Hi, Taking uo the search again for my very illusive Cape Cod ancestors the Batteshalls. So far, the earliest record I have is a marriage record from Eastham 1715 of the marriage of William Batteshall(various spellings surface, even as off the wall as Badisha) and Mary Atwood. In this marriage record, William is listed as being from Truro...which implies he lived there. Are there records for Truro or records which would cover Truro pre-1715? Thanks. These folks are really hard to find, so any help in finding out about them pre-1715 would be a big help. Laura Callier

Hi, Found my Chatham ancestor, William Batteshall, listed in the 1771 MA Tax Valuation list of 1771. Among other things there was listed "4 tons of vessels." I'm pretty sure the Batteshalls were traders and sailed up and down the coast. Is there some way to find out what kind of vessel(s) he owned? Thanks, Laura Callier

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/433.2.1 Message Board Post: The only information I have is the census records. Yes he was married to Emma Cook and he lived near his inlaws, that much I was able to discern. I also found him in 1870 in KY in a census. I will keep looking but it is so aggravating not to find anything. Yes I have searched historical painters and articles nothing. Thanks for looking, Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/433.2 Message Board Post: As Sandra said, there is no Leroy Crall in the MA VR to 1910 database. Moreover there is no Leroy with a name similar to Crall born in 1847-1849 according to what is recorded in that database. A soundex search for Leroy Crall didn't turn up anyone for a year closer than 1853 and that was a Crowley. A Soundex search for the years 1845 to 1855 for (male) Crall ( in case he was not named at birth) turned up 59 possibilities, none of which looked especially promissing to me. Most were Crowell, a common name especially on Cape Cod, and there were Carrolls, Carles, Curleys, and so on, but nothing that looked to me like a variant of Crall. As Sandra's information suggests, it's hard to find a Crall in Massachusetts in the census or in the vital records. The name is found in PA, where Amos Cook came from. All this leads to the question of what, other than the 1880 census, do you have to indicate he came from Massachusetts. The census is highly unreliable for details such as that. Have you been able to find better information? Have you been able to find anything in probate records, obituaries, and so on that might give names of siblings or other relatives? Could he have been adopted or changed his name? He's listed as a portait painter--could there be anything relating to him in newspapers from the time? Is there a local historical society that might have something on him?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PAINE, METCALF, HALLETT, MAKEPEACE Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/434 Message Board Post: The Christian Advocate - June 16, 1892 Married at Ashland, Middlesex County, Massachusetts, June 1, 1894, the Rev. Harvey Hallette PAINE to Ida Eldora METCALF. Additional information: Note 1: 1860 US Census - Town of Barnstable, (Post Office: Centreville) Barnstable County, Massachusetts - Surname: PAINE - Edwin age 23, restaurant keeper - Nancy age 22 - son Harvey H., age 2 - son Natl., age 1 month - Nancy HALLETT age 65 Note 2: 1870 US Census - Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts - Surname: PAINE - Edwin age 34, laborer - Nancy age 32 - son Henry H., age 12 - son Wallace age 10 - dau Endora age 2 Note 3: 1870 US Census - Ashland, (Post Office: Hopkinton) Middlesex County, Massachusetts - Surname: METCALF - 304-390 - John C., age 37, box manufacturer - Sarah A., age 34 - son Frank J., age 5 - 307-395 - Alvah age 46, box manufacturer - Harriet age 38 - son Addelbert age 19, works in box shop - son George E., age 17, works in box shop - dau Nora age 14 - son Arthur age 7 - son Walter age 5 - dau Ida age 3 - dau Lillian age 1 - 308-396 - Charles O., age 34, works in box shop - Hellen age 25 - son Charles age 6 - dau Florence age 3 - son James age 1 Note 4: 1880 US Census - Wilbraham, Hampden County, Massachusetts - Surname: PAINE - Harvey H., age 22, boarder in boarding-house, student at Wesleyan Academy Note 5: 1880 US Census - Ashland, Middlesex County, Massachusetts - Surname: METCALF - Alvah H., age 56, box manufacturer - Harriet M., age 48 - son Arthur A., age 17 - son Walter H., age 15 - dau Ida E., age 13 - dau Gertrude age 11 - dau Lillian age 11 - son Eugene E., age 8 Note 6: 1900 US Census - (2nd Ward) Worcester City, Worcester County, Massachusetts - Surname: PAINE - Harvey H., age 41, Methodist Episcopal Clergyman - Ida E., age 33 - son Harold M., age 5 - dau Helen V., age 3 Note 7: 1910 US Census - (2nd Ward) - Connellsville Borough, Fayette County, Pennsylvania - Surname: DUSHANE - E. M., age 43, single female - godchild Grace age 16 - Ida E. PAINE age 43, widowed boarder, clerk in retail dry goods store Note 8: 1920 US Census - (10th Ward) Worcester City, Worcester County, Massachusetts - Surname: PAINE - Ida M., age 52, widowed - rents home - son Harold M., age 24, single, is an engineer at a belt company - dau Helen B., age 22, single, is a high school teacher - Harvey B. Read age 23, boarder, engineer at a realty company Note 9: Ashland, Massachusetts Directory 1890 includes: Alvah A. Metcalf, box manufacturer - Rev. Harvey H. PAINE, Pastor of Methodist Episcopal Church Note 10: Massachusetts City Directories/Webster, Dudley and Oxford City Directory 1907 includes: PAINE, Harvey H., Rev., pastor Webster: 1st Methodist Episcopal Church, page 76 Note 11: Massachusetts City Directories/Athol 1912 includes: PAINE, Harvey H., Rev., rem. to Springfield Note 12: Cape Cod Town - Information about Barnstable http://www.virtualcapecod.com/Barnstable.asp Note 13: History and old photos of Wesleyan Academy http://www.bu.edu/sth/archives/cah/trails.htm http://wmacademy.org/pages/sitepage.cfm?id=174 http://wmacademy.org/pages/sitepage.cfm?id=81&pname=Home&purl=index.cfm http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~dickbolt/WilbrahamAcademy.html Note 14: New England Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church/Massachusetts/Ashland and Worcester/Postcards http://www.bu.edu/sth/archives/cah/postmass.htm#Mass Note 15: New England Conference of the United Methodist Church/Commission on Archives and History/Local Church History/Historical Files/Massachusetts/Ashland, Wilbraham and Worcester http://www.bu.edu/sth/archives/cah/hist-ma.htm Note 16: New England Conference of the United Methodist Church/Collection of Autograph Letters/Part Three: P - includes: PAINE, Harvey H., 1859-1914. Postal card to William H. Meredith, dated Webster, MA, Jan. 26, 1904. 1 p. http://www.bu.edu/sth/archives/cah/cahletters3.htm Note 17: Short history of Barnstable, Barnstable County, Massachusetts 1890 - includes Methodist Episcopal Churches http://capecodhistory.us/Mass1890/Barnstable1890.htm Note 18: New England Conference of the United Methodist Church/Archives/Summary of Holdings - includes: New England Annual Conference Journals of the Methodist Episcopal Church 1797-1938 http://www.gcah.org/Conference/umac/ne.htm Note 19: 1895 Map Barnstable County, Massachusetts/Barnstable http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/MA/County/barnstable.htm Note 20: 1895 Map Middlesex County, Massachusetts/Ashland http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/MA/County/middlesex.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/433.1 Message Board Post: The only Crall that I could find in Massachusetts in the Mass Vital records from 1841- 1910 was a birth record for Eliza Crall born in Taunton, Mass June 26, 1870. Her parents were Winnifred & Michael Crall. Michael was a laborer. Both parents were born in Ireland. It seems to be an unusual name. Could there be any connection? Sandra

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/433 Message Board Post: I am getting desperate for help with my g-g-grandfather Leroy Crall. I am unable to find anything in regards to his parentage. I know according to the census with his wife and family he said he was born in 1848 in Mass.. I have looked everywhere I can figure to look. I am unsure of what county or town he was born in. If someone could check around for me I would appreciate it. Pat Ison

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/432.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That's OK! Thanks for the thought. I've been told that the original papers, at least many of them, still exist and can be seen in Barnstable. Doug

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/432.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, on reading your question over again I realized I wasn't responding to what you asked.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/432.1 Message Board Post: These films can be rented at a Family History Center, and further information can be found in the online catalig of the Family History Library http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Wills, inventories, etc, 1637 to 1685, County of Barnstable Notes Microfilm of record in the Barnstable County probate registry.Copied in 1893 from the original record of Wills and Inventories of Barnstable County at Plymouth.Includes a record of Barnstable County references to deeds prior to 1685. Deeds referred to are found in the Plymouth Colony records of deeds, v. 1-5. Below is the title for a collection of 68 reels of film: Title Probate and guardianship records, 1674-1950 Authors Barnstable County (Massachusetts). Register of Probate (Main Author)

Doug, Merry Christmas and yes! The Probate and Family court clerks office is open in the old village of Barnstable (the court house annex) and there is a computer index of more modern cases and a card catalog of ancient cases. http://www.mass.gov/courts/courtsandjudges/courts/barnprobmain.html Most probate records were saved from the courthouse fire of 18?? We have extracted many of these records in summary and detail form and you can ask to see any of the old papers by case number. The clerks are very helpful. The copy machine is expensive (about 25 cents per page when I was there last) and of course the old documents cannot leave the room! Enjoy reading those old wills, letters of administration, adoptions, inventories, etc. Just downstairs is the Registry of Deeds with all the land records with grantor/grantee indexes, wonderful maps. Most land records burned in the fire and had to be reconstituted after http://www.bcrd.co.barnstable.ma.us/ Regards, Former haunter of the courthouse Ray Sears -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of declair59@netscape.net Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:18 AM To: MABARNST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MaBarnstable] accessibility of estate files This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/432 Message Board Post: I'd like to know if the original probate papers/files for Barnstable County still exist and if they are accessible to the public. I find nothing at all on the subject on the internet and there seems not to be an official page for the Barnstable Co. Probate Court. I know the volumes of transcribed probate material are available. Thanks for any help! Doug declair59@netscape.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/432 Message Board Post: I'd like to know if the original probate papers/files for Barnstable County still exist and if they are accessible to the public. I find nothing at all on the subject on the internet and there seems not to be an official page for the Barnstable Co. Probate Court. I know the volumes of transcribed probate material are available. Thanks for any help! Doug declair59@netscape.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Zuck Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/428.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you, You are correct the on-line does not go back that far, I live in Spokane WA so I am hoping after the first of the year, to find Micro-film sources of the newspaper along with the Boston Globe. Merry Christmas karen q

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/428.1 Message Board Post: Why don't you try contacting the newspaper most of them have a website and archives but not that far back. You might try the library they keep the newspapers some times on microfilm. Maybe some kins soul in the area will look it up for you. i live in western mass. which is too far away...........

http://www.kellscraft.com/captainsboston/captainsboston06.html#THACHER H. C. THACHER & CO. The counting-rooms of H. C. Thacher & Co. were at 13 Central Wharf before the days when Fort Hill had been dumped into the sea to form a part of Atlantic Avenue. Many of the boys of Boston used to prowl around this wharf and those near by, to see their fathers' vessels from foreign ports discharge their cargoes. Another interesting event was to see the Yarmouth and Cape Cod packets tie up to their docks, which were directly opposite the office of the Thachers. H. C. Thacher was born at directly opposite on the Cape in 1829, at a time when most of the people of Cape Cod drew their livelihood from the sea. At one time he used to tell his family that he knew over fifty sea-captains who lived along the main street of Yarmouth within a distance of less than two miles. He organized his firm in 1852 and for almost half a century he was engaged in the Mediterranean trade. There is not a Cape Cod family that has not had its sea tragedy as well as its romance, and the Thacher family was no exception. There were two brothers in Yarmouth, called Bartlett and Chandler Thacher. Bartlett was only thirteen years old when he shipped as cabin boy on H. C. Thacher's bark "Mimosa," which plied between Boston and Smyrna and which was captained by a live Yankee skipper named Hall. She was a clipper, and her captain used to crowd on all the sail he could. Bartlett made his first trip to Smyrna and returned safely to Cape Cod and was on the point of sailing on his second trip to the same port. On the very day that he was to leave, his younger brother, Chandler, who was only ten years old, was drowned while playing at the Yarmouth wharf. Word was immediately sent to Bartlett, who was already aboard his vessel at East Boston, to give up sailing, but there was some delay in delivering the message and the "Mimosa" had already put to sea. She made a fast trip to Smyrna and with a large cargo on board started as usual on her homeward voyage. This was her last trip, as neither the vessel nor any of the crew were ever heard of again. The two nephews, Thomas Chandler Thacher and Lewis Bartlett Thacher, who are living in Boston to-day, were named after their uncles, who died so tragically in their youth.

I saw some good Cape Cod names at this website posted on the GenMassachusetts list: MERCHANTS AND SEA CAPTAINS OF OLD BOSTON BEING A COLLECTION OF SKETCHES OF NOTABLE MEN AND MERCANTILE HOUSES PROMINENT DURING THE EARLY HALF OF THE NINETEENTH CENTURY IN THE COMMERCE AND SHIPPING OF BOSTON PRINTED FOR THE State Street Trust Company BOSTON, MASS. COPYRIGHT 1918 BY THE STATE STREET TRUST COMPANY http://www.kellscraft.com/captainsboston/captainsbostoncontent.html To the following persons who have rendered much valuable assist-ance in compiling this pamphlet the State Street Trust Company de-sires to extend its thanks: Captain Arthur H. Clark, Otto Fleischner and other officers of the Boston Public Library; Charles F. Read of the Bostonian Society; Robert B. Smith of the Marine Museum; Francis R. Allen, Edwin F. Atkins, Louis Bacon, W. P. Barker, Charles A. Barry, T. Dennie Boardman, Robert A. Boit, F. B. C. Bradlee, John IC. Burgess, George E. Cabot, Samuel Cabot, Samuel W. Comstock, Horace S. Crowell, Henry W. Cunningham, Frederic Cunningham, Mrs. E. A. Dolliver, Captain Oscar G. Eaton, William C. Endicott, Chester Guild, William F. Halsall, Alpheus H. Hardy, Arthur Sherburne Hardy, Charles A. Hardy, Miss Susan W. Hardy, Augustus Hemenway, Augustus Hemenway, Jr., Paul K. Hisada, Osborne Howes, Prof. T. Makino, Prof. Mizusaki, Lester H. Monks, H. S. O. Nichols, J. W. T. Nichols, Russell Sturgis Paine, Mrs. Charles E. Perkins, William P. Searle, J. H. Shapleigh, F. W. Sprague, Morgan H. Stafford, John H. Sturgis, C. H. Taylor, Jr., T. C. Thacher, Barclay Tilton, R. E. Townsend, Herman A. Train, Mrs. Franklin M. Train, Captain N. B. Washburn, Dr. F. S. Watson, Thomas Weston, William G. Wheildon, T. T. Whitney, T. T. Whitney, Jr.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/431 Message Board Post: Trying to find the orgin of the name "Rhobe". I have seen it used several times as a first name in families from the New England area such as Mass & Rhode Island. I was wondering where it came from. It seems to show up in Quaker families and appears to be mainly used as a females name. I have also seen it spelled, Robe, Roba, Rhobee. I know there is a surname spelled Roby, Robey, Robie, from England. The first Roby surname came over to America in 1638. I'm just not sure where this first name came from or is it a variation of the spelling of the surname Roby moved forward. If anyone has any ideas on this please email me at: roby@erols.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CHADWICK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0EB.2ACE/337.1 Message Board Post: I have a Samuel CHADWICK born about 1719 / 20. I believed he married Elizabeth Price about 1780. He died 1780 in Lee, Berkshire County, MA. He had several children born n Barstable, MA. Rose, Abiathar, Archelus and Samuel. I don't have much more than this. I do not know of any of them moving to NC

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Graham, Mitchell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0EB.2ACE/430 Message Board Post: A Christmas wish of a five year old, remains a wish 56 years later to a senior citizen. My father, William Graham disappeared July 1949. My mother, my sister, nor I know what happened to him. Every year as the joy of Christmas draws near there is this wish of a child thats been with me all my life. The wish that my father might return home would be the greatest gift that I could receive. 56 years have past, no father. The wish is alive and well. As a senior citizen, my wish is to hear from any family members that may be still living. I have left no stone unturned in my search, its as if he disappeared off the face of the earth. Please know that I expect no one to try and find him. Want to share with others, maybe this Christmas the right person will read this note. A little information about Mr. Graham: William Graham born April 5, 1906 died ?????. SS# 044-12-1321. I did send for SS-5 forum. This record states William Graham (No Middle Name listed) is the S/o William Graham and Ethel Mitchell, born in Philadelphia, Pa., Have not been able to locate a birth record or information concerning his parents. Met my mother in Newport News, Va. Married my mother, Anna Maschek in Camden, North Carolina Jan. 1940. Records say that Graham was born in Philadelphia County, Pa. No census record was ever found. Graham joined the Merchant Marines abt. 1926. Aborad ship he traveled all over the U S and other countries. I have a picture of Mr. Graham if anyone is interested. Thank you for reading about my wish, Dorothy Graham Meadows

Does anyone have access to the Baker Library at the Harvard Business School? It has the records from the Hamilton Mill in Lowell, MA.which has records on each employee. I would like the records or my wife's ancestor, Peter Bradley. Compensation acceptable. Thanks, Jerry