Dear Craig, Are you suggesting in your statement below that a Gypsy man was not welcome in a Puritan Colony? According to everything I have read on what it was like to live on Cape Cod immediately after the landing of the Mayflower and other ships with passengers that followed, the area was wild, there were few men to protect small outcrops of settlements, and always the fear of an Indian uprising. The Colonists needed every man that landed to work and protect these small groups of people in out lying areas. At this time, Barnstable, on Cape Cod, had few men, they needed every man between the ages of 16 and 60 to be able to bare arms and Austin is listed in August 1643 as one of 53 men in Barnstable who was old enough to bare arms. In 1662 he is also listed as a Juryman, and in 1674 he is again listed as a Surveyor of Highways. (So much for our Gypsy). Austin proved himself in the community as an honest, faithful, church-going man who never missed a Sunday in Church. This in! formation was taken from Peirce's Colonial Lists of CIVIL, MILITARY AND PROFESSIONAL LISTS of PLYMOUTH AND RHODE ISLAND COLONIES, comprising COLONIAL, COUNTY AND TOWN OFFICERS, CLERGYMEN, PHYSICIANS, AND LAWYERS. between the years of 1621 -- 1700 reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, Maryland 1995, 2001. Originally published Boston, 1881 Library Congress Catalogue Card Number 68-24684. If Austin was a Gypsy, he was certainly looked up to in the community. I personally do not believe he was a Gypsy. Austin landed here in 1638 and no one seems to know where or what he was doing for a year or two. The next thing, we hear of him marrying an Indian maiden with flaming red hair who happens to be the daughter of the Sachem of the local tribe whose name is John Hyanno, who in turn gives a very large piece of land to help them farm and raise their family. My thinking is........Austine met this Indian Princess and in order to wed her, he had to understand the Indian customs and ways, so most probably lived in the Indian village for a while before marrying. His marriage to Little Dove, cemented a friendship between the local Indians and the colonists. Whether I have Indian blood that's fine, if I don't, that's fine too. I choose to believe I do. I have read nothing yet that says Austin was not married to Little Dove. And always the nagging question, "How did he obtain all that huge piece of prime farm land?" Sincerely, Abbie (Bearse) Clark Cape Cod ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig C. Baker" <crowe68@adelphia.net> To: <MABARNST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [MaBarnstable] RE: Mary Little Dove Hyanno > This subject has come up several times before and it really comes down to > those who want to believe, for some reason, that they have Indian blood in > them. The man from Connecticut was just trying to get some federal funding > back in the 30's. It seems highly unlikely that a man in the early days of a > Puritan colony would have taken an Indian as a wife. Also, even more > unlikely, a Gypsy man would have been allowed to settle in a Puritan colony. > That's my opinion. > Craig > Plymouth, MA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Sullivan" <ksullivan@hvc.rr.com> > To: <MABARNST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:01 PM > Subject: RE: [MaBarnstable] RE: Mary Little Dove Hyanno > > > > Jacobus presents his opinion that Austin Bearse did not marry Mary Hyanno. > > However, since the sender of the original message seemed to be quite > > vehement in her rejection of Jacobus' theory, I will say no more. I have > > no > > personal stance and was just trying to provide information. > > > > Karen Sullivan > > Visit the Alden Kindred of America > > http://www.alden.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Craig C. Baker [mailto:crowe68@adelphia.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:33 PM > > To: MABARNST-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [MaBarnstable] RE: Mary Little Dove Hyanno > > > > > > So what is the stance on this, the bottom line. Does Jacobus believe > > Bearse > > married Mary Hyanno or not???? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dale H. Cook" <radiotest@cox.net> > > To: <MABARNST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:06 PM > > Subject: Re: [MaBarnstable] RE: Mary Little Dove Hyanno > > > > > >> At 07:39 PM 2/7/2005, Karen Sullivan wrote: > >> > >>>Donald Lines > >>>Jacobus in "Austin Bearse and His Alleged Indian Connections," The > >>>American > >>>Genealogist, Vol. 11, pp. 111-118. > >> > >> Karen - > >> > >> I have had a copy of that article for some years, and have not yet > >> found > >> anyone who can counter Jacobus' arguments by presenting evidence, so I > >> continue to side with Jacobus. There have been many allegations > >> concerning > > > >> this matter over the better part of a century, and I would simply like to > >> see some actual sources, or at least verifiable citations of those > >> sources, presented the Hyanno adherents. Without verifiability it is not > >> genealogy. > >> > >> Dale H. Cook; Research Member, NEHGS; Member, Mass. Soc. Mayf. Desc. > >> Plymouth Co. 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