I intended to send this to the list but I guess it went automatically to Erma. So here is a copy: Erma, I noticed you are interested in the Todds from Madison County, KY. My mother had a good friend named Rose Todd back in the early 1920s. I believe it was her mother that ran a store on the corner of Broadway and Depot Streets in Berea. Depot Street is now called Adams Street. There was also fellow named Green Todd. I have a photo somewhere here of him at the counter of the store. My grandfather built the store building and I have a photo of him standing at the front door. Were these Todds related to you? They are not my relations but I remember Mrs. Todd and Green from our visits to Berea years ago. I was born on Depot Street in 1924 but moved away when still very young. Guess I did not sign it either. Maxine Bowling Friedly

Dear Doug, the amoint of work you have done boggles the mind. I aam so sorry but I am not related to any Todd. If I had something on the web about the Todds ,it was a "lookup" for someone.There was a connection,my relative wasWylie B Fisk, an abolitionist, working with Fee and Clay.He was a teacher, minister and jockey.Heaven only knows what else. He came from Montgomery Co to Jessamine Co to teach school .Afterwhich he went to Madison to preach. He preached at 3 churches.Fee said he , Fisk, could not allow slave ownres to attend his church.Fisk disagreed. There was troublre and Fisk resigned. His wife died and he and most of his children moved to, I think, Missouri. He wa my gggrandfatherHis father was Henry Fisk and his mother Susannah Wylie. of Montgopmery Co. In my search for him I communicated wwith Prof. Sears, but got no more than I already had. You are a wonderful historian and I hope whoever was researching Joel Todd, saw all this. I really am sorry/ EmmaRohrer of Richmond Va. Lived in Jessa,ime for 87 years and here for 7.

Erma, Apparently, your direct Todd line we have been talking about is as follows: John Todd I (b. 1619 in South Hampstonshire, England) m. Elizabeth Mallory (b. 1623) Joshua Tudor Todd (b. 1645, died 1699 in Philadelphia, PA) m. Joanne Swift (1660-1700) Joshua Todd, Jr. (b. 1685 in Philadelphia, PA) Caleb Todd (1708-1794) m. Margaret Catherine Williams (b. 1737) John Todd (1773-1839) m. Patsy Collier (1782-1846) Joel Perry Todd, Sr. (1801-1886) m. Nancy Ruth Lee (1800-1840) Sincerely, Doug Park Hurricane, WV

Nancy Ruth Lee's (1800-1840) parents and siblings (large family)... 1. Richard Bland LEE (Hancock LEE , Jr.5, Hancock LEE , Sr.4, Richard Henry LEE3, John LEE2, John LEE , Sr.1) was born 31 JUL 1753 in Stafford County, Virginia, and died JAN 1820 in Point Lick Creek, Madison, Kentucky. He was buried in Point Lick Creek, Walnut Meadow Fork, Kentucky. He married Elizabeth SCOTT ABT 1777 in Virginia, daughter of William SCOTT. She was born 1764 in Fauquier County, Virginia, and died 19 MAR 1838 in Howard County, Missouri. Children of Richard Bland LEE and Elizabeth SCOTT are: 2 i. William LEE was born MAY 1778 in Fauquier County, Virginia, and died MAY 1824 in Armstrong, Howard, Missouri. He married Ann Elizabeth (Elizabeth Ann) NEWELL. She was born 1782 in Madison County, Kentucky, and died 1800 in Madison County, Kentucky. He married Charlotte HENSMAKER 30 JUL 1822 in Madison County, Kentucky. 3 ii. Charles LEE was born 1780 in Virginia. + 4 iii. Sarah LEE was born 1782 in Virginia, and died 1869 in Ray County, Missouri. + 5 iv. Dorothy (Dolly) LEE was born 11 AUG 1783 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 24 JAN 1869 in Ray County, Missouri. + 6 v. Grissom\Grisham Reed LEE , Sr. was born 28 SEP 1783 in East Tennessee, and died 12 OCT 1860 in Pettis County, Missouri. + 7 vi. Anna Talitha LEE was born 1785 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 22 JUL 1872 in Charleston, Delta, Texas. + 8 vii. Betsey (Elizabeth) LEE was born 1786 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 1829 in Madison County, Kentucky. 9 viii. Elizabeth (Betty) LEE was born 1789 in East Tennessee, and died 1885 in Madison County, Kentucky. She married Thomas BELCHER, son of Robert BELCHER and Mary CLANCY. He was born ABT 1790 in Madison County, Kentucky. 10 ix. David LEE was born 9 FEB 1789 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 22 OCT 1875 in Leeville, Henry, Missouri. He married Ann GILMORE. He married Betty Ann HALL. + 11 x. Noah Green LEE was born 16 JAN 1790 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 17 FEB 1853 in Booneville, Cooper, Missouri. 12 xi. Matilda Malinda LEE was born 1792 in Madison County, Kentucky, and died 1827 in Madison County, Kentucky. She married George WOOLSEY 9 OCT 1809 in Madison County, Kentucky. He was born 1790 in Madison County, Kentucky. + 13 xii. Thomas H. LEE was born 31 DEC 1795 in Madison County, Kentucky, and died 23 DEC 1871 in Howard County, Missouri. + 14 xiii. Richard Washington LEE , Sr. was born 15 SEP 1796 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 5 AUG 1882 in Armstrong, Howard, Missouri. + 15 xiv. Mary Ann (Polly) LEE was born 1797 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 1908 in Nodaway County, Missouri. + 16 xv. Delila (Dilly) LEE was born 1799 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 1870 in Randolph County, Missouri. + 17 xvi. Nancy Ruth LEE was born 1800 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 1840 in Madison County, Kentucky. + 18 xvii. James B. LEE was born 26 DEC 1801 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 10 MAY 1864 in Leesville, Henry, Missouri. 19 xviii. Margaret (Peggy) LEE was born 1802 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died ABT 1849 in Linn County, Missouri. She married David W. DALTON. She married Hugh Cloud DALTON 19 SEP 1822 in Madison County, Kentucky. He was born 1800 in Madison County, Kentucky. + 20 xix. Irvine LEE was born 1803 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 1844 in Madison County, Kentucky. 21 xx. Edward LEE was born 1804. + 22 xxi. Lucinda LEE was born 1808 in Paint Lick, Madison, Kentucky, and died 1860 in Bucklin Township, Linn County, Missouri.

Hi Erma, What a blessed lady you are to have all this wonderful help from such a nice guy like Doug. :-) In case you haven't found the grave yet; you might try this website. www.findagrave.com Happy Lord's Day today! Traci

Erma, Here is the will of your Joel Perry Todd, Sr.'s Grandfather, Caleb Todd, born in Philadelphia in 1708. Caleb's son, John Todd (m. Patsy Collier) is your Joel's father. My 5th GGF, Ebenezer Park, Sr. (1747-1839) also had ancestors in in the Philadelphia area. Eb too migrated to Rowan County, NC and like many there...later traveled to Madison County, KY (1796). Name: Caleb TODD Sex: M Birth: 1708 in Philadelphia Co., PA Death: 21 SEP 1794 in Rowan Co., NC Reference Number: 2842 The will of Caleb Todd found in the Rowan Co. Library, No. Carolina and copied by Margaret (Maggi) Todd Rackley: In the name of God Amen! In September 1794, I, Caleb Todd, of Rowan County and State of North Carolina, being weak in body but of perfect mind and memory, Recalling to mind the mortality of my body, and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain this my last will and testament to which to say principally. First of all I give and reccoment my soul into the house of God and my body to be buried in a decent Christian manner at the direction of my executors. And( as to nothing such unholy state as it had pleased God to bless me with in thus life.{this is very hard to read and may not be accurate}) I give and dispose the same in the following manner. First of all I will that my debts and funeral charges be discharged. Item - I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Mary Todd, One half of my lands, all my horses, cattle, hogs, sheep, and all my farming tools and all the household and furniture. Item - I give and bequeath unto Caleb Todd, my son, one half of all my lands. And I do hereby (?) discount and make void all other wills and test. here to fore made by me. Declaring this alone to be my last will and testament. And I do nominate, constitate and appoint my two sons Caleb and Joshua executors to this my last will and testament. (? ?)where as I have here unto set my hand and seal. Singed, sealed and (?) in the persons of John Todd and Thomas Todd Signed X(mark) - (Caleb Todd) Patented land in Bucks Co., PA in 1742. (Vol 24 pg 170 of PA Archives for 9 Feb 1743). Sold land to Lewis Enger in 1756 and went to Rowan Co., NC. Had a first wife of unknown name. Moved to Wilkes Co., GA but returned to NC by 1790, where he is in census with 3 males and 4 females. Will dated 21 Sep 1794 (Book E, pg 30 Rowan Co., NC) probated in 1796. Father: Joshua TODD b: ABT. 1681 in Philadelphia Co., PA Mother: UNKNOWN Marriage 1 Margaret Catherine WILLIAMS b: ABT. 1745 Married: ABT. 1766 Note: [toddjohn.FTW] Children Sarah TODD Deadomia TODD Caleb TODD b: ABT. 1758 Benjamin TODD b: ABT. 1759 in Northampton Co., PA Mary TODD b: 1764 John TODD b: 25 MAR 1773 in Easton, North Hampton Co., PA Joshua TODD b: ABT. 1774 Sincerely, Doug Park Hurricane, WV

Erma, Check this article out on the History of Berea using link below: http://community.berea.edu/EarlyBlackBerea/bereahistory.html Third paragraph from bottom reads: Off Chestnut St., Boone St. rolls downhill to cross Brushy Fork Creek and becomes Slate Lick Rd. Black pioneers Stephen and Sylvia Hagan (Hagins) arrived at night, looking for "Feetown", and missed the settlement on the Ridge so they camped at the foot of the hill near the creek. In 1868, they were able to buy five acres of that land from Joel and Nancy Todd, Sr.. Among the black families who moved nearby were the Caleb and Nancy Bernaugh family, and the Horace and Rebecca Ballew Yates family. Horace was a Civil War veteran of the Union Army stationed at Camp Nelson; a member of Union Church and a literate farmer and landowner. Possibly clues as to where Joel and Nancy were living. Doug Park Hurricane, WV

Name: Joel Sr. (Uncle Joel) Perry TODD Sex: M Birth: 8 MAR 1801 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Death: 18 SEP 1886 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wwofn&id=I6126 Note: 1. Gave the land for the founding of Berea College in Berea,Kentucky. 2. Joel Todd was a member and supporter of John G. Fee's "FreeChurch," Glade Church (American Missionary Association). 3. He was a radical abolitionist and was in the group of exileswhen they fled to Cincinnati, Ohio. Later he would sell land tofreed African American Slaves. 4. From "A UTOPIAN EXPERIEMENT IN KENTUCKY", pg 81. "One familyof white Bereans sold hundreds of acres to black settlers: JoelTodd, Sr., and his wife Nancy Mills, who had been exiled fortheir support of abolitionism in 1860, made land available tomany black families. On February 17, 1868, Todd sold land onBushy Fork to Anderson Crawford, Stephen Hagan, and HoraceYates. These settlers living neighbors to one another,constitutes the now nonexistand town of Canton, Kentucky,apparently their name for black settlers on Bushy Fork. DanielHerron bought town lot no. 4 in Canton from Joel Todd, Sr.February 2, 1869. (Lest it appear that [Rev. John] Fee's policyof interspersion was spoiled by this black village, it should bepointed out that everyone in it owned land neighboring a whiteperson's land on one boundry line at least.) In 1873, JoelTodd, Sr., sold another parcel of land on Bushy Fork to HenryAdams, who had purchased materials for building a house in 1866.Probably blacks were permitted to erect houses on land theyplanned to purchase sometime later. Adams is not the onlyinstance of a black man in Berea building a house before heowned land to put it on. The five acres Stephen Hagan bought in1868 included the house where he already lived. Joel Todd, Jr.,a pre-Civil War student in the Berea school and owner of landnear his father's, also sold to blacks including Horace Yates(1874) and Gibson Gill (1878)." 5. Father: John TODD b: 25 MAY 1773 in Easton, Northhampton Co., PENNSYLVANIA Mother: Martha (Patsy) COLLIER b: 16 JAN 1782 Marriage 1 Nancy Ruth LEE b: 1800 in Paint Lick, Madison Co., KENTUCKY Married: 13 MAR 1822 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Children Martha Ann TODD b: 16 FEB 1823 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Elizabeth (Betty) TODD b: 1824 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY John TODD b: 1 JAN 1826 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Richard TODD b: 1827 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Irvine TODD b: 1828 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Newton G TODD b: 1830 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Amanda Lydia TODD b: 12 APR 1832 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Lucinda TODD b: 12 APR 1834 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Mary Jane TODD b: 26 SEP 1836 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY Joel Elias II TODD b: 15 MAY 1839 in Kingston, Madison Co., KENTUCKY Marriage 2 Nancy MILLS Married: 17 DEC 1841 Hope this helps. Doug Park Hurricane, WV

Erma... Appears that your Joel Todd, Sr. was not born in 1799, but his sister, Aynie Todd (5 Feb 1799) was! See below. John TODD (Caleb TODD1) was born 25 MAY 1773 in Easton, Northhampton Co., PENNSYLVANIA, and died 15 APR 1839 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. He married Martha (Patsy) COLLIER 14 OCT 1797 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, daughter of John COLLIER and Mildred CARY. She was born 16 JAN 1782, and died 18 MAY 1846 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. Children of John TODD and Martha (Patsy) COLLIER are: 2 i. Nancy TODD was born 1798 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. She married Daniel COY 28 OCT 1818 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. He was born in MISSOURI. 3 ii. Aynip (Aynie) TODD was born 5 FEB 1799 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. + 4 iii. Joel Sr. (Uncle Joel) Perry TODD was born 8 MAR 1801 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, and died 18 SEP 1886 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. 5 iv. William TODD was born 4 NOV 1802, and died 24 DEC . He married Jane DOUGLASS, daughter of Alexander W DOUGLASS and Jane MOORE. + 6 v. Permilla (Amelia) TODD was born 20 DEC 1803 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, and died 24 OCT 1832 in Lincoln Co., MISSOURI. 7 vi. Jaili (Julie) TODD was born 16 JUN 1805 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, and died 29 JUN 1834 in KENTUCKY. She married Elijah HAWKINS 1 FEB 1827 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. 8 vii. John TODD was born 14 FEB 1807 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, and died 2 SEP 1861 in KENTUCKY. He married Nancy STEPHENSON 26 SEP 1830 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. 9 viii. Lucinda (Lucy) TODD was born 8 APR 1808 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, and died 1849. She married Perry PICKENS. She married Perry BECKNALL 11 AUG 1839 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. She married Wiley MILLER 13 NOV . 10 ix. Minerva TODD was born 8 SEP 1809 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, and died 1834 in KENTUCKY. She married Edward HAWKINS 28 MAR 1830 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. 11 x. Levi TODD was born 14 AUG 1811 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, and died 12 FEB 1849. He married Permelia COX. Doug Park Hurricane, WV

The Carthage Republican Wednesday, February 15, 1905 Vol. LI No.2662 "John, son of Joel and Nancy Todd, was born January 1, 1826. While yet in Kentucky, he was married September 6, 1846, to Martha Ann Elder, who still survives him. To this union there were born nine children, six sons and three daughters. Of these six survive, four sons and two daughters: J.H. Todd,Jr., Maryville, Missouri; John E. Todd, Carthage, Illinois; Dr. Richard H. Todd, New Sharon, Iowa; William I. Todd, Burnside, Illinois; Melissa (sic) A., wife of Robert Pace, Denver, Illinois; Amanda E., wife of Luke Funk, Scott County, Illinois. Besides the living children, there are fourteen surviving grandchildren. Remaining in Kentucky five years after his marriage, in October, 1851, he removed from that state, settling in Illinois. In the Fall of 1858 he removed to Saline County, Missouri. In April of the following year he went back to Kentucky, staying there until October 1st, whe he again left Kentucky, getting back to Missouri the last of the month. Remaining in Missouri this time about six years, he finally removed from that state in November, 1865, arriving in Illinois December 1st, where he lived until the time of his death. During the whole of his life spent in Illinois he has resided in Hancock County. The past fifteen years he lived in Denver. He joined the Masonic Lodge in Madison County, Kentucky, in 1851. In the Winter of 1866, at Mt. Pleasant Church in Harmony Township of this county, he obeyed the gospel, being baptized into the Church of Christ by Brother E.J. Lampton, now of Louisiana, Missouri. Thus for 39 years Brother Todd was one of the Lord's disciples. After a brief illness of little more than a week, he died February 8, 1905, aged 79 years, 1 month, and seven days. That he was a kind father and good neighbor, was indicated by the unusual attachment of his children and the active sympathy of the neighbors in his late illness. The funeral was conducted at the Christian Church by Rev. Buckner. The remains were laid to rest in Denver Cemetery by the Masonic Order of this place, of which he was an honored member."

Erma, Post your query on the Madison County Rootweb board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.kentucky.counties.madison or Rootweb's "Todd" Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.todd Sincerely, Doug Park Hurricane, WV

Erma, Below is a query (1999) that I extracted from Rootsweb on your Joel Todd. It was written by Tom Todd at the following e-mail address: [email protected] Don't know if it is still a good address, but wouldn't hurt to try. Author: Tom Todd Date: 28 Sep 1999 12:00 PM GMT Surnames: Todd, Lee, Elder, Collier, Vermillion Classification: Query In Reply to: Joel Todd by: James Todd Joel Todd (b.8 Mar 1801, Madison Co, Ky) son of John Todd and Martha "Patsy" Collier, married Nancy R. Lee. Of their 10 children, the first mentioned Joel Jr. (b.15 May 1838, Madison Co, Ky) was the tenth child. He married Sarepta (or Serephena) Vermillion. They had 8 children, including a John (b.1869) and a Joel III (b.1871). Joel Todd and Nancy R. Lee's third child was named John (b.1 Jan 1826, Madison Co, Ky). He married Martha Ann Elder. They had 9 children, the second of which was named Joel Howard (b.22 July 1850, Madison Co, Ky) and the fourth of which was named John (b.2 May 1857, Madison Co, Ky). Joel (Sr) was a supporter of the abolitionist "colony" of John Gregg Fee near Berea. Many of his sons and sons-in-law served in the Union cause during the War of the Rebellion while Joel Sr. was exiled to Cincinnati. His son, Joel Jr., attended Berea College after the hostilities ended. I recommend "A Day of Small Things" by Dr. Richard Sears. It provides a good summary of the events around Berea at this time. In Dr. Sear's writing, it is mentioned "...although many of Joel Todd's relations were slaveholders in both Madison and Rockcastle counties (his cousin John Todd was the slaveholding deacon of Scaffold Cane Baptist Church), Joel's sympathies lay with the abolitionists;..." I have not had any luck in finding out more about this 'cousin' John Todd. Perhaps he sired a Joel as well? Quite a mess of Johns and Joels, but I hope it helps in your efforts. Doug Park Hurricane, WV

Erma, In an Autumn 2003 issue (#7) of Paint Lick Reflections quarterly magazine, there is an article on your Nancy Ruth Lee (Todd) on page p. 37. I don't have this issue, but you can order back-issues from them. Possibly there are clues as to where her husband Joel Todd was laid to rest? http://www.paintlickreflections.com/index.html Doug Park Hurricane, WV -----Original Message----- From: Erma N. Herrmann [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Cemetery Hello, I've not posted here and now have a question. Is there someone on this list that lives close to Kingston, Madison, KY.? I have just found a note in among old correspondence. It has a sentence that says my 3rd Great Grandfather Joel Todd was buried in the Kingston, Madison, KY. cemetery. His dates are: b: 8 March 1799 (some say 1802), in Madison Co., d: just abt. Sept. 1886, in/near Berea, KY. He was married 1822, Madison Co., to Nancy Ruth Lee, dau. of Richard Lee of the Paint Lick Creek Community. What I'm asking is if there is someone who can check this for me? I live in San Jose, CA. and will not able to get to Madison Co. again for at least a couple of yrs. All help appreciated!!! Thanks, Erma

Erma, There is a Todd Cemetery near Berea, KY--graves have been moved to Berea Cemetery. Stones had been located in a field opposite and south of the Mayde Road/Hwy 595 intersection. A gravel farm road access road allows parking. Oldest graves are J. Madison Todd (1808-1900), Wife Margaret J. (1812-1901). Doug Park Hurricane, WV -----Original Message----- From: Erma N. Herrmann [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Cemetery Hello, I've not posted here and now have a question. Is there someone on this list that lives close to Kingston, Madison, KY.? I have just found a note in among old correspondence. It has a sentence that says my 3rd Great Grandfather Joel Todd was buried in the Kingston, Madison, KY. cemetery. His dates are: b: 8 March 1799 (some say 1802), in Madison Co., d: just abt. Sept. 1886, in/near Berea, KY. He was married 1822, Madison Co., to Nancy Ruth Lee, dau. of Richard Lee of the Paint Lick Creek Community. What I'm asking is if there is someone who can check this for me? I live in San Jose, CA. and will not able to get to Madison Co. again for at least a couple of yrs. All help appreciated!!! Thanks, Erma

Erma, The only cemetery that I find in Madison County is Joel Todd Cemetery which is described as unfenced, but well-maintained in the backyard of the home located at 270 Haiti Rd., about one mile south of U.S. Rt. 25. Joel Todd Born May 15, 1839 Died June 19, 1910 Sarepta V. Wife of Joel Todd Born Jul 15, 1842 Died November 14, 1915 Also, Johnson, Huff, Powell, McIntosh, Shaw, Hornsby, & Croucher family members buried there among 8 Todd family members. Are you sure he died in Madison County? Doug Park Hurricane, WV -----Original Message----- From: Erma N. Herrmann [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Cemetery Hello, I've not posted here and now have a question. Is there someone on this list that lives close to Kingston, Madison, KY.? I have just found a note in among old correspondence. It has a sentence that says my 3rd Great Grandfather Joel Todd was buried in the Kingston, Madison, KY. cemetery. His dates are: b: 8 March 1799 (some say 1802), in Madison Co., d: just abt. Sept. 1886, in/near Berea, KY. He was married 1822, Madison Co., to Nancy Ruth Lee, dau. of Richard Lee of the Paint Lick Creek Community. What I'm asking is if there is someone who can check this for me? I live in San Jose, CA. and will not able to get to Madison Co. again for at least a couple of yrs. All help appreciated!!! Thanks, Erma

Hello, I've not posted here and now have a question. Is there someone on this list that lives close to Kingston, Madison, KY.? I have just found a note in among old correspondence. It has a sentence that says my 3rd Great Grandfather Joel Todd was buried in the Kingston, Madison, KY. cemetery. His dates are: b: 8 March 1799 (some say 1802), in Madison Co., d: just abt. Sept. 1886, in/near Berea, KY. He was married 1822, Madison Co., to Nancy Ruth Lee, dau. of Richard Lee of the Paint Lick Creek Community. What I'm asking is if there is someone who can check this for me? I live in San Jose, CA. and will not able to get to Madison Co. again for at least a couple of yrs. All help appreciated!!! Thanks, Erma

Seeking history on John Murphy, b. abt. 1766 in NC. He left NC and went to Madison Co. (& surrounding counties) with his 1st wife, Hannah McNamare(a). John Murphy Sr. was a Methodist Minister - there are records of marriages he performed in Madison Co. After Hannah's death, John married Lucy Hughes, b. in McMinn Co., TN. Lucy was very much younger than John when they married. I do not have the dates in front of me, but anyone with knowledge of this family will know what and who I am talking about. John Murphy and Lucy Hughes had children who were among the first students to attend Berea College. Some names are Elhannon and Pearson. I very much want to know John Murphy's whereabouts in NC and who his parents & siblings were. I would love dearly to hear from someone with a connection to this family, or who has knowledge of connections. Many, many thanks, Crystal Murphy GGgranddaughter of John Murphy Sr. & Lucy Hughes

Dear Subscribers: Joseph Williams in this brief bio (I have more) is almost certain to be the son of Henry Williams (d...... testate Caswell Co., NC) as proved by earlier deeds in Caswell Co. which indicate Joseph Williams is of Madison Co., KY. Here are some abstracted deeds, recorded in Madison Co., KY, of Joseph Williams, grantee, and Tyre Oldham and his wife Nancy, and later between Joseph Williams, grantee, and James French and Kezia his wife. Joseph Williams married Sally Searcy, daughter of Bartlett Searcy (decd) and his wife, said to be Lucy Williams. I have not been able to confirm that Lucy Searcy, originally of Granville Co., NC was indeed a Williams. Can anyone shed further light on Joseph Williams and his mother-in-law, Lucy Searcy? Or on Tyree Harris and his wife Nancy. Does anyone know when Joseph Williams died--and where? Hint: Joseph Williams is a younger brother of Ursala Duke Williams, the widow Peoples, who married Richard *Ready-Money* Oldham in Caswell Co., NC. R/M and Ursala migrated to Madison Co., KY soon after their marriage. After Ursala or Ursley's death after the birth of a fifth child, R/M Oldham married Patsy Reid, daughter of Alexander Reid, an early settler of Kentucky. Reid is believed to have also been of North Carolina. Furthermore, Tyree Oldham is said to be the brother of R/M Oldham, both of them sons of Jesse Oldham, an early explorer of Boonesborough, according to a clipping found in the Lyman C. Draper manuscripts. Submitted by E.W.Wallace descendant of R/M Oldham and his first wife Ursley Duke Williams Peoples DB E-132 [abstracted] 28 Feb 1801 - Tyree Oldham to Joseph Williams both of Madison Co., KY - Tyree Oldham & his wife Nancy for and in consideration of 104 pds. - 52A between Tates Bottom Run & Kentucky River granted to Tyree Oldham by patent bearing the 18th day of May 1796...lines of William Irvine... ln. of Isaac Ware ... Wares Ln No 87... corner to Robert Clarke... ln of Richard Harrison Tyree Oldham [LS] Nancy Oldham [LS] Ackd by Tyree Harris & Nancy Oldham in Madison Co. court Monday the 2nd day of March 1801. Nancy examined privately. (SL film 183,286) DB F-21 [abstracted] 4 Nov 1805 James French and Kezia his wife of Montgomery Co. KY to Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY... consideration 420 pds. ... 202 acres on waters of Otter Creek & Tates Bottom... being the place where the said Joseph Williams now lives... corner to Samuel South ... Tates Bottom Run... Richard Harrison's preemption of 1000 .. thence with the line of Harrisons preemption... Harrisons line to his corner... branch of Stony Run.. ln of Wm.Smiths survey of 1000 acres... ln of William Irvine & James French... Charles Caffery.. ln of Irvine & French West... ln of Samuel South James French Keziah French I Joseph Williams do hereby declare that the foregoing deed from James French & Keziah his wife is in full discharge of said French's bond to me for the land on which I now live & provided I should find said Bond which is either lost or mislaid. I am to deliver said Bond to said French as witness my hand & seal this 5th day of November 1805. Joseph Williams [LS] (SL film 183,287) This highly abstracted deed is also believed to pertain to Joseph Williams. DB F-706 [abstracted] Woods to Williams, 12 Sept 1808 William Woods & Ruth Woods of Madison Co. KY of same... consideration 1500 dollars ... 100 A. ... parcel of land lying on Hazel Patch Road and on the waters of Rockcastle William Woods [LS] Ruth Woods [LS] Are these brides the children of Jseph Williams and Sally Searcy? Since brides married quite young in this time period, it is conceivable Joseph Williams, son of Henry, is the father of the following brides: Barnett Eades & Elizabeth Williams - 17 Sep 1811 (bond); Joseph Williams, father of bride; Lewis Eades, bondsman. Lewis Pully & Lucy Williams - 15 May 1817; Joseph Wiliams, father of bride; Samuel Searcy, bondsman. Certainly the naming patterns of the brides--Elizabeth and Lucy-- and in the case of the second cited marriage, the association with a Searcy bondsman, would certainly suggest linkage with the extended Henry Williams-Bartlett Searcy family of Caswell Co. and Granville Co., North Carolina. Elizabeth Williams, wife of Henry3 Williams, was the mother of Joseph4 Williams. Lucy Searcy nee Williams (purported) would be the maternal grandmother of the bride. Joseph Williams and Sally Williams were witnesses to the will of James Harrison, 1806, Will Bk. A (Charles M. Franklin, Madison Co. KY WILLS & ESTATES 1785-1813) Possibly Joseph had died by 1825 as one Sally Williams, mother of the bride, has given consent to this Madison Co. marriage bond: James Mitchell & Sophia Williams, 29 Dec 1825 Wiley Searcy, bondsman; Sally Williams, mother of bride. (Bill & Kathy Vockery, MADISON CO., KY MARRIAGE RECORDS, V. II [Richmond, KY, 1997] p. 52)

Hi Traci, We may or may not have the same Smith family. I was stumped with my Smith's until earlier this year when I made a breakthrough. I still haven't made a 'for sure' connection with the Madison Co. Smith family, but my grandmother said we were related to them. I just found some new information in early Madison Co deeds that I hope will shed some light on the connection, and another generation for me. My gg grandmother was Sylvania (pronounced like Cevina) Smith, born 1842, Owsley Co KY, who married William J. Riddell and they lived in Estill Co Ky. She was living in a foster home in 1850 in Owsley Co and this made finding her parents quite difficult. There was a number of other Smith children living in various homes in that census, too. I've researched some of those 'various' families in order to find clues about my Smith family. How far back have you been able to go in tracing your Smith family? It would be very exciting to find a Smith cousin. I have found a couple of Smith men in Madison Co censuses ( in the 1800's) who were born in England, meaning there are at least two sets of Smiths in Madison Co in those years. The one set was in this country from earlier times, and I believe probably lived in TN before moving up into KY. I'm still putting pieces together. I'd love to hear more about your Smiths, and would be glad to share with you, what I've found so far. Thanks and Take care, Wanda Flesher At 08:14 AM 7/20/2005, you wrote: >Hi All, > >You have all been so helpful to this one who is practically a newbie. Been >doing this for many years, but with hubby's name (Wills) there were so many >ahead of me that I didn't have to do much. Have been stumped with my maiden >name for years and finally feel I'm getting somewhere! Special thanks to >G.T. He found my cemetery!! I'm so excited, I'm in tears! > >Don't know yet what my next step is, but you all are sure to find out about >it, when I figure it out. <grin> > >Traci > > > > >==== MADKY Mailing List ==== >Stuck on one of your Madison Co. ancestors? Can't get any help if you >don't post! Post today! For Freedom's Sake, Love God. Love America.

My Grandmother remembers a similar hill from a funeral she attended circa 1920. That cemetery is located now at the end of Cornelison Road inside the Griggs property. I believe that the cemetery is known as the _____Green Cemetery (named for one if its "inhabitants"), also known as "Hilltop Cemetery" as it is in Hilltop Acres Subdivision off of Barnes Mill Road in Madison County. Hope this helps. S.Poynter