Hi Florence- This is part of my family, the John about whom you are enquiring being brother to my 5th Great-Grandfather, Ebenezer Martin. I have been in contact with Janet Martin who has done a wonderful family tree - a very thorough job researching, with citations. Janet is not a Martin herself, but her children are. You can access her site at http://www.angelfire.com/home/hammartin/. She doesn't give much information on Mercy Thurber, but you will find information on John Martin and the Martin family. Good luck! Judy Chace Needham

At 07:23 AM 1/19/03 -0700, you wrote: >It's to bad that Massachusetts is not indexed yet for 1910. >More later, >Jim There is an index to 1910 - Genealogy.com has 1910 images and indexes for all states. Granted, it requires a membership, but it does exist. Florence

Hi Terry, I'll e-mail you later today on what I have found. Nothing on the 1910 census yet as I have 8 more ED's in Fall River to go through. I got slowed down when I found my grandparents (Morgan) in Attleboro (it was on the very first film in Bristol County). I was just scanning through to find the start of Fall River ED's, I stopped to see what town and their names almost jumped off the page to me. I could never find them in Pawtucket, Rhode Island in 1910. They immigrated in 1907 from Scotland. My father was born in Pawtucket in 1914 but from 1907 to 1914 I never knew where they were. Needless to say I was very excited. I them went through all of Attleboro and found my grandfather's brother George Morgan. When I went through the Fall River ED's I went pages by page. There are two Michael Ronan's born within a year of each other living in Fall River in the 1900's. Worst of all both of them use plain Michael and Michael F. or different records. I've made copies of some entries (three so far). I've also got the info on all other Ronan and Lambert listings (lots of Lambert-one is a line from Quebec, the other England). Then when you find the right parents we can go back into the census and make more copies. It's to bad that Massachusetts is not indexed yet for 1910. More later, Jim Salt Lake City ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

At 08:42 PM 1/18/03 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have access to an index for the 1910 census? I am looking for >people in California. Ernest Soper and George R. Baker, in California. Both >were born in either Rhode Island or Connecticut and George would have been >about 21 and Ernest s little older. > Thanks, > Craig There is an Ernest Soper age 24 b. RI with wife Louise and 3 children in San Antonio Township (part of Florence Precinct), Los Angeles Co. in 1910. This was page on 118 B. I didn't find a George R. Baker or a George Baker b. RI or CT in the 1910 CA census index. Florence

Does anyone have access to an index for the 1910 census? I am looking for people in California. Ernest Soper and George R. Baker, in California. Both were born in either Rhode Island or Connecticut and George would have been about 21 and Ernest s little older. Thanks, Craig

George, Who are you looking for? "Does anyone know off-hand the US census roll numbers which contain Pawtucket 1850 (307, 308 or 309); 1860 (489, 490, 491 or 492); and 1870 (603, 604, 605 of 606). How about Attleboro? Is it on the same roll? Thanks in advance. The information will save be a trip. George" I have a little time. I will do a look up for you. email me direct - [email protected] Erin

Otis and Sarah Ann or "Annie" (formerly Louer,Lower,Lauer) met in Taunton I believe and were married there either January or July 22nd. 1884. I believe she was previously in Scituate living with her sister and brother-in- law. I am trying to find out more information about Sarah Ann, she had 3 children in Taunton Cora in 1890, Elizabeth 1892 and Clara. She died in Searsmont, Maine delivering twins one was a stillbirth and the second a boy was put up for adoption in the area. Otis returned to Scituate where Sarah Ann was buried and he remained. I'm trying to find out anything about their life in Taunton. The archives sent me a copy of the marriage record but the copy is so poor I can't read most of it. I'm trying to confirm where she was born and the spelling of her maiden name. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ~ Thanks Sherrie

Does anyone know off-hand the US census roll numbers which contain Pawtucket 1850 (307, 308 or 309); 1860 (489, 490, 491 or 492); and 1870 (603, 604, 605 of 606). How about Attleboro? Is it on the same roll? Thanks in advance. The information will save be a trip. George

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>The Census information on Rose Lambert's father gives no indication he was >French Canadian, and in fact there is an E following the word Canada, >which I had assumed to mean English. Some others on that page had an F >following Canada, but the Lamberts' were clearly E. Of course, census >information isn't always accurate. According to the 1920 census, Rose lists her father as b. Canada, but gives the mother tongue as English. Although the census information I gave on a Rose Lambert of Fall River, father b. Canada and mother b. NY fits with subsequent information in 1920 and 1930 census on Rose Ronan, it is not in line with information I see was provided several days ago which gave Rose's parents as Hormisdas & Caroline Lambert. I did not see them in 1900 in Fall River, and it was my understanding that Rose had always lived in Fall River. The Thomas and Mary Lambert with dau Rose were in Fall River in 1900, so I gave that information to the list. Again, I have no proof that Rose Lambert, daughter of Thomas was the one who m. Michael Ronan. It just was a good fit. Certainly additional information, such as a marriage certificate or death certificate would be helpful to clear this up. Florence

At 08:41 AM 1/16/03 -0700, you wrote: >I believe the 1910 census showed he had been married before. I believe >both Terry and I have copies of the 1920 & 1930 census records. I've also >got the info for 1900. 1910 census has Michael Ronan still at home with parents Thomas and Nora, and he is listed as age 23 and single. Since in 1900 he said he was married at age 23, that would mean he was still single on the enumeration date for 1910. Census day was 15 April that year. Actual enumeration for the Ronans was on 21 April 1910. >On Rose's parents (if the info given by Terry is correct) I can go back >very far on the French-Canadians but not the Ronan (Irish). The Census information on Rose Lambert's father gives no indication he was French Canadian, and in fact there is an E following the word Canada, which I had assumed to mean English. Some others on that page had an F following Canada, but the Lamberts' were clearly E. Of course, census information isn't always accurate. I have no independent information or any connection to these families - I am just reporting the census information I found that seemed to fit this family - birth locations, names, and ages. I do not know that these are the correct families, but they are the only ones I found that were possibilities based on the information provided. Hope the info provides some answers. Florence

At 05:01 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote: > Rose E. Lambert Ronan . . .lived in Fall River . . .All of her life. . > . . I'm trying to >get their birth dates and Parents names. 1900 census has a Rose Lambert b. Nov. 1889, daughter of Joseph Lambert b. Jan 1850 and his wife Mary b. Oct. 1863. They had been married 20 years. Joseph was b. Canada, and Mary b. New York. That does fir with the information from 1930, which had Rose Ronan's father b. Canada, and mother b. NY. Joseph's parents were b. Canada. He came to America in 1864. Florence

At 05:01 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote: >All of her life. Also, her husband Michael F. Ronan buried July 19, 1949. >Neither person is listed in the Social Security records and I'm trying to >get their birth dates and Parents names. A bit more on Michael. 1900 census has a Michael F. Ronan b. Aug 1885. He is living with parents James and Hamora (sp) Ronan. James was b. April 1863. His wife was b. Jul 1868. They had been married 18 years. He came to America in 1880, and she in 1883. He is listed as naturalized. I can provide full details from the census in both cases if that is of interest to you. Florence

At 05:01 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote: >An obituary for Rose E. Lambert Ronan. She was buried on February 08, 1965 >in Notre Dame Cemetery and lived in Fall River >All of her life. Also, her husband Michael F. Ronan buried July 19, 1949. > I'm trying to get their birth dates and Parents names. I have some census information for this couple and will check for more. 1930 census has Michael as 44 and Rose as 40. He was 23 at time of marriage and she was 19. I will look at earlier census information to see what other information I can find. 1900 census might have them living with their parents. Florence

Hello, Teddy I'm formerly of Fall River. Burial dates are sufficient. You should be able to write to the following: http://www.fallriverma.org/ Title: City Clerk Name: Carol Valcourt Duties: Address: 1 Government Center - 2nd Floor Fall River, MA 02722 Telephone: 508-324-2220 I believe death certs are only $10.00. Try calling the City Clerk for the proper procedure in ordering the certs by mail. Also, Notre Dame Cemetery 1540 Stafford Rd, Fall River, MA 02721 Phone: (508) 675-2495 regards, Earle Flynn Massachusetts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teddy Ronan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:01 AM Subject: [MABRISTO] Ronan/Lambert Obits > I hopeful someone out there has access to the Providence Journal or Fall > River newspaper archives that can look up > An obituary for Rose E. Lambert Ronan. She was buried on February 08, 1965 > in Notre Dame Cemetery and lived in Fall River > All of her life. Also, her husband Michael F. Ronan buried July 19, 1949. > Neither person is listed in the Social Security records and I'm trying to > get their birth dates and Parents names. Please, oh, Please can someone > help??. I would like to send for death records but don't have actual date > of death, does anyone know if burial date is sufficient. I'd hate to send > out the 19.50 each to find out they won't or can't get them without. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I believe the 1910 census showed he had been married before. I believe both Terry and I have copies of the 1920 & 1930 census records. I've also got the info for 1900. I looked at the 1910 census but did not copy at the time because the Salt Lake Library was ready to close for the night. If you have access before that check when he first married and also the same for Rose or Rosa. It is not the same year. On Rose's parents (if the info given by Terry is correct) I can go back very far on the French-Canadians but not the Ronan (Irish). Jim Morgan Salt Lake City ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:51:51 -0500 Florence Gargaro <[email protected]> writes: > At 05:01 AM 1/16/03 -0500, you wrote: > > >An obituary for Rose E. Lambert Ronan. She was buried on February > 08, 1965 > >in Notre Dame Cemetery and lived in Fall River > >All of her life. Also, her husband Michael F. Ronan buried July > 19, 1949. > > I'm trying to get their birth dates and Parents names. > > I have some census information for this couple and will check for > more. > 1930 census has Michael as 44 and Rose as 40. He was 23 at time of > marriage > and she was 19. I will look at earlier census information to see > what > other information I can find. 1900 census might have them living > with > their parents. > > Florence > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Most French-Catholics and Catholics in general only went through one funeral home. Does anyone known which one was being used between 1949 to 1965? I've had great luck in getting all of the death info from funeral homes in the past on my mother (1949), aunts, uncles and grandparents (all Catholics in North Attleboro, Massachusetts). Please reply to the list for Terry and others. Jim Morgan Salt Lake City ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:01:37 -0500 "Teddy Ronan" <[email protected]> writes: > I hopeful someone out there has access to the Providence Journal or > Fall > River newspaper archives that can look up > An obituary for Rose E. Lambert Ronan. She was buried on February > 08, 1965 > in Notre Dame Cemetery and lived in Fall River > All of her life. Also, her husband Michael F. Ronan buried July 19, > 1949. > Neither person is listed in the Social Security records and I'm > trying to > get their birth dates and Parents names. Please, oh, Please can > someone > help??. I would like to send for death records but don't have > actual date > of death, does anyone know if burial date is sufficient. I'd hate > to send > out the 19.50 each to find out they won't or can't get them without. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Terry, I'll answer other e-mail later in more detail. On Saturday when I spend the day at the Salt Lake City Family History Library I'll make a copy of the 1910 Fall River census for you on Michael Ronan. Now Ref: Obits. E-mail Providence Public Library @ www.provlib.org I was looking for my great grandfather who died in Pawtucket. They checked but he was not found in Providence Journal. Unless they had a connection to Providence I doubt they will be listed. You should get an answer within 48 hours. For Providence lists subscribe for a few days to the following: Providence Group: [email protected] Rhode Island newspapers: [email protected] Jim Morgan Salt Lake City ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:01:37 -0500 "Teddy Ronan" <[email protected]> writes: > I hopeful someone out there has access to the Providence Journal or > Fall > River newspaper archives that can look up > An obituary for Rose E. Lambert Ronan. She was buried on February > 08, 1965 > in Notre Dame Cemetery and lived in Fall River > All of her life. Also, her husband Michael F. Ronan buried July 19, > 1949. > Neither person is listed in the Social Security records and I'm > trying to > get their birth dates and Parents names. Please, oh, Please can > someone > help??. I would like to send for death records but don't have > actual date > of death, does anyone know if burial date is sufficient. I'd hate > to send > out the 19.50 each to find out they won't or can't get them without. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

I hopeful someone out there has access to the Providence Journal or Fall River newspaper archives that can look up An obituary for Rose E. Lambert Ronan. She was buried on February 08, 1965 in Notre Dame Cemetery and lived in Fall River All of her life. Also, her husband Michael F. Ronan buried July 19, 1949. Neither person is listed in the Social Security records and I'm trying to get their birth dates and Parents names. Please, oh, Please can someone help??. I would like to send for death records but don't have actual date of death, does anyone know if burial date is sufficient. I'd hate to send out the 19.50 each to find out they won't or can't get them without.

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