Thank you so much for all this great info. You're right, I missed the mention in the census that Michael was married first in 1907, I must go back and look at that again. The information on Lambert you've dug up is wonderful! I now believe my Rose Lambert is not the daughter of Hormisdas and Caroline. In 1920 census they have a daughter Rose age 18 listed. While my Rose is listed as wife of Michael Ronan, her age 29. Seemed odd that someone might name two daughters the same, I figured it was possible 2 daughters may share a first or middle name or vice versa. You have given me the children of Hormisdas and Caroline, these (except for Joseph) are all accounted for in the census. Now, you have however found me a new avenue of research! Knowing that Clinton county is so close to Quebec, and that Hormisdas was from Quebec, I can look for his siblings. It is quite possible he traveled with a brother or cousin to RI. You've also provided the name of another Church I can look into for Rose's baptismal records. I will write to St. Jean Baptiste Catholic Church today to see if they have any records of the other 'Rose'. You have given me many clues to follow. Please let me know what I can do in return for your most generous kindness and if there were any fees or costs involved in your searching for me, I want to reimburse you. We need more good people like you, who are willing to take the extra time to help fellow researchers!!! Thank you again. Teddy -----Original Message----- From: James FR Morgan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:03 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: French-Canadian in Fall River I'm sending this to the Fall River list in case others have this line (Lambert, Ethier, Ronan). One special note: If anyone is looking for a French-Canadian marriage in the United States in the 1800's and early 1900's you may fine them is a major film record found at the Salt Lake City Family History Library. This is a Quebec marriage listing that includes 80% on the French-Canadian marriages from the United States. (I've found many of my Massachusetts and Rhode Island French Canadian Catholic marriages). If you e-mail me with the names, possible place of marriage and about date I'll give you the film numbers, etc. Here are the facts as given to me by Teddy Ronan on her Fall River ancestors: She was looking for Rose Lambert and Michael Ronan. She believed that the earlier Ronan family members (Michael's parents) were from somewhere in Ireland (mentioned on 1820 & 1930 census. I know that Terry looked at the 1920 & 1930 census but wonder if she caught the fact that Michael & Rose married in 1911 but Michael Ronan states that he was married for the first time in 1907. (I assume the first wife died). Rose's parents were Hormisdas & Caroline Lambert. Hormisdas was from Canada and Caroline from the state of New York. This is what I found: In 1888 Guide Canadien-Francais de Fall River 974.485/F1 F24g lists the following Lamberts in Fall River: Hormisdas-Commis. St. Gabriel Adelard-Commis pen: pensionne Alexina-tisserande pen: pensionne Marie-tisserande pen: pensionne All at residence 6 Ashton in Fall River (tisserande means textile weaver) (unsure of the meaning of pensionne-may mean on a pension or invalid for a pension) (St. Gabriel is in Quebec) In the 1905 City Directory: Hormisdas Lambert-insurance agent office at 44 Borden Hormisdas Jr.-driver-boards Joseph-spinner-boards All of above lived at 41 Ashton James Ronan-fireman-boards-106 Bedford Mary-domestic at 669 Roch Michael-bleacher-house-165 Haffard Michael-deck hand-boards-516 Ferry Michael-freight handler-N.Y, N.H. & H. R.R.-boards-South Main & Chaples Michael P.-weaver-House 410 Ferry Thomas F.-freight handler-N.Y., N.H. & H. R.R.-house 3 Palmer William-deck hand-house-516 Ferry N.Y., N.H. & H.R.R. means New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad Hormisdas Lambert and Caroline Ethier had a son Joseph who married Blanche Morin on 1 July 1913 in St. Jean Baptiste Catholic Church in Fall River. The witnesses to the marriage were Hormisdas Lambert and Charles Morin. Known children for Hormisdas & Caroline were: Joseph, Hector, Hormidas, Celina, Marie, Julia, Alfred & Rose I found the birth of Caroline as being on 4 July 1858 in Redford, Clinton County, New York (Clinton County borders Canada) with parents Henri Ethier & Mary Anderson. Her sponsors were Mose Robidoux & Jeanette Anderson (husband & wife). Mary Anderson's parents were Dominic Anderson & Rose Lebert. She was born in 1828 in Redford and died 28 March 1896 in Redford, Clinton, New York. Caroline had a brother Edward born 5 July 1862. Sponsors were Xavier Gobriaut & Jeannette Anderson. Henri Ethier's parents: a. Francois Ethier & Charlotte (married 9 Jun 1817). Henri Ethier was born on 8 February 1822 in Repentigny, Quebec, died 25 June 1905 in Redford, Clinton, New York. a. Francois' parents: b. Francois Ethier (born 31 October 1759) & Marguerite Beaudon (married 5 July 1785 in L'Assomption, Quebec). b. Francois' parents: Paul Ethier & Angelique Charbonneau.(married 1753) Paul's parents: Joseph Ethier & Angelique Labelle (married 28 November 1713) Joseph's parents: Leonard Ethier & Elisabeth Godillon (married 22 September 1670) Leonard's parents: Etienne Ethier & Marguerite Sabelee of St. Martial de Manot, diosese of Limoges, Limousin in France. Elizabeth Godillon's parents: Nicolas Godillon & Marie Boulay of Notre Dame des Aides de Blois, diosese of Chartres, Beauce, France. Also: James (Jean) Ethier (brother of Caroline) and his wife Virginie Renaud had a daughter Rose A. Ethier who married Alfred Chabot on 30 May 1906, The witnesses were Olivier Marchand & Cyril Chabot. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com