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    1. THANK YOU!!
    2. Suzanne T. Wills
    3. Hi All, You have all been so helpful to this one who is practically a newbie. Been doing this for many years, but with hubby's name (Wills) there were so many ahead of me that I didn't have to do much. Have been stumped with my maiden name for years and finally feel I'm getting somewhere! Special thanks to G.T. He found my cemetery!! I'm so excited, I'm in tears! Don't know yet what my next step is, but you all are sure to find out about it, when I figure it out. <grin> Traci

    07/20/2005 05:14:32
    1. Re: [MADKY-L] Looking for a cemetery
    2. Batha Karr
    3. My mother-in-law remembered this about her mother and the day she died. Thelma remembers walking behind the wagon that carried her mother to the grave. She said it was a long walk for a little girl and up a long steep hill on the cold rainy day. Later on Wilma (daughter) and Thelma did search for the cemetery and found Redhill Cemetery between Irvine and Richmond and indeed it was on top of a hill. This might be the one. Hope ypu find what you are looking for. Batha Karr Karr, Moberly, Snowden, Oldham, Wilmore Madison County, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne T. Wills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: [MADKY-L] Looking for a cemetery > Hi All, > > I am desperately seeking a cemetery near Berea or Paint Lick on a hill. > I've searched www.findagrave.com and it must not be listed because I am > without doubt that my gr. grandmother Annette Kathleen Tincher Smith and > my > gr. grandfather Ballard Gatliff Smith are buried there along with at least > a > few other of our Smith relations. I am just beginning my research on my > dad's line (smith) and am already frustrated. Was just in Berea last week > from FL and walked the Berea Cemetery and couldn't find them there. My > Mom > and Dad, Aunts and Uncles can only remember a country road, a fairly small > cemetery and a hill. :-) > > Anyone have any ideas whatsoever?? > > Thanks! > > Traci (smith) Wills > > > > ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== > Stuck on one of your Madison Co. ancestors? Can't get any help if you > don't post! Post today! > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.14/48 - Release Date: 7/13/2005 > >

    07/20/2005 05:09:01
    1. Traveling Church
    2. I cut and pasted this from a message on the Culpeper Co. Virginia rootsweb. It may be of interest to some readers. E.W.Wallace http://singletonfamily.org/ For those of you who also have Singleton descendants from members of the Separatist Baptist Traveling Church of Upper Spotsylvania CO. you might find useful information and contacts by using the above listed web site. You will also find information on the USGENWEB site of Scott, CO, Kentucky. This site is particularly helpful to those who are descended from Craigs and Hawkins. EMelton

    07/19/2005 06:05:04
    1. Looking for a cemetery
    2. Suzanne T. Wills
    3. Hi All, I am desperately seeking a cemetery near Berea or Paint Lick on a hill. I've searched www.findagrave.com and it must not be listed because I am without doubt that my gr. grandmother Annette Kathleen Tincher Smith and my gr. grandfather Ballard Gatliff Smith are buried there along with at least a few other of our Smith relations. I am just beginning my research on my dad's line (smith) and am already frustrated. Was just in Berea last week from FL and walked the Berea Cemetery and couldn't find them there. My Mom and Dad, Aunts and Uncles can only remember a country road, a fairly small cemetery and a hill. :-) Anyone have any ideas whatsoever?? Thanks! Traci (smith) Wills

    07/19/2005 03:33:38
    1. Mary Anna Parsons Payne, b. Aug 1833
    2. Barb Pasch
    3. -From: Barb Pasch<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Mary Anna Parsons Payne, b. Aug 1833 I am searching for a date of death, obit, etc. for Mary Anna Parsons Payne, b. Aug. 1833, dau. of Joel Parsons and Hannah Dare. She married Alexander Payne in Lee Co., VA, live in Lee Co., Harlan Co., KY (1900 census), and moved with her son, Jackson Riley Parsons, & family to Madison Co., KY (Berea) between 1900 and 1910. I believe she died soon after the 1910 census. Can anyone help? Thank you in advance, Barbara Clay Pasch

    07/19/2005 01:11:07
    1. James Harris of Madison Co., KY - Same Person as One in Albemarle Co., VA?
    2. Dear Subscribers, Perhaps some of you can help me sort out whether the James Harrises in some of the following records are the same person, or are they different persons? The birthdate given for James Harris of Madison Co. may be disputed. E.W.Wallace, a descendant of Overton Harris, who died testate, Madison Co., KY 1827 JAMES HARRIS II. James Harris of Madison Co., KY is the son of Christopher Harris and Agnes McCord. His birthdate of 1770, apparently unconfirmed, is taken from DAR application 598925. Those of his siblings and most of the marriages are given, indicating the applicant MAY have used a Bible record. A James Harris appears on the Albemarle Co. 1786 Personal Property Tax, Tax List A, District of Thomas Garth, Commissioner. However, if the 1770 birthdate provided by Wm. A. LaBach, of Lexington, KY, a descendant of the Harris family, is correct, then he was young to have so much property. This may be another James Harris. In fact, the James Harris of Albemarle Co. is more probably a son-in-law of Robert Harris (Major) of Albemarle and Louisa Cos., VA and thus a brother-in-law of the older Christopher Harris, who also appears on the 1787 tax list of Albemarle Co. James self 1-6-8-9-21 (Source: Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florene Speakman Love, THE 1787 CENSUS OF VIRGINIA [Springfield, VA: Genealogical Books in Print, 198?, LAFHC 975.5 X2s 1787, V. 2) According to William LaBach, James was married to Susannah Gass and he died 1798. The marriage listed in Vockery & Vockery is as follows: Harris, James & Goss Susanna, 1 Dec 1790 (date of bond); James Goss, bondsman; return 2 Dec 1790. Is this another James Harris? Madison Co., DB A-80 [abstracted] 13 Apr 1788 Green Clay of Madison Co., VA to James Harris 11 thousand wt neet inspected crop tobacco in good cash 3,000 of which to be paid before the 25th day of December 12 months granted... James Harris... 177 acres... Flanders Callaway sett....Richard Dunstalls ln - ln of James Berry /s/ Green Clay wit: Edward Durbin, Joseph Durbin, Richard Fowler (LDS film 183,283) Madison Co. DB D-329, 29 Aug 1797 James Harris to John Mullins both of Albemarle Co. [VA] for 126 pds a parcel lying in the State of Kentucky in Madison Co. adj. the lands of James Berry, Mr. Turner and Jesse Nowling, which said tract of land was deeded to the said James Harris by Green Clay [of same county] for 175 acs. more or less the whole of the above-mentioned land is comprised in the deeds except 50 acs. sold prior to this indenture to the above named Jesse Noland [or Nathan?] to be taken of that eastward [?] of said land sold to John Mullins, Jun. James Harris (L.S.) In presents of Wm. Karr, Danl Miller John Rodes, Junr (FHL film 183,285) The relationship of James Harris to Agnes [McCord] Harris and the deceased Christopher Harris the elder cannot be easily be deduced from this deed of 1798. It is unknown whether this Christopher's son James Harris, or whether it may be his brother-in-law, James Harris: Apr Court 1796, Albemarle Co., pp. 72-73 [On margin: Harris's executors to Harris, Deed 499 1/2 acres. Delivered to James Harris per Order 22 February 1798] This Indenture made this seventh day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety five; Between Agness Harris, John Sapington and John Harris, Executors of Christopher Harris, of the one part and James Harris of the other part; Witnesseth that Agness Harris, John Sapington and John Harris, Executors of Christopher Harris, in consideration of the sum of two hundred pounds current money of Virginia to them in hand paid the receipt whereof they do hereby acknowledge have bargained and sold unto James Harris one certain tract of land containing four hundred and ninety nine and one half acres laying in the County of Albemarle on both sides of Moreman's River, and bounded; Begining on a forked Chesnut in B. Ellis's line, thence South twelve degrees East sixty poles to pointers, thence South eighty five degrees West one hundred poles to a Chesnut on a Hill side, thence South six degrees West eighty poles to pointers, thence North eighty four degrees West sixty poles to pointers, thence South thirty three degrees West forty poles to a forked Chesnut, thence South nine degrees West seventy two poles to a Chesnut, thence South sixty four degrees East fifty five poles to a dead Chesnut, thence South thirty one degrees East eighty six poles to a Spanish Oak, thence South sixty one degrees East eighty eight poles to a stooping Locust, thence North twenty nine degrees East one hundred and twenty four poles to a Chesnut, thence North seventy eight degrees West eighty nine poles to a Chesnut Oak, thence North eighty six degrees East one hundred and sixteen poles to a Chesnut, thence North thirty degrees East one hundred and ninety four poles to pointers, thence North eighty five degrees West one hundred and ten poles to a Chesnut, thence South fifty four degrees East eigty nine poles to a Chesnut Oak, thence North eighty one degrees East fifty one poles to a Spanish Oak thence North thirteen degrees West ten poles to a pile of Stone in James Harris's line, thence with the said line North eighty degrees West twenty three poles to a Spanish Oak and gutt of the River, thence North sixteen degrees West twenty six poles crossing Island and River to Hickory saplins, thence North forty five degrees West forty four poles to pointers, thence South seventh one degrees West twenty two poles crossing the River to the mouth of a Creek, thence as the Creek meanders to the begining together with all appurtenances, To have and to hold the tract of land with its appurtenances unto James Harris and his heirs and Agness Harris, John Sapington and John Harris as Executors of Christopher Harris do covenant with James Harris that they the parcel of land with appurtenances will forever warrant and defend, In Witness whereof we have hereunto set our hands and seals the day and year above written. Signed sealed and delivered in presence of Bernard Brown, ] as to Agness Harris Thomas Grubbs ] John Harris John Sappington James Harris ]as to John John Harris Benjamin Porter At Albemarle December Court 1795 This Indenture was proved as to John Harris by the Oaths of Bernard Brown and Thomas Grubbs, two of the witnesses thereto, And at January Court 1796, was further proved as to JOHN by the Oath of James Harris, a third witness thereto, And at April Court 1796, was fully proved as to John Harris and ordered to be recorded Teste J. Carr, D.C.A.C. Another James Harris? Later, it appears James Harris was present in Madison Co. He was not only an agent of Edward Harris of the town of Newbern in the State of North Carolina, a deed executed 3 Sept 1798, but also he was an a witness to the deed. (DB D-570, film FHL 183,285) It is unknown whether there was a blood relationship between Edward Harris of Newbern, NC and James Harris of Madison Co., KY; however, Edward Harris is not named in the will of Christopher Harris I of Madison Co. Madison Co. KY Will Bk A-191: Appraisal of estate of James Harris, decd. 20 Dec 1798. Appraisers: John Miller, Robert Rodes, Arch'd Curle. 1 Jan 1799 ordered recorded. (Anna Joy Hubble, ABSTRACTS OF MADISON COUNTY KENTUCKY WILL BOOK "A" [Whitefish, MT: Published by author, 1983])

    07/18/2005 01:59:04
    1. Joh Halley and Other Halleys in Early Madison Co. KY
    2. If there is a more permanent place on which to post messages, please forward (or cut and paste) this information which may help some researcher in the future. It is by no means complete. E.W.Wallace, submitter Added to Jul 2005 JOHN HALLEY. He is reported to have married Elizabeth Simpson, whose relationship to Richard Simpson of Caswell Co. NC is unknown as of July 2005. They probably were originally of Fairfax Co., VA. He owned several pieces of property in Madison Co., KY before 1806, notably on Otter Creek. Madison Co. KY DB A-3 28 Feb 1787 Jacob Stearns & Elizabeth his wife of Madison Co. & State of Virginia to John Halley of same... 100 pds....400 A more or less by survey bearing date the 11th day of February 1783.. on Otter Creek about three miles from Boonesborough. (LDS film 183,283) He was the grantor of several tracts purchased in 1806 by the Oldham family, Jesse Sr. and Jesse's son, Richard (R/M) Oldham. Madison Co., KY DB F-177: 11 Feb 1806 John Halley of Madison Co., KY & Jesse Oldham Senior of same ... 190 pds. ... 145 acres, part of a 1611 acre survey pattented in the name of John Halley & part of a survey patented in the name of Jacob Starnes (?) lying on Otter Creek, Madison Co. ... Samuel Burton's NE corner ... to Jacob Starnes's corner. John Halley (L.S.) Certified by Will Irvine CC [county clerk] 26th day of July 1806 (LDS film 183,287) Madison Co., KY DB F-284, 1 May 1806 John Halley of Madison Co., KY to Richard Oldham of same for 300 pds. 283 A. of land reserving to himself the said John Halley during his natural life the privilege and use of the water & watercourses & the privilege of cutting or digging a canal or race to convey water to water works through any part of said claim & two acres of land within the bounds of said claim to be laid of[f] as said Halley shall think best for the purpose of building mills or other water works on and for the use of same and timber sufficient for building mills and dams on the same. The timber to be taken of said Oldham claim and the said Halley reserves to himself and his heirs the use and privilege of making a butment or butments for a dam or dams adjoining any part of Oldham's claim on Otter Creek and the said John Halley doth warrant .... being part of Jacob Starnes survey of 400 acres on Otter Creek & part of a 1611 survey in my own name ... br. of Otter Creek to Jesse Oldham claim ... to Starnes line at the mouth of the lost Fork to Daughiday's line. John Halley (L.S.) Certified by Co. Clk 21 Nov 1806 Madison Co., KY - 1810 census: 0-0-0-0-1; 0-0-0-0-1 Again, in 1821 John Halley sold land to Richard, Hezekiah, William, and Abner Oldham. The surname Halley is not found in early Caswell Co., NC deeds but is found linked with the Simpson family of Fairfax Co., VA at an earlier time. Jesse Oldham, Sr., an early settler near Boonesborough, was son-in-law to Richard Simpson, Sr. of Caswell Co. who was previously called Richard Simpson, Jr. of Fairfax Co., VA. Refer to the Fairfax Co., VA will of 1764 will of Sarah Simpson, mother of Richard Simpson (II), later of Caswell Co., NC. In it she named two grandchildren: Sarah Halley and Sarah Windsor. Are the Halleys in Madison Co., KY related to those in Fairfax Co., VA? Most probably. These Halley males appear on the 1787 Fairfax Co., VA Personal Property Tax 1787, List B. There are several Harley taxpayers, but we believe they are a separte group from the Halleys: Halley, James, Jr. Halley, John [charged with tax James Halley, Jr.] Halley, Richard Halley, James Halley, Simpson (Netti Schreiner-Yantis & Florene Love, 1787 CENSUS OF VIRGINIA, p. 1063) A William Halley was early in Kentucky, in Fayette Co. as evidenced by this land claim: "William Halley enters 1,000 acres of land on a treasury warrant on ridge between Hingston fork and Stoner fork and adjoining James Moore on the west side. Entered May 11, 1780." (Michael L. Cook and Bettie A. Cummings Cook, FAYETTE COUNTY KENTUCKY RECORDS, VOLUME 1 [Evansville, IN: Cook Publications, 1985], p. 124) From Other Madison Co. Records - Other Instances of Halley Name Marriages: Eckles, Robert & Oldham, Aezela, 5 Mar 1831; Francis Halley bondsman; Moses Oldham, father of bride. Here we have another example of Francis Halley being associated with another Oldham family marriage, this time a child of Richard Ready-Money's second family. Oldham's mother was the former Elizabeth Simpson (dau. of Richard Simpson, Sr.) of Caswell Co. NC: Sutton, John & Oldham, Wella, 14 Nov 1827; Francis Halley, bondsman; Hezekiah Oldham, father of bride giving consent. Return 15 Nov 1827. (Vockery & Vockery, MARRIAGES OF MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY, Vol. II, 1823-1851) Francis Halley appears in the 1810 Madison Co., KY census: 3-0-1-1-1//0-1-0-1-1-28 [28 slaves?] Haley-Halley Francis Halley & Nancy Calk, 21 Jun 1796; Edward Bondurant; William Calk, fa of bride gave consent George Halley & Luisey Calahan (no parents in KY for bride) 3 Feb 1809; Barnabas Haley was bondsman and father of groom & gave consent These Halleys (variant spellings) appear in early Madison Co. tax lists. The transcriber shows the name as Holley or Holly until 1797. Holley, Francis - 1788, 1789, 1791, 1794, 1795, 1796 Holley, Idin, Jr. - 1789 Holly, John - 1788, 1796 (3 X) Holly, John, Jr. - 1789 Holly, Richard - 1791, 1792, 1794 Holly & Wilkerson - 1792 Holly & Wilkison [sic] - 1794, 1795, 1796 Hally, Francis - 1797, 1799 Halley, John (3X) - 1797, 1799 From Marriages of Madison Co. 1786-1822: There was a bride in 1820, 28 Feb: Elizabeth Halley & Wesley S. Green; John Grimes bondsman; mother of bride Nancy Halley gave consent. Cemetery inscriptions give this info re a John Halley, buried in Halley/Holley Cemetery, Madison Co.: Halley, John - 92 yrs - Mar 1838. (If 1838 is burial date, he probably was born ca 1746). From Marriages of Madison Co., KY 1823-1851: Holly, Francis & Oldham, Armilda, 2 Feb 1829, Moses Oldham, bondsman and father of bride, giving consent; ret. 5 Feb 1829.

    07/18/2005 01:27:26
    1. Thanks to All for Trying to Help Me With Tripod Material re Nathaniel Hart
    2. Thanks to all subscribers of MadKY rootsweb who tried to help me with my *Tripod* problem when I tried to read the online family history of the Nathaniel Hart family compiled by William A. LaBach some years ago. A distant cousin, who also has roots in Madison Co. (and elsewhere in Kentucky) was able to copy the material and send it to me. I hope LaBach will be able to update the family history in the not-too-distant future. As many of you know, many of the early settlers of Madison Co. (and Boonesborough) came from North Carolina, and Hart was among that group. One of the Hart brides--Susannah Simpson--was the sister of Elizabeth (Bettie) Oldham nee Simpson, the wife of Jesse Oldham, whose progeny are numerous. Jesse died testate in Madison Co. ca 1814. Much of the Oldham family history as given in W. H. Miller's giant work is very flawed. He mixed up the North Carolina (Caswell Co., NC) Oldhams with those of Jefferson Co., KY. The latter group, I have been told by a genealogist-descendant of that group of Oldhams, came to Kentucky directly from Virginia. On the other hand, the origns of the Jesse Oldham family (and probably a lot of his brothers) are clouded in mystery. We believe, based on Lloyd D. Bockstruck's work, Colonial Soldiers of Virginia, that Jesse Oldham, age 21 in 1755 of Virginia was from the area around what is now Fauquier Co., VA. However, after years of searching for Oldhams, neither I nor other researchers, including some professionals of Virginia, are able to link Jesse Oldham to any parents. Jesse Oldham was on the 1755 roll of Capt. John Ashby, Ashby being a name found in many Fauquier co. records--after the French and Indian War. Fauquier Co. was not formed until 1759, and by 1763, Jesse seems to have been a chain carrier for his brother James in the area around Orange Co., NC. Where was Jesse during the French and Indian War? Was he at Pittsburgh? Although there is a hint (but no PROOF) that Jesse MAY have been the son of a Richard Oldham and an Elizabeth Basye, of Northern Neck Virginia, no one has been able to produce a document which links the two men. Because the records of Caswell Co., NC and of Madison Co., KY seem complete, we can learn a lot about Oldhams in those two counties--after they went West. The deeds are especially enlightening. The Virginia origins of these NC Oldhams seem based on tradition, rather than fact. Is anyone on the list able to dig around in old courthouses in likely places in Virginia? According to a recent book of taxables for Fauquier Co., VA, some researchers are still finding fragile and decaying documents in some of those old courthouses!!! (I wonder how many records got burned or flooded?) Oh, yes, there are some Oldhams on the first taxable list for Fauquier Co. Jesse is not one of the taxables. References will be shared if you request - politely, that is. E.W.Wallace

    07/17/2005 07:38:03
    1. Joseph Williams (wfie Sally Searcy) of Otter Creek, Madison Co., KY
    2. Dear Subscribers, There is evidence in Caswell Co. NC deeds that Joseph Williams (son of Henry Williams, an early resident of Caswell Co. & his wife Elizabeth) migrated to Madison Co., KY. These are probable dates for Joseph Williams: (b. ca. 1767 or later, prob in Lunenburg Co. VA - d. prob. bef. 1825, Madison Co. KY). (Joseph was underage when his father wrote his will in Caswell Co. NC in 1785.) Caswell Co. Deed Bk J-108-09: Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY to Andrew McCauley of Orange Co., NC, for $300, 280 A on Stoney Cr being part of tract willed Joseph Williams by Henry Williams decd. 13 Sept 1795. Wit: Robt Mitchell, Richd Oldham. (Katherine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEEDS BOOKS 1777-1817 [Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1989], various pages) Caswell Co. DB- L-158 Andrew McCauley of Orange Co., NC, to James Rea of CC, for 190 pds., 304 A on N fork Stoney Cr being land formerly entered by Henry Williams decd and conveyed by Joseph Williams a legatee to McCauley adj Benjamin Cantrel, crossing Shaw's Br, Brothers, Kimbrough, Anderson, John Penix. 26 Jan 1799. Wit: Obed Florence, Thomas Loyd. (Kendall, p. 202) Since Williams is such a common name, I need a push here and there. Joseph had an older sister, Ursley Duke (Williams) the widow of Reuben Peoples and later of Richard Ready-Money Oldham who migrated to Madison Co. and the Oldhams lived near Otter Creek in Madison Co., KY. The Oldham-Williams couple had married in Caswell Co., NC prior to migrating to Madison Co., KY. Do you experienced researchers think that Joseph Williams in these Madison Co. deeds is the same person? Joseph Williams married in Madison Co., KY in 1796. Joseph Williams & Sally Searcy (bond 21 Mar 1796). Sally's mother Lucy Searcy gave consent. Robert Searcy was bondsman. (Bill & Kathy Vockery, MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGE RECORDS VOL. 1, 1786-1822 [Richmond, KY: Privately published, 1993], p. 89) Comment: Lucy Searcy is thought to be the widow of Bartlett Searcy, formerly of Granville Co. NC--not to be confused with another Bartlett Searcy also of early Kentucky. Some sources say that her maiden name was Williams, but I have not been able to verify that. Here are some deeds of Joseph Williams, both as grantee and grantor, of Madison Co., KY: A deed in Madison Co., KY indicates Joseph Williams must have been present ca 1795 in Madison Co., KY. Madison Co. KY DB C-461 Moore to Williams 7 July 1795 John Moore to Joseph Williams, both of Madison Co., KY --- consideration 80 pds. -- east fork of Otter Creek being part of a tract of land conveyed to the said John Moore by Nath'l West out of a preemption of 400 A. granted to John South (?) by reference to said deed of conveyance... lines of William West... cor. to Josiah Conn. John Moore (LS) ackd by Moore at a court for Madison Co. on Tuesday 7th of July 1795 (From LDS film 183,284) Over a year later, Joseph Williams sold this property to Brooks. It is unknown the relationship of Lynch Brooks to Joseph Williams, but one of Joseph's sisters had been married to a Charles Brooks in Caswell Co., but he died not long after the marriage. Madison Co., KY DB D-111 4 Oct 1796 Joseph Williams to Lynch Brooks, both of Madison Co., KY.... [consideration] 75 pds... land on East Fork of Otter Creek being part of a tract of land conveyed to the said Joseph Williams by John Moore out of a preemption of 400 acres granted to John Moore by reference to said deed of conveyance being had will more fully appear containing 77 acres. Joseph Williams (L.S.) ackd 4 Oct 1796 (Abstracted from Film 183,285, Madison Co., KY deeds) I would appreciate any leads you may have concerning this Joseph Williams. A Joseph Williams appears in the 1820 census for Madison Co. Oh, yes, if you have some information on Lucy (Williams?) Searcy besides that in Vockery's marriages, please share with me--and with the list!!! E.W.Wallace descedant of Ursley Duke Williams & R/M Oldham

    07/16/2005 05:11:09
    1. RE: [MADKY-L] Garbage on a Tripod URL
    2. Jennifer Bawden
    3. You would need to check with AOL regarding a popup blocker. Otherwise, there is nothing you can do since it is on Tripod and they have to pay the bills someway. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MADKY-L] Garbage on a Tripod URL When I try to access this URL, which is about Madison Co., KY people, it is all smattered with Tripod ads? This is reportedly about the ancestry of Nathaniel Hart, Jr. _http://members.tripod.com/~labach/njharanc.htm_ Is there any way I can get rid of this garbage? (Of course, one has to remove the underline marks at the beginning and end of the URL.) E.W.Wallace who has lots of amcestors in early Madison Co., KY ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== Madison Co. KYGenWeb Page - http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymadiso/madison.html

    07/16/2005 05:09:30
    1. Garbage on a Tripod URL
    2. When I try to access this URL, which is about Madison Co., KY people, it is all smattered with Tripod ads? This is reportedly about the ancestry of Nathaniel Hart, Jr. _http://members.tripod.com/~labach/njharanc.htm_ Is there any way I can get rid of this garbage? (Of course, one has to remove the underline marks at the beginning and end of the URL.) E.W.Wallace who has lots of amcestors in early Madison Co., KY

    07/15/2005 12:11:46
    1. Bowles Law Suit 1826
    2. Panzer
    3. Does anyone have knowledge of this lawsuit or anyone mentioned in it?? Dolores Madison County, Kentucky Circuit Court Case #11274 H. Bowles heirs vs. H. Bowles heirs - in Chancery Sept 1826 Executed 31st August 1826 R.R. Estill D (deputy) for J. Miller Sct MC (Supreme Court Madison County) The Commonwealth of Kentucky to the sheriff of Madison County Greetings you are hereby commanded to summon Mary Bowles & Patsy Bowles To appear before the Judge of our Madison Circuit Court at the Court house in Richmond on the 1st day of our next Sept term to answer to a bill in chancery exhibited against them in our said court by Hugh Bowles heirs And this they shall in nowise omit and have them there this writ witness David Irvin clerk of our said court this 23rd day of Augt 1826 and in the 35 year of the Commonwealth David Irvin Box 114 Bundle 228 Hugh Bowles heirs Vs Hugh Bowles' Admin Filed Augt 23 1826 Att D. Irvin 1826 Sept Cont 1827 July Discontinued To the Honorable judge of the Madison Circuit Court in chancery setting Humbly complaining herewith unto your honor orators Henry Porter and your oratrix Nancy Porter wife of said Henry and Betsy Martin, Jane Bowles Thomas Edge and Polly his wife William Bowles Thomas Bowles Hugh Bowles and John Roach and Sally his wife That on the day of Hugh Bowles died intestate seized and possessed of a tract of land containing about one hundred acres of land situate in the County of Madison and also of a considerable personal estate free from debt or __?__ment leaving your orators and oratixes and the husbands of your oratrixes together with Patsy Bowles his only legal representatives - They make said Patsy Bowles defendant to this bill They charge that at the October Term of the County Court of Madison 1804 Mary Bowles the widow of said Hugh Bowles obtained from said County Court letters of administration on her said husbands estate and afterwards caused an inventory of the personalty of said Hugh's estate to be returned to said County Court which was accounted at that time to wit in November 1804 to the sum of $231.83 to a copy of said inventory they refer as part of this will - They charge that said Administratrix who is prayed a deft hereto never made any sale of the personalty afsd nor has she ever come to any settlement of her said administration with the County Court of Madison. They further charge that said Mary the widow of said Hughs has continued to reside on the land afsd and to occupy the same ever since said Hughs death and (whether ?) she has ever had her dower assigned her either in said tract of land or the personalty they are not able to state certainly but suppose she has not - They are ! willing to give bond to refund in case debts or demands should here after come against said estate upon securing their respective parties of said estate. They charge that the dividend of each of the heirs of said Hugh Bowles decd in the tract of land afsd is (not?) of the value £30. They charge that said Mary Bowles refuses to come to a settlement of her administration or to pay to your orators and oratrixes any part of said personal estate or the proceeds of the same - But for the purpose of evading the payment of the same is fraudulently indevoring to transfer said estate to the Defendant Patsy Bowles - In tender consideration of the premises and for as much as your orators and oratrixes are ___?__less at common law they pray your honor to take cognizance of their case. They pray a settlement of said administration and that your honor would decree a distribution of said estate according to the rights of the complainants and defendants - They pray in ___?___ a sale or division of the tract of land as may be decreed ___?___ for the advantage of these ___?___ to the same. They also pray that said Mary may have her downer assigned her in said estate if it has not already been done. They pray the Commonwealths writ of Subpoena against said Defendants and they the each on oath answer the allegations of this will. They pray for __?__ other and further __?__ in the premises as is equitable and right __?__. Ca___?__ for Complts. End of File.

    07/13/2005 01:28:20
    1. RE: {not a subscriber} Bowles Law Suit 1826
    2. Sherri
    3. Dolores, You're not subscribed to the Madison County list with this address - I'd suggest that you subscribe to the list and repost or send this message with the email address that you ARE subscribed with. I'd be glad to forward your message to the list, but then the replies would most likely come to me and that wouldn't be of any help to you. If you want me to forward to the list, just let me know. Regards, Sherri -----Original Message----- From: Panzer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:25 PM To: Rootsweb; Bowles; Madison County Subject: {not a subscriber} Bowles Law Suit 1826 Does anyone have knowledge of this lawsuit or anyone mentioned in it?? Dolores Madison County, Kentucky Circuit Court Case #11274 H. Bowles heirs vs. H. Bowles heirs - in Chancery Sept 1826 Executed 31st August 1826 R.R. Estill D (deputy) for J. Miller Sct MC (Supreme Court Madison County) The Commonwealth of Kentucky to the sheriff of Madison County Greetings you are hereby commanded to summon Mary Bowles & Patsy Bowles To appear before the Judge of our Madison Circuit Court at the Court house in Richmond on the 1st day of our next Sept term to answer to a bill in chancery exhibited against them in our said court by Hugh Bowles heirs And this they shall in nowise omit and have them there this writ witness David Irvin clerk of our said court this 23rd day of Augt 1826 and in the 35 year of the Commonwealth David Irvin Box 114 Bundle 228 Hugh Bowles heirs Vs Hugh Bowles' Admin Filed Augt 23 1826 Att D. Irvin 1826 Sept Cont 1827 July Discontinued To the Honorable judge of the Madison Circuit Court in chancery setting Humbly complaining herewith unto your honor orators Henry Porter and your oratrix Nancy Porter wife of said Henry and Betsy Martin, Jane Bowles Thomas Edge and Polly his wife William Bowles Thomas Bowles Hugh Bowles and John Roach and Sally his wife That on the day of Hugh Bowles died intestate seized and possessed of a tract of land containing about one hundred acres of land situate in the County of Madison and also of a considerable personal estate free from debt or __?__ment leaving your orators and oratixes and the husbands of your oratrixes together with Patsy Bowles his only legal representatives - They make said Patsy Bowles defendant to this bill They charge that at the October Term of the County Court of Madison 1804 Mary Bowles the widow of said Hugh Bowles obtained from said County Court letters of administration on her said husbands estate and afterwards caused an inventory of the personalty of said Hugh's estate to be returned to said County Court which was accounted at that time to wit in November 1804 to the sum of $231.83 to a copy of said inventory they refer as part of this will - They charge that said Administratrix who is prayed a deft hereto never made any sale of the personalty afsd nor has she ever come to any settlement of her said administration with the County Court of Madison. They further charge that said Mary the widow of said Hughs has continued to reside on the land afsd and to occupy the same ever since said Hughs death and (whether ?) she has ever had her dower assigned her either in said tract of land or the personalty they are not able to state certainly but suppose she has not - They are ! willing to give bond to refund in case debts or demands should here after come against said estate upon securing their respective parties of said estate. They charge that the dividend of each of the heirs of said Hugh Bowles decd in the tract of land afsd is (not?) of the value £30. They charge that said Mary Bowles refuses to come to a settlement of her administration or to pay to your orators and oratrixes any part of said personal estate or the proceeds of the same - But for the purpose of evading the payment of the same is fraudulently indevoring to transfer said estate to the Defendant Patsy Bowles - In tender consideration of the premises and for as much as your orators and oratrixes are ___?__less at common law they pray your honor to take cognizance of their case. They pray a settlement of said administration and that your honor would decree a distribution of said estate according to the rights of the complainants and defendants - They pray in ___?___ a sale or division of the tract of land as may be decreed ___?___ for the advantage of these ___?___ to the same. They also pray that said Mary may have her downer assigned her in said estate if it has not already been done. They pray the Commonwealths writ of Subpoena against said Defendants and they the each on oath answer the allegations of this will. They pray for __?__ other and further __?__ in the premises as is equitable and right __?__. Ca___?__ for Complts. End of File.

    07/12/2005 11:04:11
    1. Dr Elkin C.Combs 1930's
    2. I am looking for my great uncle who was Elkin Clay Combs. He was b. 28 November 1906 in Clark Co Ky and married Mary Evelyn Baldwin. Elkin went be E.C. Combs and was a doctor. Can somone look him up in the 1930 Madison Co Ky census and tell me what kind of doctor he may have been? His mother, Mary Peters Combs's obit said she died at his home in Richmond on 12 Feb 1930, so I know he was living there that year. And he would have at least on child, Eugene Elkin Combs. Thank you for any info you can share. Lynda Combs Gipson

    07/07/2005 01:54:51
    1. New Internet Service!
    2. I have switched my Internet service to BellSouth. The following e-mail address is effective immediately, so please change your address book and remember to e-mail me at this address in the future: [email protected] Thank you for taking the time to stay in contact! *************************************************************************************** To learn about all the communications services available to you, visit http://www.bellsouth.com.

    07/05/2005 02:49:43
    1. Tyre Oldham -Clark Co., KY - 1793; other Oldhams in 1799
    2. Source: TLC Genealogy, Clark County, Kentucky Taxpayers 1793 thru 1799 [Miami Beach, FL: TLC Genealogy, 1990], [page not noted] Oldam, Tyre [1793, no other info other than Clark Co., KY] p. 69 Clark County, Kentucky Taxpayers: 1799 Oldham, Hezekiah Oldham, John Oldham, Richard Oldham, William Since Clark Co. adjoins Madison Co., it is conceivable these males have been on Madison Co., tax lists also. However, at times, one will note on tax lists that a person will pay taxes in a *foreign* county when he owns property in another county. I suggest comparing these published lists with the filmed lists, available most of the time through the Family History Library in Salt Lake City or at various Kentucky repositories. E.W.Wallace descendant of Jesee Oldham & his son Richard *Ready-Money* Oldham

    06/22/2005 08:25:18
    1. 1905 Marriage Record Question - HELP PLEASE!
    2. Doug Park - The Mystical Gravehunter
    3. Hello, Madison and Estill County Rootsweb Listers, Could someone with access to early 1900s Madison County (KY) marriage records please tell me what date my Great Grandparents, Minerva Cobb (1886-1974) and Milton J. Durham (1883-1966) were married and what book, page I can find the record? I believe that they were married in Madison County, KY in November 1905. Please E-mail me direct at: [email protected] Thank you to those who would be so kind as to assist me in my search? Sincerely, Doug Park Hurricane, WV

    06/21/2005 12:11:48
    1. Queries needed for Garrard/Madison Co. magazine
    2. Rita Mackin Fox
    3. I have some space left for queries in the current issue of Paint Lick Reflections, a print-only publication that is mailed to individuals and libraries throughout the nation. The primary focus of the magazine is southeastern Garrard and western Madison, but I include queries from throughout both counties. Many readers aren't on the internet, so this is a great way to make connections. So, please be sure to INCLUDE YOUR MAILING ADDRESS for this reason. I can't print queries without them, because my readers find it frustrating. <g> I'll need these by tonight (preferably 10 p.m. EDT), but send them whenever you'd like. There's always the next issue! The queries will be included in the order received (provided they are complete with contact info). Thanks! Rita Fox, Editor/Publisher Paint Lick Reflections PO Box 62 Paint Lick, KY 40461 Web site (and back issues) paintlickreflections.com [email protected]

    06/16/2005 12:16:52
    1. Kentucky Land Grants/Records Now On the Internet
    2. I copied this from a Culpeper Co., VA website It is part of a newspaper article. Remove the parens from the website given on last line. Rootsweb does not like *naked* URLs. I can hardly wait to check on some of my early settlers -- maybe I will discover some new ones. Tucked in the state Capitol's cavernous basement is an office cubbyhole containing volumes upon volumes of large books tracing the history of land in Kentucky. Those books, many of which have been hidden from the public eye for years, are now available worldwide on the Internet. They're part of the collection in the Secretary of State's Land Office. Now, historians, genealogists and those who are just plain curious can go online, at www.sos.ky.gov, and access a plethora of scanned images of historical land documents. And there are more available every day. The agency launched its redesigned Web site late last month, giving people fingertip access to thousands of handwritten historical documents. You can read more about this valuable new online resource at _(http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/state/11772453.htm_ (http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/state/11772453.htm) ) E.W.Wallace

    06/08/2005 05:26:49
    1. FW: Midwestern Roots genealogy conference
    2. Sherri
    3. ========================================= Meredith Thompson [email protected] alternate e-mail: [email protected] Indiana Genealogical Society Newsletter editor & website manager http://www.indgensoc.org <http://www.indgensoc.org/> ========================================= Midwestern Roots 2005: Family History and Genealogy Conference Indianapolis - Some of the nation's leading genealogy professionals will present at Midwestern Roots 2005: Family History and Genealogy Conference, August 18-20 in Indianapolis. Midwestern Roots, co-sponsored by the Indiana Historical Society and the Indiana Genealogical Society, will feature over 30 presentations covering topics ranging from finding female ancestors, census substitutes, family food traditions and German SS records to baptismal records, preserving family papers, genetics and more. Optional pre-conference activities on Thursday, August 18, range from tours of the William Henry Smith Memorial Library, the Indiana State Library and the Indiana State Archives to writing workshops on preparing family histories for publication, computer labs on genealogy resources available on the internet and a workshop designed for library staff and volunteers who answer questions from genealogy patrons. The Genealogy Division of the Indiana State Library and the Indiana History Center Smith Library also will stay open late for extended research hours. Other activities include a lively panel discussion bringing together genealogists and historians to answer the question, "History and Genealogy: Why Not Both?" The evening will begin with a dessert reception at the Indiana History Center followed by a discussion with nationally-renowned historical genealogists Elizabeth Shown Mills and Curt B. Witcher, Indiana historian James H. Madison and migration historian Marianne S. Wokeck, who will explore how these fields can enrich each other, from uncovering the slightest detail of one life to seeing human history more clearly because of that life. On Friday, August 19, the conference will begin with the opening session by Mills. Mills will explain the standards and processes all researchers need to apply when using family history and genealogical sources. Friday will conclude with a banquet and Mills will give a presentation that encourages taking what is learned about ancestors and conveying it to descendants. On Saturday morning, Madison will begin the day by considering the various migration streams that settled the Midwest and show how their origins, timing and cultural features helped make the region a distinctive part of the nation. Other notable national speakers include genealogists John S. Humphrey, Diane Gagel, Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, Tony Burroughs and Kandie Adkinson. The Indiana Historical Society and the Indiana Genealogical Society will offer six scholarships for individuals to attend the conference. The scholarship application can be found at <outbind://11/cwood/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/OLKD/www.i ndianahistory.org/midwesternroots> www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots. Additional conference information, registration forms and exhibitor information can be found at <outbind://11/cwood/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/OLKD/www.i ndianahistory.org/midwesternroots> www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots or by calling (317) 232-1882. Hotel reservations can be made by calling the Indianapolis Marriott East at (317) 352-1231 or (800) 228-9290. Indicate association with Midwestern Roots 2005 upon making reservations to receive the special $92/night room rate. Room reservations must be made by August 1. The Indiana Genealogical Society promotes genealogical and historical research and education. Annual membership benefits include six issues of the IGS Newsletter; quarterly issues of the Indiana Genealogist with a cumulative index; discounts on IGS publications, workshop and conference registrations; opportunities to volunteer in genealogy related projects; access to free Query submissions, Speaker's Bureau, Researcher's List, Librarian Scholarship, Chapter Grants and special service recognition awards. (www.indgensoc.org) Since 1830, the Indiana Historical Society has been Indiana's storyteller, connecting people to the past by collecting, preserving, interpreting and disseminating Indiana history. The independent, nonprofit organization also publishes books and periodicals; sponsors teacher workshops; provides youth, adult and family programming; assists local historical groups throughout the state; and maintains one of the world's largest collection of material on the history of Indiana and the Old Northwest. The Indiana Historical Society is one of the oldest historical societies in the United States, and one of the largest with more than 10,000 members. ( <http://www.indianahistory.org/> www.indianahistory.org)

    06/06/2005 12:34:15