Tree Maker issued a CD #650 of *Land Records: Kentucky, 1774-1924* which includes several of Jillson's books plus some taxpayer lists. I do not remember the counties which had the tax lists. The ISBN for the CD 1-57944-182-3. I hope you can find it still on the market. It is very searchable.) You can find a list of these books by doing an author search on the Family HIstory Library Catalog at _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) Be sure to use Michael L. Cook's middle initial. If you cannot find Michael Cook's books in your favorite genealogical library, get together with your local reference librarian and see what you can work out for Interlibrary Loan -- ILL for those who know the lingo!!! I used to live in a rural community, and, even though I knew a good many books could be borrowed from a branch of my State library, the librarian tried to persuade me to use some other library. This was before the days of the internet. I think she was NOT a trained librarian, but she was in charge of ILL! (I hope you have better luck!) E.W.Wallace **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

I have just now looked at the ultimate source, "Master Index of VA Surveys and grants [in District of KY] 1774-1791", published by Ky Historical Society. Gerald, if you are listening, I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL JUST NOW that William Young had made 2 entries surveyed 1781, on NE Branch of Gilberts Creek!! This is the same area of my John Anderson's first entry. One of William Young's entries of 400 ac went to grant in 1783; the other was "caveated" (denied for interferrence with another's entry) as was my John Anderson's!! He must have purchased his land on Silver Creek, or made a later entry there as my John did, which was granted. I just love the stories that land documents tell. In any event, William Young was in old Lincoln Co in 1787 and should be on the tax list. Mary Alice ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

I did not find any Young listed in the 1787 tax kuist of Madison Co Ky. Mina ----- Original Message ----- From: <kyposh@aol.com> To: <mafarr28@peoplepc.com>; <madky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > > I would sure like to know if my Murphys were on that tax list: > > > > John > Lucy > > Elhannon (spelling?) > Edith > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. A. Farrell <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> > To: dwsbgs@centurytel.net; Madison List <madky@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 9:31 pm > Subject: Re: [MADKY] The 1787 Census of Virginia > > > > > Bud, I don't know which tax records burned in 1812, but the lists for > Madison, > Fayette, Jessamine exist thru 1830 I know of - I have them on microfilm > (all but > Madison, which I looked at in Richmond but don't have here). I located my > people on these early lists in those 3 counties. > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MADKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message