Thanks so much Terri for looking. Unfortunately, that is the other KIRTON family that lived in Ma. and they were from Ireland, whereas mine were from England, and as far as I know James and Amey and their children were only in Ma. until 1839, when they left to settle in Mercer co.(now Auglaize) Ohio. William on the other hand may be either a brother to James or perhaps an eldest son. The only documentation that I've found was for William, and it is from 1839 were William KIRTON and a William Cowley together are deeding land in Ohio to a man named Dennis Halpin. It states both Williams are from Berkshire co. St. of Ma. Oddly enough, this same land and surrounding area are where James and Amey built their cabin a short time later. So there is 1 connection between James and William. The other is, William died in Mercer co. Ohio in 1841 and James was listed as his executor, but then it never stated what relationship they had. Maybe if I could find this William Cowley it could tell me more? ??? Gratefully yours, Janine ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.