Searching for information on Jackson R. Parsons, son of Mary A. Parsons Payne. He was born ca. 1866 in Lee Co, VA. He is in the 1870 and 1880 Lee Co. censuses with Mother and siblings, listed as Jackson R. Payne. In 1900, he is listed in the Harlan Co. census as Riley J. Parsons, married to Nancy A. with children and Mom in the household. In 1910, he is in Madison Co, KY with wife, children and Mom. Searching for Jackson's Dad and any other pertinent info. (Mary Payne was widowed before 1860 and it does not appear that she remarried.) ED CRESS: Do you have anything on Jackson R. or Riley J. ...either Payne or Parsons in your records? This is nearly like my William Robert Parsons (originally Payne) that you have tried to help me with. They are at least half brothers, maybe same father too. Appreciate any help anyone can provide. Thanks, Barb

In a message dated 3/20/2004 1:01:01 PM Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Like any good > researcher trying to stretch her document budget I am trying to keep from > calling. I appreciate any information and if they take personal checks or > require a photocopy of your driver's license. I buy phone cards at Sam's and the cost is almost nothing.. Quote me if I am wrong folks, but it seems like they are about 2.9 cents per minute.. and NO connecting fee.. I use them all the time for genealogy purposes.. Cheers! Ellie S.

If you still have trouble getting your Madison County Marriage Records, this is what I would suggest. I know that Kentucky Department of Library and Archives will do requests for a small fee and you might check the Crabbe Library at Eastern KY, Richmond. I have always had good experiences with both places. You will get a copy of the original that has been microfilmed. I am on a soapbox here but KY does not or will not make room in their courthouses budgets to pay anyone to do genealogical research. We all have to volunteer on the kindness of volunteers and if one gets sick or quits..............it just does not get done! I have a friend who does this at the Bourbon County Courthouse and she really gets overwhelmed with requests. Last summer I volunteered at the John Fox, JR Library in Bourbon and the requests kept me busy all summer! Kellie

The Kentucky Legislature is getting ready to drastically limit access to Kentucky vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. (MILITARY RECORDS are also being limited but I do not know which bill is involved.) You can find the entire bill at: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but more recent death certificates will only be available to: 1. the decedent's widow or widower, 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older 3. parent 4. grandparent 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate This means that genealogists can no longer order great-uncle Jasper's death certificate to see his parents' names. Birth records will be have limited access while the person is living but will still be public record after 100 years. Divorce and marriage records will be closed for 70 years. We are very late in the process. Jan 6-introduced in House; to Health and Welfare (H) Jan 15-posted in committee Jan 29-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Jan 30-2nd reading, to Rules; floor amendment (1) filed to Committee Substitute Feb 2-posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Tuesday, February 3, 2004 Feb 10-3rd reading, passed 94-2 with Committee Substitute, floor amendment (1) Feb 11-received in Senate Feb 17-to State and Local Government (S) Mar 16-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Mar 17-2nd reading, to Rules THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If it passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature into law. Call and email your senator and let him know that you want HB 100 to fail. Time is critical! Do it by Monday, at the latest. You can find your Senator at http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm Telephone: 502-564-8100 FAX : 502-564-6543 Postal address: 700 Capitol Avenue, Frankfort, KY 40601 Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others.

Thank you all for such a wonderful response! I have actually gone to other mailing lists with this question before and did not receive one reply not even the list manager answered. I will try the six dollars and hope for the best but if anyone recently received their documents upon request from the actual clerks and know the price to be different could you please post it to the mailing list. Again a huge thank you for all of you who took time from your very busy schedules to show a stranger kindness. Bushy Hartman Berkeley County Coordinator South Carolina

Since I sent my reply to Bushy several people have contacted me to tell me that Mr. Green(e) is a volunteer at the Courthouse and a very knowledgeable person concerning Madison County history. I have been told that he was in an accident recently which explains the problems I had with my correspondence with him. I wish him a speedy recovery. George At 03:22 PM 3/19/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Bushy, > >I did not have a very good experience trying to obtain a marriage record >from the courthouse. I sent a check for $10 with a description of what I >was looking for and I didn't receive a reply. After several months I >called and was directed to a David Green. He told me that he sent the >money back with a letter telling me how much the it would cost to get the >record. I told him I never received his letter or check. The check has >not been cashed. He told me would email me the information. I sent him >an email to make sure he had the correct email address. I never received >a reply from him. I am not sure whether Mr. Green is a county employee or >a private researcher. I was told that he is or had been an officer in the >local historical society. > >Hope you have better luck. > >George Thurman > >At 10:45 AM 3/19/2004 -0500, you wrote: >>Hello all, >>I am trying to find out how much a marriage record cost if I send to the >>County Clerk. I tried the web site http://vitalrec.com/index.html >>But they do not have cost just the address and phone number. Like any good >>researcher trying to stretch her document budget I am trying to keep from >>calling. I appreciate any information and if they take personal checks or >>require a photocopy of your driver's license. >> >>Thanks so much >>Bushy Hartman >> >> >> >> >>==== MADKY Mailing List ==== >>To unsubscribe, send the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) as the >>only text in the body of a message to [email protected] (mail >>mode) or [email protected] (digest mode). > > >==== MADKY Mailing List ==== >Stuck on one of your Madison Co. ancestors? Can't get any help if you >don't post! Post today! >

Greetings List; I am a newbie to this list and desparately searching for John CLOYD who married two BOATMAN sisters. We have not been able to find much on John CLOYD as we did find him listed in the 1850 Parke Co IN census and he moved to Champaign Co IL afterwards.   John's first wife, Susanna BOATMAN was born 1806 Jessamine Co Kentucky died 1828 Parke Co Indiana. John's second wife, Jane (Kelcin) KELSON was born in Lincoln Co KY. John's third wife, Mary Ann (widow of Thomas Wright) BOATMAN was born Bet. 1808 - 1810 Jessamine Co Kentucky died September 09, 1871 Champaign Co Illinois married August 22, 1841 Parke Co Indiana. The BOATMAN sisters were daughters of John BOATMAN, Snr. and Elizabeth HUNTER. Thank you in advance from a windy and mild Nebraska. Charlene and Family Richardson Co NE May you always walk in sunshine.   May you never want for more. May Irish angels rest their wings right beside your door. "Is gaire cabhair Dé ná an doras" (Irish: God's help is nearer than your door)

Hi, I went to vitalrec.com, clicked on the state link to Kentucky, and found the prices for the records. It says it costs $6.00 for a copy of a marriage record. Janice Keeter [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bushy Hartman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: [MADKY-L] Cost of a marriage record from Madison Co., Ky uncertified. > Hello all, > I am trying to find out how much a marriage record cost if I send to the > County Clerk. I tried the web site http://vitalrec.com/index.html > But they do not have cost just the address and phone number. Like any good > researcher trying to stretch her document budget I am trying to keep from > calling. I appreciate any information and if they take personal checks or > require a photocopy of your driver's license. > > Thanks so much > Bushy Hartman > > > > > ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) as the only text in the body of a message to [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest mode).

Oops! I had the wrong price. Please note the correct information below. Sharon Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $45 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $50 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

Bushy, I did not have a very good experience trying to obtain a marriage record from the courthouse. I sent a check for $10 with a description of what I was looking for and I didn't receive a reply. After several months I called and was directed to a David Green. He told me that he sent the money back with a letter telling me how much the it would cost to get the record. I told him I never received his letter or check. The check has not been cashed. He told me would email me the information. I sent him an email to make sure he had the correct email address. I never received a reply from him. I am not sure whether Mr. Green is a county employee or a private researcher. I was told that he is or had been an officer in the local historical society. Hope you have better luck. George Thurman At 10:45 AM 3/19/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Hello all, >I am trying to find out how much a marriage record cost if I send to the >County Clerk. I tried the web site http://vitalrec.com/index.html >But they do not have cost just the address and phone number. Like any good >researcher trying to stretch her document budget I am trying to keep from >calling. I appreciate any information and if they take personal checks or >require a photocopy of your driver's license. > >Thanks so much >Bushy Hartman > > > > >==== MADKY Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) as the >only text in the body of a message to [email protected] (mail >mode) or [email protected] (digest mode).

Me again, Would anyone have a current phone number I can call? I tried the two posted on the web (1-606-624-4703)and both are no longer in service. Thanks so much Bushy Hartman

Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $40 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $45 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

Hello all, I am trying to find out how much a marriage record cost if I send to the County Clerk. I tried the web site http://vitalrec.com/index.html But they do not have cost just the address and phone number. Like any good researcher trying to stretch her document budget I am trying to keep from calling. I appreciate any information and if they take personal checks or require a photocopy of your driver's license. Thanks so much Bushy Hartman

Welcome to the list Kathryn. Hope we may assist you! Kellie

Hello, I am new to the list and new to genealogy-searching in the county. My grandparents(below) were married May,1904, in Waco, Ky: Robert Elkin Miller, born about 1870 in KY or MO. died in Florida Martha(Mattie) Rupard, born about 1870 very probably in KY died about 1926 in Madison Co. dau.of Laban(b.about 1836) and Elizabeth Rupard(b.about 1840) The couple lived in the County (towns of Union City, McCreary, ?) after their marriage until the 1920's. What would be the best source for vital records for that time period? Would be grateful for any guidance. Kind regards, Kathryn in Colorado

New e-mail address: [email protected] Barbara Clay Pasch Researching 2 lines of Smiths, 3 lines of Penningtons, Bailey, Creech, Parsons, Baldock, Wallace, etc. in SW VA, SE KY, and Central KY.

Since it seems that a 1800 census does not exist for Kentucky, one would have to use a substitute. Here is a suggestion: This info is taken from www.familysearch.org - a Place search for Kentucky. Click down to census--1800. This cataloged book has been filmed. If you are near an LDS family history center, you could borrow this film--for a small fee, for a short time--from the family History Library in Salt Lake City. Otherwise, find the exact title, ISBN etc on the URL cited above and ask your public librarian to help you interlibrary the book. TLC Genealogy of Miami Beach, which seems to be no longer in business, some years compiled and published a book called the 1795 Census of Kentucky. It is helpful in locating males who were in the then-existent counties of Kentucky. You might see if you can interlibrary loan the book--see your public librarian about ILL. Happy hunting. E.W.Wallace Title Second census of Kentucky : a privately compiled and published enumeration of tax payers appearing in the 79 manuscript volumes extant of tax lists of the 42 counties of Kentucky in existance in 1800 Authors Clift, Garrett Glenn , 1909- (Main Author) Note Location Film Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1965. on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm. FHL US/CAN Film 390838

Looking for information on the Cruse family who lived in Madison in the early 1900's. Matt Cruse was married to Lucy Long His sister Mag Cruse was married to Allie Long I'd like to find the name of their Mother and Father. Does anyone have access to Richmond Cemetery Records? or the phone # ? They had 3 either full or half brothers.......William, James, Jack. William is my ggrandfather. Thanks Terri Sloan

The earliest federal KY census that I have seen is for 1810. There are two books available that are called "The First Census of Kentucky" (1790) and "The Second Census of Kentucky" (1800), but they are really compiled from tax lists or military lists. There is also a book called "The Cornstalk Militia of Kentucky" which is a listing of able-bodied men in 1790 and 1791. Look for these books at any large library. In lieu of census, you should look for early tax lists. While they don't list, or even tally, the number of family members, at least they do list head of household. The ones for Madison County are available at the LDS library. (You can borrow the film at any branch library.) They are also available at the Allen County Library in Fort Wayne, IN.

The first census was taken in 1790 in the U. S. These records are available in most genealogy libraries. I do not know if they are available online. Don L. Fox [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [MADKY-L] Question about Census > If you go to Census-online.com which is free, there is one census for 1800 for Pendleton Co. > > Ancestry.com does not have anything for 1800 for KY > Donna Bray > [email protected] > > > > > ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== > Madison Co. KYGenWeb Page - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymadiso/madison.html > > >