Dear Cathea, I have taken the liberty of cutting and pasting your query into the Harris-Hunters list and the Madison co., KY list. Why? Because someone on one or both of those lists may have more information than I do about your Christopher Harris. Maybe you can post some other events which occurred in his life--like the name of his first wife, and the names of his children. I have no knowledge of Harrises in Pulaski Co., KY although I had some relatives who later married into the Harris family at a later date--Stoner was their name. But the Stoners were in a part of Pulaski which became Wayne Co. Here is your query: Hi fellow Harris searcher Do either of you have any information on a Christopher Harris who married Rhoda Hudson on 18 Jan 1823 in Pulaski Co KY? The name Wm Carter is on the marriage index maybe as surety. (?) We believe this was the 2nd marriage of Christopher. I know you specialize in the Madison Co Harris' but we believe our Pulaski Co Harris' are an offshoot of the Madison Co Harris'. thanks for any help you can give. Cathea (Cat) Curry [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) This is my suggestion: You may have to do as I was advised to do a number of years ago when I was trying to help sort out two men of Revolutionary era in adjoining NC counties who had an unusual name for the time and the place. The DAR staff genealogist told me I had to do this to help the applicant: 1. Determine on which watercourse the families were located. (This is the way we have to do early Southern research--even as late as when the Model-T Ford was beginning to make inroads.) 2. Determine who his associates were. Neighbors, in-laws, who the kids married, etc. Fortunately, I had a list of the children's marriages, so I concentrated on the names of the sons-in-law. They had to be hanging around the neighborhood for the girls to meet them. (Roads were poor, there were no streetlights, and one was lucky to have a wheeled carriage of any sort. Besides one could not carouse all night when you were expected to do farm work the next day. I know my Christopher Harris, who died testate ca 1798 in Madison Co., KY, had a son named Chrsitopher, but I don't believe Chris II migrated elsewhere. Chris II, as I understand it, became a Baptist preacher. I think he officiated at quite a few Madison Co., marriages. Perhaps Ira can help you. I do not have a great deal of time to do research for myself lately--family illnesses, etc. If you are near an LDS family history center, you probably could order a film of a kind of history of many of the families of Madison Co. authored by a fellow named William Harris Miller. The shortened name is Genealogies and Histories--- The title is much longer because it encompasses MANY families of that area. Much of the Harris material is correct. Some of the other material is incorrect. Too bad Mr. Miller, who married into the Harris family, if I remember correctly, did not go to the county courthouse and do some research before he lumped a whole bunch of Oldham families together. Search the FHL catalog (online) for the full name of the author--William Harris Miller--else, you will be staring at the catalog for a long time!!! Sorry I don't have time to help you sort out your Harrises. One lecture I attended recently emphasized that for those of us doing Southern research, we HAVE to use land records. That is how you find the answers to the questions which the DAR genealogist suggested. Unfortunately, I see that Pulaski had some destruction of some of its records. Take a peek at Wayne Co. records, many of which have been transcribed and published lately.

In a message dated 9/26/2005 1:04:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck's wonderful book entitled Revolutionary War Bound Land Grants Awarded by State Governments (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1996). What was the price of this book? Any estimate or idea? Ellie S.

Jim Hecht wrote, Another reason for migration after the Revolution was that the Continental Army paid off their soldiers with land vouchers rather than cash--certificates which could be redeemed for a specified amount of public land (number of acres varied with the rank of the veteran), and these public lands were typically located west of the Appalachians in TN and KY. After receiving a certificate, veterans could either sell the certificate or move to western lands and settle there. Many sold out, which is how the Watauga company, headed by the Henderson family in Granville County, wound up owning a huge tract in KY, enough that they sent a young explorer, Daniel Boone, to survey and prepare the land for settlers. Comment: Jim is quite right. However, I am going to correct some of his comments. Virginia also granted land in Ohio and Indiana, according to Lloyd D. Bockstruck's book, info below. North Carolina awarded land in Tennessee, or tried to. This subject of *bounty land* for Revolutionary soldiers (and presumably sailors, et al) is covered in the 21 page or so Introduction of Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck's wonderful book entitled Revolutionary War Bound Land Grants Awarded by State Governments (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1996). He breaks down each of the colonies (I think) and explains their policies for awarding land to participants in the American Revolution. This book is well worthwhile trying to find in your genealogical library. If possible, try to interlibrary loan it, especially if you have Revolutionary War ancestors. About the Watauga Company I cannot speak with any authority. However, I do believe it and Boonesborough (in present-day Madison Co., Kentucky) are covered in a long-ago book published by the Filson Club [now called Filson Historical Society] by an author named George W. Ranck about Boonesborough. Boonesborough was being established before the American Revolution broke out. In fact, one of my direct ancestors of Granville Co., NC wrote his will in December 1775 as he lay dying. He was a first cousin of Colonel Richard Henderson, and his older brother was Henderson's agent. All the partners were from North Carolina, but many with Virginia roots. (No Harrises that I recall!) Henderson's plans to set up Transylvania Colony (13th colony, some say a kingdom or a proprietary) were interrupted by the outbreak of the Revolution in Massachusetts. There were many court fights about this land speculation by Henderson. I believe the upshot was something like this. Virginia awarded so many acres in what is now Kentucky, principally Henderson Co., KY and the counties formed from Henderson Co. North Carolina awarded part of Tennessee to Henderson. Henderson is credited with establishing Nashville which he called Nashborough, if memory serves. Do a google.com search for Transylvania Colony. There is a short paragraph on Encarta, and probably more which I did not bother with. In a series of books called Calendar of Virginia state papers and other manuscripts (also at University libraries, but some volumes filmed by the Family History Center in Salt Lake City) are some court records of the hearings about awarding Henderson the land which Virginia had claimed. Some interesting depositions by people who participated in Henderson's scheme(s). There is an old paperback book about some of the earliest days in Kentucky by the white man, still being published I believe. It is called The Frontiersmen by Allan W. Eckert, and much of it is based on the Draper Manuscripts, held by the Historical Society of Wisconsin. The Eckert book is still for sale on Amazon and also on e-bay. The North Carolina State Papers and the North Carolina Colonial Papers (large volumes, generally in University libraries) have some of Henderson's correspondence replicated. Most interesting. I beleive these have been microfiched by the FHL in Salt Lake City. E.W.Wallace

Hello Everyone, I received this message from another genealogy list. If any of you have friends or relatives who cannot evacuate the hurricane area, you might want to get in touch with them TODAY and set up a plan of communication for after the storm. << A friend who is living in Spring, Texas who is having to stay there through this storm just contacted me. We have made arrangements for her to send me via e-mail TODAY a list of her friends and relatives who will worry about she and her husband when they loose electricity and probably telephone contact with the outside world. She will do everything in her power to contact us so that we can notify the people on her list. Please everyone who is in that area please do the same so that there is as little confusion as possible when this storm is over. If you need someone to do this for you we would be willing to be your contact point. Please feel free to cross post this to other genealogy lists. Judie Dunkle >> Have your friends or relatives send you a list TODAY of people to contact. After the storm passes, your friends or relatives can contact you as soon as possible (there will be internet service available at shelters) and you, in turn, can let their list of people know that they are okay. I'll also volunteer to be contact point for anyone that wants to do this. If you want to email me a list, feel free - I'll also be glad to provide my phone number and/or "snail mail" address (if the mail hasn't been stopped already) if you contact me privately. If you want to send this on to other genealogy lists, be sure to ask permission of the List Administrator before you post it. God be with everyone and keep them safe. Sherri - List Mom

Trying to sort out Harrises of colonial Virginia and of Virginia's sister state, Kentucky, is a lifetime job. We are not always successful in our efforts. Here some notes which may help established the identity of one Harris female. I have not read the full recorded will, which is abstracted below. LUCY HARRIS. (Living in 1792) Lucy Harris, wife of Higgason Grubbs of Madison Co., KY, was the child of James Harris and his wife Mary Harris, the latter a daughter of Major Robert Harris of Louisa and Albemarle Cos., VA. This is according to page 526 of Hazel A. Spraker in The Boone Family. Lucy Grubbs's identity is confirmed in the Albemarle Co., VA will of her father: Harris, James 5 Feb 1792 Sept 1792 Sons: Thomas, Joel, James, Nathan. Daughters: Ann Haden, Mourning Maupin, Sarah Harrison, Susannah Burnley and Lucy Grubbs. Wife Mary Harris, all land not bequeathed to son Thomas Harris, land adjoining Capt. Robert Harris, dec'd. Exrs: sons Joel and James. Wit: B. Brown and William Spears (Page 165) (J. Estelle Stewart King, ABSTRACTS OF WILLS, INVENTORIES, AND ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY 1748-1800 [Beverly Hills, CA 1940], p. 38) Lucy and her husband Higgason Grubbs appear in some of the first court order books of Madison Co., KY, as early as 1789 before Kentucky became a state. Refer to Family History Library film 183,274 Lucy was of age to marry in 1790. Source Information KY MARR RECS, p. 92 . Research, Acc., UT, Orem ........ LUCY HARRIS II. We do not know the identity of Lucy Harris II, who married William Jones 1 Feb 1790, Madison Co., KY, Christopher Harris, bondsman. There is no doubt a relationship, but we do not know what it is. Refer to Christopher's will which does not mention a Lucy Jones as a daughter. We beliee the bondsman is the younger Christopher Harris, as the elder Christopher was now deceased. Question: Did any of James Harris's sons migrate to Kentucky? If so, which county or counties? E.W.Wallace

Ira Harris III of the Harris-Hunters list has asked about Barnabas Harris. I have a few notes, but not much definitive information. I am under the impression he died relatively young. Deeds of Madison Co., KY may reveal some information. Here are my scattered notes: BARNABAS HARRIS. Son of Chrisopher Harris I of Madison Co., KY, earlier of Albemarle Co., VA. His birthdate of Sep 1779, apparently unconfirmed, is taken from DAR application 598925. Birthdates of his siblings and most of the marriages are given, indicating the applicant MAY have used a Bible record. William A. LaBach, a descendant of Overton Harris, brother of Barnabas, has given a birthdate of 1 Oct 1779, a small difference. He is reported to have been the brother of Overton Harris (d. 1827 testate in Madison Co., KY), and like Overton, he married a daughter of Richard "Ready Money" Oldham and his first wife, Ursala (Ursley) Williams (the widow Peoples). Barnabas married Elizabeth Oldham ca. 1803, but he predeceased her, and she subsequently married a Mr. Clark, it is said. The marriage bond in Madison Co.: Barmabas Harris & Elizabeth Oldham, 18 Apr 1803; Samuel Harris, bondsman; Richard Oldham, father of bride. Return 19 Apr 1803. He was married to Elizabeth Oldham, and his brother Overton married her sister Nancy Oldham ca 1810. Elizabeth Oldham probably is the same person who married a Clark but seemingly is a widow by March 1845 when she joined the other heirs of Richard Ready-Money Oldham in selling the property they had inherited. See Madison Co. DB 4-249. Barnabas is not in 1810 census index. He is not in 1840 MO index. Does anyone on the Madison Co. list have information concerning Elizabeth (Oldham) Clark? E.W.Wallace

Barnabas Harris,(s/o one of the Christopher Harris' of Madison County, Kentucky), and his wife, Elizabeth Oldham, (d/o Richard Oldham and his wife Ursley Williams), supposedly had eight or so children. Can anyone give me the names of their children? Any help would be appreciated. Please respond through HH or MADKY so that others may be helped. Ira L. Harris III Evansville, Indiana

These notes may help some Harris-Hunters. SARAH HARRIS II. Daughter of Christopher Harris I of Albemarle Co, VA and of Madison Co., KY. She is named as Sarah Martin in Christopher Harris's will of 1794. She was still living at the time her husband James Martin wrote his will, 5 Jul 1796. The husband's will was not probated until Mar 1799, Madison Co., KY. Sarah apparently approved the inventory and appraisement of the estate of James Martin, deceased. 22 Mar 1799. Madison Co. KY Book of Wills, appraisments, inventories (Vol. A-p.196-198) "Inventory and appraisement of the estate of James Martin, deceased. 22 Mar 1799. Negroes: Apper, Sarah, Jack, Bob, Mary, Rolin, Ann, Venus, Riller and child Sarah. Appraisers: Thos. Clay, Edward Turner, Robert Moore, Oswald Turner. Signed: Sarah (her mark) Martin. Executors: William Martin, Tyree Martin, Robert Martin. 2 Jul 1799 inventory returned and ordered to be recorded." (Anna Joy Hubble, ABSTRACTS OF MADISON COUNTY KENTUCKY WILL BOOK "A" [Whitefish, MT: Published by author, 1983]) Refer to biography of James Martin, whose will lists his children, some of whom bore forenames of older Harris males, such as Sarah's father Christopher, her grandfather Robert, her great-grandfather William and her brother Tyree. Sarah's birthdate, apparently unconfirmed, is taken from DAR application 598925. The birthdates of her siblings and most of their marriages are given, indicating the applicant MAY have used a Bible record. Two marriages are given for her: 1st) James Martin 2nd) George Jones. Her sister Mary was also reportedly married to George Jones, but we do not the sequence of the marriages for George Jones. Could he have been Mary Harris's husband? Another correspondent says she married after 1799 to William M. Jones. The name of a George Webb Jones, father of the bride, is found in early marriages of Madison Co., KY. A George Jones appears on the 1792 tax list of Madison Co., as does a George Wall [could this be Webb] Jones. Edward Fowler & Lucinda Jones, 13 May 1797; Foster Jones, bondsman; George Webb Jones, father of bride. (Foster Jones was married to Mourning Harris, sister of Sarah Harris.) Refer to bio notes for Sarah's husband James Martin. (B. & K. Vockery, MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGE RECORDS, V. I, p. 29) Sarah's reported children by James Martin (unknown source: e-mail) 1. Azariah Martin, Jr., b. 1764; d. 15 April 1834, Rockcastle Co., KY 2. William Martin, b. 1765; m. Winifred Gentry 20 Jan 1788, Madison Co. 3. Christopher Columbus Martin, b. 1767 Amherst Co., VA; d. 6 Nov 1819, Christian Co., KY 4. David Martin, b. 1768; m. Sally Turner, 5 Sept 1792, Madison Co., KY; d. ca 1801 As can be determined from both the will of James Martin and the inventory and appraisement of the estate, there were other sons: Tyree Martin and Robert Martin. In Madison Co., Tyree Martin married Mourning Jones, bond 21 Feb 1798, his probable cousin. Tyree H. Jones was bondsman, Mourning's probable brother; Foster Jones, father of the bride, gave consent. Also, Robert Martin married Polly Noland, 12 Jan 1799; James Hopper, bondsman. .............................................................................. .................................................. Here is some information about the husband of Sarah (Harris) Martin. Aug 2003 - Look in Harris folder for more children of Sarah Harris & James Martin [Jr.] Not completely listed here!!! (Anna Joy Hubble, ABSTRACTS OF MADISON COUNTY KENTUCKY WILL BOOK "A" [Whitefish, MT: Published by author, 1983]) See research notes. 01/06/02 Rev Dec 2002 Edited Feb 2003 2003 Feb - Have I confused two James Martins??? JAMES MARTIN, JR. 3943 He is reported to be the son of James Martin and Elizabeth Crawford. He is said to have been born ca 1 May 1730 in Goochland Co., VA and died about 1799 in Madison Co., KY. Sarah reportedly remarried after his death to William M. Jones--. He was first (?) husband of Sarah Harris and thus a son-in-law of Christopher Harris of Albemarle Co., VA and later of Madison Co., KY. Martin died a few years after his father-in-law died. His will was written in 1796 and proved in 1799, probably in Madison Co., KY. The abstract reads: "To son, Azariah, land partly in Clark Co.; son, Christopher, land in Clark; son, David, land in Clark; three sons, Wm., Tyree, Robert, tract bought of Laurence Thompson; son, Wm.; sons, Hudson and Nathan; wife, Sarah; grandson, David, son of son James, deceased; son-in-law, Pleasant Proffitt and his wife Mary. Extrs: wife and sons, Wm., Tyree, and Robt. Written July 5, 1796. Wts: Jas French, Green Clay. Probated Mar 1799." (Mrs. William Breckenridge Ardery, KENTUCKY COURT AND OTHER RECORDS, V. II [Baltimore: GPC, 1979], p. 66) From this will, it is deduced James Martin was at least 45 years of age, and probably older, as two of his children had married and he had a grandson--David Martin, son of a deceased son, James. From this will, we can deduce that the children of Martin and his wife Sarah Harris were: Azariah [Clark Co.] Christopher [Clark Co.] David [Clark Co.] William ) Tyree ) "land I bought of Lawrence Thompson by a bond on J Crow Robert ) Hudson ) Nathan ) these 2--land where I now live after death of my wf Sarah James (deceased) Mary - wife of Pleasant Profitt Executors: Sarah & 3 sons: William, Tyree & Robert (Pleasant Profit married Mary Martin 17 Dec 1792 in Madison Co., KY; Thomas Turner, bondsman. [Vockery & Vockery, Vo. 1, p. 67)) Martin was probably from Albemarle Co. where two Martin males were Captains, probably of the militia, during the Revolutionary War, according to Gwathmey: John Martin and Thomas Martin. (John H. Gwathmey, TWELVE VIRGINIA COUNTIES WHERE THE WESTWARD MIGRATION BEGAN [Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1981], p. 429) A James Martin, as well as one William Martin, is one of the signers of a petition to divide the county of Lincoln [Kentucky, but then Virginia] into three counties, Lincoln, Mercer and Madison. 1786. Granted. Many of the signers of this petition were at Boonesboro, states the compiler. (Katherine Phelps Caperton, "A Partial List of Those at Fort Boonesborough," in THE REGISTER OF THE KENTUCKY STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, VOL. 23, p. 152 [renumbered, it seems, from original].) James Marton [sic] appears on the 1792 tax list of Madison Co., KY. These Martins appear on the 1787 tax list of Madison Co.: Azariak [Azariah]; James; John. Only Benjamin Martin appears on the 1788 tax list of Madison Co. Only Bowling Martin appears on the 1789 tax list. These Martains [sic] appear on the 1790 tax list: Christopher, James, William. Only Benjamin Morton [sic] appears on the 1791 tax list. These persons with the surname or variant of Martin appear on the 1792 tax list: William Marten; Oney Marter [Martin?]; James Marton. For 1793, William Marton; Benjamin Morten. For 1794: John Martain; James Martin; William Martin; Archibald Marton. For 1795, the spelling seems to be more consistent. Archibald Martin, James Martin, John Martin, Richard Martin, William Martin; but Benjamin Morton (2X) For 1796, Archibald Martin, Benjamin Martin (2X), James Martin, William Martin. For 1797, Archibald, James, William with the surname spelled Martin. Benjamin Morton is again listed twice. For 1799, these Martins are listed: Archibald, Azh., Robert, Sarah, Tyree. (This may indicate that James is deceased, and his widow Sarah is listed, but she may be exempt because of widowhood.) These marriages took place in Madison Co., KY and probably are those of some of James Martin's children: Christopher Martin m. Anny Turner ca 25 Jan 1790, Edward Turner bondsman. David Martin m. Sally Turner ca 5 Sep 1792, Randolph Simms bondsman. William Martin m. Winney Gentry ca 2 Jan 1787, Richard Gentry bondsman. Tyree Martin m. Mourning Jones ca 21 Feb 1798; Tyree H. Jones, bondsman and Foster Jones, father of bride gave consent. (Mourning Jones was probably Tyree's first cousin as her mother was Mourning Harris, wife of Foster Jones). Robert Martin m. Polly Noland ca 12 Jan 1799, James Hopper, bondsman. Probable Son-in-Law Pleasant Profitt was a bondsman in 1805: Reuben Bellamy & Elizabeth Runnels. Pleasant Profitt & Mary Martin married in Madison Co. in 1792. Bond was issued 17 Dec and was returned 19 Dec 1792. Hudson Martin A Hudson Martin and a William Martin appear in the deeds of Amherst Co. ca 17828 (DB E-308). However, there is no indication that these are the sons of James Martin of Madison Co., KY, although they probably are related. Amherst Co. was formed from Albemarle Co., and it is almost certain that James Martin of Madison Co., KY and his wife Sarah Harris were of Albemarle Co. A James Martin purchased land in Albemarle Co. Mar 1746 from Jno. Chiswell and his wife Elizabeth; this James Martin of early Albemarle Co. was probably a predecessor relative of James Martin who died in Madison Co., KY. Azariah Martin This name is found in Amherst Co. deeds as late as 1803. He is doubtless a cousin of the Azariah Martin who probably is of Clark Co., KY. On 11/21.00 an e-mail correspondent wrote that a son of Tyree Martin and Mourning Jones was James Martin b. 1803 in Madison Co., KY who married Rachel Davis in Madison Co. Their dau. was Elvira Jean Martin, b 1838 in Boone Co., MO. She married Nathan T. Martin. Elivra's dau. was Nannie Rachel Martin (b. 1866 in Ashland, Boone Co., MO; she married 1888 George Edward Flood (b. 1848 in New Fulton, Calloway Co., MO) Their dau was Elvira Eugenia Flood, b. 1891 (my grandmother, says the correspondent). A list of the children of Sarah Harris and James Martin [Jr.] as provided by a descendant (not noted) were: Azariah Martin, Jr. 1764-15 Apr 1834, Rockcastle, KY. William Martin (1765-1841) m. Winifred Gentry, 20 Jan 1788, Madison Co., KY Christopher Columbus Martin (b. 1767 Amherst Co., VA; d. 6 Nov 1819, Christian Co., KY) David Martin (1768-d ca 1801) m. Sarah Turner, 5 Sep 1792, Madison Co., KY Submitted by E.W.Wallace

There seems to be some continuing interest in Mosias Jones [probably of several generations], of colonial Virginia, an associate of the extended Robert Harris family of colonial Louisa Co. and others later of Albemarle Co. and still later of Madison Co., KY. The Jones family intermarried with the Harris family in colonial Virginia. Note counties listed above. Here are some garbled notes which may help some persons of the Jones-Harris families to untangle SOME of their roots, the surname Jones being as difficult to research as is Harris. As noted, these are notes, and I have made little effort to place events chronologically. However, I believe the migration trail may be similar of that of the Harrises, which is noted in first paragraph. Of course, Louisa Co., VA was formed from Hanover Co., VA, a burned county. The Virginia land patents, which are on the Library of Virginia website, may help you find some Hanover Co. records--but do not overlook adjoining counties, such as Goochland and Henrico Cos. Submotted by E.W.Wallace William Jones who married Isabella Black in May or June 1805--is he widower of Lucy Harris> See marriage of 1 Feb 1790. Rev May 2004 FOSTER JONES. There is limited information concerning Foster Jones. In Vol. 7 of the Lineage Book of the Daughters of the American Colonists, p, 277, Foster Jones, husband of Mourning Harris (b. 1754) is said to have died 1814. No documentation is presented. (Lineage of Mrs. Virginia Field Walton Brooks, born in Jonesboro, Arkansas.) Their children, according to W. H. Miller in his Genealogies [long title but pertaining to families of Madison Co., KY Tyre Harris Jones Mosias Jones Nancy Jones Christopher Jones Elizabeth Jones* Lucy Jones Foster Jones appears sporadically on the tax lists of Madison Co.KY. On the tax list of 1794, he is labeled Fauster Jones. He appears on the tax lists for these years: 1790 1791 - not listed 1792 - not listed 1793 - not listed 1794 - Fauster Jones 1795 1796 1797 1798 - missing 1799 (Comment: When a person failed to pay his taxes in Kentucky, a researcher may find a comment in the court records, as genearlly the court triple-taxed for non-payment of taxes. However, if the land-owner owned property in another county, frequently an adjoining county, he seems to have had the privilege of paying his taxes in that county,which frequently adjoined the *home* county. Therefore, a search of adjoining counties and also the court records of the *home* county may provide additional information.) We believe Mourning Harris, his first (?) wife, may have died after the death of her father, Christopher Harris, the elder, who had named Mourning Jones in his will. On 21 Nov 1799, in Madison Co., KY, Foster Jones m. Margaret Black, Tyree Jones, bondsman. We believe Tryee Jones is the son of Foster Jones. Margaret Black apparently was a widow as later, in 1805, Foster Jones gave consent for Isabella Black who married William Jones; Margaret Jones was mother of the bride. These are some marriages of some of Foster Jones's children: Is Foster Jones father of Robert Jones, the groom? 1797 - Robert Jones on 24 Jan 1797 m. Margaret Black; Margaret Black, mother of bride; John Harris, bondsman. (Marriages of Madison Co.) 1798 - Tyree Martin m. Mounring Jones (his probable cousin); Tyree H. Jones, bondsman; Foster Jones, father of bride. (Vockery & Vockery, MADISON COUNTY KENTUCKY MARRIAGE RECORDS, VOL. 1, 1786-1822 [Richmond, KY: Published by compilers, 1993[, p. 52) Other marriages from above publication, various pages: 1799, 21 Nov - Foster Jones married Margaret Black; Tyree Jones, bondsman. Question: Had Mourning Harris Jones now died, and Foster Jones was marrying the mother-in-law of his son--the above named Margaret Black, the mother of Robert's bride of the same name? One finds instances of this kind of marriage, if one searches long enough. It appears that he did, as later in either May or June 1805, He Foster Jones gave consent as stepfather to the marriage of Isabella Black who married Wm. Jones; Margaret Jones was mother of the bride. Robert Jones was bondsman. Question: Had William Jones been married first to Lucy Harris in Feb 1790, at which marriage Christopher Harris was the bondsman? This may have been Christopher Harris, the son of the older Christopher Harris. 1797 Foster Jones was bondsman for this marriage: Edward Fowler & Lucinda Jones, Foster Jones, bondsman. George Webb Jones, father of bride. Two years later it appears Foster Jones married Margaret Black, widow. 1799 - Foster Jones m. Margaret Black, widow 21 Nov 1799; Tyre Jones, bondsman [his son?] 1805 - He, Foster Jones, gave consent as stepfather of Isabella Black who married Wm Jones, 3 May 1805; return 3 Jun 1805. (Q: Is Wm. Jones widower of Lucy Harris whom he married 1 Feb 1790? Christopher Harris bondsman.) ........ Foster Jones is shown as father of bride at the following marriage: Tyree Martin & Mourning Jones, 21 Feb 1798, Tyree H. Jones, bondsman; Foster Jones, father of bride. Bond returned 22 Feb 1798. (Tyree H. Jones is probably the bride's brother, and Tyree Martin is her probable first cousin. Other Martin bridegrooms during this time period who are probably related to Tyree Martin: Archibald (1789), Christopher (1790), David (1792), James (1788). (Conjecture) *The lineage book cited above shows Elizabeth Jones m in 1803. The groom seems have been to Greenberry Baxter (1778-1857) Nancy Jones (1778-1844) m. 1795 to Richard Sappington (1758-1810), according to Daughters of American Colonists Lineage Book, Vol. 7, page 150, lineage of Mrs. Virginia (Jennie) Pearl McKenzie Edwards, No. 6514. A partial list of Jones marriages of Madison Co., KY : Edward Fowler & Lucinda Jones, .... 1797... Foster Jones, bm., George Webb Jones, father of bride. According to an e-mail correspondent, Foster Jones had a sister named Lucy Jones who married Jesse Maupin. Also John Harris, son of Christopher Harris the elder and his 2nd wife Agnes McCord, married Margaret Maupin dau of John and Frances Dabney Maupin. The correspondent did not name her sources.

Hello List, I am researching the following names ..................................................................... Adams, Edwards, Hackworth, Holtzclaw, Littrell, Portwood, Rayburn, Spence, Tate Judy

Several persons on the Madison Co., KY rootsweb have been discussing Mosias Jones. Because at least one of Christopher Harris's daughters married a Jones, I have collected some material on an early Mosias Jones. If you use this material in your family histories, please cite the sources, as I have done. All respectable family histories are expected to *cite your sources.* My research teacher, in another field, said if your research cannot be replicated by someone else, then it is worthless. (Look up replicate.) E.W.Wallace Sep 2004 MOSIAS JONES. (d. 1808) There is limited information concerning Mosias Jones. In Vol. 7 of the Lineage Book of the Daughters of the American Colonists, p, 277, Mosias Jones was married 1st to Lucy Foster and 2nd to Elizabeth (--), and he was the father of Foster Jones. Tradition in the Harris family of colonial Albemarle Co. VA is that the wife of Foster Jones was Mourning Harris. No documentation is presented in the DAC book, but some dates were given. (Lineage of Mrs. Virginia Field Walton Brooks, born in Jonesboro, Arkansas.) Foster Jones is reportedly the son of an older Mosias Jones who married 1st Lucy Foster (1697-1750) Jones was a neighbor of Christopher Harris the elder in Albemarle Co., VA ca. 1751. He was a witness to several deeds in 1762 and 1763. but earlier there is this processioning order: At a Vestry Held for Fredericksville Parish ye 23rd Sept. 1751 [present was Robt. Harris as one of the vestry) Pursuant to an Order of Louisa Court dated ye 27th Aug. 1751 it is Ordered that the parish of Fredericksville be divided into precincts for Processioning as follows (p. 35) Ordered that Mosais Jones and Christopher Harris do procession all the lands on the uper side of Buck mountain Creek and a Cross Moormans river to the Coty. Line and up the Same to the raged Mountains and under them to Brown's road and down the Same to Buck Mountain Creek. (Rosalie Edith Davis, FREDERICKSVILLE PARISH VESTRY BOOKS, 1742-1787, Vol. 1 [Manchester, MO, 1978] p. 38) A similar order involving both men was again ordered by the court dated ye 24th day of June 1752. (ibid, p. 51) Albemarle Co. was formed from Louisa Co., and in Louisa Co., we find that Mosias Jones patented land: Patent Bk 31-231: Mosias Jones, 400 acs. Louisa Co. on both sides the S Fork of Rocky Cr.; 24 Oct 1752. 40 Shill. (Virginia Genelaogical Society, MAGAZINE OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY, Vol. 31, No. 2, p. 146) Albemarle Co. DB 3-158: 13 May 1762 Christopher Harris to Saml. Karr, Augusta, for 65 pds., 331 acres both sides S fork Rockey Creek adj. Henry Bunch, Morias [Mosias?] Jones. (Rev Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VA, 1761-1807, AND ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VA, 1748-1763. [Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1979], p. 54) A subsequent deed, same deed book, pp. 132-133, dated 21 Nov 1768, Christopher Harris to Thomas Grubbs, both of Albemarle Co. The tract of land was 77 acres on both sides of Moremans River. Fairly exact measurements are given. Witnesses were Mosias Jones, Higgason Grubbs, Tyree Harriss, Robt. Harriss and signed Christopher Harriss Senr Agnes Harris relinquished her dower rights at Albemarle Sept court 1769. (Ruth and Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1768-1770 [McLean, VA: 1990], p. 69) Another Virginia abstracted land patent reads: Land Patent Book 24, p. 304 Mosias Jones, 200A, Pr. George Co., N. side of Stoney Crl, above Cedar Island to Chamberlaynes Bed (p. 305) 25 Jul 1746. (J. Philip Bowry III, "Virginia Land Patent Book 24, 1745-1746," MAGAZINE OF VIRGINIA GENEALOGY, Vol. 26, No. 3, August 1988, p. 306) We suspect Mosias Jones who migrated to Madison Co., KY is a younger Mosias Jones. Abstracted will of Mosias Jones, Madison Co., KY Written 8 Jun 1808. Probated 2 May 1808 (?) Book A, page 437. Sons: William, Mosias, Foster, George, Thomas, Roger and John. Daughters: Lucy Maupin, Francis Harrison (?), Elizabeth Daverson, Ann Garrison and Sarah Curroum. Exec: William and Roger Jones. Wit: Martin Gentry, Moses Bennett, and John Maupin. (Researchers publication: MADISON COUNTY, KENTUCKY WILLS AND ESTATES, 1785-1813 PLUS 1792 TAXPAYERS [Indianapolis, IN: Researchers Publications, n.d., p. 7)

Thats WITHERS not Weithers sorry Hi Mike, Yes James H. Withers is listed....... 1860 Madison Co Ky., Elliston PO HH 388-384 WITHERS, James H. 47 Male Shoemaker Tenn Louisa J. 38 Female Ky Mary E. 15 Female Ky William ?. 12 Male Ky John 08 Male Ky Henry 05 Male Ky Christopher 03 Male Ky WITHERS, Thomas O. 22 Male Tenn Farm Laborer Hope this helps. Lynda Combs Gipson

In a message dated 9/13/2005 8:28:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Looking for the family of James H Withers Eliza J Withers Specificaly to see if Henry b abt 1855 is listed as a son of theirs, Thanks Mike Wilson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Mike, Yes James H. Withers is listed....... 1860 Madison Co Ky., Elliston PO HH 388-384 WEITHERS, James H. 47 Male Shoemaker Tenn Louisa J. 38 Female Ky Mary E. 15 Female Ky William ?. 12 Male Ky John 08 Male Ky Henry 05 Male Ky Christopher 03 Male Ky WITHERS, Thomas O. 22 Male Tenn Farm Laborer Hope this helps. Lynda Combs Gipson

Looking for the family of James H Withers Eliza J Withers Specificaly to see if Henry b abt 1855 is listed as a son of theirs, Thanks Mike Wilson

Are there any active Willis researchers in Anderson or Madison Counties of Kentucky? I am looking for descendants of Drury Willis or his siblings. Drury was in Madison County early in the 1800's and his son James moved to Anderson County. I would like to find any documentation on that family in Kentucky beyond all the Virginia probate papers, etc. (which I have). Thanks, Doug

Ellie I personally believe that there is no co-incidence in your theory but lacking the proof and ID of the father of John Miller or his siblings. I can only make circumstantial statements and possibilities. I believe there is a missing marriage of this John Miller and that his line will POSSIBLY connect back to the Boyd Miller line as well as the Robert Miller line of John Malcolm Miller and also the Reverend Alexander Miller. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MADKY-L] Deed Between Michael Miller/ Robert Tevis, Mar9, 1818, Book M-331 In a message dated 9/13/2005 6:37:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: FB is defined as father of the bride Polly was the daughter of Mosias Jones (I have the as the 3rd) and Elizabeth Baxter. Was Polly named Margaret Polly? Mosias later married Susannah Maupin and they had Mosias the 4th who married Elizabeth Betsy Miller, sister to Michael Miller. Anyone know these Millers? I am wondering about the above.. maybe coincidence. My 4th great grandfather was Mosias Maupin, b. VA, (s/o Jesse Maupin) m. Leah Downey of Greenbrier Co. VA. Their son, Thomas L. Maupin, m. Anna Miller, d/o Boyd Miller of VA>KY>MO.... I know there were other Millers always closeby.. So could this Miller be connected to my Boyd Miller? Probably some of the group settled in Madison Co. KY and I know some went on to MO? I know my Mosias Maupin (Rev War gunsmith) was b. in VA and wife, Leah Downey finally settled in Franklin Co. MO where they are buried and he has a DAR marker for his Rev War service on his grave. That is near my childhood.. That is about 40 to 50 miles southwest of St. Louis. Ellie Stites Swanger ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== Madison Co. KYGenWeb Page - http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymadiso/madison.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005

Hello Ann, Great to hear from you again, I don’t know of proof to the marriages you mention and I tend to accept till proven one way or the other. I do this to try and find the collaterals that may connect into my Miller line. You asked ”do you know who their (son) Mosias b. c. 1786 married?? I have nothing on him?” I have this Mosias as having married Elizabeth Miller on 30 September 1812 in Madison County, Ky. Bondsman was Michael Miller, brother of the bride. My question is, If Michael Miller, Elizabeth's brother was the bondsman, where was their father John Miller? He was at the marriage of Anna to David Hopper on 20 January 1811 in Madison County. He (John) was with Thomas at the founding of Union City Baptist Church in 1812. D E -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Jones family Hi, cousin. Has it ever been proved who the two first women were that married Mosias Jones?? Everyone seems to say that the second Elizabeth was a Baxter. And do you know who their Mosias b. c. 1786 married?? I have nothing on him. Hope all is well. Cloudy day here in Kansas, expecting some rain which we need. Ann Desc. of Mosias & Elizabeth Miller -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005

In a message dated 9/13/2005 6:37:06 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: FB is defined as father of the bride Polly was the daughter of Mosias Jones (I have the as the 3rd) and Elizabeth Baxter. Was Polly named Margaret Polly? Mosias later married Susannah Maupin and they had Mosias the 4th who married Elizabeth Betsy Miller, sister to Michael Miller. Anyone know these Millers? I am wondering about the above.. maybe coincidence. My 4th great grandfather was Mosias Maupin, b. VA, (s/o Jesse Maupin) m. Leah Downey of Greenbrier Co. VA. Their son, Thomas L. Maupin, m. Anna Miller, d/o Boyd Miller of VA>KY>MO.... I know there were other Millers always closeby.. So could this Miller be connected to my Boyd Miller? Probably some of the group settled in Madison Co. KY and I know some went on to MO? I know my Mosias Maupin (Rev War gunsmith) was b. in VA and wife, Leah Downey finally settled in Franklin Co. MO where they are buried and he has a DAR marker for his Rev War service on his grave. That is near my childhood.. That is about 40 to 50 miles southwest of St. Louis. Ellie Stites Swanger

Good morning. Just in case there are new people to the list, I'm researching the Murphy line out of John Murphy Sr., born 1766 in Lincoln Co., NC (some folks have his birth place as Madison Co.). John married first Hannah McNamare(a), and second Lucy Hughes. I know there were marriages performed by John Murphy Sr. in Madison Co. He was a Methodist Minister. Anyone with any information on this line, please, please contact me. Thanks so much! Crystal Murphy

FB is defined as father of the bride Polly was the daughter of Mosias Jones (I have the as the 3rd) and Elizabeth Baxter. Was Polly named Margaret Polly? Mosias later married Susannah Maupin and they had Mosias the 4th who married Elizabeth Betsy Miller, sister to Michael Miller. Anyone know these Millers? ----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MADKY-L] Deed Between Michael Miller/ Robert Tevis, Mar9, 1818, Book M-331 In a message dated 9/12/2005 7:58:22 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: FB Mosias Jones. What does "FB" mean? I am related to a "Mosias Jones" of said county.. Ellie Swanger ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== Madison Co. KYGenWeb Page - http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymadiso/madison.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005