Thanks for posting this interesting information! In addition to the Grubbs-Boone connection you cited, Higgason Grubbs also had a sister named Anna who married (a different) Squire Boone. Anna Grubbs' husband Squire was a son of Samuel Boone (brother of Daniel) and Sarah Day (who is cited by Spraker as a young Quakeress of education who taught Daniel Boone to read and write, to paraphrase). The famous "profession of faith" letter by Daniel Boone is addressed to Sarah (Day) Boone. So, two Boone cousins, both named Squire, married women from the Grubbs family -- one (Anna) was an aunt of the other (Mourning). My interest is in the Boone family as I descend from Samuel Boone and Sarah Day through their daughter Mary "Polly" Boone who married Leonard Keeling Bradley. Thanks! David [email protected] wrote: There seems to have been some interest lately, at least on the Madison Co., KY rootsweb, in an early settler in that county named Higgason Grubbs. My incomplete research (this man is NOT my ancestor--at least that I know of) indicates he may have lived in Albemarle Co., VA prior to removing to Madison Co., KY. Also, my perusal of the early deeds of Madison Co., KY indicate to me that 1) he either was a land speculator or 2) he was an land agent for someone else--or 3) he was both a speculator and a land agent. The name of Grubbs and his wife Lucy appear many times in the early deeds of Madison Co., KY. Perhaps some of these notes will help anyone interested in Grubbs's activities. As far as I have been able to determine, he had two daughters, but I have no further information on the formation of his family, if any--other than his wife Lucy. Lucy is believed to be (not proved) to be the daughter of James Harris and his wife Mary Harris, the latter the believed to be daughter of Major Robert Harris, who died testate in or around Louisa Co., VA, where his will is recorded. (This relationship may be in error.) This material is repetitious. So be careful. If you use this material, please cite the sources, as all well-qualified genealogists do these days. (Prove it is the watchword!!!! Where did you get that info????) Please share additional information (preferably with sources) and make corrections--on the rootsweb, of course!!! E.W.Wallace A Thomas Grubbs in Albemarle Co. 1775. Refer to Albe. Deeds 1772-1776 (deed of Sarah McWilliams) Deed Book --- , pp. 132-133, dated 21 Nov 1768, Christopher Harris to Thomas Grubbs, both of Albemarle Co. The tract of land was 77 acres on both sides of Moremans River. Fairly exact measurements are given. Witnesses were Mosias Jones, Higgason Grubbs, Tyree Harriss, Robt. Harriss and signed Christopher Harriss Senr Agnes Harris relinquished her dower rights at Albemarle Sept court 1769. (Ruth and Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1768-1770 [McLean, VA: The Antient Press, 1990], p. 69) Brief biography: HIGGASON GRUBBS. A Higgason Grubbs was in Albemarle Co. in 1768 when he was one of the witnesses to a deed (DB 5-132-133) in Albemarle Co. of Christopher Harris to Thomas Grubbs, land on both sides of Moreman's River. We do not know the relationship of the two Grubbs men. (Christopher Harris was an early settler in Madison Co., KY.) Higgason Grubbs was reportedly married to Lucy Harris, but she is believed to be a daughter of James Harris and his wife Mary Harris, the latter related to Christopher Harris. A Higgason Grubbs was an early settler of Madison Co., KY. He was one of the trustees of Boonesborough (see below). He is reported by W. H. Miller in his GENEALOGIES to have given a deposition in [Madison Co.] court E-230: "... In 1780 he and Jesse Coffee camped at the root of the beech tree where we are now tonight when they out buffalo hunting, and made the letters H.G.I.C. and the figures 1780 at that time, also Oc for October, on this beech tree. After the location was made for William Shelton that he came to hunt for this tree and Thomas Shelton and Peter Woods came with me, and found this tree very readily." He is one of the signers of a petition to divide the county of Lincoln [Kentucky, but then Virginia] into three counties, Lincoln, Mercer and Madison. 1786. Granted. Many of the signers of this petition were at Boonesboro, states the compiler. (Katherine Phelps Caperton, "A Partial List of Those at Fort Boonesborough," in THE REGISTER OF THE KENTUCKY STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, VOL. 23, p. 151 [pages renumbered, it seems, from original].) Refer to the biography of William Shelton whose wife was a Lucy Harris, as was Higgason's wife, Lucy Harris. The wife of Robert Rodes, mentioned below, was also a Harris. Madison Co., KY October court 1786: "Ordered that George Boon [sic], Robt Roads [sic], Higgason Grubbs, John Turner or any three of them being first sworn do review the most convenient for a road from Irvine's lick to the mo of Tates Creek and report the same." Grubbs was on the 1787 tax list of Madison Co., then in VA, now in KY. (Schreiner-Yantis & Love, 1787 CENSUS OF VIRGINIA) Littell's Statutes in reference to Boonesborough: "(b) The Trustees [named in the previous section] declined to act and Thomas Kennedy, Aaron Lewis, Robert Rhodes, Green Clay, Archibald Woods, Benjamin Bedford, John Sappington, William Irvine, David Crews and Higgerson [sic] Grubbs were appointed (1787)" V. 3, p. 539." According to the Kentucky Gazette 12 May 1792 (V. V, No. XXXV, Higgason Grubbs was elected Representative from Madison Co., KY May 1792, along with Thomas Clay, John Miller. Electors were William Irvine, Higgarson [sic] Grubbs, Thomas Clay. Elected Sheriff was John Gais/Gats. Christopher Harris, Jun. was elected Coroner. (Karen Maurer Green, THE KENTUCKY GAZETTE 1787-1800; Baltimore: Gateway Press, 1983 p. 53) Grubbs was bondsman when his (probable) daughter, Mourning Grubbs married Squire Boone ca. 16 May 1797. Mourning doubtless was named for her ancestress, Mourning Glenn Harris. Squire Boone, one of numerous males bearing this name, probably is the son of George Boone, apparently a neighbor on Tate's Creek in Madison Co. 131-132 Grubbs & wf Lucy sold land in KY in 1810 to Wm Boone The Grubbs family was from Albemarle Co. In Albemarle Co., VA DB 5 1768-1772 p. 37-38 is a deed between William Dabney and Jane his wife to Wm Shelton, land on Mechams River. The deed was made 2 Jun 1768 and was witnessed by Thomas Grubbs, Elizabeth Jones, Chirstopher Harris, Robert Harris, Tyre Harris (the latter two Harrises probably being brothers of Christopher). (Ruth and Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1768-1770 [McLean, VA: 1990], p. 21) (Note: There is some confusion as to the identity of Tyre Harris, given in the 1768 deed above. Christopher Harris had a son named Tyree and also a brother of that name. However, the brother is believed to have been in Orange Co., NC during this time period. He was an early county official in that North Carolina county, the parent of Caswelll Co., NC, where the elder Tyree Harris died testate.) A subsequent deed, same deed book, pp. 132-133, dated 21 Nov 1768, Christopher Harris to Thomas Grubbs, both of Albemarle Co. The tract of land was 77 acres on both sides of Moremans River aka Moorman's River. Fairly exact measurements are given. Witnesses were Mosias Jones, Higgason Grubbs, Tyree Harriss, Robt. Harriss and signed Christopher Harriss Senr Agnes relinquished her dower rights at Albemarle Sept court 1769. 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Bowling Green State University (bgsu) is in Ohio. The university in Bowling Green, KY is Western Kentucky University (wku). None of this matters if you are using the web, but if you decided to visit, it would make a difference. Sandi Gorin is in Glasgow, Ky, not far from WKU and she knows a lot about most parts of Kentucky. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: [MADKY-L] Estill's Station > You wrote of Estill's Station--so I googled for Estill's Station. I > turned > up several URLs. One by Sandi Gorin [she knows a lot about Kentucky, but > I > forget which part] and these are the descriptions she gives: > > ESTILL'S STATION: On Muddy creek, 3 miles S of Richmond, Madison > county; settled by Capt James ESTILL, before 1781. > ESTILL'S NEW STATION: 5 miles SE of Richmond > > Searching the surname Miller is a problem. Millar is the way Ulstermen > [Northern Ireland] spell the name. I have a Miller allegedly from County > Down > who somehow got to the frontier in Trigg Co., KY by 1820--in time to > marry a > lady somewhat older than he!!!! He was a wily critter!!! Kept moving!!! > Helped with the Texas Revolution in 1835. > > Question: Is Estill's station and the early settlers mentioned at all in > the Lyman Draper Collection (on about 152 reels of film at many University > libraries and probably at Kentucky Historical Society and larger > universities in > Kentucky - and elsewhere.) One needs a calendar [no--it is a kind of > index, > most of which have been published by the Historical Society of Wisconsin, > who > holds the Draper Collection, where Draper was a curator/director for a > number of years]. > > I googled for the phrase *calendar of Draper collection. Someone has > listed > on e-bay a CD-ROM ($14 plus shipping) of Part II of something about the > Kentucky papers. > > To find out a little more about what may be included in the Draper > Collection (specifically, those parts which refer to Kentucky Papers), use > this URL > for Bowling Green [Ky] college. > > --_www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/_ (http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/) > infosrv/MicroCollections/draper.htm-- > > Remove the punctuation fore and aft--rootsweb doesn't like *raw* URLs. > > E.W.Wallace > PS If you learn more about the early days of Estills Station, please > share > with us. My folks were more in the Boonesborough area--except perhaps > Andrew > Tribble, who seemed to be in and around Richmond (or its predecessor). > > > > > > ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== > Stuck on one of your Madison Co. ancestors? Can't get any help if you > don't post! Post today! > >

You wrote of Estill's Station--so I googled for Estill's Station. I turned up several URLs. One by Sandi Gorin [she knows a lot about Kentucky, but I forget which part] and these are the descriptions she gives: ESTILL'S STATION: On Muddy creek, 3 miles S of Richmond, Madison county; settled by Capt James ESTILL, before 1781. ESTILL'S NEW STATION: 5 miles SE of Richmond Searching the surname Miller is a problem. Millar is the way Ulstermen [Northern Ireland] spell the name. I have a Miller allegedly from County Down who somehow got to the frontier in Trigg Co., KY by 1820--in time to marry a lady somewhat older than he!!!! He was a wily critter!!! Kept moving!!! Helped with the Texas Revolution in 1835. Question: Is Estill's station and the early settlers mentioned at all in the Lyman Draper Collection (on about 152 reels of film at many University libraries and probably at Kentucky Historical Society and larger universities in Kentucky - and elsewhere.) One needs a calendar [no--it is a kind of index, most of which have been published by the Historical Society of Wisconsin, who holds the Draper Collection, where Draper was a curator/director for a number of years]. I googled for the phrase *calendar of Draper collection. Someone has listed on e-bay a CD-ROM ($14 plus shipping) of Part II of something about the Kentucky papers. To find out a little more about what may be included in the Draper Collection (specifically, those parts which refer to Kentucky Papers), use this URL for Bowling Green [Ky] college. --_www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/_ (http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/) infosrv/MicroCollections/draper.htm-- Remove the punctuation fore and aft--rootsweb doesn't like *raw* URLs. E.W.Wallace PS If you learn more about the early days of Estills Station, please share with us. My folks were more in the Boonesborough area--except perhaps Andrew Tribble, who seemed to be in and around Richmond (or its predecessor).

Mary Alice wrote: First off, I am a member of DAR and have several supplemental lines and have spent about ten years searching for a father/son documentation for Barnabas and Coleman Haley. Barnabas Haley got his Revolutionary War pension in Madison County and he and his wife, Rhoda, are buried in the Scaffold Cane Cemetery in Rockcastle County. Coleman and family went to Boone County, MO and he died there. He married Ellender Renfro in Garrard County, KY before he made the move. The estate settlement for Coleman lists a son Turpin in Kentucky and he was in Rockcastle County, KY at that time. Ellender Renfro Haley eventually came home and placed her membership in the Scaffold Cane Church. Knowing all of this, I still cannot find anything that will help me to prove the father/son relationship between Barnabas and Coleman to the satisfaction of DAR...any suggestions? Mary Alice My response: There a couple of questions to ask: 1) Is the name Haley and not Halley? I have a little information about the latter family who were associated with the Oldham family (Jesse Oldham, d. 1814 testate in Madison Co.), the wife of Jessie being a Simpson, whose parents were originally of Fairfax Co., VA. (Richard Simpson, Sr. and Mary Kincheloe). 2) Do you have any dates for these folks? When you received the pension records (I assume you have it), did you get the ENTIRE file? What NARA will do, unless you specifiy send ENTIRE file, is to send selected documents. Sometimes they leave out just the piece of paper you covet!!!! I was advised by an expert to specify on the several page request which one sends to NARA to write at the top in red and circle--SEND ENTIRE FILE. 3) I have found -- at least in Madison Co., KY --not Rockcastle--that Commissioners deeds generally have to do with settling an estate in Kentucky when the heirs are having trouble settling the estate or quarreling among themselves (which disagreement is not stated in the deed, as far as I have been able to determine, but one can read between the lines). Check the grantor and grantee indexes of the Kentucky county you are searching and see what you can find. Most of Kentucky deed indexes have been filmed by the Family History Library in Salt Lake City and can be borrowed through a nearby LDS center. Generally, these indexes are typed (title researchers use these indexes every day, it seems) and alphabetized. Generally, the last column gives a hint of the property. Look for deeds of gift (property or slaves), etc. I am especially on the lookout for an indexed surname which is followed by these marks: *& c*, meaning *and others* and Hrs. (heirs). Generally all the heirs sign the commissioners' deeds--or if the woman is married--her spouse is included. Hint, if no spouse for a woman is listed (or signs) the woman is either unmarried or a widow. Then you have a new search--by whom was that woman widowed? I have a problem with a Mrs. Clark nee Oldham in Madison Co.!!!! Which Clark was her deceased spouse? Always a new problem to solve!!!! By the way, have you asked a person connected with the DAR Library to help you solve the relationship problem? They may have something tucked away in their vast files to help you!!!! I believe you may have to study all the indexes in the counties, both in KY and in MO, where the testator (deceased) lived. E.W.Wallace .

Mary Alice, Check with the Rockcastle Genealogy Society at Mt Vernon and talk to Jean about the "Minutes of The Scaffold Cane Church. If I remember right, they begin about 1803. They may mention Barnabus and Rhonda and son Coleman. The minutes do include my Thomas Miller and Patience. Also I believe Coleman and Ellender were married in Garrard County on Sept 20, 1805. Sur Bond may have been by Barnabus??? Then in Madison County there should be a marriage bond for George Haley and Lavica Callahan dated Feb 3, 1809. One more, I don't know for sure but Barnabus or Coleman may have been "Mason's" and they may have a record with them. Robert Duncan Cook who married Matilda Haley was a Freemason in Madison> Good Luck -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MADKY-L] Barnabas Haley and son, Coleman First off, I am a member of DAR and have several supplemental lines and have spent about ten years searching for a father/son documentation for Barnabas and Coleman Haley. Barnabas Haley got his Revolutionary War pension in Madison County and he and his wife, Rhoda, are buried in the Scaffold Cane Cemetery in Rockcastle County. Coleman and family went to Boone County, MO and he died there. He married Ellender Renfro in Garrard County, KY before he made the move. The estate settlement for Coleman lists a son Turpin in Kentucky and he was in Rockcastle County, KY at that time. Ellender Renfro Haley eventually came home and placed her membership in the Scaffold Cane Church. Knowing all of this, I still cannot find anything that will help me to prove the father/son relationship between Barnabas and Coleman to the satisfaction of DAR...any suggestions? Mary Alice ==== MADKY Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) as the only text in the body of a message to [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest mode). -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005

I am looking for anyone who might have known any familys by this name in Madison Co. Ky. The Coddle I am looking for is John Caudle born 1818 in Madison Co. Ky.He married a Eliza Jane Agee in 1863 in Madison Co.Ky. In 1880 Eliza and John were living in Owen Co.Ky.with 8 children

Crystal, I have a few Murphy's in my data, but they're not my direct line. Several married into the Cox and Park families. If you have a question, I'll be glad to see if I have the answer. Suggestion: Post some Murphy information on the List and it might trigger some interest. : ) Wanda Flesher At 10:14 PM 11/13/2005, you wrote: >I have found it interesting, am curious, as to why no mention (that I have >seen) of the Murphy/Murphey (and various spellings) are ever mentioned on >this >list. If I have missed them, forgive me please; however, I have yet to view >any postings or replies in reference to my Murphys in Madison Co. They were >there. > >Thank you, >Crystal Murphy > > >==== MADKY Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) as the >only text in the body of a message to [email protected] (mail >mode) or [email protected] (digest mode). For Freedom's Sake, Love God. Love America.

I have found it interesting, am curious, as to why no mention (that I have seen) of the Murphy/Murphey (and various spellings) are ever mentioned on this list. If I have missed them, forgive me please; however, I have yet to view any postings or replies in reference to my Murphys in Madison Co. They were there. Thank you, Crystal Murphy

First off, I am a member of DAR and have several supplemental lines and have spent about ten years searching for a father/son documentation for Barnabas and Coleman Haley. Barnabas Haley got his Revolutionary War pension in Madison County and he and his wife, Rhoda, are buried in the Scaffold Cane Cemetery in Rockcastle County. Coleman and family went to Boone County, MO and he died there. He married Ellender Renfro in Garrard County, KY before he made the move. The estate settlement for Coleman lists a son Turpin in Kentucky and he was in Rockcastle County, KY at that time. Ellender Renfro Haley eventually came home and placed her membership in the Scaffold Cane Church. Knowing all of this, I still cannot find anything that will help me to prove the father/son relationship between Barnabas and Coleman to the satisfaction of DAR...any suggestions? Mary Alice

E W It is always a pleasure to read your helpful hints and especially your mention of the Miller family, subject of the William Harris Miller book. I wish there were more conversations about the founding fathers of Madison County. It just so happens that I have been searching several years for the parents of a John Miller who owned ridge acreage between the Otter and Muddy Creeks in ca 1803. I have never been able to located his grant, deed, or warrant. It seems I can not separate my John Miller records from all the county records relating to The John Robert Malcolm Miller. I descend from the Thomas Miller and Patience West who were married 1812 at The Union City Baptist Church and were also included among the founding members. Church records spelled John and Thomas's last name as "Millar". I know that Thomas said he was born in NC and I also know his siblings. I believe this John Miller was with James Estill at Estill's Station, especially since Jimmy "Estill" Miller was listed as a founding member of the same church. Jimmy would have been 12 years old, son of Robert Miller and Sallie Estill, and grandson of John Robert Malcolm Miller. I also suspicion that my John Millar/Miller was related to James Enoch Mylar/Miller who married Rachel Wilcoxson and also related to the William Miller who blamed for the death of James Estill and founder of Paint Lick. Lastly, I also found a John Miller in the 1790 Wilkes Co., NC Census in the 2nd Company of Capt Wm Hardin. Anyone know this John Miller? D E Miller -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MADKY-L] Some Genealogies of Madison Co., KY Early Settlers I concur with the posts on the lsit about The Boone Family by Hazel A. Spraker, first published in 1922. It has been republished many times, and is one of the better genealogies extant, as far as I am concerned. Perhaps I say that because so many of my ancestors, including my father and his sibs, are featured. However, there is more than just a list of names. I would add the following information for seekers of early inhabitants of Madison Co., KY: I believe the following book by William Harris Miller, published long ago, and seemingly with a supplment, has been filmed by the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Remember, this is a secondary source and should be checked against the filmed original records of Madison Co., Ky, of which Salt Lake City has aplenty. I, in particular, like to read the deeds--wish I had more time in my life!!!! The deed indexes--grantor and grantee--have been typed and are alphabetized by surname, and thus are easy to read. I have not had time to thoroughly go through all the probates. This is the title of Miller's book, which book is somewhat flawed, particularly when it comes to the Oldham family. He mixes up the Oldham family (extended) who came to Madison Co., KY from the area around Caswell Co., NC with an Oldham group who lived in and around Jefferson Co., KY and which group came directly to Kentucky from Virginia. In fact, I believe a couple of the latter group were awarded military land. Jesse Oldham of early Madison Co. and his children, who came early to Boonesborough, did NOT receive military land. Jesse (d. testate 1814 Madison Co., KY) was of Virginia origin, his parents cannot be documented with any certainty. _History and genealogies of the families of Miller, Woods, Harris, Wallace, Maupin, Oldham, Kavanaugh and Brown : with interspersions of notes of the families of Dadney, Reid, Martin, Broaddus, Gentry, Jarman, Jameson, Ballard, Mullins, Michie, Moberley, Covington, Browning, Duncan, Yancey and others_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?di splay=t itledetails&titleno=252717&disp=History+and+genealogies+of+the+families+) To find out about the supplement to the above hefty book, do an author search of the Family History Library catalog and do an author search - William Harris Miller. On Sundays the website familysearch.org is not always reliable as I believe that is the day the site is updated, upgraded, etc. But try it on a weekday. Oh, yes, have you ever seen a group of books called The 1787 Census of Virginia? It has MANY personal property taxes [not land taxes] for Virginia counties, including the then extant [1787] counties of Kentucky. A few Virginia counties are missing. This is a three-volume set, with the 3rd volume being the index to the two preceding volumes. On re-checking this valuable list, I learned that my ancestor Christopher Harris, had personal property in his Virginia county--Albemarle Co.--as well as in Madison Co., KY. Perhaps your ancestor is listed in several counties. Check him/her out. The compilers of the 1787 Censuses of Virginia were Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love. At one time, they were selling county booklets, which sometimes gave additional information about the county. If you find that Mrs. Schreiner-Yantis or Mrs. Love are not selling these booklets personally, then Willow Bend books (they have a website) sell them, I am fairly sure--or can obtain a copy or copies for you. Enough already!!! 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I concur with the posts on the lsit about The Boone Family by Hazel A. Spraker, first published in 1922. It has been republished many times, and is one of the better genealogies extant, as far as I am concerned. Perhaps I say that because so many of my ancestors, including my father and his sibs, are featured. However, there is more than just a list of names. I would add the following information for seekers of early inhabitants of Madison Co., KY: I believe the following book by William Harris Miller, published long ago, and seemingly with a supplment, has been filmed by the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Remember, this is a secondary source and should be checked against the filmed original records of Madison Co., Ky, of which Salt Lake City has aplenty. I, in particular, like to read the deeds--wish I had more time in my life!!!! The deed indexes--grantor and grantee--have been typed and are alphabetized by surname, and thus are easy to read. I have not had time to thoroughly go through all the probates. This is the title of Miller's book, which book is somewhat flawed, particularly when it comes to the Oldham family. He mixes up the Oldham family (extended) who came to Madison Co., KY from the area around Caswell Co., NC with an Oldham group who lived in and around Jefferson Co., KY and which group came directly to Kentucky from Virginia. In fact, I believe a couple of the latter group were awarded military land. Jesse Oldham of early Madison Co. and his children, who came early to Boonesborough, did NOT receive military land. Jesse (d. testate 1814 Madison Co., KY) was of Virginia origin, his parents cannot be documented with any certainty. _History and genealogies of the families of Miller, Woods, Harris, Wallace, Maupin, Oldham, Kavanaugh and Brown : with interspersions of notes of the families of Dadney, Reid, Martin, Broaddus, Gentry, Jarman, Jameson, Ballard, Mullins, Michie, Moberley, Covington, Browning, Duncan, Yancey and others_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=t itledetails&titleno=252717&disp=History+and+genealogies+of+the+families+) To find out about the supplement to the above hefty book, do an author search of the Family History Library catalog and do an author search - William Harris Miller. On Sundays the website familysearch.org is not always reliable as I believe that is the day the site is updated, upgraded, etc. But try it on a weekday. Oh, yes, have you ever seen a group of books called The 1787 Census of Virginia? It has MANY personal property taxes [not land taxes] for Virginia counties, including the then extant [1787] counties of Kentucky. A few Virginia counties are missing. This is a three-volume set, with the 3rd volume being the index to the two preceding volumes. On re-checking this valuable list, I learned that my ancestor Christopher Harris, had personal property in his Virginia county--Albemarle Co.--as well as in Madison Co., KY. Perhaps your ancestor is listed in several counties. Check him/her out. The compilers of the 1787 Censuses of Virginia were Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love. At one time, they were selling county booklets, which sometimes gave additional information about the county. If you find that Mrs. Schreiner-Yantis or Mrs. Love are not selling these booklets personally, then Willow Bend books (they have a website) sell them, I am fairly sure--or can obtain a copy or copies for you. Enough already!!! E.W.Wallace who has many Madison Co., KY ancestors--originally from Virginia and North Carolina

This message was posted on the Boone List by Chet Buchanan, and I thought it would be of interest to Madison County List subscribers. Besides the Boone family, names listed include Grubbs, Harris, Hoy, Chenault, Jarman, Newland, Woods, Tinstall, Goodloe, and Lipscomb. Chester Buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: Kathryn, et al. You are likely right about the subject Squire Boone being the son of George and Nancy. According to Spraker, this Squire married Mourning Grubbs in 1808 (Madison Co., KY - location of Tates Cr.). Mourning was the daughter of Higgason and Lucy Grubbs, and according to Reflections, Higgason Grubbs was a trustee of Boonesborough in 1787 and a member of Tates Creek Baptist Church! Good circumstantial evidence. Please note that I only photocopied a few selected pages from the manuscript. I don't remember if it was bound (though I think it was), how many pages it contained (photocopy margins on the selected pages indicate about 50 pages), or if it was copy righted. You need to contact KY Historical Society, where the manuscript is held (100 w. Broadway, Frankfort, KY 40601), for the correct information. Chet ****************** Following are all of the Boone related quotations from Reflections. Reflections in the Wind, Reliving A Memorable ERA in Northern Madison County by Guypsie Lee Cosby Jones (written below her name in pencil is: 460 Whitlock Rd., Richmond, KY 40475, 606-623-3289) p. 2 - Gives the 10 trustees of Boonesborough in 1787 (from Richmond Register, July 31, 1982) - seven of whom are members of the Tates Creek Baptist Church. Grubbs is listed as one of the trustees. The church was found by Andrew Tribble, a pastor from a Baptist church in Albemarle Co., VA. "He found congenial spirits in Samuel Tate and George Boone already settled in Madison County, and organized the Tates Creek Separate Baptist Church at Shallow Ford in 1786. Prominent among the pioneer members were the Boones, Hoys, Chenaults, Jarmans, Newlands, Woods, Tinstalls, Grubbs, Goodloes, and Lipscombs. Besides Andrew Tribble, its pioneer ministers were George Boone, Thomas Jarman, David Chenault, and Richard Morton." p. 3 (Title) "Minutes of the Eightieth Meeting of the Tates Creek Association of United Baptists Held with the Red Lick Church, Madison County, Kentucky on August 26, and 27 Days 1873 by D.A. Chenault." (Subject Title) "History of Tates Creek Church" "I find ... two Tates Creek churches designed: Tates Creek log and stone meeting houses, in the same vicinity. The log under the protection of the Tanner Station, the stone the Hoy Station, whose base was about seven miles from the old Boonesborough Fort." [I believe "I" in this sentence is Gypsie Jones and not Chenault.] "The Tates Creek stone house church, some of whose most noted efforts I propose to notice was constituted about 1786; Andrew Tribble, appearing as her officiating pastor, and continued to serve her in that capacity until 1819... ." p. 7 (Subject Title) "Selected minutes of Tates Creek Baptist Church, from the original handwritten minutes at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Louisville, Kentucky." [I did not copy all "selected minutes" below, but only those relating to Boone.] "June the first Saturday, 1789 George Boone restored to fellowship. Ebenezer Parks restored to fellowship. James Berry - Clerk." "July the first Saturday, 1799 A committee was formed to discuss a brothers conduct and said, the brothers conduct was unseemly and from a review of his ministerial character, could not be countenanced by those who love the interests of religion. signed by, Christopher Harris-Moderator Squire Boone - Clerk" p. 8 "1802 Nancy Boone joined by letter." "February 1805 Nancy Boone granted a letter of dismission." p. 9 "August 1805 A charge against George Boone by John Turner but not investigated. George Boone against Archibald Wood laid over for further investigation." "August 1809 A charge leveled against George Boone for bringing suit against Bro. Talbot and Brethren Josiah Phelps, and John Weigle appointed to cite him to attend next meeting.' "January 1810 Bro. George Boone is acquitted by the church. The Bro. George Boone is granted a letter of dismission." "1816 John Boone joined by experience." PS: Let me know if you suspect typos in the above. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Weiss" To: Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:21 AM Subject: [BOONE-L] Tate's Creek Baptist Church > Could the Squire Boone at Tate's Creek Baptist June 1799 be another s/o George & Nancy Linville Boone? > > Squire-2's sons said: > > "In '80 - '81, he acted as a justice, & married several couples at the old Station in '80." Moses Boone > > "Never made a profession of religion - though so inclined: could not, as Ths. S. Hinde says, have been at the > great Cane Ridge meeting in 1802, & converted there. Was generous - too much so for his own good; very > indifferent about property, money, &c." Isaiah Boone > > "The ancestry were Quakers & Squire Boone (my informant's father, seemed to share in that faith - so E. M. > Boone thinks was his father's belief)." Enoch Morgan Boone, to LCD 1858 [Enoch was Baptist] > > Chester, maybe you could give us the details of what the book said about George & Squire? > > Kathryn > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Can anyone tell me who to contact to get copy of marriage records/license in Madison Co., KY John in Lawrence, KS researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related families. [email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: 10/9/2005

I found a Hugh N. Sowers in the 1920 Valley View Pct. Madison Co., KY list with Clarence E Goins. It listed him as a faster child. I could make out the age, but apparently he was under 1 yr old. Does anyone know how I might find out who his parents were? It seems the more I find out the more questions are raised. John in Lawrence, KS researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related families. [email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/124 - Release Date: 10/7/2005

Can anyone get me a readable copy of the 1920 census of madison Co ED 53 SH 1-A and 1-B. I oly have access to Heritiage Quest on line and you can not read a thing on it. Trying to find the sheet with Mike E. Sowers and wife Pauline. John in Lawrence, KS researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related families. [email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/124 - Release Date: 10/7/2005

To the person who lives in Lawrence Kansas and is trying to check up on infor provided by another researcher (always a good idea, as so much gets distorted). In Lawrence, Kansas, your public library has a genealogical online database called HeritageQuest. (For others living else, get the website for your local library and check for online databases!!! Your library may have HeritageQuest also.) Be sure you have a card with a number on it (and which has not expired) and then try to enter the database from your home computer. You will find all [well, nearly all] the images of the US censuses, but not all censuses have yet been indexed. If you are unsure how to use HeritageQuest (which has other materials of genealogical interest on it), get some instructions from your nearest library branch. The 1880 census is free [at least the index is] at familyserch.org Look for the word *vast* and then click around until you find census. Then you can determine a LOT from the censuses from 1850 on. Also check out the books on HeritageQuest. Say you type in a PLACE such as Madison County, Kentucky. The list will be rated by relevancy. Sometimes there may ONE line in an old county history of a county far away from Kentucky, but it may mention the birthplace of someone!!!! Some of the Revolutionary War pensions are also on HeritageQuest. Happy hunting!!! It is fun to do genealogy yourself, rather than rely on someone else to authenticate your family. They may give you VALUABLE leads, but do it yourself!!! E.W.Wallace a fan of HeritageQuest

I am searching for any information on Joel Sowers and/or his descendants. All were born in Floyd County Virginia. Jorl Sowers b. 1815 and was told he died 1888 in Round Hill, KY. He married Adeline Simmons in 1848 in Floyd Co., VA I have 11 children listed for them. Most of my information on them was from another reseacher. 1. Emmet Sowers b. 1841 VA 2. William S. Sowers b. 1842 married Mary J. ? b. abt 1844 KY 1880 soundes of Madison Co., KY listed 9 children; James, William, Rasmus, Susan, Mike Robert, Mary and Lucy. 3. Rhoda E. Sowers b. 1846 VA 4. Permilla Isabelle b.1848 VA located on 1900 Million Dist, Madison Co., KY census married to Robert Goins b. Mar 1848 KY (Adeline Sowers was listed as mother in law) listed were 10 children; William, Clarence, James, George, Robert E., Calvin, Alma, Emma, Herschel and Grace. 5. Mary A. Sowers b. Jul 1859 VA 6. Calvin Sowers b. 1853 VA wife Addie b. abt 1866 KY (1900 Kirksville Dist., Madison Co., KY census) with 4 children; Nora, Robert E., Jessie and Maude. 7. Leroy Sowers b. 25 Apr 1855 VA 8. Lorenzxo J. Sowers b. 1857 VA 9. Paris S. Sowers b. 14 May 1860 VA 10. Florence Sowers b. 1864 VA 11. Octavia Howard (male) Sowers b. Mar 1865 VA. Have been unable to find out when the family left VA and if all of the children went with them. Located them on the LDS 1880 census in Milion Dist, Madison Co., KY and only Paris, Florence and William were liste with Joel and Adeline Sowers then. If anyone could search marriage records in Madison Co. for me would appreciate it. Also and cemetery records/listings. All the information I have is from census records and another reseacher so what I have is not really documented. Have found only one person who is reseaching this family. All the other say Joel moved west. John in Lawrence, KS researching Sowers, John, Miller, Booth. Eller, Sargent and other related families. [email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 10/4/2005

In the book Tidewater Virginia Families Generations Beyond by Davis, page 141 says of a Dabney Harris. S/O Christopher Harris, married first Mary Dabney on 02/22/1745, children named in his will were Dabney, Sarah, Robert, Tyree, Elizabeth, Mourning, Christopher, Mary. He married a second time & had Jane, John, Benjamin, William, James, Margaret, Isabel, Samuel, Barnabas, Overton. The first Christopher's parents per this book were Robert Harris & Mourning Glenn Harris. It seems some of this family were Quakers as mine were, they left VA. because of problems and settled in Madison - Clark Counties, KY. Might be worth your while to buy this book and also check Quaker records. Hallie Researching Terrell & Tyler in Madison & Clark Counties, KY.

Dear Ira, Recently, you wrote inquiring about Barnabas Harris, one of the numerous children of Christopher Harris the elder, who died testate ca 1798 in Madison Co., KY. Christopher had two wives: Mary Dabney and Agnes McCord. This conveyance does not state who the mothers of the heirs were, but there is some indication that Barnabas Harris was either absent or deceased, as Overton Harris was his attorney. At least, that is my interpretation. If that is incorrect, please let me know. I did a google.com search for one of the names--I think it was Overton Harris--and discovered this transcription of a Madison Co., KY deed which I discovered and transcribed, to the best of my ability, some time ago. I had not remembered that it had been posted. I hope this answers some of your questions. Those Madison Co. KY deed books are marvelous for untangling some family relationships (and family fights), but a lot of analysis needs to be done. Here is the URL freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ~confido/hhdeedky1.html E.W.Wallace

I noted this last query concerning one Dabney Harris. Glen Harris has some information on him, but I don't know whether Glen has formed any definite opinion whether the Dabney Harris in Pulaski Co., KY is the same one as in Surry Co., NC at an earlier time. One of my my reliable sources for southern lineage are land records--deeds, patents, and land grants. Were Dabney Harris my ancestor (he is my ancestor's half-brother, but about 18 persons were my ancestor's half-siblings, a mighty project), I would try to get hold of as many films of land records, court records, whatever, to try to verify whether he is the same person but migrating from NC to Kentucky, where he had many relatives--particularly in Madison Co., KY, where his father Christopher died testate. Here are my notes, many taken from the e-mails of geharris: Preparer: E. W. Wallace Dec 1995 DABNEY HARRIS. Little is known of Dabney Harris. His birthdate, of 15 Dec 1745, apparently unconfirmed, is taken from DAR application 598925. Those of his siblings and most of the marriages are given, indicating the DAR applicant MAY have used a Bible record. In Nov 1774 he was witness in Albemarle Co., VA to a will of one William Blackwell, written 23 Nov 1774, proved Mar court 1775. Other witnesses were Philip Thurmon and James Gardner. (J. Estelle Stewart King, ABSTRACTS OF WILLS, INVENTORIES AND ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VA 1748-1800 [Beverly Hills, CA, 1940], p. 22) Dabney apparently moved to Surry Co., NC.(1) His name appears in Madison Co., KY Grant Deed Index. Dabney Harris, grantor; Christopher Harris, grantee; C-381, 9 Mar 1795; recorded 5 May 1795; power of attorney. "Know all men by these presents that I Dabney Harris of Surry County, North Carolina for sundry [reasons?] etc do constitute and appoint my son and Friend Christopher Harris of the said county & state my true & lawfull attorney to act demand sue for recover & ... of Christopher Harris & Foster Jones of Madison County & in the State of Kentucke Exrs to the Estate of my Deceased Father all such Legacys as may be due to me on that behalf? hereby ratifying and confirming whatever my said Attorney may do in and touching Premises in as full and Ample manner as though I were personally present in Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this ninth (?] day of March one Thousand seven hundred and ninety four. /s/ Dabney Harris Teste Reuben Canterbury, John Canterbury, J. P. ----" A Dabney Harris is listed in the 1820 census of Kentucky as being in Pulaski Co., but we have no idea whether he is the son of Christopher. A Christopher Harris is also listed in Pulaski Co.; possibly he is the son of Dabney Harris. More research is needed. (Tax lists of Kentucky, which generally give the watercourse on which the land is located, may be helpful. ) (1) On Family Tree Maker CD ROM CENSUS INDEX: COLONIAL AMERICA 1607-1789, he is listed in ... North Carolina, Hardin's District. An e-mail from [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) dated 7/2/03 gives this information: "Surry Co. NC abstracts: Deed books D, E and F (1779-1797 6 Aug 1793 Dabney Harris to John Personate, for 75 pounds, 95 acres adjacent Jesse Franklin and Mark Kenned(a)y. Wits (X) James Franklin, Thomas Ross, William Snow. Signed Dabney Harris (this land was most likely on Butler creek)" Dabney Harris is on 1782 Surry Co. tax list; Capt. Humphries District: Dabney has one horse, 2 cows and 100 acres (no location given) An earlier indication of Dabney's linkage to Albemarle Co. was also sent by geharris, date not noted: Albemarle Co., VA Will Book 2, pg 322. Will of William Blackwell. Wife Sarah to have estate during her life, and at her decease it is to be divided among all my children (not named). Exrs: Wife, son Armistead Blackwell and William Blackwell. Wit: Dabney Harris, Philip Thurmon(d) and James Gardner. (This is similar to the abstract cited previously.) geharris also sent some excerpts from Wilkes Co. NC courty court minutes, Vol I & II, 1778-1788 listing Dabney Harris, among many others to serve on road juries in Apr 1785 and again Jan 1787. A place mentioned in these road orders: Mitchel's River. ////////////// From an e-mail Mar 2003: There was a Dabney Harris living in Wilkes County NC in the 1780's. Comment: According to the Family History Library catalog: Pulaski Co. KY was formed 1798, created from Lincoln and Green counties. A disaster in 1871 destroyed most records. My suggestion: State records may exist for Pulaski Co., such as land grants, if any, and surviving tax records, copies of which I believe were sent to the State (well, commonwealth). Sometimes I have had good luck with OLD county histories of so-called burned counties. Furthermore, I just learned at the FGS conference (I wasn't listening as hard as I should have) that on some of our Confederate ancestors, the National Archives has lots of records, as the US government wanted to know which Confederates owned money. (Wish I had listened better. Some of you who are smart with google.com might find some answers for all of us.) Of course, by 1861 and later, Dabney Harris would have been an OLD man, had he lived. EWW