Hello Marg; just return from genealogical society, where they have indexes to mass deaths. located a James C. WALKER, a Jeweler, died in Attleborough, (May 1, 1882) age 35 years, Male, Married, (cause of death, Apoplexy), (born: England), (Parents: John and KEREN (sic.)), (Birthplace of Parents: England). REFERENCE: Massachusetts Vital Records Volume 337, Page 72, Line 78........ hope this helps you, Norm

Dale gives Good Links! Sorry that I can't do that for mine, but I do believe there is one for the first. You may want to go through Cyndi's List to find it or do a Google search as "state"+"vital records". 1.) The Commonwealth of Massachusetts has all records from about 1850 (I've seen individual sheets earlier on the microfilms)to now. These are indexed in 5 year increments (1851-1856, etc) by Type and then, if marriage, by groom and by bride. The value here is that you can search by surnname under Births. Your person may or may not have been actually born in (No.) A. Going to the state allows a quicker & wider search. These can be written for to their offices at Columbia Point (yes there's a fee & see note above). This department is commonly referred to as the State Archives. Hours of Operation have changed again. Call or write if you plan to visit. 2.) The N E Hist Gen Soc provides a search & copy service for its members which is much faster. The Society now has the States' consolidated indexes in their research library, which facilitates coming up with a correct name/date, etc. (The State Archives people are helpful but really need the correct info.) The society's volunteers can then get a copy for you. Again, there's a fee. Go to their web-site, <www.newenglandancestors.com> I'm a member there and do go in occaisonally, but with all the above & Dale's leads, you should be able to find the information you need. Robert M. Gerrity YANKEE ANCESTRY P. O. Box 2814 Acton, MA 01720 >From: Dale H Cook <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MABRISTO] Fw: How to find a death record c 1881/2 ?? >Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:48:41 -0500 > >On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:23:42 +1100 "margm" <[email protected]> >writes: > > > Sadly I got no responses to my enquiry. Do I have the right > > list?? > > snip < > > Family story says he died but dont know exactly where , > > when or what from ??????? > >Marg - > >In order to get a Massachusetts death record for someone it helps to know >where he died. The records are kept by the individual city and town >clerks. Since your ggm was living in Attleborough (now Attleboro - the >name was shortened when it became a city in 1914) that is the reasonable >place to start. The vital records for Attleboro are published only >through 1850, so you would want to contact: > >Attleboro City Clerk >77 Park St. >Attleboro, MA 02703 >508-223-2222, Ext. 3111 > >City web site: >http://ci.attleboro.ma.us/ >(The City Clerk does not appear to have a page) > >Note that North Attleborough became a seperate town in 1887. If you have >no luck with Attleboro try: > >North Attleborough Town Clerk >43 S. Washington St. >North Attleborough, MA 02760-1642 >508-699-0108 > >Town web site: >http://north-attleboro.ma.us/ > >Town Clerk: >http://north-attleboro.ma.us/government/departments/town_clerk/ > >Dale H. Cook >USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns >http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Dianna - As a follow-up to Harlow's message, I would note that I've just been checking some other sources and cannot find James' origins. There appears to be no mention of him in Robert Charles Anderson, "The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633," 3 vols. (Boston: Great Migration Study Project, NEHGS, 1995), implying that he was not recorded as being in New England by 1633. His marriage to Lydia is found in F. Apthorp Foster, ed., "Vital Records of Scituate, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850," 2 vols. (Boston: NEHGS, 1909), v. 2, p. 107: DOUGHTEY, James and Lydia Turner, d. Humph, Aug. 15, 1649.* (The asterisk indicates that the intention is not recorded). For more information on Lydia Turner's mother see Vernon Dow Turner, "Lydia Gaymer, the Wife of Humphrey Turner of Scituate," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, v. 151 [July 1977], pp. 286-290. No information is given there about James. Dale H. Cook USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:23:42 +1100 "margm" <[email protected]> writes: > Sadly I got no responses to my enquiry. Do I have the right > list?? > snip < > Family story says he died but dont know exactly where , > when or what from ??????? Marg - In order to get a Massachusetts death record for someone it helps to know where he died. The records are kept by the individual city and town clerks. Since your ggm was living in Attleborough (now Attleboro - the name was shortened when it became a city in 1914) that is the reasonable place to start. The vital records for Attleboro are published only through 1850, so you would want to contact: Attleboro City Clerk 77 Park St. Attleboro, MA 02703 508-223-2222, Ext. 3111 City web site: http://ci.attleboro.ma.us/ (The City Clerk does not appear to have a page) Note that North Attleborough became a seperate town in 1887. If you have no luck with Attleboro try: North Attleborough Town Clerk 43 S. Washington St. North Attleborough, MA 02760-1642 508-699-0108 Town web site: http://north-attleboro.ma.us/ Town Clerk: http://north-attleboro.ma.us/government/departments/town_clerk/ Dale H. Cook USGenWeb Plymouth County MA Towns http://www.rootsweb.com/~macbrock/sites.html

Phillip, This could be her! From ancestry.com: Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Marriages, Intentions, Births, Deaths, with Supplement containing the Record of 1896, Colonial Returns, Lists of the Early Settlers, Purchasers, Freemen, Inhabitants, the Soldiers serving in Philip's War and the Revolution. Births Record #: 3:124 Name: Mary Wheaton Relative: chi:Joseph Wheaton; chi:Bethiah Wheaton Birth Date: 08 Oct 1789 Hope this helps! Happy Holidays! Jan -----Original Message----- From: Phil Gray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MABRISTO] WHEATON My ggggrandmother was Mary WHEATON. According to her tombstone inscription, she was born 1 May 1789 and died 9 April 1868. She is buried in Fillmore County, MN. According to the census and oral family history, she was born in Swansea or Rehoboth, MA. Can anyone help me with a VR of her birth or any other information. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Phillip Gray ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My ggggrandmother was Mary WHEATON. According to her tombstone inscription, she was born 1 May 1789 and died 9 April 1868. She is buried in Fillmore County, MN. According to the census and oral family history, she was born in Swansea or Rehoboth, MA. Can anyone help me with a VR of her birth or any other information. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Phillip Gray

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Thanks Erin, I already have the 1930 census info, but thanks, Craig > [Original Message] > From: Erin Bradshaw <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 11/26/02 12:18:24 AM > Subject: Re:Craig [MABRISTO] Taunton 1930-1933 city directories > > Craig, > > 1930 Census MA, Bristol Co., Taunton City > > Crossland, Elmer A. M W 32 (21-age at first marriage) b. Rhode > Island, f. b. R.I., m. b. R.I., manager, retail store > Lillian E wife F W 32 (21), b. England, f. b. England, m. b. > England > Barbara E dau, F W 8, b. R.I. > Everett J son M W 6, b. R.I. > Ruth M dau F W 3+?/12, b. MA > Elmer R. jr son M W 4/12, b. MA > > family living on 270 Bay Street > > Erin > [email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Craig Crowell Baker --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Craig, 1930 Census MA, Bristol Co., Taunton City Crossland, Elmer A. M W 32 (21-age at first marriage) b. Rhode Island, f. b. R.I., m. b. R.I., manager, retail store Lillian E wife F W 32 (21), b. England, f. b. England, m. b. England Barbara E dau, F W 8, b. R.I. Everett J son M W 6, b. R.I. Ruth M dau F W 3+?/12, b. MA Elmer R. jr son M W 4/12, b. MA family living on 270 Bay Street Erin [email protected]

Does anyone have any kind of index for the 1910 census?

Does anyone have access to the 1930 through 1933 city directories of Taunton? If so, can you please look for Elmer Crossland? Craig

Dear Listers Found in the 1880 US on -line census one of my husbands gtgt grandmothers, Eliza WALKER , living in Attleborough after migrating to the US from Birmingham, UK Her first husband, James Caleb WALKER was a jeweller ....... Family story says he died but dont know exactly where , when or what from ??????? She returned to Birmingham with their daughter, Elisabeth. Married husband # 2 in 1884 and came out to Australia in 1885 where they settled . Hope someone can help ! Many thanks Bye Marg Morters Member of Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

And I just received a message from Naisp., that they were switching to new mail servers so for a period of 2 days I had very little mail from any list and actually only local mail...just a co-incidence with that and slow period like Jim., said and sure nice to know at least its still working Thanks all....Gil Jim Bullock wrote: > It seems to be just a slow period. There were only 3 messages in the > last week: 2 on the subject "Photos of Palmer River" Nov. 17 and 1 on > "Vinals of New Bedford" Nov. 21. > > There have actually been others attempting to post to this list (and > other lists) that RootsWeb screens out for us. I see them in my > administrator's mail; they range from the "get rich quick" variety to > porn ads, etc. > > Incidentally, I'll be gone for the next 2 weeks but will occasionally > check the list from the cyber cafes of England. (Couldn't refuse > British Airways roundtrip Denver-London tickets @ $197.50.) I'll be in > that area where many town names are familiar to Bristol county and other > Plymouth Colony researchers, e.g. Taunton, Bristol, Dartmouth, as well > as Plymouth, Weymouth, Barnstable, and Falmouth. > > It has always seemed odd to me that so many Plymouth Colony towns get > their names from southwestern England when about 60% of the immigrants > came from 9 eastern counties, the largest contingents being from > Suffolk, Essex, and Norfolk. I guess the name Plymouth is > understandable since that was the Pilgrims' final point of departure, > but I don't know what association there was with the other SW towns. > > The Puritans, who came later, did use the East Anglican names like > Boston, Cambridge, Ipswich, Braintree, and Sudbury. > > Jim Bullock > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paulette [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MABRISTO] TEST > > Gil's correct. I haven't received any mail for exactly one week. Are > we > all asleep? > Paulette Edes Waggoner > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - GENEALOGY - LIKE A BRIDGE THAT SPANS THE AGES AND WATERS OF LIFE ! © 1999-2002 Gilbert Bagley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm still busy. Just yesterday I was told of a relative, born in Newport around 1915: Elizabeth Doran. She later married and man named Carr and then a man named Onzen (spelling?). She lived in the Westport, MA area around 1960. Anyone happen to know anything about her or her children? Jim McCarthy To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: RE: [MABRISTO] TEST > It seems to be just a slow period. There were only 3 messages in the > last week: 2 on the subject "Photos of Palmer River" Nov. 17 and 1 on > "Vinals of New Bedford" Nov. 21. >

I am searching for any information of a ggg-uncle, WILLIAM JOHN TAYLOR. He is the some of Hugh Taylor and Bridger Ferguson, born in Ardrossan, Ayr. Scotland, May, 29, 1859. I do not know when he came to the states, in 1909 my grandfather came and in his passenger record states the he was going to his uncle Wm. Taylor, 921 Slade St. Fall River, Mass. Does anyone have him in thier line or any information would be appreciated.

It seems to be just a slow period. There were only 3 messages in the last week: 2 on the subject "Photos of Palmer River" Nov. 17 and 1 on "Vinals of New Bedford" Nov. 21. There have actually been others attempting to post to this list (and other lists) that RootsWeb screens out for us. I see them in my administrator's mail; they range from the "get rich quick" variety to porn ads, etc. Incidentally, I'll be gone for the next 2 weeks but will occasionally check the list from the cyber cafes of England. (Couldn't refuse British Airways roundtrip Denver-London tickets @ $197.50.) I'll be in that area where many town names are familiar to Bristol county and other Plymouth Colony researchers, e.g. Taunton, Bristol, Dartmouth, as well as Plymouth, Weymouth, Barnstable, and Falmouth. It has always seemed odd to me that so many Plymouth Colony towns get their names from southwestern England when about 60% of the immigrants came from 9 eastern counties, the largest contingents being from Suffolk, Essex, and Norfolk. I guess the name Plymouth is understandable since that was the Pilgrims' final point of departure, but I don't know what association there was with the other SW towns. The Puritans, who came later, did use the East Anglican names like Boston, Cambridge, Ipswich, Braintree, and Sudbury. Jim Bullock -----Original Message----- From: Paulette [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MABRISTO] TEST Gil's correct. I haven't received any mail for exactly one week. Are we all asleep? Paulette Edes Waggoner

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Gil's correct. I haven't received any mail for exactly one week. Are we all asleep? Paulette Edes Waggoner

I'm getting closer and closer to finding this family...... Lavinia Ann T. Lavare Vinal, was born in 1826 in Westport, MA, and died in 1907 in New Bedford, MA. She was the widow of Capt. William H. Vinal. This is what the 1880 census has to say: Lavinia A. VINAL  Self  W  Female  W  50  MA  Keeping House  VA  MA  Charles H. VINAL  Son  S  Male  W  21  MA  Grocer  MA  MA  Lillie F. VINAL  Dau  S  Female  W  16  MA  At School  MA  MA  Florence B. VINAL  Dau  S  Female  W  10  MA  At School  MA  MA  Agie MC LAUGHLIN  Other  S  Female  W  14  NY  Servant  IRE  IRE  Source Information:  Census PlaceNew Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts Family History Library Film  1254525 NA Film Number  T9-0525 Page Number  113D This is actually slightly wrong because in 1880 Lavinia would be 54. There is another daughter named Augusta Vinal who died at age 19 in 1867. Does anyone have any idea whatever happened to Charles, Lillie, or Florence Vinal? Or where I could find out? Karen Flanders Eddy

Hello, I was a member of this List during 2001 and have just subscribed again. This fall I have received new information so that I can now ask for information on the correct families. I am looking for any information at all on John and Mary DEXTER who were probably living in Westport, MA, during the 1870's and possibly from the 1860's into the 1880's. Mary was the former Mary Anna CLARK/E, born in Westport in 1837. She was the daughter of James CLARKE and Mrs. Rhoda LAVARE, they having married in Westport, MA, in 1829. Rhoda's maiden name was Rhoda MANCHESTER, and she was born in Westport in 1800. I do not know when or where John DEXTER married Mary Anna CLARK/E, but it was possibly around 1860, and it could have been in any town between Westport, MA, and Killingly, CT. I also do not know anything about their children. What I do know is that by 1890 they were living in Melrose, MA. And, in 1892 they adopted a baby girl. They were Age 55, and the little girl had just turned 3. They re-named her .. Mary Anna Clark DEXTER. In 1899, Mrs. Mary Dexter died, and she was buried in Killingly, CT. Around the same time, John Dexter "disappeared into thin air." All we have on the childhood of Mary Anna Clark DEXTER are "family stories" and writing about her would only be "guesswork." But, sometime after 1900 she went to live in "The Temporary Home" in Boston, MA, where she remained until she was an adult. On her marriage records in 1911, she listed her birth-father as William CLARK/E. We have no idea who this person is. Her Adoption records which I had opened during 2001 show that NO information was known about her birth-parents. My only guess is that a William CLARK/E took her in in 1899 when Mrs. Dexter died. And, probably William was somehow related to Mrs. Mary (Clark) Dexter. Thank you for your time. Betty (near Lowell, MA) "There are two lasting bequests we can give our children; one is roots, the other is wings." Hodding Carter, Jr.