Dianna Thank you for the offer. My end of the liners and the last of my "known" that I am looking at are: John RIDER of Newport and Freelove HILL of Freetown who were married in Swansea by Joseph Mason esq. on 4 Apr 1736. (This probably puts their births in the 1700s or 1710s.) According to information in a book on a Greene lineage, Freelove's parents were a Joshua HILL and Judith TUCKER with Joshua being a probable descendent of John Hill. I think this parent information may have come from a Briggs descendent who corresponded with the author. But the author did not clearly identify the source of the info. I have the Hill lineage that appeared in the NEH&GR and the Hill listed in the "Dictionary". No entries match this Hill/Tucker nor did I see any mentioned as residing in Freetown; however several branches were not traced fully. I have neither proved descent from this John Hill nor disproved it or that this Joshua and Judith were her parents. Lisa Just as an FYI I did a little looking on those Masons I mentioned in my initial message and I think they were all Baptist ministers, sons and grandsons of a Sampson Mason. Also John and Freelove's first two kids are recorded in Swansea Vital Records and the next three in Tiverton VR. For the rest of the almost dozen kids, I've found no "official" records of births yet. At some point in the 1740s/1750s they moved to Dutchess Co NY. I am working at narrowing this down to a smaller time frame if possible. At some point and place John married a Rachel after Freelove's death (date unknown).