This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pbutler9 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/393.386.396.621.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not sure if you have an answer yet - but I have the parents of this Aaron as Cornelius Hallenbeck (b. 1778) and Elizabeth McKinsey (b. 1778) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sallyzanger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/3571.2.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for that good news! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcgrange Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/3571.2.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I took a ride to Windsor this afternoon and drove past Windgo. House is still boarded up and barns are still there . The old Cemetery just beyond the house is in very good shape for an old cemetery. Many of the stones can be read just because of the age of them. the 1790 sign is still on the edge of the house and very clear. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
When looking for HOLLENBECK/HUBBARD connections, this marriage always comes up. What HOLLENBECK family in Berkshire are they related to? Following them: Ashley HOLLENBECK b 1810 1835 Jan 12, Nancy C Hollenbeck marriage in Alford, Berkshire, MA 1850 Prattsburg, Steuben, NY with (all born MA) Olive ROUSE 80 MA Ashley HOLLENBECK 40 Nancy HOLLENBECK 39 Orpha 14 Mary 12 Hector 10 Frances 8 Victoria 5 1860 Homer, Calhoun, Michigan Ashley Hollenbeck 50 Nancy 49 Mary 21 Hester SOULE 19 Francis 17 Victoria 15 Samuel SOULE 23 Ambrose DICKINSON 20 1870 Jackson Ward 2, Jackson, Michigan Ashley HOLLENBECK 60 Nancy 58 Mary 31 Victoria 24 Victoria Soule 5 A C Wendell 23, agent for sewing machine 1880 Jackson, Jackson, Michigan Ashley HOLLINGBECK 70 Nancy C 68 Edward Townley 62 Victoria Townley 40 Nannie Townley 6
Interesting. My wifes family is Swedish and Norwegian so I'm very famliar with the patronymic system. I did not realize where that system extended. Max -----Original Message----- From: "donald petravick" <dpetravick@yahoo.com> To: maberksh@rootsweb.com Sent: 8/30/09 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census yes, it's so problematic, and maddening. The root name Petrawitz", Petravicius, and the variants are basically a patronymic -- analogous to "Peterson" -- "Peter's son". So we can have many unrelated people with the same last name, because lots of peasant lithuanians did without last names until the 1700's. Also in Lithuaninan/Polish, it turns out that "Petrokowski" is a different sort of name than Petrawitz -- the "k" is significant. I think the only real chance of a firm identification is to find something like a "simon" with a last name something like "petra..." who is either - going to something like berkshire county, MA or - Comes from Kauszu (his little farming hamlet) or Kaltinenai (the nearby town with the parish church in it) or something identifiably near those places. So, in this case, we strike out on Zadzinski -- there's nothing near enough to Kaltinenai with that name. I've tried to search on "town" (which is town of origin) on Steve Morse's pages and struck out on Simon. (though You can see from John's Ellis island manifest so kauszu is written so that the transcriber read "ranch". On Simon's 'Cousin," Francis's, manifest the transcriber saw "ransau". Only close inspection reveals that the "R" is really a "K" on both these manifests. It'd be great to have an index on ultimate destinations, and not just towns of origin, but we have to work with what we have. FOR some time, I've wondered if Berkshire Cotton actively recruited immigrants, and if so how they did it -- for example, Agents in the "Old country" or interacting with people as they left Ellis, and so forth. As you can see, It's been a long journey, of course that's the sport and fun of it :-). -- Best -- Don --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Max Ward <max.ward@verizon.net> wrote: > From: Max Ward <max.ward@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > To: maberksh@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:36 PM > Don, > > This may be Simon - name is close, arrival is right. The > age is off by 2 > years and his ultimate destination in the US is > Philadelphia, which would > explain where he was before Adams, MA.: > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > about Simon Petrkowski > Name: Simon Petrkowski > Arrival Date: 17 Jul 1893 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 > Age: 20 > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Bremen > Place of Origin: Zediszki > Ship Name: Red Sea > Search Ship Database: Search the Red Sea in the 'Passenger > Ships and Images' > database > Port of Arrival: New York, New York > Line: 8 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_614 > > Max > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
yes, it's so problematic, and maddening. The root name Petrawitz", Petravicius, and the variants are basically a patronymic -- analogous to "Peterson" -- "Peter's son". So we can have many unrelated people with the same last name, because lots of peasant lithuanians did without last names until the 1700's. Also in Lithuaninan/Polish, it turns out that "Petrokowski" is a different sort of name than Petrawitz -- the "k" is significant. I think the only real chance of a firm identification is to find something like a "simon" with a last name something like "petra..." who is either - going to something like berkshire county, MA or - Comes from Kauszu (his little farming hamlet) or Kaltinenai (the nearby town with the parish church in it) or something identifiably near those places. So, in this case, we strike out on Zadzinski -- there's nothing near enough to Kaltinenai with that name. I've tried to search on "town" (which is town of origin) on Steve Morse's pages and struck out on Simon. (though You can see from John's Ellis island manifest so kauszu is written so that the transcriber read "ranch". On Simon's 'Cousin," Francis's, manifest the transcriber saw "ransau". Only close inspection reveals that the "R" is really a "K" on both these manifests. It'd be great to have an index on ultimate destinations, and not just towns of origin, but we have to work with what we have. FOR some time, I've wondered if Berkshire Cotton actively recruited immigrants, and if so how they did it -- for example, Agents in the "Old country" or interacting with people as they left Ellis, and so forth. As you can see, It's been a long journey, of course that's the sport and fun of it :-). -- Best -- Don --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Max Ward <max.ward@verizon.net> wrote: > From: Max Ward <max.ward@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > To: maberksh@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:36 PM > Don, > > This may be Simon - name is close, arrival is right. The > age is off by 2 > years and his ultimate destination in the US is > Philadelphia, which would > explain where he was before Adams, MA.: > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > about Simon Petrkowski > Name: Simon Petrkowski > Arrival Date: 17 Jul 1893 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 > Age: 20 > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Bremen > Place of Origin: Zediszki > Ship Name: Red Sea > Search Ship Database: Search the Red Sea in the 'Passenger > Ships and Images' > database > Port of Arrival: New York, New York > Line: 8 > Microfilm Serial: M237 > Microfilm Roll: M237_614 > > Max > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
Don, This may be Simon - name is close, arrival is right. The age is off by 2 years and his ultimate destination in the US is Philadelphia, which would explain where he was before Adams, MA.: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Simon Petrkowski Name: Simon Petrkowski Arrival Date: 17 Jul 1893 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Age: 20 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Bremen Place of Origin: Zediszki Ship Name: Red Sea Search Ship Database: Search the Red Sea in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York, New York Line: 8 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_614 Max
max this is a great find! I've been looking for john in ELlis island. This is "my" John and "my" Simon. Thanks so much! H I can now see that using steve Morse's tool he is; Petroviere, Jonos from Rank (the town is actually Kauszu - I know this from other sources.) I've never been able to find john or Simon at ellis island. -- Simon seems to have arrived in 1894 at age 18, according to the 1900 census. Simon first shows up in the adams town directory of 1899. (where he was in 1894-late 1898, when the 1899 directory was compiled is still TBD). I'm dotting I's and crossing T's on family history. There was a Jurgis, Francis, wo lived in Adams. I have their marriage, WWI, and data from Adams directories. and a second John -- John Anton who lived in NOrth adams.) they are all related. - I have a pretty considerable dataset that reaches back to Lithuania to about 1800. Atht eh turn of the century, Adams/ North Adams was a hotbed of these "petravicai". I'm not sure that there are any left in Adams. -- Thanks! -- DOn --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Max Ward <max.ward@verizon.net> wrote: > From: Max Ward <max.ward@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > To: maberksh@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 4:16 PM > One last record- this appears to be > John Petrovicz's arrival (he is going to > Adams, MA to meet his brother): > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > about Jonas Petrovicze > Name: Jonas Petrovicze > Arrival Date: 12 Jul 1900 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 > Age: 18 > Gender: Male > Port of Departure: Bremen > Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: Russian > Ship Name: Kaiserin Maria Theresia > Search Ship Database: Search the Kaiserin Maria Theresia in > the 'Passenger > Ships and Images' database > Port of Arrival: New York, New York > Line: 12 > Microfilm Serial: 15 > Microfilm Roll: T715_138 > Page Number: 75 > > (Also, this record is difficult to read, but it appears > that his brother's > name may be written on the list to the right- and it may > say Simon. > > There is a Simon Petrowicz who was married in Adams on 23 > Sep 1902, age 26, > from Russia, parents Paul Petrowicz and Mary ??. Bride was > Stefania > Pilifowicz, age 19 from Russia). > > Max > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
One last record- this appears to be John Petrovicz's arrival (he is going to Adams, MA to meet his brother): New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Jonas Petrovicze Name: Jonas Petrovicze Arrival Date: 12 Jul 1900 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Age: 18 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Bremen Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: Russian Ship Name: Kaiserin Maria Theresia Search Ship Database: Search the Kaiserin Maria Theresia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York, New York Line: 12 Microfilm Serial: 15 Microfilm Roll: T715_138 Page Number: 75 (Also, this record is difficult to read, but it appears that his brother's name may be written on the list to the right- and it may say Simon. There is a Simon Petrowicz who was married in Adams on 23 Sep 1902, age 26, from Russia, parents Paul Petrowicz and Mary ??. Bride was Stefania Pilifowicz, age 19 from Russia). Max
One more birth record: 30 Nov 1915, Peter Paul Petrovitch, father John Petrovitch, mother's maiden name, Michalina Norbitaile, both parents from Russia. Max -----Original Message----- From: maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max Ward Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:31 PM To: maberksh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census This one's better. Also from Mass vital records, marriage in Adams, 14 May 1904 by Priest M F Kopythiewicz: Groom: John Petrovitch, 24 yrs, 1st marriage, weaver, born Russia, father Paul Petrovitch, mother Franceska Kovetski, Bride: Metalceia (SP?) Norbutaik, 18 yrs, 1st marriage, weaver, born Russia, father Michael Norbutaik, mother Josefa Blodckheit (sp?) Max -----Original Message----- From: Max Ward [mailto:max.ward@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:19 PM To: 'maberksh@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census >From Mass vital records, NEGHS, there is this birth record: John Petrof, born 1 Mar 1906 in Adams, father John Petrof, Mill Operator, mother's maiden name Mikolnia Norbuti. Both parents from Austria. Not sure this is them but it's a good possibility. Max -----Original Message----- From: maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kay Stanton Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:23 AM To: maberksh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census Good morning, Don... 1920 Federal Census shows John Petro, head, 37 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill Madaleine, wife, 30 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill John, son, 13 years old Ellen,daughter, 10 years old Peter, son 4 years old Both parents immigrated in 1901 from Lithuania. All children were born in Massachusetts Hope this helps... Kay Stanton Daytona Beach, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "donald petravick" <dpetravick@yahoo.com> To: <MABERKSH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > Hi all, > > I am trying to find if someone named John Petro/Petravicz or similar last > name is listed in the 1910 Adams, MA census, He was at 54 hoosac in the > 1910 adams, MA directory. > > I only have access to heritage quest, I cannot find him by surname search. > I cannot find the right address by browsing. If anyone can find him, I'd > appreciate knowing the enumeration district/sheet number. I'm interested > in > determining his immigration date. > > -- Thanks > -- Don > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This one's better. Also from Mass vital records, marriage in Adams, 14 May 1904 by Priest M F Kopythiewicz: Groom: John Petrovitch, 24 yrs, 1st marriage, weaver, born Russia, father Paul Petrovitch, mother Franceska Kovetski, Bride: Metalceia (SP?) Norbutaik, 18 yrs, 1st marriage, weaver, born Russia, father Michael Norbutaik, mother Josefa Blodckheit (sp?) Max -----Original Message----- From: Max Ward [mailto:max.ward@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:19 PM To: 'maberksh@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census >From Mass vital records, NEGHS, there is this birth record: John Petrof, born 1 Mar 1906 in Adams, father John Petrof, Mill Operator, mother's maiden name Mikolnia Norbuti. Both parents from Austria. Not sure this is them but it's a good possibility. Max -----Original Message----- From: maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kay Stanton Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:23 AM To: maberksh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census Good morning, Don... 1920 Federal Census shows John Petro, head, 37 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill Madaleine, wife, 30 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill John, son, 13 years old Ellen,daughter, 10 years old Peter, son 4 years old Both parents immigrated in 1901 from Lithuania. All children were born in Massachusetts Hope this helps... Kay Stanton Daytona Beach, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "donald petravick" <dpetravick@yahoo.com> To: <MABERKSH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > Hi all, > > I am trying to find if someone named John Petro/Petravicz or similar last > name is listed in the 1910 Adams, MA census, He was at 54 hoosac in the > 1910 adams, MA directory. > > I only have access to heritage quest, I cannot find him by surname search. > I cannot find the right address by browsing. If anyone can find him, I'd > appreciate knowing the enumeration district/sheet number. I'm interested > in > determining his immigration date. > > -- Thanks > -- Don > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>From Mass vital records, NEGHS, there is this birth record: John Petrof, born 1 Mar 1906 in Adams, father John Petrof, Mill Operator, mother's maiden name Mikolnia Norbuti. Both parents from Austria. Not sure this is them but it's a good possibility. Max -----Original Message----- From: maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:maberksh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kay Stanton Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:23 AM To: maberksh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census Good morning, Don... 1920 Federal Census shows John Petro, head, 37 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill Madaleine, wife, 30 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill John, son, 13 years old Ellen,daughter, 10 years old Peter, son 4 years old Both parents immigrated in 1901 from Lithuania. All children were born in Massachusetts Hope this helps... Kay Stanton Daytona Beach, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "donald petravick" <dpetravick@yahoo.com> To: <MABERKSH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > Hi all, > > I am trying to find if someone named John Petro/Petravicz or similar last > name is listed in the 1910 Adams, MA census, He was at 54 hoosac in the > 1910 adams, MA directory. > > I only have access to heritage quest, I cannot find him by surname search. > I cannot find the right address by browsing. If anyone can find him, I'd > appreciate knowing the enumeration district/sheet number. I'm interested > in > determining his immigration date. > > -- Thanks > -- Don > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Kay, many thanks! --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Kay Stanton <kay-stanton@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > From: Kay Stanton <kay-stanton@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > To: maberksh@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 7:23 AM > Good morning, Don... > > 1920 Federal Census shows > John Petro, head, 37 years old, worked as weaver in cotton > mill > Madaleine, wife, 30 years old, worked as weaver in cotton > mill > John, son, 13 years old > Ellen,daughter, 10 years old > Peter, son 4 years old > Both parents immigrated in 1901 from Lithuania. > All children were born in Massachusetts > > Hope this helps... > > Kay Stanton > Daytona Beach, FL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "donald petravick" <dpetravick@yahoo.com> > To: <MABERKSH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:19 PM > Subject: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am trying to find if someone named John > Petro/Petravicz or similar last > > name is listed in the 1910 Adams, MA census, He > was at 54 hoosac in the > > 1910 adams, MA directory. > > > > I only have access to heritage quest, I cannot find > him by surname search. > > I cannot find the right address by browsing. If anyone > can find him, I'd > > appreciate knowing the enumeration district/sheet > number. I'm interested > > in > > determining his immigration date. > > > > -- Thanks > > -- Don > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
Good morning, Don... 1920 Federal Census shows John Petro, head, 37 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill Madaleine, wife, 30 years old, worked as weaver in cotton mill John, son, 13 years old Ellen,daughter, 10 years old Peter, son 4 years old Both parents immigrated in 1901 from Lithuania. All children were born in Massachusetts Hope this helps... Kay Stanton Daytona Beach, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "donald petravick" <dpetravick@yahoo.com> To: <MABERKSH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: [MABERKSH] 54 E hoosac street in the 1910 census > Hi all, > > I am trying to find if someone named John Petro/Petravicz or similar last > name is listed in the 1910 Adams, MA census, He was at 54 hoosac in the > 1910 adams, MA directory. > > I only have access to heritage quest, I cannot find him by surname search. > I cannot find the right address by browsing. If anyone can find him, I'd > appreciate knowing the enumeration district/sheet number. I'm interested > in > determining his immigration date. > > -- Thanks > -- Don > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MABERKSH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi all, I am trying to find if someone named John Petro/Petravicz or similar last name is listed in the 1910 Adams, MA census, He was at 54 hoosac in the 1910 adams, MA directory. I only have access to heritage quest, I cannot find him by surname search. I cannot find the right address by browsing. If anyone can find him, I'd appreciate knowing the enumeration district/sheet number. I'm interested in determining his immigration date. -- Thanks -- Don
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sallyzanger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/3571.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I also looked on line and could not find anything. I think it is just made up. Young folks looking for a thrill, and they want it to be haunted. I cannot imagine we would not have heard about it. My family still lives in Massachusetts. Thank you for your checking, too. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcgrange Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/3571.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have asked around and asked at the Pittsfield Librry . Noone could remember any murders or could we find any in the newspaper. Maybe a good campfire story? I may not get up there this year. Depends on the weather this weekend Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: neilr127 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/5721.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the information. I cant tell if your Hutchesons (Hutchinsons) are connected with my David born abt 1750 as there is a bit of a gap in the time line from 1600's to his birth in 1750. Thanks again Neil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Hutchinson, Hutcheson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/5721.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Neil. The patriarch for my line was George HUTCHINSON, and he arrived in the MA Bay Colony in 1630 with "The Winthrop Fleet." He was accompanied by his brother, Thomas HUTCHINSON. George was with his wife, and they had a son after they arrived. Thomas had a wife and 5 children on the trip. There were other HUTCHINSON patriarchs in the MA Bay Colony. I'm curious who the HUTCHESON patriarchs were. (Or the other spellings.) George's descendants most remained in Charlestown, MA, Woburn, MA and in a section was renamed to Winchester, MA, in the late 1800's. Thomas died the day the ship arrived, and his widow remarried. (There is disagreement among researchers about this couple.) But, they lived north of Boston; can't think of the town at this moment. The "HUTCHINSON Farm" in what is now Winchester has existed since the 1720's. It was a 2-part farm; one half still exists but has not been in HUTCHINSON hands since 1900. The other half was sold off in 1950's. There is no on-line data base for descendants of these 2 brothers that I know of. But, I understand several researchers have the information on their computers. Betty (near Lowell, MA) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VitalRecordsProject Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.counties.berkshire/5721.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NEHGS is the New England Historical and Genealogical Society. They are a subscription service. They have many databases available. Most notably are the 1600-1850, 1841-1910 and 1911-1915 vital records. They also have The Great Migration Begins and many more as they cover all of New England. If you have extensive research in New England the membership can be well worth it. The published vital records of early Massachusetts for most towns from the earliest times to about 1850 are compilations of the births, marriages and deaths as kept by the Town/City Clerks (they have been required to keep these records since early on in the 1600s), town records, church records, gravestone records and private records. Salem, and some others, also contain information from newspapers. These are the basis the Vital Records Project and are the 1600-1850 NEHGS database. Since about 1841 the town/city clerks have been required to file copies of all vital records with the State Archives. The Archives put these on microfiche and sell them. The 1841-1910 and 1911-1915 NEHGS databases are indices to the images of these copies. The images are available on NEHGS to view. Just a note, the four western counties, Berkshire, Franklin, Hampden and Hampshire are the least well published. There are some records that were done privately on index cards and have been put on CD-ROMs by NEHGS. However, the formatting and ease of use leave much to be desired. It is best to post your queries to the boards and to the appropriate lists and hope that someone who has these will do a lookup for you. To the best of my knowledge, even though NEHGS published the CDs, these records are not in any of their databases. I may be wrong as they are always adding more stuff. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.