Thank you for the info. Doreen, formerly of Fairhaven, in Seekonk now. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [MABRISTO] Death Certificate Mandatory? > At 08:14 PM 8/13/02 -0400, Doreen Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: > >Could you explain to me what an orbit is and also what the New Bedford > >Mercury of 2/ 1822 is? > > Hi Doreen: I believe "orbit" was probably a typo (typographical error) for > "obit" - a common abbreviation for "obituary." At least in the early 1900s > the "New Bedford Mercury" was a daily newspaper which I remember as "The > Morning Mercury." > Isabel, formerly of Fairhaven, across the river > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

At 08:14 PM 8/13/02 -0400, Doreen Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >Could you explain to me what an orbit is and also what the New Bedford >Mercury of 2/ 1822 is? Hi Doreen: I believe "orbit" was probably a typo (typographical error) for "obit" - a common abbreviation for "obituary." At least in the early 1900s the "New Bedford Mercury" was a daily newspaper which I remember as "The Morning Mercury." Isabel, formerly of Fairhaven, across the river

Could you explain to me what an orbit is and also what the New Bedford Mercury of 2/ 1822 is? Thank You Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Hunter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: [MABRISTO] Death Certificate Mandatory? > I have a orbit from the New Bedford Mercury of 2/ 1822 but little info > other than Name and Date of death. Was a certificate of death to be > filed with the town clerk mandatory in that time frame? Thanks! > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 8/13/02 11:40:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I have a orbit from the New Bedford Mercury of 2/ 1822 but little info > other than Name and Date of death. Was a certificate of death to be > filed with the town clerk mandatory in that time frame? Thanks! > Not necessarily. I have encountered many instances where a death was reported in the Mercury, yet not recorded in the twon clerk's office. Thus, the obituary is the only reocrd of date of death. However.... Please keep in mind when recording the death date that many newspapers of that era were weekly, rather than daily. Therefore, the safest approach would be to say that "John Doe died prior to (insert date), per (reference), on the grounds thta family members may have been late in reporting the date of death to the newspaper. It is possible that your ancestor did not necessarily die between issues. Regards, Rick Turner "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."---The Declaration of Independence "I love the word 'friends'. It means so much, for we are, and should be, friends for the glory of God and the salvation of the world."---Alice C. Winslow (1856-1927), 1913

I have a orbit from the New Bedford Mercury of 2/ 1822 but little info other than Name and Date of death. Was a certificate of death to be filed with the town clerk mandatory in that time frame? Thanks!

Am looking for Townsend...........I have a Nathaniel Townsend that lived at Berkley [Bristol Co.] Mass when he married Abigail Briggs [descendant of Clement Briggs of Plymouth] in 1754 by Rev. Samuel Tobey. There was a Sarah Townsend who married Job Dean of Taunton.. is she related to my Nathaniel ? Cynthia administrator for: [email protected]

Thank you. This was VERY helpful. Susan [email protected] wrote: > Thought some of the listers would find this site helpfull > Marge > > <A HREF="http://www.boxes-in-the-attic.com/old_time_dictionary.htm#A">Click here: Old Time Dictionary</A> > > http://www.boxes-in-the-attic.com/old_time_dictionary.htm#A > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Looking for information re William STEWART (bc. 1840 Ireland) who settled had in Fall River by 1880 probably as a stonemason. There was at least one son, another William (probably born 1866 Glasgow). If we have the right son William - he may have married a Sarah McKeen in the 1890s. Other possible children of the elder William STEWART were Agnes, Elizabeth, and Mary - all born Glasgow by 1872. William STEWART (the elder) was joined by his sister (Agnes) and her husband Thomas WILSON (a plasterer) about 1882 in Fall River. The WILSONS had at least 6 children: Peter, Alexander, and stepchildren Alexander SMITH, Jane SMITH, Agnes SMITH and James SMITH.

Looking for information re George McKay (b.c. 1868 Glasgow), sister Jessie McKay (b.c. 1870, Glasgow), brother Samuel (b.c. 1886) who settled in Fall River about 1905. George's address in 1909 was 41 Carroll Street. Any information would be wonderful.

Thought some of the listers would find this site helpfull Marge <A HREF="http://www.boxes-in-the-attic.com/old_time_dictionary.htm#A">Click here: Old Time Dictionary</A> http://www.boxes-in-the-attic.com/old_time_dictionary.htm#A

I believe that the 1910 census has not been indexed. Sorry to have to deliver that bit of news. Melissa "E. Sharp" wrote: > Does anyone have a 1910 Census Index for which includes MA? I am > specifically looking at New Bedford. > > Thank you. > EJSharp > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello, It might help to check out these two sites: <A HREF="http://www.ci.new-bedford.ma.us/SERVICES/LIBRARY/links2.htm">new bedford library and many other sites as well</A> <A HREF="http://www.ci.new-bedford.ma.us/SERVICES/LIBRARY/library2.htm">new bedford public library</A> Best, Betty G., Middleboro, MA GO TO: http://hometown.aol.com/tomiami/myhomepage/profile.html to visit main surnames for my great-grandparents' ancestors, a photo of Brig. Gen. Timothy RUGGLES & other RUGGLES photos. GO TO: http://hometown.aol.com/troiscats/myhomepage/photo.html to see a rough map of the 1659 Freemen's Purchase (Freetown, MA) GO TO: http://hometown.aol.com/bellymyangel/myhomepage/heritage.html to read about John's Greek and Syrian Immigrant Grandparents

If you find one could you let me know. I too am interested in New Bedford. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Sharp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: [MABRISTO] 1910 Census Index > Does anyone have a 1910 Census Index for which includes MA? I am > specifically looking at New Bedford. > > Thank you. > EJSharp > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Does anyone have a 1910 Census Index for which includes MA? I am specifically looking at New Bedford. Thank you. EJSharp

Hello Listers, I just finished sending this information to a "new" cousin who is trying to find her Wapponaug Indian Ancestry. I thought that maybe some on the list may be trying to do the same thing, so I am sharing this with the list, I hope it helps some out there. Marge "Fall River Indian Reservation" by Hugo A. Dubuque 1907 Reservation Land had been divided off between a Captian James Church and men who had been in his company all Indian. Page 59 - 61 "A Schedule of the Lotts of the Indians Land and to whom they Severally Belong Lying In Freetown in the County of Bristoll" Offficially approved : Massachusetts Archives Vol 33 pgs 269-273 according to the book. The first Lot containing twenty seven acres and thirty two rods belongs to the heirs and legal representatives of Capt. James church who died April 1739 leaving two sons James and Isaace and five daughters Mary, Experience, Marcy, Mary and Phebe. Mary had 1 child a daughter Experience Experience had 5 children [ not listed] Marcy had 2 children [not listed] the second Mary had no children Phebe had 8 children [ not listed] James had 2 sons George and Katherine George..... [ you read right Katherine George...son] Isaac had 7 children: Isaace[ that is how it was written age 23 Comfort aged 22 Phebe aged 16 Constant aged 14 Martha aged 9 Mary aged 7 Solomon aged 6 Second Lot.... 6 acres 128 rods Tom Pim who died with children and has left 3 cousins: Isaac Church, Mercy Hope, & Experience Ward Third Lot 6 acres 128 rods belongs to Hannah Mouse & Elizabeth Penny, grandchildren of Jonathan George Fourth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to old Sam Church who is dead and hath left no posterity Fifth Lot 6 acres 128 rods James Wilcox who is dead and hath left no posterity Sixth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Old Nebe who has left 2 grand-daughters Elizabeth and Nebe Seventh lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to young James Church belonges to his heirs George and Katy. Eight Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Job Cockaway who has left a daughter Abigail Tetticut and a grand daughter Betty Cockaway Ninth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to young SAM Church who has left no posterity Tenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Joshia Quam who has left a widdow SArah Quam and one daughter Hope Penny a widow. Eleventh Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to James church Junior and has left a widdow. Twelfth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to old John Wood who has left one grandson name Samuell Thirteenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Simon Smith alias Slade who has left no posterity Fourteenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to David Rice, who has left no Posterity. Fifteenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Joseph Husband and belongs to Richard Grandson to his sister Sarh Doggett Sixteenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Joshua Church, who has left no posterity Seventeenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Sam Anthony and belongs to Ellis Anthony and Sarah Titticutt widdows Eighteenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to John Yokine who left one daughter Hanna married to Sias Hall Ninteenth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to John Weshue who has left no posterity Twentieth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Jsaace Sissel who left two daughters Mercy & Mary Twentieth First Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to James cook who left no posterity Twenty Second Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Tom Hunter who left no posterity Twenty Third Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to Sam Titticut who has left a widdow and one daughter Hanna Cooper Twenty Fourth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to John Sochomoick who has left one son named John and two Grand daughters Mary & Mercy Twenty Fifth Lot 6 acres 128 rods originally laid out to James Demas and has left a grand daughter named Lydia And where as Sundry of the Soldiers belonging to the Company under Capt. James Church have left no posterity and there being no provision made for Levitt Manchester and twelve others in the same company, the committe have agreable to directionof the Court, assigned to those who have left posterity the lotts of those who had lotts assigned to them whose Posterity is extinct. We assign to the fourth lot Debora and Expierence the daughters of Lieut. Robin Manchester We assign to the fifth lot Joseph and William grand children of Lieut. Manchester sons of William Manchester We assign the ninth lot Nancy Pelick daughter of Francis Townsend We assign the thirteen'th lot Sarah grand child of John Sosamon We assign the fourteenth lot to Peter aand Charles grand children to Peter Washunk We asign the sixteenth lot to Deborah and Penelope grand daughters of Peter Washunk We assign the Nineteenth lot to Esther Sampson, Sarah Squuire grandchildren of Benjamin Squamnamy We assign to the Twenty First Lot to sarah Quam's two children Danill & James We assign tthe Twenty Second lot to Comfort and Thankfull grand children of Benjamin Squamnamy. In the House of Rep. Feb 3rd 1764 Page 63 Fall River Tribe in 1849 Mahala Page             aged 36 George Page             aged 15 Burton Page              aged 12 Charles Page             aged   8 William Page             aged 7 Cynthia Cuffee          aged 74 Ruth Cuffee               aged 68 David Perry               aged 54 Hannah Perry            aged 55 Lewis Perry               aged 30 David Perry Jr.          aged  23 Josephus Perry          aged 20 William Perry            aged 27 Louisa Perry              aged 30 Catherine Perry         aged 1 ½ Persis Crank              aged 49 Henry Crank              aged 39 Eunice Crank             aged 39 Wm. H. Crank           aged 21 Sarah Crank               aged 52 Mark A.H. Crank       aged 21 Catherine Crank         aged 20 Thomas M. Crank      aged 18 Rebecca Alben            aged 60 Adam Abner               aged 65 Pamela Simonds          aged 40 Mary Simonds            aged 58 Daniel Slade                aged 51 Lucretia Slade             aged 41 Sarah Slade                 aged 35 Hagar Talbot               aged 60 Jermina Freeman         aged 55 Lucy Terry                  aged 44 Stephen Terry              aged 40 Maria Terry                 aged 42 James Landry              aged 38 Total 37 Page 95 has mention of Alice Northup, PameliaGardner and Abby J. ButlerJames Northup son of Catoand Alice Northup died Oct. 13th 1864 Page 96: Alice Northup mother of James, died Jan. 3rd  1865,widow. Joseph Gardner, son of LydiaGardner, a soldier in the 5th Mass. Cavalry unmarried died in Texas. Mary F. Perry , born Feb 2nd 1865 . “Four Members of the tribehave been in the Army of the U.S. in the 5th Massachusetts Cavalry, and are now in the service with one exception;-Joseph Gardner deceased, David Northup, Charles A. Page and Ebenezer Lindsey. There is one in the StateAlms House at Bridgewater, -- James Crank. And one , William H.Gardner, age 12, in the State Reform school, Westbor’o Page 97 report of Sept 1868 Three births occurred during the year, a son to Thomas and Julia Crank born March 10, 1868; a son to William and mary  Perry born 19th Feb.1868, and a daughter to Josephus and Sophia Perry, born Sept. 1868. One death has occurred viz. a son of William and Mary Perry, died on the 23rd of August 1868, aged 6 months. There is a mention of “six members of the tribe who from age and infirmity need a large part of their support from the State viz.: Sarah Crank, Pamelia Gardner, Persis Crank, Lydia Gardner and Lucretia Miller. One James Crank, is still at the alms-house, Bridgewater.

Hello researchers, I am trying to locate any information on descendants of my grandmother's siblings. She was Elizabeth Shea Hearn (1882-1924). Her parents were John Shea (1850-1917) and Margaret Murphy Shea (1848-1919) and they lived at 142 Seabury Street. Elizabeth had a sister Kate, who I think married a John Draught. There may have been an Annie, and their were brothers, for sure, named Pat (Paddy) and Mike. Talk about hard names to track in the Fall River area!!! I believe that both men were married. Paddy was a doing some coaching of a boxer (my father, Fred Hearn) in the early 1920s, but beyond that I cannot find anything. I will appreciate any leads. Joan McCarthy

The following message is from a non-subscriber of this list, so if anyone wants to reply, please address it to the sender (Maggie Lemelin). However, some on the list may also be interested, so feel free to copy your response to us as well. I don't recognize this line of Bullocks. They may be descendants of Henry Bullock (1595-1663) of Salem. Jim Bullock -----Original Message----- From: Lemelin, Maggie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: {not a subscriber} Bullock Family of Salem, MA Good Afternoon- I am currently working on a research project as part of my Master's in History program through Salem State College in Salem, MA searching the history of my house on Federal Street in Salem, MA I believe the Bullock family, in it's various incarnations, owned the property from before 1766 to at least 1924. I have learned that the property was purchased in 1766 by a John Bullock, Jr. - and the house passed to Benjamin Bullock in 1780 and Nathaniel and Issac Bullock in 1786 - the house continued on through owners I believe to be related to the Bullock family namely. Lucy Martin - daughter of George Whitfield Martin and Sally Bullock - born in Salem, MA in 1801, lived in the house as early as 1836 and bought the house from Anna (Haskell) Loomis in 1879 - where the Haskells related to the Bullocks? Maria, Deborah and Eliza Grant, daughters of John Grant - a Sarah Bullock, widow, left the property to them (minor children at the time) in 1805 - were these girls her grandchildren by one of her daughters? Sarah Caulfield - likely a cousin, she purchased the house for $1.00 from Lucy Martin in 1887. Charles Richardson - likely another relative - he purchased the house from Sarah in 1924. Upon his death, his daughter, Lucy Martin Richardson sold the property outside of the family. Does anyone have any information about this family that would help me to understand the sucession of homeowners to my property. Any information you may have would be greatly appreciated, and if you have any information, I would be glad to share my information on the family homestead. Thanks, Maggie

Hi Patty, Tried to send this to your bellsouth address but it bounced. The list I meant is the one that Joan has given the address of & yes it is a busy list but the people are very helpful when it comes to research both in Lancashire & the USA. Regards, Anita. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Baucke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [MABRISTO] Fall River, MA families > Hi Patty, > > Joan has given you the list address that I meant, it is a good list. > > Regards, > Anita. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patty_27" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:14 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [MABRISTO] Fall River, MA families > > > > Hi Anita- > > Nice to hear from you. What list are you referring too? > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > to the LANCSGEN list who have done a lot of research for me in Fall > River, > > > > have you thought about joining that list???? The only problem I now > have > > > is finding living rellies in the Massacusetts area. > > > > > > > >

My email to you bounced so I'm sending it to the list. Anita. > Hi Patty, > > I am intrigued by the similarities of our families, mine arrived in FR about > 1874 from Ashton-under-Lyne but their name was SNAPE, other members of the > family went to Chicopee. I have had a lot of luck with people who belong > to the LANCSGEN list who have done a lot of research for me in Fall River, > have you thought about joining that list???? The only problem I now have is > finding living rellies in the Massacusetts area. > > Anita. > New Zealand. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patty_27" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:34 AM > Subject: [MABRISTO] Fall River, MA families > > > > Hello Listers- > > Wanted to reiterate my searches: > > KENNY-immigrated from Lancashire England/Ireland in the 1890's to Fall > > River, MA > > MCKEON-immigrated from Ashton-under-Lyne England/Ireland to Lowell then > > Fall River, MA in 1873 > > STOREY, Jane-married to MCKEON > > MULLIN-married to KENNY > > > > Am inputting the FR Ctiy directories from 1890 and will gladly share > > them with you. > > Looking for MCKEON in the FR City Directory... > > > > Happy Hunting. > > Patty Kenny > > [email protected] > > >

Dear Patty and List, I believe the list Anita was referring to is the [email protected] list which "is a discussion area for anyone who has an interest in Genealogy or History related to the county of LANCASHIRE, England." The LANCSGEN list is comprised of extremely knowledgeable and extremely helpful people. The only thing to warn you about is that the volume of messages is usually very high. For that reason, some folks find that the digest version works well. That would be [email protected] My ancestors, too, came over from Ashton-under-Lyne (now part of Manchester), England. My first small group came over in 1873 and the second in 1887. Although they settled mainly in the Pawtucket, RI area, the branch of the family from whom I descend did eventually make their way to Fall River and settled there. Without LANCSGEN, MABRISTO and RIGENWEB, I wouldn't know a fraction about my ancestors as I do now. Good luck, Joan S. Ardsley, NY always looking for a ROCKCLIFFE, no matter how it's spelled....