Thanks, John, for the clarification! A long time ago, I saw a diagram - I think it was diamond-shaped - that showed these relationships. I've tried to reproduce it from memory, but Duh! Have you ever heard of this? Does anybody know what I'm talking about? Edie in Maine

Yes, and thank you very much for it. I always wondered about this part of genealogy that can make the head swim. This is a message to be kept for future reference, indeed. sincerely, Michael J. Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "john bossidy" <j.bossidy@cox.net> To: <MABERKSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:06 PM Subject: Cousins Reomoved > This is a subject everyone dithers about sometime or other. > > **************** > > COUSINS REMOVED > > > > > > > > The child of your parent's brother or sister is your first cousin. However, your first cousin's child is NOT your second cousin, but is your first cousin ONCE removed. The CHILD of your first cousin once removed is your first cousin TWICE removed, and his child is your first cousin THREE TIMES removed (or, THRICE removed). > > > > Your second cousin is your GRANDPARENT'S brother's or sister's grandchild. That second cousin's child is your second cousin once removed, and his child is your second cousin twice removed. > > > > Your third cousin is your GREAT-GRANDPARENT'S brother's or sister's great grandchild. The third cousin's child is your third cousin once removed, and his child is your third cousin twice removed. > > > > The grandchild of your brother or sister is your grandnephew or grandniece. > > > > The sister or brother of your grandparent is your great-aunt or great-uncle. > > > > The sister or brother of your great-grandparents is your great-grand-aunt or great-grand-uncle. > > > > GOT IT?? > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a subject everyone dithers about sometime or other. **************** COUSINS REMOVED The child of your parent's brother or sister is your first cousin. However, your first cousin's child is NOT your second cousin, but is your first cousin ONCE removed. The CHILD of your first cousin once removed is your first cousin TWICE removed, and his child is your first cousin THREE TIMES removed (or, THRICE removed). Your second cousin is your GRANDPARENT'S brother's or sister's grandchild. That second cousin's child is your second cousin once removed, and his child is your second cousin twice removed. Your third cousin is your GREAT-GRANDPARENT'S brother's or sister's great grandchild. The third cousin's child is your third cousin once removed, and his child is your third cousin twice removed. The grandchild of your brother or sister is your grandnephew or grandniece. The sister or brother of your grandparent is your great-aunt or great-uncle. The sister or brother of your great-grandparents is your great-grand-aunt or great-grand-uncle. GOT IT??

I am new to this list as of today. However I have been working on a possible link for my family to New Marlborough, Berkshire County, MA as a cemetery there has just shown up thus possibly clearing up one of my brick walls. In 1790 the US Census shows that my fourth great grandfather and his wife Amos Nahum and Hopestill (Haskins/Hoskins) King were or could have been due to similar names residing in New Marlborough. My previous records only showed that they left New Salem, Franklin County, MA in 1785 with two small sons Nahum Amos born 25 July 1783 and William born 1785. The next time that they show up is in the US Census for 1800 in Columbia County, Lebanon Springs Valley, New York where he is listed as a Revolutionary War Veteran with a pension. The pension is a separate issue with separate source material that was used by the DAR to verify his status as a War Veteran. I found a letter from one of their sons Luther written to a brother in Ohio saying that "father intended to cross the great lake to Hillsdale County, Michigan but mother disapproved of the idea. Therefore father then marked his land for a donation land claim by marking trees with an ax at Hastings". I always asked myself if they had come directly to Hastings from New Salem or if they had been in other places considering the wildness of the area. Now I find that there is mention in the Daughters of the American Revolution of the gravesite for Amos King in New Marlborough found in 1956. I am beginning to think that his body might have been returned to be buried next to or near his wife's grave that is assuming neither were buried in New York. They have not been found in New York Bye the Bye. I don't have a death date for Hopestill.. Amos died in Columbia County, New York in 1839. All his children had removed previously with the exception of Luther who then moved on to Michigan as previously planned. The DAR say that he is buried in the Center Cemetery in New Marlborough. Is anyone familiar enough with the area to help me locate the grave and possible tell me if Hopestill was returned to be buried there too. What about any of the children? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. -- Daniel David Lewis Frommherz Come visit my web site www.McKenzieValleyMarket.com please write and tell me what you think of it. I am the List Administrator for: FROMMHERZ-L@ROOTSWEB.COM The surnames connected to my paternal and maternal grandfathers are: Lounsbury; Pennoyer; Busse; Pribbernow; Lauber; Bachle; Baier; Schlageter; Gerspach; Matt and KINGE-SALEM-MA-L@ROOTSWEB.COM The surnames connected to my paternal and maternal grandmothers are: Allen; Bangs; Howe; Norton; Haskins or Hoskins; Caswell; Cole; Windthrope; Andrews; Higginson; Cooke; Birdsall; Goldthwaite; Scudder; Browne; Tuthill; Swayze; Dibble Wise men who refuse to participate in the affairs of government are punished by being made subject to the rules of fools - Abraham Lincoln.

I think my brain just exploded...............but, even tho I wasn't the one who asked the question, I found the information really interesting. Thanks! <smile> Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "john bossidy" <j.bossidy@cox.net> To: <MABERKSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:06 PM Subject: Cousins Reomoved > This is a subject everyone dithers about sometime or other. > > **************** > > COUSINS REMOVED > > > > > > > > The child of your parent's brother or sister is your first cousin. However, your first cousin's child is NOT your second cousin, but is your first cousin ONCE removed. The CHILD of your first cousin once removed is your first cousin TWICE removed, and his child is your first cousin THREE TIMES removed (or, THRICE removed). > > > > Your second cousin is your GRANDPARENT'S brother's or sister's grandchild. That second cousin's child is your second cousin once removed, and his child is your second cousin twice removed. > > > > Your third cousin is your GREAT-GRANDPARENT'S brother's or sister's great grandchild. The third cousin's child is your third cousin once removed, and his child is your third cousin twice removed. > > > > The grandchild of your brother or sister is your grandnephew or grandniece. > > > > The sister or brother of your grandparent is your great-aunt or great-uncle. > > > > The sister or brother of your great-grandparents is your great-grand-aunt or great-grand-uncle. > > > > GOT IT?? > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

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Hi Darlene, According to Family Search at: http://www.familysearch.com Arthusa is female and Pardon is male. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darlene Garrity" <deegee@humboldt1.com> To: <MABERKSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: names - female or male? > I finally got all of the names of the children of Isaac Perry and Betsy > Galloway. The family came to Berkshire County from Windham County, VT > sometime between 1806 and 1811 and settled in the North Adams area. > Children are: > Sally Perry b. 1795, married Lovett Shepardson > Lyman Perry b. 1797 m. Juan Fernandez Shepardson > Arthusa Perry b. 1799 m. Pardon Russell > Betsy Perry b. 1801 m. Leonard Shepardson, John Pennel > Sophia Perry b. 1803 m. Charles Dunton > Martin Perry b. 1806 m. Mary Hayden > Willard Perry b. 1808 m. Anna Russell, Lucinda Hayden Duerden, > Miranda Johnson O'Dell > Julia Perry b. 1811 m. Ransford Smith > Mary N. Perry b. 1814 m. Isaac Allen, William Cummings > Titus Ellis Perry b. 1817 m. Phebe Jadwin > > My problem is with Arthusa and Pardon. Which one is the female and which > one the male? > Darlene in Upstate California > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I finally got all of the names of the children of Isaac Perry and Betsy Galloway. The family came to Berkshire County from Windham County, VT sometime between 1806 and 1811 and settled in the North Adams area. Children are: Sally Perry b. 1795, married Lovett Shepardson Lyman Perry b. 1797 m. Juan Fernandez Shepardson Arthusa Perry b. 1799 m. Pardon Russell Betsy Perry b. 1801 m. Leonard Shepardson, John Pennel Sophia Perry b. 1803 m. Charles Dunton Martin Perry b. 1806 m. Mary Hayden Willard Perry b. 1808 m. Anna Russell, Lucinda Hayden Duerden, Miranda Johnson O'Dell Julia Perry b. 1811 m. Ransford Smith Mary N. Perry b. 1814 m. Isaac Allen, William Cummings Titus Ellis Perry b. 1817 m. Phebe Jadwin My problem is with Arthusa and Pardon. Which one is the female and which one the male? Darlene in Upstate California

I would love to know where Andrew disappeared to! He seems to have vanished between 1870 and 1880. I haven't been able to find a death date/location. Please email me privately at proplan@erols.com if you have any information with documentation concerning anything to do with Andrew Dempsey or Mary Shaughnessey. Thanks in advance! Debbie ------ Descendants of Andrew Dempsey Generation No. 1 1. ANDREW1 DEMPSEY was born in Ireland, and died Bef. 1880. He married MARY SHAUGHNESSEY. More About MARY SHAUGHNESSEY: Occupation: worked in paper mill Residence: Ireland; Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA Ethnicity/Relig.: Irish/Catholic Comment 1: could not read or write Comment 2: 1870 census names her "Mary Dimpsey", age 45 Cause of Death: enteritis Child of ANDREW DEMPSEY and MARY SHAUGHNESSEY is: 2. i. EDWARD JAMES2 DEMPSEY, b. July 1861, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA; d. April 11, 1931, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA. Generation No. 2 2. EDWARD JAMES2 DEMPSEY (ANDREW1) was born July 1861 in Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA1, and died April 11, 1931 in Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA2. He married BRIDGET SCANLON/SCANLAN January 13, 1886 in Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA3, daughter of JAMES SCANLAN and BRIDGET BURNS. Notes for EDWARD JAMES DEMPSEY: "Edward Dempsey of Ferncliff Avenue, 70 years of age, died at his home Saturday afternoon following a week's illness. Mr. Dempsey was born in this town in 1861 and always made his home here. He married Miss Bridget Scanlon of Lee. He is survived by his widow, a son Edward of Lee; two daughters, Mrs. August Reisser and Mrs. James Shortell, both of Pittsfield; and three grandchildren. Funeral services will be held tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock from St. Mary's church. Burial will be in St. Mary's cemetery." (From The Berkshire Eagle dated 1931) Possibly he was born in 1861. Census records of Lee, Ma. in 1870 list him as Eddie Dimpsey, age 10. Various records have indicated his birth year between 1859-1861. 1900 Census, enumeration district 39, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma. indicates he was born in July, 1861 and was a "helper-engineer -- papermaker". He could read and write. According to "Child's Directory" 1884-85, Town of Lee, p. 144, he was listed as"Demsey Edward, Laborer". Along with him are "Demsey Nancy, (Lenox Furnace) widow" and "Demsey Thomas laborer". It is unknown if Nancy Demsey or Thomas Demsey are related to Edward. From "Massachusetts Historical Commission": Town: Lee. Address: 22-24 Ferncliff St. Historic Name: (none listed). Original: Double house. Present: Double house. Ownership:: Private individual/ Original owner: William Heaphy. Description: 1896. Source: "Valley Gleaner" 1/1/1896. Style: Queen Anne. Exterior wall fabric: Asphalt shingle. Major alterations (with dates): Clapboard covered with asphalt. Approximate acreage: 1. Setting:: South side of Ferncliff Street. Architectural Significance: A 2 1/2 story Queen Anne style house with double front entry. Multiple gables in roof. The front one with a large fan light. Small fans over each entry. Octagonal turrett at southwest corner. Oval staircase windows. Lee marble foundation. Historical Significance: This house is the third of five houses built by William A. Heaphy on Ferncliff Street between 1892 and 1906. This one was built in 1896 at a cost of about $3,000. Over the years the house has had many occupants, mostly working class families. In the 1920s it was the home of Michael and Margaret Blake (Lee Marble Works) and Edward and Bridget Dempsey (Valley Mill). In the 1930s it was occupied by William and Minnie Pleu (Eagle Mill) and by Joseph and Edith Moody (Morgan House Grill). For many years, starting around 1940, it was the home of George and Mary O'Brien. George worked for the Smith Paper Company. During the years that the O'Briens were there, the other half of the house was occupied by James and Nancy Bush (shipping clerk at the Columbia Mill), and by Frank Abele (Fountain Mill)."From "Lee Directory 1895" Dempsey, Edward Laborer East Center Street Mrs. " Frank Mary A. Maggie E. Teressa From "Annual Report, Town of Lee, 1898": Named on page 15 under the Water Witch Engine Company is Edward Dempsey. It also states, "These lists show the names of firemen who were entitled to abatement of poll tax. The tax of some have not been remitted, and if not called for, the amounts will be duly credited to the town." More About EDWARD JAMES DEMPSEY: Event 1: 1931, Buried St. Mary's Cemetery Lee, Ma. Occupation: laborer at Smith Paper Company Lee,Ma. Residence: Lee, Ma. Ethnicity/Relig.: Irish Catholic Comment 1: was founding father of the Lee volunteer fire dept. (then called the Lee Water Witch Co.) Cause of Death: pulmonary embolism Notes for BRIDGET SCANLON/SCANLAN: "Former Lee Woman Dies in Pittsfield -- Lee - Mrs Bridget Dempsey, 82, widow of Edward Dempsey, died last night at the home of her daughter Mrs. Lucy Shortell, 363 Columbus Ave., Pittsfield, after a long illness. Mr. Dempsey, a papermaker, died in 1931. Since that time, Mrs. Dempsey made her home in Pittsfield. She was a communicant of St. Mark's Church. Mrs. Dempsey was born in Lee, Jan. 27 1865, daughter of James and Margaret Lawless Scanlan. She was educated in the Lee public schools. Survivors beside her daughter, Mrs. Shortell are another daughter, Mrs. August Reisser of Pittsfield; a son, Edward of Lee; a sister Mrs. Albert Bishop of Pittsfield; six grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. The body rests at the home of her son Edward, on East Center Street, Lee. The funeral will be Friday morning at 9:30 from the home, followed at 10 with a high mass of requiem at St. Mary's Church in this town. Burial will be in St. Mary's Cemetery. The M. J. Kelly Funeral Home is in charge." (from The Berkshire Eagle Dec. 1947) "The funeral of Mrs.Bridget Dempsey was held at 10 yesterday morning at St. Mary"s Church with a high mass of requiem. Rev. Henry Murphy of the Little Flower of Jesus Chapel, Pittsfield, celebrated the mass. Rev. Joseph Russell of St. Mary's read prayers at the grave in St. Mary's Cemetery. Bearers were Marcell Finnegan, James Thompson, William Pleau, Thomas McGinity, James Curley and John McTigue, all of Lee." (from The Berkshire Eagle, date unknown) More About BRIDGET SCANLON/SCANLAN: Occupation: mill operator, laundress, housewife Residence: Lee, Ma.; Pittsfield, Ma. Ethnicity/Relig.: Irish Catholic Comment 1: also lived at 363 Columbus Ave., Pittsfield 1910 Census indicates she was born in 1867 She could read and write Cause of Death: cerebral hemmorhage Children of EDWARD DEMPSEY and BRIDGET SCANLON/SCANLAN are: i. EDWARD JAMES3 DEMPSEY II, b. March 24, 1899, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma. USA4; d. October 2, 1963, Pittsfield, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA5; m. MARY ELIZABETH NALTY, September 15, 1924, Great Barrington, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA6. Notes for EDWARD JAMES DEMPSEY II: Vol. Adm. Statement 01 Nov. 1963 #70771 Berkshire County Probate Edward J. Dempsey was on the Lee Board of Registrars from 1950-1955 and was chairman of the Lee Board of Registrars from 1956-1959. Edward J. Dempsey - Lee - Edward J. Dempsey, 64, of 311 East Center Street, a member of the local board of registrars for many years, died this morning at Pittsfield General Hospital, after a short illness. A native of Lee, the son of Edward and Bridget Scanlon Dempsey, he spent his entire life here. Mr. Dempsey had been employed at the GE maintenance department, Pittsfield, for the past 14 years, and previously was long employed by the former Smith Paper Co. here. He leaves his wife, the former Mary Nalty; a son John Dempsey of Hattsville (sic), Md.; two daughters, Mrs. William Johnson of Lee and Mrs. Richard Smith of Old Saybrook, Conn; two sisters, Mrs. Margaret Reisser and Mrs. Lucy Shortell, both of Pittsfield; 11 grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. The funeral will be Thursday at 8:30 at the Kelly Funeral Home with a Requiem High Mass at St. Mary's Church at 9. Burial will be in St. Mary's Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home tonight from 7 to 9 and tomorrow from 3 to 5 and 7 to 9. (The Berkshire Eagle 01 Oct 1963) More About EDWARD JAMES DEMPSEY II: Occupation: painter for The General Electric Company Personality/Intrst: had much interest in local politics Residence: Lee, Ma. Ethnicity/Relig.: Irish/Catholic paper hanger for GE. Was born on Robert St., Lee, Ma. Notes for MARY ELIZABETH NALTY: Nalty-Dempsey Wedding - The marriage of Miss Mary E. Nalty, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Patrick J. Nalty, and Edward Dempsey, son of Mr. and Mrs. Edward Dempsey, of Lee, took place this morning at 8 o'clock at St. Peter's church. The ceremony was performed by Rev. Martin Murphy, who also celebrated the nuptial Mass. The bride was gowned in blue crepe de chine with black velvet hat and carried bride's roses. Her sister, Mrs. Harold J. Walsh of Torrington, Conn., was matron of honor. She wore grey georgette, a black velvet hat and carried pink roses. James Thompson of Lee, was the best man. Following the ceremony the bridal party and the immediate families of the bride and groom enjoyed a wedding breakfast at Wayside Inn. Mr. and Mrs. Dempsey left for a wedding trip and on their return will live in Lee. (from The Berkshire Eagle undated) Mrs. Mary E. Dempsey, 87, of 311 East Center St. died Saturday at the Edgecombe Nursing Home in Lenox. Born in Great Barrington Dec. 26, 1901, the daughter of Patrick J. and Mary Bills Nalty, she attended schools in Great Barrington and was a graduate of the former Berkshire Business College. In the 1950s, Mrs. Dempsey was employed by several local insurance companies. Her husband, Edward J. Dempsey, died Oct. 1, 1963. She was a resident of Lee for 64 years and was a communicant of St. Mary's Church. She leaves a son, John N. Dempsey of Laurel, Md.; two daughters, Mrs. Evelyn Johnson of Lee, and Mrs. Sheila Smith of West Hartford, Conn; a sister, Mrs. Florence Walsh of Torrington, Conn; 11 grandchildren and 11 great-grandchildren. The funeral will be tomorrow at 9:15 from the Kelly Funeral Home with a Liturgy of Christian Burial at 10 at St. Mary's Church. Burial will be in St. Mary's Cemetery. Calling hours will be at the funeral home today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9. Memorial donations may be made to either St. Mary's Church or the Association of the Blind in care of the funeral home. (information from Berkshire Eagle obituary 01 Jan 1989) More About MARY ELIZABETH NALTY: Occupation: housewife Personality/Intrst: loved to laugh ii. EVELYN DEMPSEY, b. January 26, 1904, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA; d. August 1, 1913, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA. iii. FRANCIS DEMPSEY, b. February 1, 1886, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA7; d. September 30, 1900, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA. iv. LUCY ETTA DEMPSEY, b. December 12, 1895, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA; m. JAMES SHORTELL, June 11, 1928, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA. v. MARGARET ELLEN DEMPSEY, b. April 19, 1891, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA8; m. AUGUST EDWARD REISSAR, June 20, 1922, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA. vi. MARY AGNES DEMPSEY, b. 1889, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA; d. June 4, 1916, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA. vii. THERESSA DEMPSEY, b. February 2, 1892, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA; d. January 9, 1901, Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma., USA. Endnotes 1. 1900 Census Lee, Berkshire Co., Ma. 2. Lee, Ma VR 1931 Vol 4 pg 47 #14 3. Lee, Ma MR 1886 Vol 6M pg 102 #3 4. Lee, Ma. VR 1899 Vol 3 pg 21 #25 5. Pittsfield, Ma 1963 book 25 pg 102 #589 6. Great Barrington, Ma. MR 1924 7. Births 1855-1892 Lee Rec.Vol 2 p. 103 8. Births 1855-1892 Lee Rec. Vol 2 p. 122

Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol. 2 Hubbard, Abigail S. Riverside Cem Sunderland, MA 47, Vol. 2 11127, Vol. 2 Hubbard, Caleb, Riverside Cem Sunderland, MA 47, Vol. 2, 11216, vol.2 Hubbard, Gilles, Riverside Cem Sunderland, MA 46, Vol. 2 Vol 2, 11127, Vol. 2 Hubbard, Israel, Old Cem. Sunderland MA 56, Vol.2, 11999; Volume: 8 Hubbard, Israel J. Capt, Sunderland Cem Amherst, MA 41 Vol. 2, 10572, Vol. 12 Hubbard, Baley, Riverside Cem Egremont, MA 56, Vol. 2, 11999, Vol. 8 Hubbard, Elisha, Old Bur Gr, Holden MA 15, Vol. 2, 6924, Vol. 4 Hubbard, Joseph, Old Bur Gr, Holden MA 15, Vol. 2 6924, Vol. 4 Hubbard, Peter, Old Bur Gr, Holden MA 15, Vol. 2, 6924, Vol. 4 Hubbard, Samuel, Old Bur Gr, Holden MA 15, Vol. 2, 6924, Vol. 14 Hubbard, John, Clam River Cem, Sandisfield, MA 56, Vol 2, p. 11999 vol. 8 Hubbard, Nathaniel, Clam River Cem, Sandisfield, MA 56, 11999, Vol. 8 Hubbard, Seth Clam River Cem, Sandisfield, MA 56, Vol. 2, 11999 Vol. 8 Hubbard, Judd Immer, Chestnut Ridge Cem, Monterey, MA 44, Vol. 2 10572, Vol. 12 Hubbard, Moses, Plain Cem, Sheffield, MA 56, 11999, Vol. 8 Hubbard, Noadiah, Plain Cem, Sheffield, MA 56, Vol. 2, 119999, Vol. 8 Hubbard, Noah, Plain Cem, Sheffield, MA 56, Vol. 2, 119999, Vol. 8 Hubbard, Timothy, Lower Plain Cem, Sheffield, MA 41, Vol. 2, 10572, Vol. 12 Hubbard, Russell, Ludlow Center Cem, Beside Cong Ch, Ludlow Center, MA 55, 11992, vol. 4 Hubbard, George, North Center Cem, Granville, Hampden. MA 63, Vol. 2, 12625, Vol. 4 Hubbard, Amos, Meeting House Cem, Chesterfield NH 46, 11127, Vol. 2 Hubbard, Thomas, Hill Cem, Concord, MA 55, Vol. 2, 11912, Vol. 4 Hubbard, Titus, Tolland Cem, Grandville, MA 54, Vol. 2, 11831, Vol. 4

Inadvertently forgot BERKHIRE LIST This will help may ... Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Abstracts of Grave - Rev. War Soldiers Free in ancestry .. Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots http://ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4110.htm I know I will get 8 of this email back but find this very current to the 1776 input and srches of all these lists .. Click on link - read source info for dates/ key in the name - Good Luck in your searches.. Mimi Taylor

I would like to find dates or other HUBBARD burials for: HUBBARD, Baley Riverside Cem Egremont MA 56 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.2, p. —Serial: 11999; Volume: 8 He should be old if he was the right one, brought back from New York. I've been searching, but can't find a listing. Thanks, KM

The 1790 Census for Berkshire and Hampshire COunties are now online in the searchable databases at roorsweb. To search them just use this link for now. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/berkshire_ma/berkshire_search.htm Please note that this is a tempeory search page, I have to figure out how to make a seperate one for each county or just have this one at my New England Genealogy site. The town of Northampton is not included as the listing was lost prior to the census being published in 1908. If you view the details of a record just ignore the value of $68 at the bottom, that indentifies me. At the end of each name listed is a link for PostEms. If you have any additional information on any family you can post it there, that would include links to a web site that you have about the family. Or questions that you have about them, your email address will go on as a mailto link if you leave it. To search by town use the links at the bottom of the page. Cheers Ray -- CT AHGP http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctahgp/ Litchfield County CT AHGP website http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctlitch2/ Ray Brown's Place for New England Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbrown/ New England History http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/neh/ US History Web page http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/us-history/ US History by Hawthorne http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~rbrown/us/ CT Photo Gallery http://www.state.ct.us/scripts/photo.asp

Does anyone have family that moved from Berkshire to Oneida Co, New York? I'm working on the HUBBARD/HOLLENBECK families and am trying to follow the emigration pattern. Thanks, KM

My ggg grandfather Joseph Pike, abt 1759/60 to 1828 enlisted in the Revolutionary War from Hardwick, Worcester, MA at about age 15. After searching for a number of years, I still can not determine his parents. One wonders where a 15 year old young man living in Hardwick, MA came from. There were other Pikes in Hardwick, MA at the same time, but I cannot make connections. One was a Timothy PIKE who eventually returned to the Charlestown, MA area after the War. The father of the other family was Elisha PIKE with sons Samuel and Elisha, but Elisha supposedly died in 1749 and my Joseph was born abt 1759/60. However, my Joseph named sons Joseph Elisha and Samuel. Another interesting fact ...there was a Samuel Pike living in Williamstown, MA abt 1805 who was a member of the same Congregational Church and who may have been living with the Joseph Pike family in the1800 or 1810 census. How was he related to Joseph. This Joseph PIKE married Rebecca HAWKINS, d. of Robert HAWKINS and Rachel BUCK of Williamstown, MA about 1790. About 1813 members of his family removed to Colesville, Broome Co., NY. I am hoping to find someone who has information on any of the Hardwick, MA Pike families and am willing to share information I have gathered to date. Margaret Scheffler

Seeking descendants of the Lucius SCOVILLE family. He was born 13 June 1848 in Winchester, CT; he married Nellie E. SULLIVAN 8 November 1871 in Sheffield, Mass.; he died 14 May 1917 and is buried in the Lower Cemetery in North Canaan, CT but died in Torrington. They had the following children: Lucy A. Scoville, b. 21 November 1874 Harry Scoville, b. 27 November 1876 Julia Irene Scoville, b. 18 February 1880 Mary Doolittle Scoville, b. 2 June 1882 If you are descended from any of these people I would like to hear from you, or if you have more info as who the children married would be appreciated. Janice

I have added several towns to the Hampshire County, MA 1790 census site since the last update, there are 34 towns online now. Some of the newer ones are: Belchertown Bernardston Blandford Cummington Granby Greenfield Hadley Northfield Norwich Orange West Springfield Westfield Westhampton Whately Hampshire County included the area that is now Franklin and Hampden Counties at that time. This file is located at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/hampshire_ma/1790/ For a complete list of my web sites please visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/rays.htm Cheers Ray Brown -- CT AHGP http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctahgp/ Litchfield County CT AHGP website http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctlitch2/ Ray Brown's Place for New England Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbrown/ New England History http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/neh/ US History Web page http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/us-history/ US History by Hawthorne http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~rbrown/us/ CT Photo Gallery http://www.state.ct.us/scripts/photo.asp

I would like to find information on Bailey HUBBARD of Egremont, Berkshire, MA. I need to find out if Horatio B. HUBBARD, b. Jan. 10, 1804 was his son. Looking for marriage of Horatio B. HUBBARD and Mary HOLLENBECK also. What resources would you suggest for this time period? Thanks KM 1790 Massachusetts, Berkshire Egremont Bailey Hubbard 1-0-2-0-0 Hooker Hubbard 3-4-3-0-0 3 Hollenbeck families 1810 Massachusetts, Berkshire, Egremont Bailey Hubbard 1-0-0-0-1-3-0-1-1 Hollenbecks 1820 Massachusetts, Berkshire, Egremont Bailey Hubbard 1-1-0-0-0-1-1-1-1-0-0-1=0=1-0-0 William Hollenbeck

Looking for information on WILNER. I have a Thomas S. Wilner b. ~1820 from perhaps, the Dalton area. Anyone else have WILNER info from Berkshire County? Thanks Liz