This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaxWard44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/5528.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Happy to help. Looks like Edward and Elisabeth were both born in Vermont- Elisabeth in 1865, Edward E in 1871. The family is listed in the 1880 federal census in North Adams, Berkshire County under the name "Winard" and in 1870 in Arlington, Bennington County, Vermont under the name "Winand". If you can read a file in GED format, I'll attach what I found. I haven't tried sending attachments before through the new Rootsweb system. This has just two generations, Frank, Martha, their children, and some of the children's spouses. Max Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.