In a message dated 9/12/2005 7:58:22 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: FB Mosias Jones. What does "FB" mean? I am related to a "Mosias Jones" of said county.. Ellie Swanger

Looking connections and children of this Michael Miller who was born ca 1783 in Wilkes County, NC and married to Polly Jones on Oct 20, 1807 in Madison County, KY. FB Mosias Jones. Son Leonard Miller. The deed involve 100 acres on Otter Creek and I think it was located on a ridge between Otter and Muddy Creeks. 5 Mar 1844, deed produced in Madison Co Circuit Court - dispute over tract of land that belonged to John MILLER, deceased. Situated on dividing ridge bet Muddy Creek and Otter Creek. Anyone know of the dispute and how it was resolved? I believe Michael to be the son of John but confused by the property deed. Thanks for any help, -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005

Bud, As far as I know, I am not related to the Todds or Lees. I am descended from James Fowler and Alitha Williams Fowler, daughter of Abraham Williams, who was born circa 1790, and Patsy Stultz. I have court information on these and hope to go to the court house in Richmond, Ky. to find the originals. There were Todds who were neighbors of my family in Berea, Ky. Henry Todd was one of my father's best friends, but my father died in 1923 at the age of 29 and Henry lived many more years after that. I am not positive, but Henry may have been a son or brother of Joel Todd. I am not researching this family. Should I find the little book you refer to, I would be glad to let you know. Maxine Bowling Friedly ----- Original Message ----- From: "DWSBGS" <[email protected]> To: "charles friedly" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [MADKY-L] Re: Todd, Williams etc. > Charles I don't recall are you a TODD-LEE descendent? I'm from Nancy LEE > TODD's brother Grissom"s line. Should you ever stubble across a little > booklet by Rev. FEE "A Day of Small Things" let me know where and if it is > for sale or copyable. The pages I have are very poor photocopy but an > interesting view of the times. The Brerea College Alumni files have some > data on my TODD lines. Bud.

Am I butt in? I am looking for a connection to my Deborah LEE, wife of John HODGES, m Goochland 11 Nov 1756, daughter of John LEE. Deborah would be my 5th great-grandmother. Do you know this LEE family? Thank you for your time, Mary in South Dakota (where I would be glad to help) -----Original Message----- From: charles friedly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MADKY-L] Re: Todd, Williams etc. Bud, As far as I know, I am not related to the Todds or Lees. I am descended from James Fowler and Alitha Williams Fowler, daughter of Abraham Williams, who was born circa 1790, and Patsy Stultz. I have court information on these and hope to go to the court house in Richmond, Ky. to find the originals. There were Todds who were neighbors of my family in Berea, Ky. Henry Todd was one of my father's best friends, but my father died in 1923 at the age of 29 and Henry lived many more years after that. I am not positive, but Henry may have been a son or brother of Joel Todd. I am not researching this family. Should I find the little book you refer to, I would be glad to let you know. Maxine Bowling Friedly ----- Original Message ----- From: "DWSBGS" <[email protected]> To: "charles friedly" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [MADKY-L] Re: Todd, Williams etc. > Charles I don't recall are you a TODD-LEE descendent? I'm from Nancy LEE > TODD's brother Grissom"s line. Should you ever stubble across a little > booklet by Rev. FEE "A Day of Small Things" let me know where and if it is > for sale or copyable. The pages I have are very poor photocopy but an > interesting view of the times. The Brerea College Alumni files have some > data on my TODD lines. Bud. ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== Stuck on one of your Madison Co. ancestors? Can't get any help if you don't post! Post today!

I wanted to encourage everyone in the neighborhood to come out for the Tobacco and Rural Hertitage Festival in Lancaster, Sept. 9-10 (this Friday-Saturday), and stop by my booth to say hello. I'll be near Napier's store on Public Square with my local-history books and back issues of Paint Lick Reflections (which include tons of historical and genealogical information about Garrard and Madison counties). Feel free to set a spell at my booth and read some magazines if you get tired of walking. I'll have a chair to spare. I'll also be selling and signing copies of my new book, Images of America: Garrard County, which includes more than 200 vintage photos of rural Kentucky at its best--Garrard County. If you want to see what rural heritage looks like, pick up the display copy and have a look! And I'll have copies of a church cookbook from the Paint Lick United Methodist Church available to sell. The book has the story about the church's 20-year history of putting on an outdoor Nativity drama at the church. And lots of great recipes, some of them about 100 years old. I'll even have copies of my family history/cookbook from the Nelson County/Marion County/Jefferson County areas. Last, but not least, I'll have a draft of my upcoming Images of America: Garrard County in World War II book, expected to be published early next year by Arcadia Publishing. Hope to see you there! Be sure to say hello and introduce yourself if you come! I'll be happy to take story and photo submissions for the last three issues of Paint Lick Reflections while I'm there. (Sorry, but I won't have a scanner set up, so be sure to bring reprints.) The Spring 2005 edition is available by subscription only. You'll get that one, plus the next three, which are due out October, December, and February. Then I'll be closing down the magazine for a while to pursue some other local-history projects over the next few years. Have a great day! Rita Fox, Editor/Publisher Paint Lick Reflections paintlickreflections.com

For any of you who have not heard of this wonderful group yet I would like to invite you to join In and around Adair County Kentucky Yahoo group This Group was formed in effort to continue the work of Carlis Wilson who passed away earlier this year. This Group is dedicated to his memory and ran according to the standards that Carlis Wilson practiced. You will find tons of info from Adair and surrounding counties, meet alot of great people who are researching these areas and share photos, obits and so much more. Please come visit us at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InandAroundAdairCountyKentucky/ Thanks, Carla

Hi, I would like to know if anyone has any information on Johnson Simmons or his wife Peggy Margaret Alumbaugh. I would really like to find parents and siblings of Johnson. Census records show that he was born in Virginia. He was married to Peggy Margaret "Allenbaugh" in Madison County, KY 30 Jan 1814 (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cramsey/madco_s.htm). Some of their children were born in Madison Co: (probably) Nancy Simmons b. 21 Oct 1816, Thomas B. Simmons b. 04 Sep 1822, Peter Simmons b. 23 Jun 1823. After that the family moved to Sullivan Co., IN, and then to Buchanan Co., MO. Thank you. Patty Delmott

While perusing an LDS film No. 252616 - Nicholas Co. KY Grantee Index to Deeds 1808-1882, I found these Oldham males listed as grantors (those selling property). There is not much detail in an index, since I did not note the dates. However, the earliest ones were 1808 or later. Perhaps from the Volume No [Letter not number]. of the Deed Book, you can estimate the year by accessing the list on the Family History Library catalog entry for Nicholas Co. and accessing Land Records. Bk A - p. 198 Clay, Green from Absaoum [sic] Oldham p. 378 Cobb, Jesse from Richard Oldham p. 381 same Cobb from John Oldham Bk B page 1 Clay, Green from Campbell & Oldham page 11 Cobb, Jesse from Absalum Oldham Bk C page 467 Clay, Green from Zere Oldham Bk F p. 136 Cobb, Jesse from Zere Oldham p. 181 Cobb, Jesse from M. Oldham & c Comment: I believe Green Clay was from Madison Co., Ky, and in fact, the other parties named above may also be found in some Madison Co. records. (*&C* in above refers to others, who are frequently heirs. Always take a second look at those deeds which have *& hrs* and *&c* after a person's name. Might make some interesting discoveries. Family History Library catalog states Nicholas was formed 1799, created from Bourbon and Mason counties. Some census searches may help narrow your search. I have found deeds frequently give me some family relationships. In Kentucky, in particular, commissioners deeds (indexed under C ) may give some wonderful details about your extended families. A commissioner was frequently appointed by a probate court to help heirs of a deceased landowner make decisions about the sale or disposal of the property. Look for this info in the deed indexes, a great help for Kentucky (and most southern) research. Submitted by E.W.Wallace

Estill & Madison County List Friends, I am desperately looking for a copy of the article on the Old Cobb Pioneer Homestead that was published in Irvine's Citizen Voice & Times Newspaper a few weeks back (weekly newspaper)--possibly early August 2005. This log cabin was built by my 4th Great Grandparents, Jesse Cobb, Sr. (1769-1836) and Edith Oldham (1773-1836) in 1795 upon their arrival in Kentucky from North Carolina. Could someone please send me a copy of this article? I would gladly pay copying and postage costs! In 1999, I informed the owners of the present-day Cobb Farm, Onaleen and Lewis Muncie of the origin of this cabin, which their family (Puckett Family) had inhabited for many years. Recently, Onaleen and Lewis restored the Old Pioneer cabin and did a wonderful job!!! They had a Puckett Family Reunion on Saturday, 20 August 2005 to celebrate the rebirth of this cabin--the oldest standing homestead in Estill County. I was unable to be present due to work obligations. I understand that some Cobb and McKinney descendants were also present. I am the author of two Park Family History books and would love to correspond with any of you are in my Park and Cobb lines as shown below: My PARK Line: Dr. Roger Parke, Sr. (1648-1739) & Anne Pattison (8th GGPs) John Parke I (1676-1757)& Sarah Smith (1675-1759) (7th GGPs) John Park II (1707-1758)& Mary Davis (1710-1771) (6th GGPs) **Ebenezer Park, Sr. (1747-1839) & Tabitha Mills (1752-1826)(5th GGPs) John Park (1773-1828) & Mary (Polly) Peeler (1774-1855) (4th GGPs) Jonah Park (1806-1884) & Melinda McMonigle (1810-1862) (3rd GGPs) John McMonigle Park (1827-1901) & Martha Cobb (1835-1911) (2GGPs) William Henry Park I (1860-1932) & Eleanor Simpson (1865-1944) (GGP) William Holton Park (1900-1980) & Elveree Durham (1911-1989) (GP) William Henry Park II (1930- ) & Frances T. Bell (1932-) (P) William Douglas Park (1959-) & Pamela Rae Long (1959- ) (Me) My COBB Line: Baronet Henry Cobb (1561-1617) & Pleasance Reddwood (9th GGP) Henry Cobb I (1596-1679) & Sarah Hinckley (1629- )(8th GGP) Samuel Cobb (1654-1727) & Elizabeth Taylor (1655-1721) (7th GGP) Henry Cobb II (1686- ) & Jemima Morse (1706- )(6th GGP) Henry Cobb III (1737-1794) & Deborah Reed (5th GGP) **Jesse Cobb, Sr. (1769-1836) & Edith Oldham (1773-1836) (4th GGP) Richard Cobb, Sr. (1818-1900) & Mary Minerva Park (1822-1909), (3rd GGP) Richard Cobb, Jr. (1860-1931) & Tabitha Taylor Phelps (1862-1938) (2nd GGP) Minerva “Mamee” Cobb (1886-1974) & Milton J. Durham (1883-1966) (GGP) Elveree Collins Durham (Dolly) (1911-1989) & William Holton Park (1900-1980) (GP) William Henry Park II. (1930- ) & Frances Theresa Bell (1932- )(P) *William Douglas Park (Myself) (1959- ) & Pamela Rae Long (1959- ) (Me) Thank you in advance for your assistance and for allowing me to be a part of this list family! Sincerely, William "Doug" Park 104 Rodeo Dr. Hurricane, WV 25526 (304) 562-4412

Trying to locate birth, death and marriage information as well as burial place on William Adkinson (ca 1840-1881) and spouse Winnie E. Gentry (ca 1842 - ?) marriage ca 1862. Also any information on their children if any. Thanks in advance, Loraine Ertelt [email protected] Willis TX

Dear fellow Researchers Although I am descended from William Harris and Temperance Overton through their son, later called Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA and at times of Albemarle Co., VA, I believe ALL of us are skating on VERY thin ice when we give an earlier Robert Harris and his alleged wife ... Claiborne Rice as our even earlier ancestors. A study has been made of the alleged daughters of William Claiborne, and this statement about a daughter being married first to a Rice [an extremely common name in Virginia and in North Carolina] and secondly to a Harris has been found wanting in sound evidence. A recent family history of the Claiborne family, edited by John Frederick Dorman, the publisher of the Virginia Genealogist and well-respected genealogist, has a footnote to the effect that there is no proof that a Claiborne daughter married Robert Harris. Furthermore, other writings examine the possibity of such a marriage. I believe, but my memory here is faulty, that although one Claiborne daughter lived to maturity, the second daughter died rather young. I am certain that if anyone can find a document which confirms a marriage between the so-called immigrant Robert Harris [even his existence is called into question] and a Claiborne daughter, a good many amateur genealogist, of whom I am one, will be well pleased. But, please, some documentation!!!! E.W.Wallace descendant of Major Robert Harris through his son Christopher of Albemarle Co. & Madison Co., KY

Hi I am interested in find out information for a Louise/Liza Newton - that could have been her married name, or her maiden name, I am not sure. Birth date for Liza is Feb somewhere between 1828 and 1834 She had a daughter born June 1845-48 in Madison Co., Ky. Margaret went by the names of Anna and Peggy. Liza later married a William Taylor and lived in the Dayton, Ohio area. She [Anna] hooked up with a William Moore after the Civil War. William was a married man. She had 3 children with William, Charles, b. 1870 in KY, John b. 1872 in Indiana and Joe b. 1875 in Ohio. Thank you. (mailto:[email protected])

In my message to the Madison Co. list, I cut and pasted from my notes, and some info got garbled. A line in the first paragraph reads [mistakenly] Charles Williams (d. ca 1819, Granville co.), is said to have been married to Bartlett Searcy. What should have been written: A reported Williams daughter, Lucy, is said to have married Bartlett Searcy in or around Granville Co. NC. No marriage bond has been located in published accounts of Granville Co. NC. E.W.Wallace

Someone has asked a question or two about the Searcy family of early Kentucky. Here are some of my notes. Each statement, if a source is not given, should be confirmed by further research into records of Madison Co., Ky and of Granville Co., NC. I have a few more notes if you are interested. There is an early Searcy family in colonial Hanover Co., VA, but I cannot say they are linked. So many of Hanover Co. records have been destroyed. Land patents are probably one of the more reliable sources for Hanover Co. and perhaps Louisa Co. of the colonial era. Reported children of Bartlett Searcy: Samuel, John, Richard, Charles, Reub;en, Robert, Anderson, Levicy, William Williams, Sally (From an e-mail received in 2001) Preparer: E. W. Wallace Rev Aug 1998 Added to 8/2004 BARTLETT SEARCY. (1730?-1784 KY) The Williams family of Nutbush Creek area of colonial Granville Co., NC is said to have been related to the Searcys of the same county. Lucy Williams, sister of the four brothers, John Williams, Esq. (d. Granville Co., NC ca 1799), William Williams (d. at Boonesborough, Dec 1775) Nathaniel Williams (d. ca 1831, Granville Co. NC WB 12-41), and Charles Williams (d. ca 1819, Granville co.), is said to have been married to Bartlett Searcy. This maiden name for Lucy has not been confirmed, and there seem to be no evidences of gifts of deed or purchase deeds between Bartlett Searcy and wife Lucy and the extended Williams family of Nutbush Creek area. Lucy is said to be the daughter of John (2nd gen) Williams Sr. (formerly of Goochland Co., later of Granville Co.). (This has not been verified. Deeds and court records of Granville Co. fail to link the Searcy family and the Williams family.) This information about Lucy's maiden name comes from Alvahn Holmes in SOME FARRAR'S ISLAND DESCENDANTS (1979) (SL film 1033635). She quotes from a family Bible of Dr. William Farrar Henderson, a son of Judge Leonard Henderson, whose wife was Frances Farrar. (Source: Dec 1992 letter from F. R.N, Tucson, AZ, now deceased.) There is evidence in Granville Co. will abstracts compiled by author Zae Hargett Gwynn that one John Searcy, whose will was proved Feb Court 1787 had several sons, one of whom was Bartlett Searcy. The other children were William (deceased by 1783, when the will was made); John; Mary Reardon; Susanna Hayes; Reuben, Elizabeth, Sarah Linsey, and Richard Searcy. (WB 2-1). In the tax list of 1769, Granville Co., NC were these Searcys: John, Sr., John, Jr; Bartlett, and Reuben. Bartlett declared 1 white, 1 black. See John, Sr.'s biography. In 1771 in Granville Co., Bartlet Searcy and wife, Lucy, deeded property to Thomas Wiggins, 28 Oct 1771. (Zae Hargett Gwynn, KINFOLKS OF GRANVILLE CO., NC). See biography of Reuben Searcy, whose first wife was Susannah Henderson. The Searcys, particularly Reuben, was a frequent bondsman for the Williams and Henderson marriages; however, he was a county official. Note that John Williams, Esq. (of Granville Co., NC), Lucy's presumed brother, and Reuben Searcy were co-executors of Bartlett Searcy, whose will was probated in Madison Co., KY. Reuben held several county offices, including county clerk and constable. Note to Searcy researchers: I have a few other notes on Bartlett Searcy, but this is NOT my direct line. When studying a common surname, one has to study all the neighbors, and the Searcys were in Hanover Co. ca 1730s and later in Granville Co. NC, both places where the Williams family had/did reside.. Here are a few other comments: Lucy was left a widow, and she and her children remained in Kentucky. The Madison Co. deed books have many land records executed by Lucy and her sons, and I suggest a serious researcher should study those deeds, as they state some relationships. Apparently, Granville co. NC court records list Bartlett Searcy (May 6, 1778) as a Capt. who was qualified. (Source: Thomas McAdory Owen, HISTORY AND GENEALOGIES OF OLD GRANVILLE COUNTY, NC, 1746-1800) After one has conducted research in Madison Co., KY on this particular Searcy family, it may well pay the SERIOUS researcher to buy or interlibrary loan many of the books which have been compiled about Granville Co., NC. But please ignore much of what Worth S. Ray wrote about Granville Co., NC as he came to many conclusions which cannot be verified!!!! (I will provide those who inquire with a list of suggested books on colonial Granville co. NC. This was the home of Col. Richard Henderson, the speculator behind Boonesborough.) By the way, I have fairly well confirmed that the Joseph Williams who married Sally Searcy, Lucy's daughter, is a brother of the first wife of Richard *Ready-Money* Oldham--her name was Ursley Duke Williams (the widow of Reuben Peoples of Caswell Co., NC) Many of these folks--some Williamses and all the Oldhams of Madison Co. (not those of Jefferson Co., KY)--came from Caswell Co., NC. 1795 - Caswell Co., NC DB L-22-23 Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY, to Israel Barker of Orange Co., NC, for 20 pds., 100 A on Ridge fork adj Barker. Wit: Nathan Williams, Eli Stacy. (Nathan Williams was another son of Henry Williams, deceased.) (Katherine Kerr Kendall, Deeds of Caswell Co. - not the exact title.) E.W.Wallace

Does anyone have Searcy's from the 1790+1800 tax lists of Madison Co (to replace the lost census) Tx Cindy Holsapple-Boone

Dear Sue and other subscribers living in big cities, I did a google.com search for Oklahoma City + public library and came up with the website for the OC PL. You are in luck--I think. Oklahoma City has a genealogy online database called HeritageQuest, but you must have a valid (not expired) library card with a number on it. HeritageQuest has online many of the US censuses on it, plus some digitized books. some Revolutionary war pension records [selected] PERSI [an index to a LOT of genealogical periodicals from around the country], etc. When you renew your card, ask for some instructions about how to use HeritageQuest, particularly the browse part. Also ask for any census indexes [published ones, and photocopy the 1850 indexes for your surnames, if available.] Now--to Madison Co., KY - many of my people came to that area, enticed no doubt by the land speculation called Boonesborough. Oh, yes, my friends, there is a book on HeritageQuest called Boonesborough, if I remember correctly. The author is Ranck. My people came from three places [Kentucky became a state in 1792, and prior to that it was part of Virginia}. Those places were North Carolina, particularly Northern North Carolina [Tennessee was part of NC until about 1796] Virginia and, in some instances, from Pennsylvania but through North Carolina in many instances. No doubt some adventuresome folks came from elsewhere, but were I you I would concentrate on searching those three places. Because the 1790 census for Virginia seems to be among the missing, a couple of wonderful ladies compiled the so-called 1787 Census of Virginia. The 1787 Census of Virginia, as far as I have been able to determine, is not on the internet. I believe it is still under copyright. It was compiled by Nettie Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love of Virginia. There are three hefty volumes, the third volume being the index to the first two volumes. In some ways, this census, which are lists of personal property (not real estate) is broken down by Virginia counties [ a few are missing]. This census may lead you to the origins of your Kentucky people. As stated, not everyone came from Virginia, but the likelihood is GREAT. And besides these personal property tax lists list several counties in Kentucky, including Madison Co., KY. One must study the INDEX thoroughly--photocopy the pages with your surnames even if they are common. Then you need to check EVERY instance where your surname appears. Why? Because, you may find your ancestor, even if he had a common surname, had personal property in at least two jurisdictions. One of my early families in Madison Co. held property in two jurisdictions: Albemarle Co., VA and in Madison Co., which later became Kentucky. So--I discovered that as early as 1787, he was already making a move [with most of his 19 children by two wives] to Kentucky. With luck, once in a while you will find in the Kentucky (and elsewhere) deed books a power of attorney which your ancestor is giving to someone out of state to conduct some business affairs for him. DO NOT OVERLOOK the deed indexes--both grantor and grantee, and for Madison Co., they are typewritten and alphabetized. Teach yourself to read deed indexes--and then deeds--even if you have to go to your local courthouse and learn there. (I just attended an all-day lecture about the valuable use of land records in your research. This is not useful for New Englanders, but for others, this resource may be your most valuable resource.) (Amazing how these deed indexes may differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. I was familiar with the deed indexes for Madison Co., KY, as they have been filmed by the Family History Library in Salt Lake City and I have them on permanent loan at my LARGE FHC. However, on a personal visit to Clark Co., KY a few years ago, I leanred that one has to use an index to use the index!!! I had never run into that before, and I have read indexes from California to Virginia, stopping in Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana--oh, yes, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, etc.) Anyone who lives in a big city should start research at his local library--the main one, and snoop around to local histories, etc. Most will deny they have genealogical collections, but they are there. You just have to be clever and think outside the box!!! Look for immigration records and emigration records, local histories, military histories, ethnic histories, etc. And be sure to ask about HeritageQuest. If this is not available through your local library--or a library in a nearby county, where you may have to pay a fee--go to the website of the Godfrey Memorial Library, which welcomes your $35 subscription, which entitles you to a year's worth of library card!!! Happy hunting! E.W.Wallace

Sue The question you raise that was precipitated by the TODD/DOUGLASS "connection" cited in the message from Doug is a "golden" opportunity to remind we "seekers" that ALL information acquired from other than "primary" documents/sources should be VERIFIED before we "make it ours". Information gleaned from an old TODD family bible indicates that John & Martha (Patsy) COLLIER TODD did indeed have a son William b. 4 Nov 1802. It also indicated he died 24 Dec 1802. In any case it's highly improbable that he would have been the William TODD that married Jane DOUGLASS in Madison County KY on 12 Jan 1804 (according to Vockery's compilation of Madison County marriages- a "secondary" source is as "error free" as any I've ever seen) when he would have been barely 14 MONTHS old had he lived that long. Doug is to be applauded for his efforts to aid Erma and others researching these lines, but my point is that these "leads" are places to START and not an end product. Even though I don't consider myself "old" (I'm sure that my grandchildren would disagree) and others have been doing this type of research for much longer than my 25-30 years, there are some things that I have learned. The internet is a really great tool to more easily share what we have and it enables us to go places and find things that would take a lot longer and cost a lot more if we filled up the family vehicle with fuel and started a nationwide courthouse, graveyard, library & archive tour to find what we needed. But it has a "downside" as well! In 10 years of internet use I have discovered that "misinformation" has a "half-life" similar to U-235 uranium and it's seemingly as difficult to keep stored and "non-polluting" as that stuff in those deep holes in Nevada. Doug is probably going to think I'm picking on him if I cite the long ago de-bunked Richard (Bland?) Lee of Madison County/Hancock Lee connection as an example but the point is whether it's Doug or Erma or ME or any other secondary source that's providing the info... QUESTION! EXAMINE! VERIFY! I assure you that if I send you any substantial amount of data it's almost certainly not error free and some of it is probably shaped by opinion and assumption and experience. It would certainly merit a critical look before it becomes a "fact". I've stepped too close to the edge and fell off my soapbox.....so just let me say if anyone wants to compare notes on Joel or John TODD and their families I'd be happy to do so. -- Darwin Newton Cambridge KS 67023 [email protected]

Hi! I'm the editor/publisher of Paint Lick Reflections. I checked that issue/page and it's actually a short query from Gary Hunt Jr. I'll be happy to share it by e-mail if you haven't been in touch with him already. Rita Fox paintlickreflections.com [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Doug Park - Park Family Historian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MADKY-L] RE: Paint Lick Reflections Magazine - Nancy Ruth Lee (Todd) Importance: High Erma, In an Autumn 2003 issue (#7) of Paint Lick Reflections quarterly magazine, there is an article on your Nancy Ruth Lee (Todd) on page p. 37. I don't have this issue, but you can order back-issues from them. Possibly there are clues as to where her husband Joel Todd was laid to rest? http://www.paintlickreflections.com/index.html Doug Park Hurricane, WV -----Original Message----- From: Erma N. Herrmann [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Cemetery Hello, I've not posted here and now have a question. Is there someone on this list that lives close to Kingston, Madison, KY.? I have just found a note in among old correspondence. It has a sentence that says my 3rd Great Grandfather Joel Todd was buried in the Kingston, Madison, KY. cemetery. His dates are: b: 8 March 1799 (some say 1802), in Madison Co., d: just abt. Sept. 1886, in/near Berea, KY. He was married 1822, Madison Co., to Nancy Ruth Lee, dau. of Richard Lee of the Paint Lick Creek Community. What I'm asking is if there is someone who can check this for me? I live in San Jose, CA. and will not able to get to Madison Co. again for at least a couple of yrs. All help appreciated!!! Thanks, Erma ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== Madison Co. KYGenWeb Page - http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymadiso/madison.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.9/72 - Release Date: 8/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.9/72 - Release Date: 8/14/2005

Doug, Do you have any additional information on Alexander W DOUGLASS and Jane MOORE? Their son William Henry DOUGLASS married Isabella LAUGHLIN, daughter of Henry and Margaret LAUGHLIN, 21 November 1799 in Madison County. Henry and Margaret are my 5g grandparents. I have been unable to locate them before their arrival in KENTUCKY. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Sue Sullivan Oklahoma City John TODD (Caleb TODD1) was born 25 MAY 1773 in Easton, Northhampton Co., PENNSYLVANIA, and died 15 APR 1839 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. He married Martha (Patsy) COLLIER 14 OCT 1797 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY, daughter of John COLLIER and Mildred CARY. She was born 16 JAN 1782, and died 18 MAY 1846 in Madison Co., KENTUCKY. Children of John TODD and Martha (Patsy) COLLIER are: 5 iv. William TODD was born 4 NOV 1802, and died 24 DEC . He married Jane DOUGLASS, daughter of Alexander W DOUGLASS and Jane MOORE.

I have five pages of typed information collected from the Madison County Courthouse by Mrs. Nelda Paul in March 1956. She states that she has photostatic copies of three or four items she found there. She doesn't say if all the information came from photostatic copies or whether she wrote them by hand while there. My interests lie with the Williams, Todd, Stultz, and Fowler families who are all connected in some way. She did not type all the information she found there on these sheets. There must be much more concerning these families in the records at the Courthouse. Does anyone know who Mrs. Paul was? Abraham Williams was her great grandfather. Maxine