----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwenda" <gwendaelin@mindspring.com> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] Family BOURA - GUEBLE > Very Important question. Could Charles have had another name he used > besides Charles. I can't find him anywhere. He is the mystery. > > I found Christopher on this 1930 Great Barrington census record. What > works > is that "Christopher Boura" is the father-in-law as well as being 90. > Birthdate 1869 to 1930. > Justine must be his daughter named after her mother, Justine. Justine > married at age 16 and Louis married at age 22. > (I have the "Muller" name in my family. It is German and the U has an > accent over it. The u is a long u. It is really Mueller spelled the > English way (Miller) or Müller the German way if anyone starts looking for > Louis. Not sure what the family did in the USA.) Louis was born in > France > but his father was born in Switzerland and his mother was born in Belgium > so > he spoke French. Louis came to the USA in 1888 and so did Justine. They > may have come married. Christopher came in 1887 and they are not > naturalized. Louis is a pastry chef at a private club. > 1930 United States Federal Census > about Justine Muller > Name: Justine Muller > [Justine Boura] > Home in 1930: Great Barrington, Berkshire, Massachusetts > > Age: 57 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 > Relation to Head of House: Wife > Father's Name: Christopher > Spouse's Name: Louis > Race: White > Occupation: > > Education: > > Military service: > > Rent/home value: > > Age at first marriage: > > Parents' birthplace: View image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Louis Muller 63 > Justine Muller 57 > Christopher Boura (Father-in-Law) 90 > William Hodson (He is a boarder) 40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found them again in 1920 in Great Barrington and the person reading the > record made the mistake. The record says 80 but very hard to read. > Someone > else is tracking them because there are changes made. Christopher is > working at a cotton mill at age 80. They have Justine listed as a widow > (strange) and Louis is missing. They have Justine's birthplace as > Lorraine > and Christopher's as France. > > > > 1920 United States Federal Census > about Christopher Bouri > Name: Christopher Bouri > [Christophe Bouse] > Home in 1920: Great Barrington, Berkshire, Massachusetts > Age: 30 years > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 > [abt 1844] > Birthplace: France > Relation to Head of House: Father > Father's Birth Place: France > Mother's Birth Place: France > Marital Status: Widow > Race: White > Sex: Male > Year of Immigration: 1891 > Able to read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Image: 1134 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Justin Muller 46 > Christopher Bouri 30 > > > The record is a little bit better this time except the name is > Mauller. Someone really helped by getting the last name > spelled correctly before me. Both the children were born in New > York. > This time they > have Justine born in Germany because it was before 1918-1919 and WWI. > They > Louis' parents and him as Swiss French but I would guess that his > mother was really > born in Belgium. Louis is a pastry chef at an hotel. Christopher > and > Louis, Jr. work > in a cotton mill and Alice works in a dress shop. > 1910 United States Federal Census > about Christopher Bours > Name: Christopher Bours > [Christopher Boura] > Age in 1910: 70 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 > Birthplace: France > Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law > Father's Birth Place: France > Mother's Birth Place: France > Home in 1910: Great Barrington, Berkshire, Massachusetts > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > Year of Immigration: 1887 This corresponds to the 1930 > year of immigration. > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Louis Mauller 42 > Justine Mauller 37 > Alice Mauller 18 > Louis Mauller 16 > Christopher Bours 70 > > > > This is him. Lorraine would have been German in 1887. His > occupation > is listed as a cultivator. > > > > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > about Christophe Boura > Name: Christophe Boura > Arrival Date: 30 May 1887 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 > Age: 46 > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > Destination: United States of America > Place of Origin: Germany > Ethnicity/Race- > /Nationality: German > Ship Name: La Gascogne > Search Ship Database: View the La Gascogne in the > 'Passenger Ships and Images' database > Port of Arrival: New York > Line: 24 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_507 > List Number: 645 > Port Arrival State: New York > Port Arrival Country: United States > > > > New York Port, Ship Images, 1851-1891 > about Christophe Boura > Name: Christophe Boura > Arrival Date: 30 May 1887 > Age: 46 > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > Port of Arrival: New York, United States > Ship Name: La Gascogne > Ship built: 1887 > Shipping Line: French Line > Ship tonnage: 7,090 tons > Ship Description: 4 masts, 2 funnels > > > > Here is Suzanne in 1900--I have not idea where Charles is and she is > listed > as married one year and she does not have a job so they could have just > missed Charles in taking the census. They are living in a boarding house > on > East 60th street. > > 1900 United States Federal Census > about Susan Boura > Name: Susan Boura > [Susan Bours] > Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York > Age: 22 > Birth Date: Jun 1878 > Birthplace: France > Race: White > Ethnicity: American > Gender: Female > Immigration Year: 1894 > Relationship to Head of House: Boarder > Father's Birthplace: France > Mother's Birthplace: France > Marriage Year: 1899 > Marital Status: Married > Years Married: 1 > Residence : New York City, New York, New York > Occupation: View on Image > > > > > They have Germany for origin because Germany owns Lorraine. > Couldn't view original image because it was not the correct one. > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > about Louis Muller > Name: Louis Muller > Arrival Date: 7 May 1888 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 > Age: 20 > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Le Havre, France > Destination: New York > Place of Origin: Germany > Ethnicity/Race- > /Nationality: German > Ship Name: La Gascogne > Search Ship Database: View the La Gascogne in the 'Passenger > Ships and Images' database > Port of Arrival: New York > Line: 49 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_519 > List Number: 575 > Port Arrival State: New York > Port Arrival Country: United States > > > This could be Justine having already married to Louis. She was 16 when > she > married so everything works except port of departure. > > > > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > about J Muller > Name: J Muller > Arrival Date: 4 Aug 1888 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 > Age: 16 > Gender: Female > Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Netherlands > Destination: United States of America > Place of Origin: Germany > Ethnicity/Race- > /Nationality: German > Ship Name: Rotterdam > Search Ship Database: View the Rotterdam in the 'Passenger > Ships > and Images' database > Port of Arrival: New York > Line: 10 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_523 > List Number: 1062 > Port Arrival State: New York > Port Arrival Country: United States > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <MABERKSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:48 AM > Subject: [MABERKSH] Family BOURA - GUEBLE > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: Nadine_MAYER >> Surnames: BOURA - GUEBLE - GAGNEUX >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/5718/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for information on the family BOURA - GUEBLE (from Lorraine >> in >> France) and who emigrated to the USA : >> >> BOURA Clément Christophe, born 23 November 1839 in Angomont >> (Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France), timber merchant, son of >> Christophe >> BOURA and Marie Anne FERRY, married on 3 October 1864 to Lafrimbolle >> (Moselle, Lorraine, France) with Justine GUEBLE, born 22 May 1845 in >> Lafrimbolle, daughter of Florent GUEBLE and Marie Joseph HUMBERT. >> Their son, Charles BOURA born in France, was married on 23 November 1898 >> in Manhattan, New York, with Suzanne GAGNEUX (born in France, daughter of >> Henri GAGNEUX and Julia ?). >> >> Do you have any information about them ? >> >> Best regards. 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